Quote :

"Because the intelligence agencies have been politicized, just like about every government entity under Obama, they are putting partisan politics above their duty."

Actually, if you want to talk about them being politicized, that actually happened under Bush (W). That was when pretty much every single analyst at the CIA was saying there were absolutely no indications Iraq had anything to do with 9/11 or had any WMD. Cheney kept going to the CIA HQ and basically demanding they come up with something. Finally they produce a lie from a known, unreliable source, which Cheney then forced into Powell's hand to use at the UN.

To my knowledge, Obama hasn't done a single thing there (unless what you're actually talking about is not politicizing but making politically correct). My guess is people say the CIA got politicized because they stopped torturing people and don't call terrorists "radical islamists." So really, people mean politically correct.

If Obama has done anything like what Cheney did, probably will be a few years before we know about it. We didn't really get good info on Cheney's BS until the books started coming out by Bob Woodward, Jeremy Scahill, etc.

[Edited on February 16, 2017 at 11:26 AM. Reason : a]

2/16/2017 11:25:20 AM

Quote :

"Because the intelligence agencies have been politicized, just like about every government entity under Obama, they are putting partisan politics above their duty."

Oh look, another JCEbot deflection and false equivalency. I was hoping for another one.



[Edited on February 16, 2017 at 11:41 AM. Reason : .]

2/16/2017 11:26:56 AM

He right though. Right of center Obama appointed Republican James Comey to head the FBI.

2/16/2017 11:53:06 AM

Another questionable Emoluments Clause situation:

https://www.apnews.com/5870a27432b54e92b9a8cb7734eb57d5

After a decade of trying to recover the TRUMP trademark from some rando Chinese guy, China grants Trump the trademark shortly after his election and then gives final approval for it just days after Trump backs down on the "One China" fiasco.

2/16/2017 11:56:01 AM

Quote :

"President Trump to reporters on leakers: "We'll find the leakers. We're gonna find the leakers. They're gonna pay a big price for leaking.""

This is gonna get ugly quick.

2/16/2017 11:58:25 AM

Clearly, the Intel Community should just get out in front of all this and spill da beans.

2/16/2017 12:00:38 PM

congress will investigate the leaks before they investigate the contents of the leaks

2/16/2017 12:02:11 PM

I'm sure previous presidents have done it before Obama and Bush, seems to be a gradual trend.

Off the top of my head, for "politicized" under Obama:

-IRS targeting conservative groups
-DOJ, operation choke point, lynch meeting Clinton on Tarmac to make deal
-FBI giving immunity to EVERYONE involved in Clinton's email investigation with zero prosecutions

2/16/2017 12:02:18 PM

pivot

2/16/2017 12:16:07 PM

Reverting back to "everything sucks and only I can fix it" apparently.

Does he think he is still campaigning?

2/16/2017 1:07:57 PM

Quote :

"Off the top of my head, for "politicized" under Obama: -IRS targeting conservative groups -DOJ, operation choke point, lynch meeting Clinton on Tarmac to make deal -FBI giving immunity to EVERYONE involved in Clinton's email investigation with zero prosecutions"

I'll have to take a look at that stuff today/tomorrow. I didn't know that. Will get back to you.

2/16/2017 1:13:14 PM

hell of a damn press conference

2/16/2017 1:40:07 PM

This is literally amazing to watch. He is throwing himself under the bus without realizing it.

2/16/2017 1:42:35 PM

Acosta got him shook.

2/16/2017 1:44:58 PM

This is absolutely incredible

Doctor Charles Krauthammer said it so it must be true

[Edited on February 16, 2017 at 1:47 PM. Reason : .]

2/16/2017 1:45:24 PM

"Putin doesn't want to make a deal with me because the media are meanies"

What a god damn idiot.

2/16/2017 1:53:35 PM

This guy sounds absolutely insane. Insane

2/16/2017 1:56:20 PM

These reporters are asking shitty questions. They need to ask simple questions so it's more obvious when he starts incoherently rambling.

2/16/2017 2:10:48 PM

the man is an expert on what Hillary would have done

^agreed

[Edited on February 16, 2017 at 2:11 PM. Reason : Z]

2/16/2017 2:11:21 PM

You know, uranium. You know what they do with that stuff? Nuclear. And other stuff. Bad stuff.

2/16/2017 2:19:11 PM

^ the real quote is even stupider:

Quote :

"You know what uranium is, right? It's this thing called nuclear weapons, and other things, like lots of things are done with uranium, including some bad things."

2/16/2017 2:33:44 PM

Trump is completely unhinged.

2/16/2017 3:06:14 PM

To us. But to Real America this is all fine.

2/16/2017 3:07:21 PM

^^ he has been since day 1, and well before he became POTUS.

I don't get why people are suddenly shocked how incompetent and incoherent he is. We all saw the same presidential debates. None of this is anything new.

2/16/2017 3:10:48 PM

Reporter: "Blah blah blah, anything that has nothing to do with the campaign and the election, blah blah blah."

Trump: "Blah blah blah, I'm going to remind you all how well I did with my campaign and the election, blah blah blah."

2/16/2017 3:41:14 PM

So is it worth going back and watching the press conference tonight? Will I be amazed?

2/16/2017 4:12:04 PM

Reading it is worse...good lord, last time I read the annotated transcripts on NPR...I feel dumber for having tried to decipher that.

2/16/2017 4:13:44 PM

So I just saw these snippets:

http://time.com/4673624/donald-trump-press-conference-combative/

Quote :

"On the state of the country: "As you know, our Administration inherited many problems across government and across the economy. To be honest, I inherited a mess. It's a mess. At home and abroad, a mess." On the beginning of his Administration: "I turn on the T.V., open the newspapers and I see stories of chaos. Chaos. Yet it is the exact opposite. This administration is running like a fine-tuned machine." On drug abuse: "We're becoming a drug infested nation. Drugs are becoming cheaper than candy bars. We are not going to let it happen any longer." On whether he would meet with the Congressional Black Caucus: "I would. You want to set up the meeting? Are they friends of yours?" On anti-Semitism in the United States: "Number one, I am the least anti-Semitic person you've ever seen in your entire life. Number two, racism, the least racist person." [This one really cracks me up. Really? The least of every other person I've ever seen in my entire life? Literally?] On a Russian spy vessel that is off the U.S. coastline: "Not good." On misstating his Electoral College win at the press conference: "Well, I don't know, I was given that information. I was given." On his connections with Russia: "I own nothing in Russia. I have no loans in Russia. I don't have any deals in Russia." Again, on Russia: "Russia is a ruse." On Hillary Clinton's "reset" with Russia as Secretary of State: "Hillary Clinton did a reset, remember? With the stupid plastic button that made us all look like a bunch of jerks." On CNN's coverage of him: "I watch CNN, it's so much anger and hatred and just the hatred." On whether stories about Mike Flynn's resignation are "fake news": "The leaks are absolutely real. The news is fake because so much of the news is fake.""

[Edited on February 16, 2017 at 4:44 PM. Reason : ]

2/16/2017 4:44:11 PM

Quote :

"We all saw the same presidential debates. None of this is anything new."

THAT is the scary part.

2/16/2017 4:48:53 PM

Quote :

"so this next 4 years is just going to kinda be a reality TV show I guess"

The next 4 years is basically his election campaign.

**********************************************************
Reporter: What are you going to do the next 4 years?

Trump: Campaign for reelection to #MAGAandA.

Reporter: But how will you MAGA these 4 years?

Trump: It is already GA because I won... can't you see, everybody is so happy and the country is doing so well???

Reporter: But if you are not going to do anything next 4 years, why did you run?

Trump: To win so I can campaign to win again.

Reporter: But Mr. President that...

Trump: You will see on Feb. 16, 2021... it will be so great, people will be literally begging us to stop... there is going to be so much love, so much love...

Reporter:

2/16/2017 4:55:05 PM

House has been busy passing laws this whole time, while trump is spewing nonsense on TV grabbing media cycles.

So far, making pollution easier, rolling back transparency for energy company dealings with foreign govs., rolling back transparency requirements for banks and financial advisors, rescinding background checks for people who may not have full selfcognizance, rolling back hunting and poaching regulations.

Kinda interesting none of these are beneficial to the poor or middle class.

2/16/2017 5:39:03 PM

My favorite part of all this is watching Paul Ryan's soul slowly leave his body as he realizes none of his dream legislation will ever pass.

[Edited on February 16, 2017 at 5:43 PM. Reason : .]

2/16/2017 5:43:26 PM

This press conference is GOLD.

CNN is no longer "Fake News" it is "Very Fake News". Thank you POTUS.

+10000 Credibility

2/16/2017 6:26:47 PM

^damn you're good

2/16/2017 7:00:44 PM

^^

2/16/2017 7:30:28 PM

^^^^Let's not forget that they're removing legislation that keeps guns out of the hands of mentally ill people.

2/16/2017 8:12:29 PM

This is surreal

He is already tattered at the edges and falling apart... no way he will last a whole year, let alone 4 years

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-16/candidate-trump-tries-to-salvage-an-embattled-president-trump

2/17/2017 12:34:48 AM

I don't see what was so ridiculous about Trump asking a black reporter to set up the CBC meeting. They all must know each other.

[Edited on February 17, 2017 at 12:41 AM. Reason : -]

2/17/2017 12:41:00 AM

It is on baby

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-behaviour-impeachment-us-politicians-remove-us-president-review-removal-procedures-25-a7583081.html

2/17/2017 1:38:37 AM

LOL LOL LOL! That is pure entertainment right there!

Trump: Ohh yeah, this is gonna be a fair question.

Reporter (who is black): It will be

Trump: I am a big fan of yours, are you gonna talk to the black caucus? Are they friends of yours? How about you arrange the meeting?

Reporter: I mean, I know who they are, but they aren't friends, are you gonna meet with them?

Trump: Yes, they are very important, why don't you set that up, please, go make it happen!

Could he be any more belittling?

2/17/2017 5:17:17 AM

It's a pipe dream until 2018^^ And even then voters have to vote in a Democratic majority, right? I don't know the specific rules regarding impeachment.

2/17/2017 8:05:48 AM

Not going to happen. FFS, Trump has a higher favorability rating among Republicans at this point in his tenure (84 per Pew) than any Republican the last four decades. That's why the only ones challenging him from the right or those who can play the long game (senators up for re-election in 2022).

2/17/2017 9:25:20 AM

My four year old could hurl better insults at the media than what we saw yesterday.

2/17/2017 9:49:44 AM

i thought the thing about the black journalist was just a joke when i read it yesterday

holy shit

2/17/2017 9:54:26 AM

Didn't the leftists start the "Fake News" narrative to explain Clinton's loss?

Then the Orange man just hijacked it and they gave up.

2/17/2017 9:55:03 AM

The leftists started the fake news narrative to describe...fake news

2/17/2017 9:58:54 AM

^^^ she handled it amazingly. Saw a bit last night with Erin Burnett (I think) trying to lead her down a path and she was having none of it. Basically was like "that idiot can do what he wants and it's not going to stop me from doing my job." She was so class.

^ ignore him. Anyone who can't understand a difference between "Clinton runs a sex trade out of a pizza shop" and "the polls show Trump behind" is either an idiot or trolling or both.

[Edited on February 17, 2017 at 10:01 AM. Reason : Erin wanted her to say it was because of her race obviously and she wouldnt]

2/17/2017 9:59:29 AM

The difference is, only a few rednecks in bunkers with tin foil hats are taking that shit seriously.

Whereas the constant dishonesty from the MSM has a yuuuuuge effect on the public's perception.

2/17/2017 10:03:23 AM

CNN, with its pages full of anti Trump articles is most certainly biased against him. But that shit isn't fake. Call it biased all day long, I sure do. And it is. But fake? Fake it certainly isn't. It's not even very very fake.

What's next? Very very very fake?

2/17/2017 10:15:37 AM

^That ultimately is a very good point. I can agree that CNN posts more "negative" articles about Trump than "positive."

But that doesn't mean a single negative article is fake.

But to add a clarification - are there really that many positive things you can say about Trump? I think there's just a shortage of good things to publish about him. Even Fox News is having trouble flooding the page with Pro Trump stuff. They're basically reporting the same stuff as CNN with slightly different headline arrangement.

2/17/2017 10:22:13 AM