Nope, I didn't.

But nice try.

4/8/2012 10:36:21 PM

My bad, it was in your other "I'm going to complain about those nasty negroes" thread, where you wrote this gem:

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"Some races are better at certain things than others. Some races are more prone to commit crimes than others. Some races are better at certain sports than others. There is statistical evidence to back this up too."

4/8/2012 10:40:26 PM

And where in that do I say that black people are genetically inferior?

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"Most serial killers are white. Any black person who says this is racist!!!! But there's statistics to back this up. I don't care it's still racist, you can't say that!!!"

[Edited on April 8, 2012 at 10:46 PM. Reason : ,]

4/8/2012 10:44:34 PM

ahahahhaha

4/8/2012 10:45:17 PM

At least you can laugh at yourself.

You got that at least.

4/8/2012 10:46:55 PM

Serial killers make up less than one percent of all crimes committed, and so that's not a statistically relevant topic.

Criminologists don't pay attention to serial killers at all when studying crimes and how they're related to demographics.

So, your attempt to come up with an analogy to justify your racism is flawed.

Get out, or just admit you're a racist so we can continue with the discussion.

I know it feels really bad to admit it to yourself, but you should.

4/8/2012 10:49:53 PM

I don't think that black people commit more crimes because they are black.

I think it has more to do with their environment.

There is nothing racist about the fact that this happens.

So instead of black people thinking its some big racist conspiracy that black people make up a higher % of the prison population than they do the actual population, and that thats out of whack and there must be something going on, how about they try and find out why black people are committing more crimes and go from there and try and solve the problem instead of blaming other people.

There is statistical evidence to show more black people get arrested for crimes. Sure, some of it has to do with race, just as I'm sure some whites getting arrested have to do with race.

You can't call someone a racist for pointing out god damn statistical evidence about a certain part of the population.

Like I said, most illegal immigrants are hispanic.

There is nothing racist about saying or claiming that, its just a statistical fact.

4/8/2012 11:00:00 PM

^

4/8/2012 11:37:08 PM

tacolu, I generally agree with 95% the things you've been saying throughout this thread.

Saying that, holy shit I'm tired of listening every racist,bigot and/or redneck give the redundant, inaccurate and fucking annoying rant about how there is a difference between niggers and black people. The worst part is, these racist pricks say it as if it's some enlightening shit.

Thank you Chris Rock, you've given every racist a damn excuse to spit some bullshit.

4/8/2012 11:44:32 PM

apparently this sanford police force has botched many cases in the past though not all of them race related

4/9/2012 9:53:29 AM

http://www.wral.com/news/national_world/national/story/10958776/

4/9/2012 11:55:01 AM

SPECIAL PROSECUTOR DECIDES AGAINST USING GRAND JURY!!ONE1

4/9/2012 12:06:57 PM

maybe kids will learn from all of this that starting a fight with someone 100 pounds bigger than you is not going to end pretty.

4/9/2012 12:12:08 PM

^^^great, go ahead a screw everyone else in the neighborhood, that'll make it right!

[Edited on April 9, 2012 at 12:13 PM. Reason : ^^^]

4/9/2012 12:13:15 PM

Don't be a simpleton, wdprice

That's how HOA's operate.

4/9/2012 12:15:51 PM

I know how HOAs work. However, suing the HOA doesn't make things right, especially when that means you're holding every homeowner responsible for one person's action.

4/9/2012 12:18:17 PM

You are a simpleton if you think the motivation for suing the HOA is to "make things right".
I'm pretty sure they aren't trying to punish the residents either. that's just how HOA's work.


How about putting the blame where it's due? The HOA introduced a liability telling residents to contact Zimmerman if they had problems. You contact the police if you have problems.

4/9/2012 12:25:00 PM

Why sue the HOA? Cause you want money or for some reason you think it will make things right.

The HOA said to contact the police first; Zimmerman second and told him to work with the police, not be the police. They never said Zimmerman was a cop or the only go-to. Zimmerman was willing to aid the entire neighborhood by being proactive about security. Unfortunately, he made a huge mistake. He made the mistake. legally, yes, the HOA can be held liable; but that doesn't make it right or sensible.

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"I'm pretty sure they aren't trying to punish the residents either. that's just how HOA's work."

Doesn't matter. Not wanting to, but still doing so, is punishing the residents, many of whom likely side with the victim's family. Now suing the HOA makes them victims too.

[Edited on April 9, 2012 at 12:33 PM. Reason : .]

4/9/2012 12:30:18 PM

More "slick talking lawyers", amirite?

Until you understand this concept of liability, I don't think you really have ground to stand on.


You do understand who gives the HOA power, right?

[Edited on April 9, 2012 at 12:38 PM. Reason : Kkthx]

4/9/2012 12:36:39 PM

Haha, the last 5-6 posts has me cracking up.

April 10th is tomorrow!!

4/9/2012 12:37:40 PM

Uh, I already know and posted that the HOA can be held liable. I understand that; obviously you didn't read my post. In general, as obvious from my posts, I have a huge problem with how this country deals with liability.

4/9/2012 12:38:05 PM

Who gives the HOA power? Who sits on the board for the HOA? Who funds the HOA?

4/9/2012 12:41:11 PM

The government gives the HOA power. The homeowner's are typically forced to join and pay the HOA. Every homeowner doesn't vote or approve of the HOA board's actions. They are at the board's will

[Edited on April 9, 2012 at 12:44 PM. Reason : .]

4/9/2012 12:42:40 PM

It's a shame this happened in a Comparative Neglicence state, because this is going to end badly for the HOA.

4/9/2012 12:47:36 PM

Yeah i can honestly say that this has gone on too long

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

4/9/2012 12:49:22 PM

IM CLICKING BUT ITS NOT WORKING

4/9/2012 12:49:40 PM

Sound a lot like the HOA shouldn't have named Zimmerman as their unofficial "cop", and opened themselves up to that liability. I don't really see a way out of this one.

4/9/2012 1:16:33 PM

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"It's a shame this happened in a Comparative Neglicence state, because this is going to end badly for the HOA."

You say that like comparative negligence isn't the norm for the rest of the country.

4/9/2012 1:39:23 PM

it may be the norm for the rest of the country, but luckily for those of us in NC we have contributory negligence to help protect us from these kinds of shenanigans.

4/9/2012 2:04:25 PM

I guess "luckily" is all in perspective.

4/9/2012 2:10:26 PM

The United Nations human right commissioner has called for an investigation in the shooting of Trayvon Martin. He also called wdprice3 "Thunder Chunky".

4/9/2012 4:19:43 PM

The UN can kiss my dick.

4/9/2012 5:01:31 PM

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"The UN can kiss my dick."

4/9/2012 5:54:19 PM

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"The government gives the HOA power. The homeowner's are typically forced to join and pay the HOA. Every homeowner doesn't vote or approve of the HOA board's actions. They are at the board's will"

Not voting doesn't mean that they aren't liable.

And the HOA likely has insurance to cover damages.

Martins parents are fully right in suing the HOA I think. Their son is dead and the how recommended an idiot to be called about problems.

This isn't Mayberry where we let stupid people get away with things because aw, shucks.

You're the last person I'd expect to see defending a dumb person making dumb person mistakes, wdpice3. What happened to taking responsibility for your own actions and all that? HOA screwed up, Zimmerman screwed up, time to pay the piper. They dug their own graves. They made their own beds.

4/9/2012 6:02:34 PM

oh wait... someone called zimmerman to let him know about trayvon in the neighborhood. he said ill take care of it and then went and shot him?

sue the hoa.

4/9/2012 6:07:33 PM

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"HOA screwed up, Zimmerman screwed up, time to pay the piper. They dug their own graves. They made their own beds. "

more like Trayvon fucked up, came across somebody he shouldn't have fucked with, dug his own grave, and now people are crying out for financial compensation to reimburse bad parenting.

4/9/2012 6:33:01 PM

lol at passing this shit off on the HOA

BLAME BLAME BLAME

4/9/2012 6:35:17 PM

Guns don't kill people, HOAs kill people!

4/9/2012 6:42:29 PM

So if the HOA is partially liable, why the fuck wouldn't the parents sue the HOA? I don't understand the argument here...

4/9/2012 6:55:28 PM

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"So if the HOA is partially liable, why the fuck wouldn't the parents sue the HOA? I don't understand the argument here... "

It's more about it being a shameless money grab and less about whether or not the HOA is liable (since it is according to the documentation).

edit: if they need the money for funeral expenses and what not then I'm not really opposed to the notion for the record. However, I do not, and never have supported the abuse of such systems to make a quick buck.

[Edited on April 9, 2012 at 6:59 PM. Reason : ]

4/9/2012 6:58:10 PM

How is it a shameless money grab if they are liable?

4/9/2012 6:58:33 PM

Until it's legal to throw bricks through windows, egg peoples' houses, and smash their windows, we'll have to settle for suing people for monetary damages.

Was the civil case against OJ a shameless money grab...?

[Edited on April 9, 2012 at 7:03 PM. Reason : ]

4/9/2012 7:02:44 PM

^Seriously, you hold people accountable in a civil court by suing for damages. It doesn't make you a money grabbing whore.

4/9/2012 7:04:19 PM

just because the HOA nominated a guy to keep track of all the crime and that particular guy is now in a situation they need to be sued.

i built a house in downtown raleigh. all my neighbors let me know of crimes they encountered and we kept a running list of things that happened so we could keep up with it and discuss with police during neighborhood meetings.

i bet boylan heights has a person that keeps up with their crimes. the crime rate is high there because everyone knows they hate guns.

4/9/2012 7:39:39 PM

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"You don't think he had an honest and reasonable belief that the guy was defending himself when all of the facts between the confrontation between he and the kid aren't present, and when there is a lot of doubt as to how the confrontation went down? "

Maybe he did. That's why he should go in front of a court and plead his case. There is zero reasonable doubt that he shot Trayvon. Thus, there is plenty of evidence to charge him with manslaughter.

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"He has more than enough circumstantial evidence to introduce reasonable doubt."

Reasonable doubt only applies to showing that the defendant actually killed the victim. It does NOT apply to the affirmative defense. Clearly you haven't googled that term yet.

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"Not to mention an affirmative defense only applies to a court trial and not for an arrest. That's why many people who claim self-defense aren't arrested."

Then all anyone ever needs to do is claim self-defense, because, in your fucked up world, that means they can't be charged. Google. Affirmative. Defense.

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"Keep in mind that the investigators need something to solidify their belief to the jury that Zimmerman was acting more as a vigilante and not as a concerned neighbor."

No. All they need is evidence that he killed Trayvon in order to bring him up on charges for killing Trayvon.

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"Otherwise you're really requiring every case of self-defense to require a trial."

Because that's kind of how it is. Only in obvious cases do they not bring charges. This is anything but an obvious case.

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"The prosecution has to show that Zimmerman acted with that of a guilty mind (Mens rea), otherwise the most they could try him for is manslaughter."

Right. ANd they fucking SHOULD try him for manslaughter, because that's what this case boils down to. Only idiots like God and McDouche think Zimmerman should be charged with murder.

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"You're making a lot of assumptions with that claim."

No, I'm really not. If you don't think Zimmerman was racially profiling in his neighborhood, then you are truly dumber than I thought.

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"Do you know what Zimmerman did when he approached Trayvon? Who was on top of who? Who threw the first punch? Who was screaming for help?"

What the fuck does this have to do with what you quoted? Exactly, nothing.

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"When there is enough evidence to do so."

There's plenty of evidence. The dude admitted to killing Trayvon. That's enough for manslaughter at a bare minimum.

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"There is statistical evidence to show more black people get arrested for crimes."

Yes. it's called racial profiling and socioeconomic class. Not race.

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"maybe kids will learn from all of this that starting a fight with someone 100 pounds bigger than you is not going to end pretty."

If by "starting a fight," you mean "getting stalked by a wanna be superhero," then sure.

4/9/2012 7:56:36 PM

Ok, which one of you made this website for zimmerboy: http://therealgeorgezimmerman.com/

4/9/2012 8:02:57 PM

I hope Trayvon's family gets major money out of the HOA....they sure wont get it out of George Zimmerman.

The HOA probably has insurance, but who knows if it covers an armed self appointed community watch captain.....that part of it will be interesting to see.

4/9/2012 9:35:24 PM

^^ The Martin camp says it's unfair that Zimmerman is free, able to express his views like that, and solicit money.... were the situation reversed, Trayvon would have been locked up from day 1, unable to make a website like the one Zimmerman made.


sidenote: On that website, under albums, there is the "Long Live Zimmerman" picture. That graffiti was spraypainted on Ohio State's Black Cultural Center building. Poor taste, in my opinion.

[Edited on April 9, 2012 at 10:22 PM. Reason : d]

4/9/2012 10:20:30 PM

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" more like Trayvon fucked up, came across somebody he shouldn't have fucked with, dug his own grave, and now people are crying out for financial compensation to reimburse bad parenting."

4/9/2012 10:21:53 PM

this is getting out of hand. lots of racists in the midwest:



http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57411540-504083/mich-highway-sign-displays-racial-slur-directed-at-trayvon-martin/

[Edited on April 9, 2012 at 10:27 PM. Reason : .]

4/9/2012 10:26:30 PM