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he doesn't want to see a flop with aces, but will chase a gut-shot......okay

[Edited on August 31, 2005 at 10:20 PM. Reason : sad]

8/31/2005 10:20:08 PM

yeah, it was fun watching him squander the rest of his money away while i was at the table

8/31/2005 10:43:00 PM

OK... how about this:

My neighbor is tired of getting whipped in our cash games, and wants to do a bunch of single table tourneys one night this weekend.

So how about this: Late night Friday, like 10-1030 PM. My place in North Raleigh

$10 to $20 per game. If we get enough folks we'll do 2 tables. Otherwise, single table games, and we'll pay according based on the # of people involved.

PM for more info

8/31/2005 11:42:22 PM

ugg.

why can i not win in a home game (>200) to save my life.

yeah ill call you with bottom pair and nail a flush on the river.

yeah ill call you with bottom pair on a paired board 4 handed and hit the case 5.

what the fuck.

after 5 hours, 3 won hands (2 steals) and a decent bit of cash departed from my pocket, ill stick to online or vegas/ac.

theres really no point.

i think god hates me

good thing i was +60 BB playing 6 max this afternoon online...

9/1/2005 2:06:07 AM

I'm always game for a tournament, but moreso with slightly lower stakes (~$20 is fine) than others prefer.

I've had a horrid streak... again... and sadly it had to be broken by, of all things, my fraternity's poker night. Unfortunately I haven't found an online site that takes $50 Best Buy gift cards for buy-ins

9/1/2005 5:38:04 PM

I have been playing at a new site, Pacific, and doing fairly well. Amazingly, although I have seen over 500 hands, I have not tripped up on a pocket pair yet. Not on the flop, turn, or river.... very odd.

9/2/2005 11:31:55 AM

OK I have a card for $10 free on Pacific Poker. No deposit required. If someone wants the info, be the first to post here. My only stipulation is, if you win a lot, you wire me the $10 back. If you lose, no big deal.

9/2/2005 2:34:31 PM

yo gimme dat

9/2/2005 2:38:12 PM

didnt i get you 50 on some site, hook me up1!!1

9/2/2005 2:38:46 PM

pacific has a nice pineapple game.

i love pineapple .



(but the software blows)

[Edited on September 2, 2005 at 5:49 PM. Reason : e]

9/2/2005 5:48:57 PM

awww man i am pissed

i was playing the other day

and i had 3 of a kind(aces no less)

anyway we were betting and stuff and the pot got really big and i figured he had 2 pair

well i'm all ready to win until he had a full house and i was all like "damn"

9/2/2005 5:53:02 PM

Hey guys, I'm sorry. I amout visiting my family in Kentucky. I forgot my little brother plays poker, so I gave the card to him. I promise if I get anymore free promos I'll hook ya up though.

9/3/2005 8:24:31 AM

How did you come upon it?

9/3/2005 2:24:54 PM

Quote :

"*** SHOW DOWN *** unluckybud: shows [4h 5h] (a straight, Deuce to Six) jackleg512: shows [3h 6c] (a full house, Sixes full of Threes) jackleg512 collected 40 from side pot-2 WV YANKEES: shows [As Qs] (a pair of Sixes) jackleg512 collected 1500 from side pot-1 speak: shows [Kc Ks] (two pair, Kings and Sixes) jackleg512 collected 4080 from main pot"

thats for you droldschool

9/3/2005 3:01:56 PM

3-6 a winner

The pokerroom strikes again

9/3/2005 3:13:29 PM

thats the only reason i played that hand, i guess i owe you a dollar for the lesson

9/3/2005 3:18:18 PM

This shit just can't be real.... From 2 different $5 SnGs on pokerrom

I have 10c9c and about 2k in chips on button
4 players see flop to small raise, including me
flop QJ3 rainbow... 1st player bets, all call
Turn K Bet, raise, All in to me... I think and call. As does everyone else
The 1st all in also has 109 the other 2 BOTH have A10
River 8... just for fun

So a bit later
I have 2500 in chips in SB, get A9 off
No PF raises, 4 people in
Flop A25 I check, bet from BB, fold, raise (he was 2 from the button), I call, next guy calls
Turn 9 I check, bet from BB, all in from other guy. I call of course (didn't think anyone played 34 - though i was worried about a low set). BB folds
He has 8 3 OFFSUIT!!
River 4, of course... raises twice with a gutshot and hits

Same table, I have about 500 in chips left
Get KQ in BB, and have Mr. 83 puts me all in preflop. So i call (only had 2.5* the blind anyway).
He has A9 this time
Flop 99K.... shit
Turn K.... YES!
River.... 9
Another cased card winner, from your friends at pokerroom

If anyone knows of any sites a Mac user can play on without using VirtualPC, please let me know

9/4/2005 1:39:15 AM

Hollywood poker allows you to play on a mac, but you have to play through your web browser. There is a stand alone download but it only works on the PC.

9/4/2005 1:47:40 AM

Pacific Poker has a java based client similar to pokerroom which is mac compatable

If anyone has and account there and wants to refer me for the bonus, PM me

[Edited on September 4, 2005 at 1:57 AM. Reason : c]

9/4/2005 1:57:06 AM

i couldn't catch a damn flop tonight to save my life, I am back down to being even on partypoker

everytime i had something good, someone has something slightly better, UGH

hahahahaha, ugh, god i hate this game sometimes, that river will fuck you over till no end

[Edited on September 5, 2005 at 2:57 AM. Reason : .]

9/5/2005 2:56:02 AM

oh hell i got it on my cellphone now

9/5/2005 1:02:28 PM

this just isn't even fun anymore

the shit these people pull out of their asses on partypoker is insane

in the past two days i haven't hit one good fucking hand

fuck putting more money in, i'm done with this online shit

9/5/2005 1:08:08 PM

wow 12 hours later

9/5/2005 1:25:39 PM

^^ i feel the same way i just lost my whole bankroll to suckouts.


Partypoker has a decent PRNG however they use time of day (insecure) and network activity to seed. There HAS to be heavy bias towards flushes and straights, i know im not the only one that sees it. Also if somone has QQ, you better be damned sure somone is gonna have KK or AA or JJ. The amount of pocket pairs preflop amuses me. And I always love allin with a monster hand getting called by some stupid connectors and of course hitting the straight on the river.

If I ever put more $ in it is going to be at paradise poker. At least their card shuffling is superiour.

[Edited on September 5, 2005 at 1:29 PM. Reason : </2¢>]

9/5/2005 1:27:10 PM

if you are in a position where a few beats eats your whole br, you are playing way above your head.

you shouldnt even consider sitting down at a nl table unless your br is at least 50x the max buy in.

thats my rule.

also, you SHOULD learn the game by starting out at limit.

the swings are much lower, and your feeble br will go alot further.

or go to pokerstars or somewhere where you can play micro limits in order to build your game. (despite the fact i dont really know how much good that iwll do)

i know a fellow who build his entire bankroll from $10 playing $0.01/0.02 7cs8, and now is properly rolled for 5/10.




now for my story,

i hate going bust at a table the hand following the rake requirements for a reload bonus is complete.

AQ on the button, pot limit holdem.

5 limpers, i bet the pot, bb calls
flop comes AQ7, he bets the pot, i call.
7, he checks to me, i bet 1/2 the pot, he calls
river is the Q, he bets out large, i go over the top all in....


77

feck.


and there goes the hundred or so i was up over the bonus.

i was way behind the whole way. he played it really oddly however.

9/5/2005 2:26:08 PM

OMG!! IT MUST BE RIGGED. THE RNGS AREN'T RIGHT

9/5/2005 2:31:09 PM

my 5k hands with no real recording system sample size is ginormous!

[Edited on September 5, 2005 at 2:36 PM. Reason : e]

9/5/2005 2:36:14 PM

^^^ yeah i know. I was definatly sitting with way less than i should be.

PP has microlimits now, and oddly enough thats where i lost like 50 bucks O_o

but then again one night i brought 10.00 to 25$NL table and left with 80+

[Edited on September 5, 2005 at 9:36 PM. Reason : ^]

9/5/2005 9:36:10 PM

Anyone want to play tonight in N raleigh?

Probably 9ish start.... $20 buy in cash game

9/6/2005 5:02:15 PM

Yeah... I tried pacific poker.... played 2 games and yanked my $ right back out. Their java interface no download mac version does not work for shit. I kept getting booted and it would kick in hands when I tried to play/raise.

So hollywood poker is next on my list.... anyone have an account there? PM me if you want the bonus

9/8/2005 3:11:41 AM

the bonus is close to unclearable in the first place.

its like 500% up to $1000.

but you clear it in $50 increments.

[Edited on September 8, 2005 at 8:40 AM. Reason : e]

9/8/2005 8:40:25 AM

I also thought you were against pokerroom?

you are aware that the hollywood is a pokerroom skin, using the same players, tables, rng, etc...

just i think the tournaments are different

9/8/2005 1:42:51 PM

I honestly didn't know. I was just looking for anywhere that takes a mac with no virtual pc necessary. It was the only other I'd found thus far.

I shall keep looking.... Thanks for the info.

9/8/2005 2:05:30 PM

party poker has the easiest bonus clearing.


125 raked hands, can't beat that.

9/8/2005 2:27:51 PM

expekt had a signup for $100 in 100 raked hands.

that was hot.

to bad it was for non us players only

and the asked for id when i cashed out =(

9/8/2005 8:31:49 PM

i think i'm about done with online play

you get way too many people playing hands they have absolutely no business playing, and they get lucky with turn and rivers and will beat you

not fun in my mind

i'll accept my losses and just stop playing online

9/8/2005 8:42:58 PM

^ start playing higher stakes

9/8/2005 9:31:14 PM

^^

Depends on how risk averse your players are. Besides even if you call a bet that you have 93% chance to win where you can lose your whole stack that's not the best of bets over time. That's why it helps to have build a bank roll.

^

Shitty players like myself can't even win a 1/2 cash game around here much less higher stakes than that. I'll try it in a few years though

9/8/2005 9:42:48 PM

^um no. pot odds dictate you call that shit. if you are in a position to lose your entire bankroll you shouldn't be playing those limits

[Edited on September 8, 2005 at 10:30 PM. Reason : .]

9/8/2005 10:29:39 PM

.10/.25 blinds, $25NL max table. i get rockets, raise to $1 preflop and two others call. flop comes Ah, 8d, Qs. me and other guy checks, dealer raises to two. i reraise to $4, dealer calls and other guy folds. turn is 5s. i bet $2, guy raises to $4, i put him all-in which is about $20. river is 2s. that fucker shows AsKs, catching running spades to beat my trips aces. i was so pissed i nearly broke my laptop right there

9/9/2005 7:19:00 AM

pokenum -h as ks - ad ac -- ah 8d qs 5s
Holdem Hi: 44 enumerated boards containing Qs 5s 8d Ah
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Ks 8 18.18 36 81.82 0 0.00 0.182
Ac Ad 36 81.82 8 18.18 0 0.00 0.818

happens 18% of the time, thats not that bad.

you made the right move, just know that much.

mark him in your notes as not having the ability to lay down top pair top kicker, and keep exploiting that when you make good hands. most of the 25nl tables lack this ability. (except around these times where party/multi/empire all had reloads (like this past week, those tables can actually become pretty wretched due to the massive number of bonus chasers that propagate the 25 nl/pl. i dont even touch the 25 plo8 tables any time near a reload b/c the vp$ip drops from like 40+ to close to 30 or less, and the game becomes too tight to be profitable, or enjoyable. trying to hone the plo8 game.. limit is still more profitable for me somehow..)

you played it right, but its not that bad of a beat.


i say that despite the fact that you played way too weak on the flop. There is no real point in not betting out with a set on that flop. with your being the initial pfr, a checkraise screams set to me. (id lay down AK) bet it out with abut a75% pot bet, and i gaurentee the guy who ended up all in with the AK would probably riase you on the button, and you could either a, go over the top, or smooth call. you want him to put as much in the pot as possible. your stats on the flop were much more favorable, but he improved greatly after the turn.

pokenum -h as ks - ad ac -- ah 8d qs
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Qs 8d Ah
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Ks 51 5.15 939 94.85 0 0.00 0.052
Ac Ad 939 94.85 51 5.15 0 0.00 0.948

slow playing online or trying to trap online just doesnt work. nor is it really that necessary.


[Edited on September 9, 2005 at 7:33 AM. Reason : e]

9/9/2005 7:28:08 AM

yeah i guess. i'm still trying to learn the right betting methods, and calculating pots on the fly isn't really my forte, but you're right about betting on the flop

9/9/2005 7:44:21 AM

well i made myself feel a lot better this morning. i can't remember the cards exactly, but i had 5c8c, and the flop came with 2 clubs. i bet $1, other 2 guys call. i get my flush on the turn, so i bet $2, first guy folds, next guy raises to $4. i'm thinking "shit, he's got a higher flush." river card was a 9s, so i check and the other guy goes all-in for about $19. i really had to think about it, because he'd been playing tight all day, but i eventually called and he just had a 2 pair.

i was really proud of myself

9/9/2005 1:14:03 PM

.25/.50 GAME TONIGHT IN NORTH RALEIGH

PM DrOldSchool FOR SPECIFICS

9/9/2005 3:29:39 PM

i'll let this one speak for itself

#Game No : 2690251626
***** Hand History for Game 2690251626 *****
$0.50/$1 Texas Hold'em - Saturday, September 10, 21:48:05 EDT 2005
Table Beginners #1040164 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 5: dzimm111 ( $47.50 )
Seat 3: stingrayrush ( $47.50 )
Seat 7: MSPendleton ( $21.37 )
Seat 4: kitohiro ( $13.25 )
Seat 6: Wildcat23111 ( $16.75 )
Seat 1: corny1111 ( $26.25 )
Seat 10: fatcliffie ( $17.50 )
Seat 9: davep52 ( $17.25 )
Seat 8: Timer999 ( $25 )
Seat 2: sloughboy ( $27.75 )
stingrayrush posts small blind [$0.25].
kitohiro posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to stingrayrush [ 8c Tc ]
dzimm111 calls [$0.50].
Wildcat23111 calls [$0.50].
MSPendleton folds.
davep52 calls [$0.50].
fatcliffie folds.
corny1111 folds.
sloughboy folds.
stingrayrush calls [$0.25].
kitohiro checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7c, Jc, 3d ]
stingrayrush bets [$0.50].
kitohiro folds.
dzimm111 raises [$1].
Wildcat23111 calls [$1].
davep52 folds.
stingrayrush calls [$0.50].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]
stingrayrush checks.
dzimm111 bets [$1].
Wildcat23111 folds.
stingrayrush calls [$1].
** Dealing River ** [ 9c ]
stingrayrush bets [$1].
dzimm111 raises [$2].
stingrayrush raises [$2].
dzimm111 raises [$2].
stingrayrush calls [$1].
dzimm111 shows [ Jh, Js ] four of a kind, jacks.
stingrayrush shows [ 8c, Tc ] a straight flush, jack high.
stingrayrush wins $14.75 from the main pot with a straight flush, jack high

9/11/2005 9:09:20 AM

^^fuhck, i would've played if i knew, you guys should do that tonight too

9/11/2005 12:30:04 PM

we got a sweet 7cs8/oh8 split game going last night.

id like to get something like that going on a regular.

9/11/2005 1:03:04 PM

Anyone ever have this happen to them.....

I reluctantly put money into hollywood poker despite its relationship to pokerroom. Figured I'd see if the level of play was any better at the low stakes tables/games. To my surprise it was far far worse. But I figured I'd play til i tripled what i put in or lost my entire roll (50 bucks).

So I go into a $5 multi with 550 people in, and play ultra conservatively, and do really well watching idiots go all in with abosolute crap and lose. I wound up making the final table, and pushing/losing when i had less than 3* the big blind under the gun.

There was a problem with the tourney though i noticed while playing, and talked about with other players as the game went on. It wasn't listing those who busted as cashed, and showed 59 players still in when we were at the final table (top 60 pay). Thus, we never played hand for hand while the tourney progressed and cash levels increased as we normally would. Its worth noting that the lobby chats people were bitching about not getting into games, so I guess a server may have went down?

So when I busted, it said i went out in 58th, winning $13 and not $192.

I called their support line immediately, and they have the hand history (as do I) but have to supposebly go through supervisors and stuff to fix it 'cause they had not seen anything like it before.

But I just want my $ so i can pull it out, as I met my goal of tripling up. Who knew there were actually worse players out there than on pokerroom?

Anyone ever see/hear anything like this? Think I'll actually get the $?

[Edited on September 12, 2005 at 2:58 AM. Reason : s]

[Edited on September 12, 2005 at 2:59 AM. Reason : s]

9/12/2005 2:55:58 AM

FWIW guy that i think is on here playing in the cash game i was at last night......


http://twodimes.net/h/?z=46206
pokenum -h ah kh - 6c 6h
Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ah Kh 809445 47.27 895044 52.27 7815 0.46 0.475
6c 6h 895044 52.27 809445 47.27 7815 0.46 0.525


it sure as hell isnt 60/40

9/12/2005 9:52:22 AM

Ben wins!

I'm just glad I hit to tell ya the truth.

9/12/2005 10:09:32 AM