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BigEgo
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^^ignorant

12/4/2008 7:56:45 PM

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Jrb do you know something or are you just talking out of your ass like 99% of the people on these threads?

And BigEgo although not likely, there is a shot we could miss out on all 3 of these guys. These are big time talents with lots of people in there ear. There is no telling what is going on behind the scenes and what could happen. We are only the favorite to get one of these guys, and even with Wall it is anything but a done deal.

[Edited on December 4, 2008 at 8:03 PM. Reason : ]

12/4/2008 8:01:36 PM

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I hope we land one - at least for Sid's sake. The media and our impatient fanbase will run him out of town if we don't get one of these guys while UNC has another record breaking class

12/4/2008 8:26:20 PM

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^ That would be really stupid seeing as we already have a really impressive class coming in without those guys. Expecting a coach to out recruit UNC when we finished last in the ACC is unrealistic, and giving the circumstances our class is already way ahead of expectations. I am not saying we won't land anyone, I'm just saying don't get your hopes up. There about 4 other schools that think they are going to land any one of these guys too. Unfortunately only one of those schools will actually be right for each kid so lets just see what happens.

12/4/2008 8:54:35 PM

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^yeah, I mean we already have a top ten class iirc, so it not like Sid is bringing in a dud class thats needs a gem like favors or wall...it would be nice, but Sid's future doesn't entirely depend on bringin in Favors and or wall or cousins

12/4/2008 10:41:52 PM

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"but Sid's future doesn't entirely depend on bringin in Favors and or wall or cousins"


I disagree.

12/4/2008 10:43:50 PM

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mehhh, I mean it could potentially be very beneficial to our program, but with the guys we have coming in, we're not goin to be that bad,; or maybe so, but Sidney's future at NC State depends his ability to coach imo. other teams have done alot better with alot less talent.

12/4/2008 10:48:57 PM

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i'm pretty sure we're going to get at least one, maybe two.

12/4/2008 10:50:02 PM

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that would be awesome

12/4/2008 10:56:46 PM

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You people act like we don't already have a great class locked up for 2009.


We don't even need john wall. We actually NEED favors or cousins for another big, but it ain't the end of the world.

Personally, I'd like to see a situation where we bring in the guys for next year, have a good season, see them stick around for another year, and throw the 2010 guys in with them and see what happens. If we fucking run off Lowe before that happens, especially over not landing the top players in the country for gods sake, I'm going to fucking murder our fanbase.

[Edited on December 4, 2008 at 11:11 PM. Reason : dont get me wrong here, landing one of those 3 would be ridiculously awesome]

12/4/2008 11:10:48 PM

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YOU PEOPLE

12/4/2008 11:20:28 PM

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^^true. we need to remind ourselves its not the end of the world if we don't get these guys. we have a great class already and with leslie and harrow coming in 2010, the future is already looking bright (if sidney can coach them...a pretty big if i know)

[Edited on December 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM. Reason : ]

12/4/2008 11:22:38 PM

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We don't need you stupid wet blankets to tell us the obvious. The fact of the matter is that landing wall and favors would be game-changing, and people are justifiably excited about it. (Game-changing in that you could talk final four or national championship without being embarrassed).


How about you people just STFU and let people manage their own expectations.

[Edited on December 4, 2008 at 11:28 PM. Reason : .]

12/4/2008 11:25:12 PM

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With our tradition, fanbase, and facilities, we have every right to demand that we at least be in the national championship conversation.

12/4/2008 11:40:10 PM

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Can you really get final 4 good just off one class?

Somehow I dont think so.

12/4/2008 11:46:35 PM

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WET

BLANKETS?"

12/4/2008 11:46:45 PM

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I actually like how Sid is running his offense this year. Well, at least for the past two games, but you can tell things have changed. He just needs players that will run the type of offense he wants to run.

Players that can: Smith, McCauley, CJ (probably), Javi, Fells
Players that can't: Horner, Costner, Ferg, Harris
Undetermined: Degand and Thomas (they're both basically crippled), and Mays

More than half the team doesn't fit the mold of Sid's game. Of course, a really good coach can use his current players' talents to produce a successful team, but he's new to the college coaching world. That said, if Coach Harris and Lowe can get these high caliber athletes that like to play pro-style ball, we might have some good years ahead of us. Whether or not we get the players needed to play Sid's game, a couple of more years at the bottom of the ACC and he'll be packing his bags.

12/4/2008 11:50:55 PM

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"Can you really get final 4 good just off one class?

Somehow I dont think so."


1993 Michigan did.....2005 UNC was pretty much Felton, May, McCants all the same class that put them over the top. They were all 3 top 10 or so recruits.

12/5/2008 1:32:59 AM

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"^yeah, I mean we already have a top ten class iirc"


ESPN had us in the top 10 back in august, but i think a more reputable organization had us around 16 or 17 recently. still respectable, and if we were to land wall and favors we might skip ahead of UNC

12/5/2008 2:08:47 AM

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"Can you really get final 4 good just off one class?

Somehow I dont think so."

One class? Hell, you can do it with one recruit, see Carmelo Anthony.

12/5/2008 2:19:59 AM

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bahahaha you are an idiot if you think Simon Harris cant run the offense Sid wants him to run.

he is one of the most athletic kids on the team.

this aph guy is an idiot...and Javi? Javi cant run a transition break...he has shown that many many times...hes a slow it down start it up kind of guy...not to mention Ferg is one of the better transition spot up shooters on the team.

I hope you are trolling.

12/5/2008 8:34:16 AM

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One class can really reshape a program.

I think the Oden class really helped pull tOSU to the lime-light in basketball and they have been landing top-flight recruits since then.

So potentially we get a powerful class and have a good season and it could do wonders for the program, especially if they see these 1-and-done guys going and getting high draft spots. Such as JJ coming here, having a solid season on a bad team, and still going pretty high in the draft.

12/5/2008 9:31:32 AM

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ESPN had us in the top 10 back in august, but i think a more reputable organization had us around 16 or 17 recently. still respectable, and if we were to land wall and favors we might skip ahead of UNC
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Not more reputable sources....we just had our class locked up before the big names committed somewhere. There are really only a handful of guys uncommitted right now that the first signing day is over.


We will end up in the top 5 with any of cousins, favors, or wall though.

12/5/2008 1:42:28 PM

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Top 5 with anyone of those guys. No. 1 with Wall and Favors/Cousins. That would really irritate the Heels if we unseated their "No. 1 All-World Best Class Ever".

12/5/2008 2:12:25 PM

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"i'm pretty sure praying to God that we're going to get at least one, maybe two."


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"We don't even need john wall. We actually NEED favors or cousins for another big"


Bingo. McCauley is a senior, Costner is a junior and prefers the perimeter, Tracy Smith is a solid power forward but not a dominating big man, and nobody else comes close to being a low-post threat.

That is what makes landing Cousins/Favors a priority. That said... landing Wall would be awesome any way look at it

12/5/2008 3:18:22 PM

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^i'm not a christian and don't pray to god.

12/5/2008 3:28:07 PM

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"Can you really get final 4 good just off one class?

Somehow I dont think so."

as has been stated, you are dead wrong.

and sid's career right now is in the hands of lorenzo brown and how he performs. not wall or favors or cousins.

12/5/2008 3:45:09 PM

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is it possible to land all 3? making a 6-man class?

# of scholarships is already an issue, so i dont think a 6th one is possible unless we force someone to give theirs up. I understand we have 4 available, with the possibility of a few more with players leaving early or transfering.

how great would this roster look:
Sr Horner
Sr Ferguson
Sr Degand
Jr Smith
Jr Gonzalez
So Williams
So Mays
Fr Brown
Fr Howell
Fr Wood
Fr Wall
Fr Cousins
Fr Favors



[Edited on December 5, 2008 at 8:38 PM. Reason : ]

12/5/2008 8:26:51 PM

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^no. at best we can do 2/3

12/5/2008 8:42:55 PM

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ehhhhhhhhhhh wrong.

we could always find room for this possible class.

12/5/2008 8:46:18 PM

BigEgo
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no way we get both favors/cousins

12/5/2008 8:50:07 PM

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Kick Horner off the team

[Edited on December 5, 2008 at 9:07 PM. Reason : with a little note that says "lol you got pump faked"]

12/5/2008 9:07:35 PM

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find the smartest guy on the team and give him an academic scholarship



or kick horner off the team

12/5/2008 9:21:26 PM

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it'd be pointless. who'd take his scholly?

12/5/2008 9:28:45 PM

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John Wall

12/5/2008 9:34:13 PM

BigEgo
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^BC is going to leave early more than likely, and that would make 2 open spots. if horner also left, who would take his spot?

12/5/2008 9:43:26 PM

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A better basketball player such as a Stanley Hudson.



Anyway, it doesn't fucking matter. You idiots are presuming a lot about the scholarship situation and who will leave/go. The staff will figure out any issues with scholarships if they exist.

12/5/2008 10:10:32 PM

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of all the things to worry about, whether or not we'll have the scholarships is not one of them.

12/6/2008 2:27:52 AM

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Sid's job isn't riding on getting one of the "big three." With Fowler still there Sid will get until at least the 2010-2011 season, when Harrow and Leslie come in. If after that season we haven't made the dance, then Sid will have some explaining to do.

12/6/2008 11:14:36 AM

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ryan harrow is a stud '10 PG

12/6/2008 11:16:34 AM

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two years is a looooooong time

12/6/2008 3:55:49 PM

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WE JUST LOST ON THE ROAD TO A RANKED TEAM

THE SEASON OVER

12/6/2008 4:00:42 PM

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http://tinyurl.com/59hs3p

Ryan Harrow with 43 points last night.

12/7/2008 4:21:36 PM

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Can't wait to see Harrow in a wolfpack uniform. To bad we have to wait till 2010.

12/7/2008 4:55:43 PM

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^^stephen curryesque

[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 4:56 PM. Reason : can't wait]

12/7/2008 4:56:32 PM

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12/7/2008 5:00:03 PM

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bttt

12/8/2008 9:05:02 AM

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So Harrow's team finished the game with 3 players, but still won, and he dropped 43. Impressive.

12/8/2008 9:19:20 AM

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"a game that featured 18 technical foul shots by Lenoir City and saw 10 Walton players ejected. With another fouling out, Walton finished the game with just three players"


wat

good to see that Harrow wasn't one of those that were ejected...

12/8/2008 9:34:09 AM

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Harrow scored 34 and had 10 assists in the game before that one....and the writeup said he had too many steals to count.

12/8/2008 11:01:49 AM

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