rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
What you can say is negative, and what you can say is positive, is all subjective to the reader of those articles. A lefty wanting to take down Trump probably thinks all those articles are positive - positive in affecting change for what they feel would be a better situation.
That's what we've gotten away from. News shouldn't be positive. Shouldn't be negative. It should just be. Does CNN leave out statistics that might show Trump in a positive light? Sure they do. What those stats are I couldn't tell you. Is that fake? No, still isn't fake.
To make the charge that CNN is fake is a pretty big deal in my opinion.
And a few other things I took away from that press conference...mainly this, and I'm paraphrasing here:
"I know what is fake news and what isn't, so you should trust what I say."
That's very fucking scary and dangerous, and it sounds like something the Kims would say. 2/17/2017 10:28:55 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/16/trump-travel-ban-replacement-us-immigration
New EO on travel/immigration ban coming 2/17/2017 10:29:15 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
National Guard eyed to round up unauthorized immigrants
Quote : | "A draft memo obtained by The Associated Press outlines a Trump administration proposal under consideration to mobilize as many as 100,000 National Guard troops to round up unauthorized immigrants. Millions of those who would be affected in 11 states live nowhere near the Mexico border.
The 11-page document calls for the unprecedented militarization of immigration enforcement as far north as Portland, Oregon, and as far east as New Orleans, Louisiana. If the proposal is implemented, governors in the affected states would have final approval on whether troops under their control participate." |
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2017/02/17/trump-considers-mobilizing-national-guard-troops-round-unauthorized-immigrants/3gm95mDZrZhnks6aGPYKNJ/story.html
congratulations, you elected literally hitler2/17/2017 10:29:52 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Naaaaw, their shirts aren't brown. 2/17/2017 10:34:27 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
White House and DHS denied afterwards but also were asked to comment by AP and declined to.
Again, AP gave them a chance to dispute it and they chose not to for obvious reasons - they can claim it was "fake news" and mislead legions of those who already are skeptical.
[Edited on February 17, 2017 at 10:54 AM. Reason : Sad!]
[Edited on February 17, 2017 at 10:55 AM. Reason : DHS not hhs obviously] 2/17/2017 10:54:07 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
well after this is all over maybe we can ship all the people from the rust belt to the southwest. There will be a plethora of restaurant jobs available. 2/17/2017 11:09:40 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "rjrumfel All American 19083 Posts user info edit post The first black president in American history and he isn't going to commemorate the 150th anniversary of the Gettysburg Address. That's got to be minus something.
I guess there's just too much golf out there to play.
11/18/2013 6:57:51 PM" |
Quote : | " kdogg(c) All American 3246 Posts user info edit post
The guy has played more golf than Tiger Woods since taking office, but can't submit a budget on time.
If it tells you anything, it tells you that the Federal Government has too much power (time it takes to write a budget), and the President sucks at his job.
1/23/2012 6:28:48 PM" |
Hey kdogg and rjrumfel, how do you guys feel about Trump flying to mar a lago for golf for the 3rd weekend in a row?2/17/2017 11:28:08 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
I think it's a bunch of bull crap, especially since he also gave Obama shit for playing golf.
Why do you think my response with Trump would be any different than with Obama? 2/17/2017 11:31:52 AM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
@MahirZeynalov has been a good follow to provide perspective and insight of a populist government, such as Trump's. He is one of the leading reporters of the Turkey/Erdogan situation, so has some good experience strategies and tactics of a populist leader attempting to consolidate power. 2/17/2017 11:57:47 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
God forbid we enforce immigration laws. God forbid we enforce laws! HITLER! 2/17/2017 12:10:53 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
If we enforced laws most white teenagers would be in prison for possession of an illegal substance. 2/17/2017 12:13:04 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Just throwing out random straw men now.
Triggered as fuck. 2/17/2017 12:14:44 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
That isn't a straw man, its what dtownral said 10 posts up 2/17/2017 12:16:10 PM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "God forbid we enforce laws!" |
Laws like the Posse Comitatus Act? The President can't use the military to enforce laws. The governors of states can use the National Guard for that purpose. I don't believe he can.2/17/2017 12:39:08 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
I just saw the "anti-Semite" narrative question and how Trump called it out.
+10000 credibility
Then he called out the other side for staging events and hoaxes to suggest that
+10000 credibility
The man is on fire 2/17/2017 2:09:06 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
his pants sure are on fire. you know, for lying about basically everything 24/7. 2/17/2017 2:25:54 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
he is just running over the media
they have no idea what to do
and their supporters (i.e., Democrats in Congress, and Liberals in general) have their hair on fire trying to figure this out
c'mon, Soros...fund more protests/demonstrations/riots!!!!!! 2/17/2017 2:46:17 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
It's all fun and games until we aren't creating 150-250,000 jobs a month anymore. Clowns are fine until we hit a rough patch economically, which is probably likely at some point during his tenure.
[Edited on February 17, 2017 at 2:53 PM. Reason : X] 2/17/2017 2:53:21 PM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
Just because he talks over reporters/ignores and deflects doesn't mean he is "running all over the media". He looks like a fucking clown. But hey, you voted for him.
[Edited on February 17, 2017 at 3:58 PM. Reason : l] 2/17/2017 3:58:06 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
The mentality that "he's acting like an arrogant, ignorant clown... that's awesome!" is very perplexing to me.
I seriously can't see how anybody can watch that press conference and not wonder about this guy's mental stability... and intelligence. Party loyalty, I guess? Or maybe the admiration is due to a common enemy? It seems like any sane, half-way intelligent person can see that he's saying some crazy stuff that doesn't make any sense.
[Edited on February 17, 2017 at 4:26 PM. Reason : ] 2/17/2017 4:03:58 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
does kdogg actually think protesters get paid or is it just trolling? 2/17/2017 4:05:31 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
i'm pretty sure he's slightly unhinged (kdogg... and the president. maybe that's the reason for the admiration) 2/17/2017 4:07:21 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
The media is calling him a liar to his face and all he can do is sputter "I was given that information"
Newspaper subscriptions are up, CNN ratings are up, investigative journalism is important again. The Media is gonna be fine. 2/17/2017 4:09:17 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I mean look at the polls. It is playing well to his base, of which KDogg is a part of. Actually moreso than most GOP on here. He has fallen for every hoax and fake story out there.
** why did Comey meet with Senators and how has nothing been leaked yet? Interesting..
[Edited on February 17, 2017 at 4:18 PM. Reason : X] 2/17/2017 4:16:24 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Just tweeted and deleted:
Quote : | "Feb 17, 2017 04:32:29 PM - The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @CNN, @NBCNews and many more) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American people. SICK!" |
Where are we headed with this nonsense?2/17/2017 4:37:49 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
violence 2/17/2017 4:41:55 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Yep, I'm really starting to worry about that. It's concerning to read some of the comments on WRAL. And I know there are 10s (100s?) of thousands of the same type of people with the same mentality across the country 2/17/2017 4:44:30 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
last week was the first time in my life i purchased ammo in bulk 2/17/2017 5:38:28 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
The next Ferguson will be very bloody. That's what scares me the most about this administration. I just hope it's more of a revolution than a race war. 2/17/2017 5:44:02 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Where are we headed with this nonsense? " |
Dude, you know bloody damn well where this is going. Why do you keep asking this in earnest like you can't see the writing on the wall?
This nation is a powder keg right now, and the next time there is a Ferguson (there will be), or an ICE raid that involves the death of a child or elderly person (very likely), or a Muslim registry or a specific journalist targeted by the administration and killed, there will be protests.
And those protests will be met with the full force of the state controlled by an unhinged madman desperate to assert his power.2/17/2017 6:34:56 PM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
^ 2/17/2017 7:02:08 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/832708293516632065
He didn't delete the teeet 2/17/2017 7:12:29 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
seems he deleted, then reposted without the SICK! at the end 2/17/2017 7:28:15 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
https://twitter.com/ErickFernandez/status/832712183905603584
Quote : | "@realDonaldTrump you're right, your enemy is the English language, coherent sentences and facts.
https://t.co/WASTAQ92kB " |
2/17/2017 8:10:59 PM |
beatsunc All American 10748 Posts user info edit post |
comey met with the senate today to work on the plan to take care of trump i suspect 2/17/2017 10:13:01 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "there will be protests." |
Leftist protests/riots aka George Soros parades are meaningless to anyone outside of the groupthink participants.
You riot when a black cop shoots a black thug resisting arrest in Charlotte You riot when a thug fighting for a cops gun gets shot in Ferguson You protest when that taxpayers no longer have to fund your birth control You riot when someone you don't like wins a democratic election You riot when a gay jew tries to exercise free speech at Berkley
I don't care how many crazy cat lady leftist bloggers write opinion pieces calling your gullible marxist parades "powerful" and "brave"... nobody outside of your groupthink cares about leftist "protests".2/17/2017 10:43:46 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
I'm no expert but these protest seem to effect you deeply. 2/17/2017 10:54:00 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " or a specific journalist targeted by the administration and killed" |
And you call me unhinged.
Didn't Obama spy on journalists and kill American citizens?
So....yeah....narrative.
Hey did you guys hear that POTUS is going to use the National Guard to round up illegals?
So....yeah....the media will be fine.2/17/2017 11:05:29 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
Please, you better axe somebody. I was very outspoken in this forum about Obama's assault on civil liberties and his continuation of wars of empire.
So....yeah....consistency. 2/17/2017 11:49:00 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
Looks like someone took that personally. 2/18/2017 6:52:06 AM |
MONGO All American 599 Posts user info edit post |
He also left out CBS in the OG tweet. 2/18/2017 7:33:48 AM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-coal-rivers-regulation-scrapped-law-a7584916.html
Yay, I too hate streams and rivers.
Have fun with that West Virginia. Coal is still going away. AND you get to not have nature. 2/18/2017 8:03:03 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " And you call me unhinged.
Didn't Obama spy on journalists and kill American citizens?
So....yeah....narrative. " |
Here's that lovely deflection I keep seeing. Any legitimate criticism is 'rebutted' with a, "Well Obama did x, y, z..."
It's going to be a long two years if this is the only response I see.2/18/2017 12:07:29 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And those protests will be met with the full force of the state" |
Well it's about damn time; this is what should have been happening for the last 3 years. At least half of America is fed up with watching our cities burn without consequence.2/18/2017 12:18:05 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Our cities aren't burning dude
[Edited on February 18, 2017 at 12:23 PM. Reason : I'd like to see your "at least half" data too plz]
[Edited on February 18, 2017 at 12:25 PM. Reason : America should totally address protests like Syria did. Full force of the State!] 2/18/2017 12:22:45 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And those protests will be met with the full force of the state" |
Would be nice if they used that same mentality with respect to the violence in Chicago.2/18/2017 12:25:51 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Comparing protests in the US to "protests" in Syria is comical. Is our CIA going to back foreign born militants disguised as protesters in the US with financing, small arms, anti-tank devices, and satellite intelligence, while the Russians provide Trump with air support?
2/18/2017 1:02:19 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Did the Ravens win the Super Bowl? 2/18/2017 1:05:55 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Justin Tucker missed a field goal. 2/18/2017 1:29:52 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
2/18/2017 6:07:03 PM |