shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
LBJ's wife is way less beautiful than KB's. 6/22/2012 11:38:39 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
highlight of the game for me:
6/22/2012 11:42:51 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
It shows how hungry he is for the ring. 6/22/2012 11:53:06 AM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "His 26 points, 11 rebounds and 13 assists in the closeout game represented, by any measure, the cherry on one of the greatest individual playoff runs in history. He averaged 30 points and 10 rebounds during the playoffs; moved to power forward when Chris Bosh missed nine playoff games with an injury; led rallies from deficits in three consecutive series; delivered one of the most dominating games of this generation with 45 points in a road elimination game in Boston; got his first Game 7 victory; set a record for number of playoff games with at least 25 points, five rebounds and five assists; and became the fifth player ever to have multiple Finals triple-doubles. You could go on and on. The summation is that James is a worthy champion. " |
6/22/2012 12:09:42 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Didin't i hear before the game that he had to score 29 to reach 700 points during the playoffs, a feat only about 6 other guys have done in nba history? 6/22/2012 12:25:59 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
6/22/2012 12:39:28 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
1 down, 7 to go. Man, that would be a nightmare for NBA. 6/22/2012 12:54:38 PM |
joey53087 All American 732 Posts user info edit post |
6/22/2012 1:38:23 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
LBJ's looking is too far away from MJ, even KB. 6/22/2012 1:40:50 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
that last gif reminds me of Ernie's favorite Maryland fan gif 6/22/2012 1:42:23 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
when that second gif happened last night, i couldn't figure out what was going on, other than invisible indian rope burn 6/22/2012 1:46:25 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i was pretty sure i knew what it meant, and was totally right. how impressive is that? 6/22/2012 1:47:21 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
http://youtu.be/hv2jqFd2-qI?hd=1
LeBron may have his ring, but Mark Cuban is still a champion. 6/22/2012 1:50:00 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
is there a single person in the country that enjoys skip bayless? or that even watches him? i don't understand how he's on tv. 6/22/2012 1:57:39 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
he's a professional troll. really looking forward to his Mariotti-esque breakdown 6/22/2012 2:00:11 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Cuban is my role model. He started from a electrical engineer. 6/22/2012 2:02:34 PM |
joey53087 All American 732 Posts user info edit post |
no i hate him and his dumb shock value remarks. the worst is when he just gets into yelling matches with stephen a smith.
i do, however, very much enjoy watching his brother Rick Bayless' show Mexico - one plate at a time. hard to believe they are related.
[Edited on June 22, 2012 at 2:03 PM. Reason : doh] 6/22/2012 2:03:04 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
Cuban killed him, that was great 6/22/2012 2:04:13 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the worst is when he just gets into yelling matches with stephen a smith." |
there we go.6/22/2012 2:08:43 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
I know Cuban because Dallas is the team who hired Wang zhizhi, the first asian player. He's dumbass smart because he knew how big Chinese market was. 6/22/2012 2:09:27 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
That Cuban video is amazing 6/22/2012 2:12:09 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
If I said anything bad about miller I'd be very surprised. He's been one of the most Underrated players in the league his entire career. His injuries last year were the main reason Miami didn't win the title (along with haslem s injury). So I'd need to see the quote where I said spoelstra shouldn't be playing miller.
Also, miller didn't play at all in this series until last night, so I really doubt I said that.
On top of that , I argued in each of the last two series that your best chance against Miami is to go big and force them to play two big men instead of going small with battier/miller at the 3 and Lebron at the 4.
The annoying thing about the board is that no matter how consistent you are in an argument someone always tries to make things up after the fact 6/22/2012 3:45:29 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I argued in each of the last two series that your best chance against Miami is to go big" |
sounds like a good plan...if Bosh is out, which he wasn't in the Finals6/22/2012 4:26:33 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Lebron barrelling into Fisher for a flagrant on Fisher did it for me " |
Is this a joke?
Fisher body-checked him, with no intention of going for the ball. It was a textbook flagrant foul.6/22/2012 4:36:32 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
that Cuban video is one of the greatest things Ive ever seen
whoa 6/22/2012 4:44:04 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
^^are you joking? It was a textbook blocking foul.
[Edited on June 22, 2012 at 9:45 PM. Reason : .] 6/22/2012 9:44:42 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah you can't body check a guy while he's going for the dunk. The nba wants exciting basketball not thug ball 6/23/2012 12:21:34 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Next time defenders should just move out of Lebron's way when he barrels towards them, right? You must have hated the NBA in the 80s and 90s. 6/23/2012 2:31:47 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If I said anything bad about miller I'd be very surprised. He's been one of the most Underrated players in the league his entire career. His injuries last year were the main reason Miami didn't win the title (along with haslem s injury). So I'd need to see the quote where I said spoelstra shouldn't be playing miller. " |
IIRC, you said something along the lines of "Miller is lookin like a decrepit old man out there" which could easily e confused as Miller PT Hate.6/23/2012 2:48:29 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Rally has always been a monster Miller fanboy...but he definitely acknowledged how bad he was sucking during the playoffs...which he was. That Game 5 was a thing of beauty though.
I can't imagine him lasting another year, but if Battier and Chalmers can keep that level of play up and/or gradually improve, then the Heat will still be looking good next year. If Miller is done, then they'll obviously need another shooter and just try and continue to shore up their front line. Don't need big time players, just good defenders and rebounders. 6/23/2012 3:13:47 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
Ray Allen sounds like the perfect replacement 6/23/2012 3:29:17 PM |
screentest All American 1955 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You must have hated the NBA in the 80s and 90s." |
nope, but hated those old Knicks-Heat slugfests
for a lot of the 90s and into the 2000s, the game deteriorated aesthetically. if it helps preserve more open, fluid play, i can put up with an occasional soft flagrant foul.
HOLY CHRIST! that Cuban video is incredible. reminiscent of Jon Stewart on Hardball.
[Edited on June 23, 2012 at 4:39 PM. Reason : ...]6/23/2012 4:28:15 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
I think that has a bit more to do with calls that impact the way the game is played...like hand checking versus heavy penalties on the occasional hard foul. Point guard play was also at a low point, partially due to the way the game was called. 6/23/2012 4:49:45 PM |
mnfares All American 1838 Posts user info edit post |
this season:
6/24/2012 2:24:48 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Do you guys think LBJ's decision and success later shows that there won't be purer scorers like KB or MJ anymore? Basketball is changing from an individual-emphasized game to a team-emphasized game?
Some people think LBJ has had enough difficulties and pain on the road to ring. There's no quick way to the top. But for me, I still believe his winning is too easy. 3 superstars together equals to championship team. BOS and SAS's loss shows strategy and cooperation is not that important. Basketball is like 5 on 5 fight. Strong fighter will get the win.
[Edited on June 24, 2012 at 1:33 PM. Reason : add another note] 6/24/2012 1:27:23 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Jordan was a great defender and rebounder that also surrounded himself with elite talent.
Kobe has played nearly his entire career surrounded by elite talent and was a good rebounder/defender himself. So I think the premise of this argument is silly.
There are plenty of guys in the league who can score and do nothing else. Those two were not just scorers. 6/24/2012 1:33:05 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
But relatively speaking, they two have much more average points in their prime than players now.
[Edited on June 24, 2012 at 1:39 PM. Reason : ;] 6/24/2012 1:37:27 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Jordan didn't surround himself with elite talent. The supporting cast was more similar to the Heat, in that he had another Dream Teamer, an additional borderline all star (Grant/Rodman), and a bunch of serviceable role players (Paxson, Armstrong, Cartwright, Wennington and later Harper, Perdue, Longley, Kukoc, Kerr).
Also Lebron does arguably some of the things Jordan did, without as much scoring and assuming some of the Pippen role...
[Edited on June 24, 2012 at 4:35 PM. Reason : .] 6/24/2012 4:33:38 PM |
Sleik All American 11177 Posts user info edit post |
^^ MJ's usage rate was ridiculous (and it needed to be), and everyone knows/says how KB is a very effective scorer on high-difficulty shots (and also has a high usage rate). Nothing about LBJ's game will consistently be described as efficient until more of his shot charts look like the ones seen here: http://deadspin.com/5920508/fewer-threes-more-post-how-lebron-james-completely-overhauled-his-playoff-game
Whereas before he took too many 3s with that crooked-ass jumper, now he's looking to attack the rim or get the ball with his back to the basket, which will lead him both to shots that are fundamentally easier to make, and more free throw attempts.
[Edited on June 25, 2012 at 2:38 AM. Reason : KB, not KD] 6/25/2012 2:37:13 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Jordan didn't surround himself with elite talent.... Proceed to list elite talent 6/25/2012 8:13:43 AM |
settledown Suspended 11583 Posts user info edit post |
i feel like the black car saved the yellow car 6/25/2012 8:36:30 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
^^ LBJ's shooting skill is poor, much worse than MJ or KB. And his penetration gets him injury very easily. He can only use his body, like DH. He needs to improve shooting a lot. The final last year failed because of his 3 point shot bricks.
[Edited on June 25, 2012 at 9:20 AM. Reason : add another note] 6/25/2012 9:00:48 AM |
markbrandpan Veteran 358 Posts user info edit post |
Is Kevin Durant not a pure scorer? I would argue that he is more of a pure scorer than Jordan or Kobe, who have/had much better all-around games. That being said, I'm looking forward to Durant becoming more of a complete player. He has the potential to be an all-time great.
Sad as it is, Lebron's jumper is vastly improved from his rookie season. Given his size/athleticism/passing ability, it just makes more sense for him to work from the post.
[Edited on June 25, 2012 at 9:09 AM. Reason : .] 6/25/2012 9:08:39 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Lebron is a better outside shooter than Jordan for sure 6/25/2012 11:30:45 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Really? But Jordan has a 3pt shot moment back in 1992 final. That's one of his highlights. 6/25/2012 11:34:41 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
their career percentages are almost identical
the difference is, MJ sucked dick from outside the arc his first few seasons, and improved his shot over his career, posting multiple seasons with 40+ % shooting
lebron has pretty much been 30% every year of his career
Jordan is a better shooter period than Lebron, Lebron would be scary if he ever developed a jumper 6/25/2012 11:35:19 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
They want to dunk because it earns them attention. Nobody like watching boring shooters like Ray Allen. 6/25/2012 11:48:21 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
why didn't you call yourself "dunk" instead of "shoot"? 6/25/2012 11:50:54 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
It's so stupid right? My alias is a shortcut of the full name--directshoot. You know directshoot? It's a hot key for alley-oop in NBA live series. 6/25/2012 11:55:57 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah I'm sure its just coincidence tree that Jordan shot well during the seasons where the nba moved the 3 point line closer by 2 feet but sucked every other season
Eye test must not have been able to tell the difference 6/25/2012 2:19:49 PM |