Disagree. Optimal lineups are significantly more important than theoretical positions.

He said small dick read the thread

4/13/2013 11:42:48 AM

First the ACL tear and now this...

Levi always fucking shit up for us!

4/13/2013 2:37:02 PM

Levi was a major recruit too. Top 40.

Guy played great in the red/white game nailing threes and then completely sucked the first ~15 games of his freshman year. Looked scared all the time.

Conference play starts and the first game against Maryland he's having the first good game of his career. Bam tears his ACL.

It would be his first good game and one of his last. Three mostly painful years after that. Huge bust for a top 40 recruit.

And now the ghost of Levi returns to haunt us.

For having some really nice rosters/recruits over the years it's really stunning the lack of success that's followed.

4/13/2013 7:00:12 PM

not that stunning

4/13/2013 8:01:19 PM

What's Jordan Collins up to? Can we get him back?

4/13/2013 11:08:39 PM

Last I heard, JC was in Israel coming off of the bench.

4/14/2013 12:33:10 AM

I'm not sure Levi ever mentally got over the acl. Rarely did you see him aggressively driving after that, but then again you didn't see much of that in the Herb era. Evtimov never relied on athleticism before or after the acl...

4/14/2013 7:27:40 AM

Anyone know why we aren't on Uchebo's radar? Are we not pursuing him or is he not interested. He's a 6'11" former top 100 recruit, has 3 years left after a medical redshirt and originally committed to us. Seems like there should be mutual interest.

4/14/2013 9:26:30 AM

Gottfried has decided Sidney Lowe only recruited head cases.

4/14/2013 9:54:44 AM

He's coming off of a pretty bad injury and hasn't seen game time in a while...I believe.

4/14/2013 11:43:18 AM

i don't think wood, howell, brown, davis, painter, horner, smith, thomas, or cj williams were legitimate headcases.

and yeah, i don't think uchebo hardely played any this last year at juco due to a bad knee injury.

[Edited on April 14, 2013 at 12:13 PM. Reason : ]

4/14/2013 12:13:08 PM

Williams, Horner, and Thomas were all Herb recruits

just sayin'

4/14/2013 12:27:13 PM

Well, maybe, kinda. Thomas was in class of '07 and Horner stuck with Sid in '06 after Herb left. And CJ Williams was '08, 2 years after Herb left.

4/14/2013 12:56:20 PM

CJ Williams and "headcase" should not be in the same sentence

4/14/2013 12:58:29 PM

True, but you can really never trust an adult in braces.

4/14/2013 1:01:49 PM

while Williams was indeed in the '08 class, he committed to State in '06

and had been recruited since '05

[Edited on April 14, 2013 at 1:10 PM. Reason : Thomas committed in June of '06, after having been recruited by Herb and staff for 2+ years]

4/14/2013 1:09:19 PM

I hear ya. But they all had the chance to decommit, but instead committed to Sid, so that makes them his recruits as well (particularly Williams). Anyways, sorry for beleaguering the point.

4/14/2013 1:26:48 PM

no need to apologize. this is the perpetual State Basketball Recruiting thread

4/14/2013 1:38:38 PM

I would like to get credit for saying that we were going to sorely miss CJ Williams and that the chances of a freshman SG coming into the ACC, Starting and adequately filling in for him was a slim chance to begin with.

4/14/2013 1:45:01 PM

CJ williams was a bit of a headcase.

Guy was really solid as a freshman and a great shooter.

Sophomore year he was unplayable and a TERRIBLE shooter.

junior year he was meh.

Senior year he was pretty damn good.


Also, his defense was WILDLY inconsistent. At times he was an elite defender and at other times he was below average. Could never figure that one out. He was great against most people because he was so athletic. But he was a little slow so sometimes quicker, smaller opponents would just blow by him.

4/14/2013 2:05:18 PM

^
^^

4/14/2013 2:09:46 PM

4/14/2013 2:17:16 PM

Quote :

"I would like to get credit for saying that we were going to sorely miss CJ Williams and that the chances of a freshman SG coming into the ACC, Starting and adequately filling in for him was a slim chance to begin with."

if you are anywhere close to serious in thinking that our problems this year were that we weren't able to replace cj williams, you weren't paying attention.

4/14/2013 9:45:52 PM

It was a large problem. He was a leader and a solid defender. Don't kid yourself.

4/14/2013 10:12:47 PM

This thread has been pretty fucking horrible the past 2-3 pages

4/14/2013 10:14:02 PM

100% agree... stick to the actual topic folks. If it's not about current recruiting, find another thread!

4/14/2013 10:17:21 PM

Quote :

"This thread has been pretty fucking horrible the past 200-300 pages"

ftfy

4/14/2013 10:23:07 PM

I've never ridden the train at pullen park. I feel cheated.

4/15/2013 1:25:11 AM

Quote :

"Or we could put less emphasis on the break and have everyone help out with rebounding. Which is just common sense anyway considering that Lewis will be our point guard, and he is better in the half-court than in transition."

I don't know that I agree. I think Lewis is fantastic on the break. I think he's more likely to beat a defender and make a great play for himself or a highlight pass to a teammate while running full-court.

4/15/2013 11:36:08 AM

^ yeah. lewis is better in the half court? based on what?

4/15/2013 12:04:51 PM

he's definitely not as quick (or strong) on the break as Zo

4/15/2013 12:20:57 PM

Agreed, but he's also less likely to turn it over than Zo was.

4/15/2013 12:33:37 PM

So Lennard Freeman visited this weekend, and Davis is supposedly visiting next weekend.

Apparently Pitt is also interested in both

Quote :

"Oak Hill PF Lennard Freeman visits Villanova this wknd and Pitt May 3-5"

4/15/2013 3:03:00 PM

apparently, looking like the Davis thing isn't gonna work out

4/15/2013 3:58:30 PM

^ Yep. Rumors that he might be canceling his visit.

4/15/2013 4:01:58 PM

WHAT A SURPRISE

4/15/2013 4:18:52 PM

BUT HE WAS IN THE BAG

OURS TO LOSE

4/15/2013 4:22:23 PM

RUMORS

4/15/2013 4:25:24 PM

LIL DINOS SUCKED

4/15/2013 4:44:27 PM

CATS AND DOGS LIVING TOGETHER

4/15/2013 4:45:29 PM

"STICK TO THE ACTUAL TOPIC FOLKS"

4/15/2013 4:49:21 PM

#SOURCES

4/15/2013 4:56:41 PM

this thread is getting off topic, somebody post some youtube videos of sweaty high school boys hooping it up

4/15/2013 5:04:58 PM

Quote :

"repost: Anthony Barber's Senior HighligHts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JMNDVkIgQsU Kyle Washington's Senior HigHlights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VVGN3liUY94 BeeJay Anya (Feb 20 video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i07DgJSUIpo Desmond Lee's Freshman HighligHts at New Mexico JC (he just finished his sophomore year): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFZhDjfy7Rk 2014 commits Cody and Caleb Martin http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=R90T22tNvx4 And some 2012 HighliGhts of Lennard Freeman and BeeJay from 2012: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkUpnWP9nbU"

4/15/2013 5:06:13 PM

Quote :

"he's definitely not as quick (or strong) on the break as Zo"

that has absolutely nothing to do with whether tyler lewis is better in transition or half court.

4/15/2013 10:28:17 PM

um who is lutz talking about at 20:23?

http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-98600/TS-738200.mp3

[Edited on April 16, 2013 at 12:56 AM. Reason : .]

4/16/2013 12:56:28 AM

^probably des lee. if he hasn't signed we probably can't talk about him yet.

4/16/2013 1:23:14 AM

Rivals released it's final 2014 rankings. Here's how our recruits stack-up compared to the rest of the ACC (courtesy of PI!!!)

Quote :

"Point Guards Tyler Ennis – #4 – Syracuse – 5 stars (22) Anthony Barber – #5 PG – NC State – 4 stars (27 Overall) Demetrius Jackson – #9 – Notre Dame – 4 stars (38) Roddy Peters – #10 – Maryland – 4 stars (48) Nate Britt – #19 – UNC – 4 stars (90) Devon Hall – #28 – UVA – 3 stars (122) Josh Newkirk – #29 – Pittsburgh – 3 stars (129) Travis Jorgenson – #33 – Georgia Tech – 3 stars (147) Centers Kennedy Meeks – #4 – UNC – 4 stars (57) BeeJay Anya – #5 – NC State – 4 stars (58) Kyle Washington – #14 – NC State – 4 stars (93) Jarquez Smith – #18 – FSU – 4 stars (113)"

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2752

4/16/2013 12:21:41 PM

^They may be side by side in rankings, but Im glad we have Anya instead of Meeks.

4/16/2013 1:14:40 PM

is Meeks the fattest ACC player since Nigel Dixon? God, he's so fat and disgusting

4/16/2013 1:56:21 PM