dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
First, to distinguish, there is a difference between Liberal and SJW . Allow me to share some insights I have learned: There are several distinct characteristics to a SJW, the first one is a propensity to call anyone that disagrees a racist/bigot/sexist/homophobe/xenophobe/islamaphobe. This is the most important defense mechanism of their echo-chamber, they use it to protect their safe space fantasy land... words don't have that much power. 7/20/2016 2:13:54 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Must... Spam.... To hide.... The fragility of my SJW opinions! 7/20/2016 2:23:46 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
There is a world of difference between actual activism from the 1960's, and this present day media-driven race-hoax outrage. I know SJW's like to pretend they are just as important and doing just as much good with their profile picture filters and hashtags, but comparing the 2 eras is a bad joke. Even when you are inventing things to be outraged by (MicroAggressions, pre-op Pangender bi-sexual transracial post-op people, "Hands Up Don't Shoot") you can't even fabricate enough actual "adversity" or "oppression" to justify your brave hashtags and outrage.
Let's look at the first 2 examples the article referenced: Freddie Gray: Unjustly killed in police custody... could have been a good case for unification in the protest of police brutality seeing as how half the cops were black... but "unity" isn't the goal, division is. So even though we have black cops lead by a black mayor and black police chief in a democratic Baltimore, let's go for the "race baiting" angle again and ignore these facts.
Mike Brown: Robbed a store, fought a cop for his gun, rushed the cop. Media went with the "hands up, don't shoot" narrative for a long time, eventually the facts came out and it was proven a justified killing, but that's after all the outrage and riots.
Gee, I wonder why people are skeptical of protests over these events? Let's try to link this skepticism to the KKK being skeptical of Dr. King in the 1960's. 7/20/2016 2:25:55 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
So is spamming the last line of defense from SJW bots? Or do we have to go deeper? 7/20/2016 2:34:55 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
What is the motivation of moron-type posters (SJWs)? Why do they feel the need to constantly bump threads with links essentially all suggesting 2016 America is racist?
Secondly, since 2016 America obviously isn't the racist hell hole they think it is, naturally many of their "sources" have flaws. Typically from biased far-left sources with pseudoscience studies omitting factors to dishonestly represent things as being racial when they aren't. So not only are they trashing American society, they are lying in doing so in most cases.
Finally, when these flaws are criticized, rather than discuss them as a mature adult should, they simply result to character attacks and call anyone disagreeing with them a racist/bigot/homophobe.
To top it all off, they have UNC-fan caliber smugness. I think they actually do believe they have morale and intellectual highground when they condescendingly discuss these topics with other people. It's an interesting thing, the psychology of a SJW.
But, I digress. To answer the question, what do I believe in? I strongly dislike SJWs... it's really that simple. 7/20/2016 2:38:55 PM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
An all white jury convicts a black man who is on video committing a crime.
A mixed jury does not convict a white man who is not on video committing a crime.
Obviously this is proof of racism. If you point out the quality of evidence factor, you must be a gay dumb neckbeard racist. 7/20/2016 3:23:15 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
I would pay to watch this with JCE next to me but can't arrange that so i'll settle for asking him for a comment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyIcXmXuakQ 7/20/2016 10:50:11 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ nice, didn't know she made an updated one since the blue/brown eye kids one. 7/20/2016 10:57:26 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
I'll indulge you. I watched about 10 minutes... it wasn't going anywhere.
Analysis:
Old lady tells people to be mean to white people (as if that is how white people act towards black people) then she says "see, that's how black people feel". Did I miss anything? Also "black people are perpetual victims?" 7/21/2016 2:24:24 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
It's mean to tell people to sit up straight and speak correctly now...? 7/21/2016 2:26:31 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
yes, don't invade his slouching safe space 7/21/2016 2:27:18 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
She should have just enslaved the white kids for their lifetimes, then had a cop come execute them. Then they would know the STRUGGLE black people face everyday in 2016. 7/21/2016 2:34:33 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
It's easy! 7/21/2016 6:36:05 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
It's easy! 7/21/2016 6:36:05 PM |
MrGreen All American 2281 Posts user info edit post |
cop shoots unarmed black person
"that's anecdotal"
white person has a hard life
"white privilege isn't real" 7/21/2016 8:46:59 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rnFlQAvk8U 7/22/2016 10:58:47 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
https://twitter.com/godlyvibe/status/747924848870105089
Cops follow black guys to the house they own. Lol 7/23/2016 12:53:58 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3071957/It-s-not-illegal-black-Cops-complain-online-white-people-getting-freaked-black-neighbors-wasting-police-time-911-calls.html
More of the above except cops rolling their eyes at idiots. 7/24/2016 2:55:09 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.rt.com/usa/353411-dr-dre-handcuffed-gun/
Quote : | "When Dre accessed his cellphone during the incident, the man reportedly said, "Here we go again, another black guy with a gun," TMZ reported.
Dre told deputies that the man had followed him home from the freeway, then parked his car directly in front of his residence, blocking his driveway. Dre said he then asked the man to leave; the man did, but then quickly returned and parked at approximately the same location in front of Dre's home. Dre then used a cellphone to record the man, who then responded by driving away." |
7/27/2016 1:38:22 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
If only he didn't break the law obeyed police commands this isn't the full story; there must be other information we're not being told weren't black. 7/27/2016 2:05:03 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think a white person has ever been questioned by police. Such OPPRESSION. 7/27/2016 2:13:04 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I wish liberals and the POTUS would defend police officers half as aggressively as they defend Muslims.
After an ISIS shooting, the response is “This doesn’t represent ISLAM, there are many more peaceful Muslims than terrorist”. After a police shooting, the response is “This IS representative of our RACIST society and police”. (Before due process even starts).
If an American shot up a Mosque, we all know the left would immediately attribute it to “Islamaphobia” and conservative rhetoric.
When anti-cop, anti-white crazies target cops, you can’t help but wonder if it may not have happened if the media/left didn’t create such a hostile atmosphere for cops so irresponsibly.
To act as if these headline cases are representative of the American justice system, to act as if race is the primary factor, is deliberate ignorance and it is absolutely irresponsible. That’s the divider in chief for you folks, can’t miss an opportunity to tell your voter base they are oppressed victims that need big government, or to mention that only big government needs the big guns.
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7/27/2016 2:28:34 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
White people gettin questioned by the POLEEEECEEE!!????
WHY I NEVAAAA
[Edited on July 28, 2016 at 12:02 AM. Reason : I swunneeeeee] 7/28/2016 12:02:09 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Dr. Dre got questioned about a road rage gun incident... oh my god if that isn't proof of racism then I don't know what is. 7/28/2016 11:11:03 PM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
so, what is proof, JCE? perhaps give an example? 7/29/2016 10:34:25 AM |
beatsunc All American 10748 Posts user info edit post |
since we posting anecdotes
cops walk up to black guy with a gun, not only do they not shoot him they shake his hand.
https://www.facebook.com/wakaflocka/videos/1230651870325360/ 7/29/2016 10:49:00 AM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
^white people need to stop robbing black people. #ALM 7/29/2016 10:52:44 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Ouch https://twitter.com/imani_shell/status/759616533945470976 7/31/2016 3:26:47 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
-Dreadlocks originated in India -The actual Google search results differ -"Cultural Appropriation" is a joke -If you describe yourself as a "humanitarian" and "intersectional feminist" on Twitter, you're an idiot. -If you follow said person on Twitter, or take them seriously, you're an idiot 7/31/2016 4:34:21 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
even i had problem with some of that stuff. i struggle with the concept of cultural appropriation because the opposite of it would be white power. shouldn't we want people embracing different styles regardless of their race? 7/31/2016 4:36:22 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ I agree that the term cultural appropriation has some problematic usages, but the exact meaning is a little in flux. Culitural evolution is a good thing, people should borrow liberally from other cultures.
But the point of the tweet was that whites are considered "good dreads" and blacks are considered "ugly dreads", which is not uncommon when whites assimilate black culture. 7/31/2016 4:55:27 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
You're giving too much credit to "cultural appropriation". Made up buzzwords by a leftist lesbian sociology professor don't deserve credence from sane people.
It isn't built on principals or logic, it's built on complaining about white people/the patriarchy and being victimized by everything. Naturally that's right up moron's alley.
Quote : | "but the exact meaning is a little in flux." |
Seems to be a common theme with things invented by SJWs... gotta stay flexible when you can't argue on facts.
[Edited on July 31, 2016 at 4:58 PM. Reason : .]7/31/2016 4:57:08 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
There is a world of difference between actual activism from the 1960's, and this present day media-driven race-hoax outrage. I know SJW's like to pretend they are just as important and doing just as much good with their profile picture filters and hashtags, but comparing the 2 eras is a bad joke. Even when you are inventing things to be outraged by (MicroAggressions, pre-op Pangender bi-sexual transracial post-op people, "Hands Up Don't Shoot") you can't even fabricate enough actual "adversity" or "oppression" to justify your brave hashtags and outrage.
Let's look at the first 2 examples the article referenced: Freddie Gray: Unjustly killed in police custody... could have been a good case for unification in the protest of police brutality seeing as how half the cops were black... but "unity" isn't the goal, division is. So even though we have black cops lead by a black mayor and black police chief in a democratic Baltimore, let's go for the "race baiting" angle again and ignore these facts.
Mike Brown: Robbed a store, fought a cop for his gun, rushed the cop. Media went with the "hands up, don't shoot" narrative for a long time, eventually the facts came out and it was proven a justified killing, but that's after all the outrage and riots.
Gee, I wonder why people are skeptical of protests over these events? Let's try to link this skepticism to the KKK being skeptical of Dr. King in the 1960's. 7/31/2016 5:42:33 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
https://m.mic.com/articles/148628/black-family-in-san-antonio-stands-up-to-racist-white-couple-at-chester-s-restaurant?utm_source=policymicFB&utm_medium=identities&utm_campaign=social#.lR3jsIejz 7/31/2016 11:54:10 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/08/01/sometimes-it-takes-an-outsider-to-crystallize-americas-enduring-racism/?tid=sm_fb 8/1/2016 9:34:20 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Freddie Gray: Unjustly killed in police custody... could have been a good case for unification in the protest of police brutality seeing as how half the cops were black... but "unity" isn't the goal, division is. So even though we have black cops lead by a black mayor and black police chief in a democratic Baltimore, let's go for the "race baiting" angle again and ignore these facts." |
That has nothing to do with the victim being black. You fail to understand the systemic racism is not carried out by racist individuals. It is often carried out by everyday people doing their jobs.8/1/2016 10:58:16 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/north-carolina-voting-rights-law/493649/
Can't remember if this has been posted yet. So the NC legislature looked up black voting patterns and wrote a law to target blacks for disenfranchisement. 8/1/2016 12:41:16 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ Anecdote is not representative, despite that "journalists" best attempts.
^^^"From the grief-stricken cities of Baton Rouge and Ferguson, Mo., roiled by the killings of unarmed black men by police officers..." Alton Sterling was an armed felon resisting arrest, and Mike Brown assaulted a cop. To describe them as "unarmed black men" is blatant race-baiting garbage. Though the SJWs have made it clear they either can't differentiate between news and propaganda, or simply have no interest in differentiating between the two.
^ Quote : | "Both sides effectively agreed that these changes disproportionately affected poor, elderly, and African American voters, who were less likely to hold the required forms of photo ID, more likely to move frequently, and more likely to take advantage of early voting. These voters also vote overwhelmingly Democratic." |
Oh no! Poor people, that generally make poor decisions, are too lazy to get an ID and contribute their poor decisions in a voting booth! And some of them are black so it's racist! Also lets get all these Syrian and Mexican peasant-class immigrants in to vote democrat, big government, higher taxes, and free handouts. If you disagree you're a bigot!
Equality of opportunity > equality of outcome
[Edited on August 1, 2016 at 2:47 PM. Reason : .]8/1/2016 2:37:52 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you don't believe that some cops see "beling black" as probably cause," |
Probable cause is defined by law, not by racism of the >1%. The 4th amendment exists.
Even if every cop is a grand wizard in the KKK they have to have a reason why they searched you. Even if the cop "decides" it smells like weed because he hates your black guts, he has to find weed to give you a citation.
Quote : | "and just use some piddly reason to justify it?" |
You mean the law? Do you see how stupid this mindset is? Implying there is racial intent behind a cop doing their job enforcing the "piddly law" is weak. Shitty buzzfeed articles that say "OMG racist Cops arrest more black people" without evidence of racism are weak.
Quote : | "he literally used a source that discusses how "driving while black" is a real thing, but thinks it proves that it's not a real thing" | Are you still not over this? If I was arguing for atheism, I would quote the bible.
If you are arguing "being pulled over for being black" is a problem, I will google it and use that side's own statistics against it. The benefit of arguing for common-sense concepts is that statistics, regardless of source, will support my side... which I would summarize as:
"The overwhelmingly vast majority of cops aren't racist, and wealth accounts for those disparities more so than skin color"
but as usual, the bleeding-heart white-guilt liberals of TWW view that as "you disagree with my Buzzfeed article, you are such an ignorant racist".8/1/2016 2:53:09 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
NC systematically identified and targeted tools used by predominantly African American communities when voting. This happened immediately after the repeal of a requirement subjecting new voting rules to federal approval. 8/1/2016 2:55:52 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Predominantly African Americans? You mean predominantly democrats. This is politics, the only colors the people making these decisions care about are red and blue. Screaming "racism" at an equal opportunity policy is exactly what the liberal media wants you to do though.
The way you SJW types selectively apply the race filter... as if those evil racist republicans wouldn't take a vote cast by a black hand. Nobody cares what the color of the voters skin is.
Edit: If anything it should be harder to vote. Given our current 2 nominees, why do we want to encourage voting from idiots? It's the same reason democrats want illegal immigrants and Syrian migrants in our country. Votes. If republicans were all old and fat and a democratic governor saw he could move a voting booth to the top floor of a building with no elevator to weed them out I'm sure it wouldn't be off the table for a politician trying to get or keep power. That doesn't mean that the governor in this example hates white people and is racist, it's politics.
[Edited on August 1, 2016 at 3:36 PM. Reason : .] 8/1/2016 3:29:47 PM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
JCE....what exactly do you consider to be racism today? 8/1/2016 4:34:58 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
I answered you in the other thread 8/1/2016 4:55:53 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but as usual, the bleeding-heart white-guilt liberals of TWW view that as "you disagree with my Buzzfeed article, you are such an ignorant racist"." |
The really fun part is that it doesn't even come from a genuinely good place, it comes from a place of wanting to prove to the greater social group that you're a good person, i.e. 'virtue signaling'. When someone posts an impassioned wall of text on Facebook about the terrible problem of white police officers killing black men, it's not because they actually care about the black men that were killed. If they cared about black men being killed, then they'd be outraged about all kinds of other shit too - gang violence, black officers killing black men, and the myriad of other ways that black men are murdered at higher rates than other groups.
Now, I'm not arguing that you have to be equally outraged about every single source of tragedy, but the fact that only certain types of events make their way onto the national news, and subsequently get picked up by affluent white liberals in the social media circuit, should strike you as a little bit telling.
In summary: - Black officer kills black man - not a story - Black man kills anyone - not a story - White officer kills white man - not a story - White officer kills black man - non-stop coverage for two weeks straight
The overarching narrative is that there's a systemic problem where black men are hunted down and executed by racist white officers, and if all you did was watch TV news and read TWW/Reddit/Salon/HuffingtonPost, you'd have every reason to believe that was true. Statistically, though, these stories are over reported, and the extent to which black men are killed at higher rates by officers (white or non-white) is matched by higher aggregate criminality among the black male population.
Now, are there worthwhile and interesting discussions to be had about rates of criminality, the cycle of poverty, the drug war, etc? Sure. That kind of nuanced, informed discussion doesn't sell any papers, and it certainly doesn't give white people a way to show their friends how progressive and compassionate they are.
[Edited on August 1, 2016 at 5:12 PM. Reason : ]8/1/2016 5:11:37 PM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
^^sorry, didn't see that. Thanks for answering. Why do you think those emails were racist? 8/1/2016 5:25:42 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Because the emails insulted people due to their race. 8/1/2016 6:06:11 PM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
So do you think the emails were racist or the people sending them? 8/1/2016 6:39:28 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Both 8/1/2016 6:56:53 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
8/3/2016 5:20:04 PM |
jtdenny All American 10904 Posts user info edit post |
this is still going??? 8/3/2016 7:10:15 PM |