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5/30/2006 11:51:00 AM

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"If you say that Jewish neocons or the Israeli lobby was the driving force behind the Iraq War, you're a "vile bigotted evil anti-Semite.fucking conspiracy theorist paranoid yakfaced moron""

5/30/2006 11:51:06 AM

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"If you say that Jewish neocons or the Israeli lobby was the driving force behind the Iraq War, you're a "vile bigotted evil anti-Semite.fucking conspiracy theorist paranoid yakfaced moron""

Good ones. I forgot about "CT" and "paranoid." And "yakfaced moron." Oooooh, nice insult.

Yes, if you think the Jewish/Israeli Lobby was the driving force behind the Iraq war (or that they are they main ones pushing for war with Iran, btw), then you're clearly "insane", "paranoid", and a "moron."

It doesn't matter if it's the truth.

5/30/2006 11:55:26 AM

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"It doesn't matter if it's the truth."

wow what a powerful quote...what are you a reject from the anti-tobacco lobby admakers? putting the word "truth" in italics really makes people think its true!

5/30/2006 11:56:43 AM

PROVE THAT IT'S THE TRUTH IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE MAKING THAT ASSERTION.

5/30/2006 11:56:51 AM

Right...the Israelis and the Israeli lobby in the U.S. were not pushing for war against Iraq. And they aren't the main ones pushing for war against Iran right now.

How is it living in denial? Is willfull ignorance really bliss?

5/30/2006 12:00:27 PM

salisburyboy has believed his lies for so long, they have become his truths

remember sammy jankus

5/30/2006 12:01:28 PM

don't you dare compare salisburyboy to leonard

DON'T
YOU
DARE

5/30/2006 3:39:20 PM

lol "zionazi flag"

you guys jacked the raelian symbol

weirdos plagiarizing weirdos

5/30/2006 4:56:42 PM

THANKS FOR THE NEW EVIDENCE

5/30/2006 5:58:52 PM

PROVE THAT IT'S THE TRUTH IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE MAKING THAT ASSERTION.

5/30/2006 6:40:58 PM

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"How is it living in denial? Is willfull ignorance really bliss?"

Is this guy always this funny?

5/31/2006 9:00:13 AM

The people aren't buying the propaganda...

http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/news/opinion/14696679.htm

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"Posted on Tue, May. 30, 2006 'Bin Laden' tapes & 9/11 conspiracies THE LASTEST alleged bin Laden tape raises even more questions regarding the "official version" of 9/11. Why would bin Laden wait until immediately after Moussaoui's sentencing to proclaim his innocence? Why do we never hear anything regarding the actual process by which these tapes are authenticated? Are we to accept the word of the same intelligence authorities who assured us of the presence of WMDs in Iraq? Perhaps the tapes should be analyzed by independent experts before expecting the repeatedly duped American population to accept these findings at face value. I find it particularly odd that "bin Laden" goes out of his way to take full responsibility for 9/11 here when he made such a point of categorically denying his involvement immediately following the attacks. But the emphasis on "bin Laden's" claim of responsibility does start to make a bit more sense when you realize that these alleged tapes have appeared remarkably soon after the Pentagon video that clearly proved it was a missile that hit its wall on 9/11, and not a commercial airliner. But this is all nonsense, of course, after all: Why would the Bush administration intentionally mislead the public about anything so important as matters regarding war and peace? Richard Margolin Hoboken, N.J."

5/31/2006 1:30:50 PM

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"But the emphasis on "bin Laden's" claim of responsibility does start to make a bit more sense when you realize that these alleged tapes have appeared remarkably soon after the Pentagon video that clearly proved it was a missile that hit its wall on 9/11, and not a commercial airliner."

5/31/2006 1:33:13 PM

[Edited on May 31, 2006 at 2:00 PM. Reason : I forgot, 911 was masterminded by the jewish kabal.]

5/31/2006 1:36:01 PM

I know, I know. The tape "clearly proved that a 757 hit the Pentagon." You could CLEARLY see the 757 in the tape. On top of that, it "laid to rest all the 'conspiracy theories' about 9/11."

In other words, those few frames of grainy tape proved that the official conspiracy theory is 100% true, and proved that anyone who questions the official story has no legitimate point(s). The official story is beyond question.

5/31/2006 1:37:59 PM

It didn't clearly prove squat, little buddy.

Once again you have provided a source that makes faulty assertions.

5/31/2006 1:41:33 PM

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"official conspiracy theory"

haha...the only conspiracy thoery is your buddy....i dont care what marriam webster says

5/31/2006 1:50:21 PM

The people aren't buying the salisbury steak...

http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/news/epinion/66696669.htm

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"Posted on Tue, May. 30, 2006 Richard Margolin is called Dick Moron I mean, he can't even spell latest. John McDowell Raleigh, N.C."

5/31/2006 1:56:29 PM

wait wait, let me see if i see this right...

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"http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/news/opinion/14696679.htm"

never knew opinions were now taken as 100% proven fact.

[Edited on May 31, 2006 at 4:51 PM. Reason : .]

5/31/2006 4:50:47 PM

"Opinion" is a term used by the MSM to discredit independent thinkers. Duh.

5/31/2006 10:29:28 PM

the kabal shit really wins this fucking thread

6/1/2006 12:12:07 AM

john mcdowell won this page though

6/1/2006 7:27:43 AM

Two articles of interest:

http://www.rense.com/general72/conect.htm

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"Connecting The Dots -Zionists & 911 By Douglas Herman 7-7-6 Was it only a coincidence that so many rich and powerful Jewish Americans played a pivotal role, or performed a supporting role in the alleged "terrorist attack" on September 11, 2001 and the "War on Terror" that followed? Likewise, under closer scrutiny, why do we find so many Israelis, in the exact same locations as the alleged Islamic plotters and terrorists? Curious coincidence or clever design? For nearly five years we have been permitted a piecemeal glimpse, partial views of 9-11, but without seeing the bigger picture. Is there a Big Picture, you ask? This essay will attempt to connect the dots, identify some of the curious players, individuals and groups who, quite often, seemed to serve a dual loyalty. The peculiar irony was the principle loyalty seemed to be to Israel. [...] The alleged Israeli art students in Hollywood, Florida (They sold cheap Chinese art) lived on the EXACT same street, only blocks from the alleged Islamic hijackers (who flunked flight school). What were the odds of that happening? Was there a shared connection, a common link, a series of dots perhaps (strip clubs)? Or was it simply a massive coincidence that a team of possible Mossad double agents posing as art students, lived blocks away from alleged Islamic fanatics who just happened to train next to US military bases? What about those dancing Israeli furniture movers in Liberty State Park? They filmed the event from atop their white van, while celebrating the successful attack. Later, two other vans were stopped in key access points to Manhattan. The FBI kept these Israelis for weeks before eventually releasing them. In the horrific days following 9-11, other vans were stopped. Other Israelis were arrested. Dogs detected traces of explosives in the vans. If not for the vigilance of local law enforcement officers in several states (unlike the FBI), how many other targets in America would have been destroyed? [...] If indeed hijackers somehow got past airport security cameras and avoided normal flight check in procedures, wouldn't the suspicion fall on the Israeli-owned security company at Logan airport in Boston? [...] Which leaves us only THREE final questions: Who leased the building only months before? Who hired security at Logan and the WTC? Who covered up the subsequent crime in the US media, not only in New York City but the nation?"

http://www.rense.com/general72/moles.htm

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"The Israeli Moles Who Controlled US Defense Computers On 911 By Christopher Bollyn 7-7-6 [...] As RMN readers know there is the very bizarre and suspicious Israeli link to the security of U.S. military computers that goes back to the early 1990s. (Remember the reports of Ptech and MITRE engaged in the basement of the FAA before 9/11?) One must also keep in mind that 9/11 was primarily a computer crime, just like the stealing of our elections. Long before 9/11, a germ was planted in the U.S. defense computer system which allowed for a "super-user" to control the network and create the miscommunications that prevented the U.S. military from defending New York and Washington on that terrible day. As I have written earlier, the members of the YORAN family from Israel are among the key suspects, along with Michael Chertoff and others. I consider the YORANS to be high-ranking Israeli moles who infiltrated the most sensitive computer networks in the U.S. government and military - Zionest agents who facilitated the terror attacks of 9/11."

7/8/2006 11:49:46 AM

JUST FUCKING KILL YOURSELF NOW

7/8/2006 11:53:49 AM

keep dreamin

7/8/2006 12:08:31 PM

wait, I thought the pentagon was hit by a cruise missile and the WTC was a military job, too. Why would their be any need to control the US military's computer network and mess up military "protection" if the US military, itself, was doing the attack?

something smells cheesey here...

7/8/2006 12:34:32 PM

More info on these and related subjects:

http://www.rense.com/general72/nss.htm

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"Israelis Hold Keys To NSA, US Govt Computers By Christopher Bollyn American Free Press 7-4-6 The most critical computer and communication networks used by the U.S. government and military are secured by encryption software written by an Israeli "code breaker" tied to an Israeli state-run scientific institution. The National Security Agency (NSA), the U.S. intelligence agency with the mandate to protect government and military computer networks and provide secure communications for all branches of the U.S. government uses security software written by an Israeli code breaker whose home office is located at the Weizmann Institute in Israel. A Bedford, Massachusetts-based company called RSA Security, Inc. issued a press release on March 28, 2006, which revealed that the NSA would be using its security software: "U.S. Department of Defense Agency Selects RSA Security Encryption Software" was the headline of the company's press release which announced that the National Security Agency had selected its encryption software to be used in the agency's "classified communications project.""

All 9/11 Airports Serviced by One Israeli Owned Company
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ICTS.html

7/8/2006 12:40:12 PM

thank god for this firefox plugin.

i have no idea what you said, but i'm sure you're still a fucking moron.

7/8/2006 12:44:58 PM

University of Wisconsin professor under intense media/establishment attack for not believing the official conspiracy theory on 9/11, and believing that the U.S. Government was involved:

http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/news/politics/14981382.htm

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"UW instructor under fire basks in publicity for 9/11 view RYAN J. FOLEY Associated Press MADISON, Wis. - A University of Wisconsin instructor under fire for his view that the U.S. government orchestrated the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks said Thursday he was confident he would keep his job. Kevin Barrett also told The Associated Press he was elated the controversy has given his cause long-sought publicity. "If these idiots had just kept their mouths shut, nobody would have ever heard of me," Barrett said of his critics. "I've been trying to get publicity for years." Barrett, active in a group called Scholars for 9/11 Truth, is among a small group that believes the attacks were carried out by U.S. government officials, not al-Qaida terrorists. He came under fire after he spoke on a Wisconsin talk show last week and acknowledged he presented the theory to his students in the past. After the appearance, UW-Madison Provost Patrick Farrell launched a review into Barrett's past performance and whether the content of the course on Islam he is scheduled to teach this fall is appropriate. The findings are expected to be released Friday. Republican gubernatorial candidate Mark Green demanded on Thursday that Barrett be fired for his views before he speaks Sunday at a forum on social justice at UW-Milwaukee. "His views on the worst terrorist attack on American soil are casting a negative shadow nationally on the university system and our entire state," Green wrote in a letter to UW-Madison Chancellor John Wiley. He said Barrett should be fired before his talk on Sunday "gives any more unwanted publicity to the university.""

Fire him for his views?

Hmmmmm...kind of like how the troll brigade wants to run me off TWW for my views.

7/8/2006 12:56:28 PM

On the ridiculous use of the "conspiracy theory" smear label by defenders of the official story...

http://www.herald-mail.com/?module=displaystory&story_id=141571&format=html

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"Saturday July 1, 2006 Don't call me crazy just for seeking the truth about what really happened on Sept. 11, 2001 by L. Simons To the editor: I'm getting sick and tired of hearing the phrase "conspiracy theorist" used to describe people who seek the truth about Sept. 11, 2001. It is an obvious attempt to make those who believe in government complicity in the attacks appear to be deranged lunatics. People know the term "conspiracy" has nutty connotations. Therefore, it is used on purpose because it is the goal of the opposition to label us "crazy" before a debate even begins, when they know they will lose the war on facts. When Charlie Sheen went public about his belief in a cover-up, people immediately attacked his character and brought up his past behavior rather than address his claims. Attacking one's character is the obvious sign that one cannot engage in an intelligent debate of the facts. When our character is attacked, no credence is given to our views. This is the tactic politicians use. They attack each other's character and attempt to discredit when they have been beaten by facts. My life has been threatened. I've been yelled at and ridiculed for my views, yet I have not returned this behavior. Where do threats and anger come from? If you possess the truth, why the anger? What astonishes me is that they call us "conspiracy theorists" as if we believe in this far-fetched, impossible theory we've concocted from our own imaginations. The word "conspiracy" means "two or more persons in agreement to do an unlawful or wrongful act." The official account of the attacks is that 19 terrorists with boxcutters hijacked four planes and crashed them into targets. Isn't this a conspiracy theory, too? It only takes two for a conspiracy, and 19 conspired to commit an unlawful act on 9/11, but only we are called conspiracy theorists. Why? Because people know the word "conspiracy" is associated with those who have completely lost their minds and who think there is always an alternative explanation to an official story. Of what to believe about 9/11, the choice is not between a wacky conspiracy theory and an official account, but between two conspiracy theories. The question is: Which one is more plausible? I tend to side with the one that has more consistency and fewer holes. Since there are three different versions of the official account (from the military, NORAD and the 9/11 Commission) and since the 9/11 Commission did everything in its power to distort the truth and exclude hard evidence and questions, my choice is government complicity. L. Simons Hagerstown"

7/8/2006 1:09:15 PM

actually, the "troll brigade" wants to run you off for your rampant stupidity and link bombing...

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"wait, I thought the pentagon was hit by a cruise missile and the WTC was a military job, too. Why would their be any need to control the US military's computer network and mess up military "protection" if the US military, itself, was doing the attack?"

7/8/2006 2:17:09 PM

UW instructor under fire basks in publicity for 9/11 view

Of course you leave out the part about university officials defending his right to discuss his ideas:

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"The president of the UW System Board of Regents, David Walsh, called Barrett's views "stupid and irrational" but slammed Green and other politicians for "threatening to fire people because of their ideas." "No one is saying that Mr. Barrett is right but he certainly has a right to present it as a possibility so long that he provides a balanced presentation," said Walsh, who was appointed by Democratic Gov. Jim Doyle. "Students learn by challenging and discussing these ideas. That's what our mission is about.""

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"Because people know the word "conspiracy" is associated with those who have completely lost their minds and who think there is always an alternative explanation to an official story."

Can that be substantiated? How do you know that people are judging you because of a label and not because of the merits or shortcomings of your ideas? Thats like me bitching that people dislike me because of my sex offender label, but not because of the fact that I enjoy molesting children.

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"The question is: Which one is more plausible? I tend to side with the one that has more consistency and fewer holes."

For some reason you can't see the holes in your version of events. Please take a step back and look at both sides with an open mind instead of clinging desperately to the teachings of websites that agree with what you want to believe.

7/8/2006 4:36:05 PM

VIDEO--9/11 WTC squibs
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/100706squibs.htm

7/11/2006 8:00:10 AM

I'm not going to spend too much time with this one but...

1) When you have a series of floors collapsing one on top of the other the air that was in the building has got to go somewhere. In this case it was forced out of the windows.
2) I haven't looked at a schematic of the WTC and I'm not in the business of building demolition but something tells me that exterior windows probably aren't the correct place to put squibs to pull off a controlled demolition.

7/11/2006 8:32:13 AM

why, tilley?

why?

7/11/2006 10:23:55 AM

Who knows. I must have had a lapse of reason.

7/11/2006 11:44:57 AM

Good Lord, is this a thread or a repository for raving moonbat conspiracy theorists with too much time on their hands? I'm guessing the latter.

7/11/2006 11:54:48 AM

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"raving moonbat conspiracy theorists "

There was a conspiracy (*GASP*) to commit the 9/11 attacks either way you look at it. It's just a matter of who was involved in the conspiracy.

Was 9/11 really pulled off by 19 Arabs who couldn't fly a Cesna (much less airliners) and an evil genius in a cave as the government says? Did bin Laden and his supposed Arab followers plant the explosives in WTC Building 7?

The real wacko "conspiracy theory" is the government and MSM's ridiculous story.

7/11/2006 12:21:09 PM

Yeah, a huge governemnt conspiracy and some muslim extremists are equally plauisble scenarios.


You are an idiot.

7/11/2006 12:24:43 PM

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"There was a conspiracy (*GASP*) to commit the 9/11 attacks either way you look at it. It's just a matter of who was involved in the conspiracy."

Why don't you provide evidence instead of repeating that same tired statement and posting articles about discrimination against conspiracy theoriests?

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"Was 9/11 really pulled off by 19 Arabs who couldn't fly a Cesna (much less airliners) and an evil genius in a cave as the government says? Did bin Laden and his supposed Arab followers plant the explosives in WTC Building 7?"

And then you state two notions as facts without providing any evidence for either.

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"The real wacko "conspiracy theory" is the government and MSM's ridiculous story."

And now you try to slander anyone who believes that muslim terrorists carried out 9/11 as "wacko conspiracy theorists" who buy into a "ridiculous story". Does your glaring hypocrisy not bother you?

7/11/2006 12:28:15 PM

You are not factoring the inability of most people to keep a secret, salisburyboy. You really think something SO big could be kept quiet by the many that would have to be involved?

You are simply too credulous.

7/11/2006 12:34:20 PM

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"You are not factoring the inability of most people to keep a secret, salisburyboy. You really think something SO big could be kept quiet by the many that would have to be involved?"

No. The truth cannot be hidden, and always eventually comes out.

That's why we now know the truth...ie, that the official story is a big lie. For instance, we now know that WTC Building 7 and the twin towers were all brought down with explosives.

And that's why many prominent people formerly in the government have spoken out exposing the lie that is the official story...including Sibel Edmonds (former FBI translator), Morgan Reynolds (former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term), and others. The main reason you do not hear from many "whistle blowers" is because the MSM censors them and does not give them the opportunity to be heard.

7/11/2006 12:42:30 PM

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"For instance, we now know that WTC Building 7 and the twin towers were all brought down with explosives. "

Do you have any evidence other than blurry pictures?

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"And that's why many prominent people formerly in the government have spoken out exposing the lie that is the official story...including Sibel Edmonds (former FBI translator), Morgan Reynolds (former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term), and others."

You can't expose a lie by stating opinion. None of those people had any involvement in 9/11.

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"The main reason you do not hear from many "whistle blowers" is because the MSM censors them and does not give them the opportunity to be heard."

Thats just silly. The reason that you don't hear about any invisible dragons that cure cancer is because the MSM censors them. Prove that I'm wrong.

7/11/2006 12:50:15 PM

mr joshua...master of the repeated denial tactic

Are you still looking for the proof that WTC 7 was brought down in a controlled demolition, mr joshua?

7/11/2006 12:58:41 PM

Slander!

The fact is that brianj320 used photographic evidence to refute your claims regarding WTC 7. You have never addressed that.

7/11/2006 1:02:03 PM

Damn, Grasshopper! You sound like you've been studying at the Shaolin Temple, dude.

Witness the following: "No. The truth cannot be hidden, and always eventually comes out" (salisburyboy). Jesus! Seriously, what're you on, man?

7/11/2006 1:03:39 PM

Hey salisburyboy! What about the bombing in India today? Was that a government inside job?

Whenever muslim terrorists attack western interests you blame it on the zionists, what about this one?

7/11/2006 2:32:55 PM

I keep waiting for him to say that there was no suicidal doctor in N Y....it was in fact a jewish false flag operation designed to make America hate doctors...

7/11/2006 2:41:42 PM

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"wait, I thought the pentagon was hit by a cruise missile and the WTC was a military job, too. Why would their be any need to control the US military's computer network and mess up military "protection" if the US military, itself, was doing the attack?"

7/11/2006 6:07:25 PM