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Based on having met and personally knowing people like that, he legitimately feels like he was entitled to that money, and he earned in, but likely thinks he's the exception and everyone else doesn't really deserve it.

Either that, or he did exploit the system when he could, and thinks other people exploited it like him to, and it's his place to bust them.

2/25/2013 1:56:03 PM

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I believe the phrase you are searching for is "total douchebag."

2/25/2013 5:19:50 PM

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http://www.advocate.com/politics/prop-8/2013/02/26/75-prominent-republicans-say-marriage-constitutional-right

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"75 Prominent Republicans Say Marriage Is Constitutional Right

A group of 75 Republicans have signed a court brief telling the U.S. Supreme Court that marriage is a constitutional right for same-sex couples in America."


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/us/politics/prominent-republicans-sign-brief-in-support-of-gay-marriage.html?pagewanted=all&_r=3&

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"WASHINGTON — Dozens of prominent Republicans — including top advisers to former President George W. Bush, four former governors and two members of Congress — have signed a legal brief arguing that gay people have a constitutional right to marry"


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"Polls show that public attitudes have shifted drastically on same-sex marriage over the past decade. A majority of Americans now favor same-sex marriage, up from roughly one third in 2003."


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"Several recent polls show that about 70 percent of voters under 30 back same-sex marriage."

2/26/2013 12:44:11 PM

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Writing is on the wall and now begins the sprint to get on the right side of history for a lot of politicians... especially those who are concerned about legacy and have no constituency to answer to (W).

2/26/2013 1:22:46 PM

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I think some of it follows from the corporate wing of the Republican party, not just the influence of younger folks aging into influence in the party.

http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2013/02/26/corporate-america-gay-marriage/

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"Dozens of big U.S. companies to back gay marriage

Scores of corporations will file a Supreme Court brief favoring gay marriage later this week. Signatories will include Apple, Facebook, Intel, and Morgan Stanley."


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"Others who have already committed to sign include AIG, Becton Dickinson, Cisco, Cummins, Kimpton, Levi Strauss, McGraw Hill, NCR, Nike, Office Depot, Oracle, Panasonic, Qualcomm, and Xerox."


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"Fleshing out that contention, the companies argue: "By singling out a group for less favorable treatment, Proposition 8 impedes businesses from achieving the market's ideal of efficient operations—particularly in recruiting, hiring, and retaining talented people who are in the best position to operate at their highest capacity. Amici are competing domestically and internationally with companies inside and outside the United States in places where all couples, regardless of whether they are of the same sex, are afforded equal access to marriage."

Specifically, it suggests that when "potential recruits or employees are members of a same-sex couple," they "may forgo the opportunity to work in California, and prefer other states (like Iowa, New York and Massachusetts) or other nations (like Spain, Sweden, Denmark, the Netherlands, Portugal, or Belgium) where they can be married and obtain equal treatment and respect under the law.""


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"Finally, leaving no stone unturned, the draft brief argues that "increased wedding celebrations can mean additional revenue for many businesses—such as businesses involved directly in wedding celebrations, businesses that produce goods often given as gifts to newlyweds, and businesses that benefit from increased tourism from guests who travel to the wedding.""


[Edited on February 27, 2013 at 12:21 AM. Reason : .]

2/27/2013 12:19:43 AM

IMStoned420
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Karl rove definitely gave the order to soften their stance on gay marriage. It's gonna be awesome watching tea partiers totally screw him over.

[Edited on February 27, 2013 at 1:39 AM. Reason : ]

2/27/2013 1:39:00 AM

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I fully support Has-been republicans and some companies coming out in favor of legalizing gay marriage.

But their opinion should have NO affect on the way the court rules! Do your job and interpret the constitution/common law, its not a popularity contest. If these briefs have any sway on the court's opinion, then that just shows how shitty it has gotten. I guess I'm just really skeptical of the court lately, they really need to get this one right since they have been striking out so much lately.

2/27/2013 8:43:57 AM

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If you are going to call out GOP members who suddenly change their stance on gay marriage, you need to do the same to Democrats. Plenty of Democrats stayed away from the topic or were on the other side of it until it was politically convenient to change, that's just the nature of politics. You can't really call them out, its good that they are changing their positions.

2/27/2013 9:02:24 AM

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If something is unconstitutional, but 95% of Americans want it to be legal, what do you think the Supreme Court does? They play politics just like everybody else, just a bit more abstractly.

[Edited on February 27, 2013 at 9:05 AM. Reason : ?]

2/27/2013 9:04:47 AM

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"but..."?

banning is unconstitutional AND people want it legal

[Edited on February 27, 2013 at 9:09 AM. Reason : .]

2/27/2013 9:08:49 AM

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I realize the SC dabbles in politics, and this overall is just the usual posturing.

I guess I've just been reading content that somehow thinks gay marriage is now a slam dunk because some has-been republicans and a couple greasy companies have decided to come out and support it?

umm no, its the damn equal protection clause of the 14th amendment. To me its so cut and dry.

2/27/2013 9:23:19 AM

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I agree that it should be legal. I'm just throwing out a hypothetical to prove my point. People like to believe that the Supreme Court only decides issues based on constitutionality. You can argue that they should operate like this but, in reality, they take lots of other things into account.

Like ^ said, it's not a slam dunk.

2/27/2013 9:33:53 AM

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WE FINALLY GOT A JOBS BILL!!!

no, wait, its just another bible in schools bill

http://www.wral.com/bill-would-create-bible-study-elective-for-high-schools/12155972/

2/27/2013 9:37:31 AM

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seriously, fuck these people

2/27/2013 9:46:14 AM

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Quote :
"SECTION 1. G.S. 115C-81 is amended by adding a new subsection to read:
"(g4) Bible Study Elective. – Local boards of education may offer to students in grades nine through 12 elective courses for credit on the Hebrew scriptures (Old Testament), the New Testament, or a combination of the two subject matters. A student shall not be required to use a specific translation as the sole text of the Hebrew scriptures or New Testament and may use as the basic textbook a different translation of the Hebrew scriptures or New Testament approved by the local board of education or the principal of the student's school. A course offered by a local board of education in accordance with this subsection shall (i) follow federal and State law in maintaining religious neutrality and accommodating the diverse religious views, traditions, and perspectives of the students of the local school administrative unit and (ii) not endorse, favor or promote, or disfavor or show hostility toward any particular religion, nonreligious faith, or religious perspective. Courses may include the following instruction:
(1) Knowledge of biblical content, characters, poetry, and narratives that are prerequisites to understanding contemporary society and culture, including literature, art, music, mores, oratories, and public policies.
(2) Familiarity with the contents, history, style, structure, and societal influence of the Hebrew scriptures or the New Testament."
SECTION 2. This act is effective when it becomes law and applies beginning with the 2013-2014 school year."

for reference

2/27/2013 9:46:23 AM

TerdFerguson
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For some reason I think one of the high schools I went to already had this lol

2/27/2013 9:56:57 AM

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Now watch after this passes and gets put in the schools, they start doing better for some other reason (more funding or improved preschool education). I guarantee there will be arguing that it was solely because of this bill(ignoring that it is ruled unconstitutional and taken out).

Or it could go the opposite self affirming way of schools get worse after it is ruled unconstitutional and taken out. "Taking god out of schools"... Even though this is not god because it has a paragraph that says it is not.

2/27/2013 10:15:27 AM

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^^ It's basically one of the units from my high school's honors or AP World History classes turned into a full class. They call it a Bible study, but the description is more of a religion study. I think this is a good class, but I don't think it will be effective at the high school level. Religion drives so many things in society, we should want more people to understand it. I think the class would be a lot stronger though if it included other world religions, but a lot of schools already have that class.

2/27/2013 10:51:38 AM

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2/28/2013 1:55:01 PM

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http://seattlebikeblog.com/2013/03/02/state-lawmaker-says-bicycling-is-not-good-for-the-environment-should-be-taxed/

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"Representative Ed Orcutt (R – Kalama) does not think bicycling is environmentally friendly because the activity causes cyclists to have “an increased heart rate and respiration.”

This is according to comments he made in an email to a constituent who questioned the wisdom of a new bike tax the legislature is considering as part of a large transportation package.

We spoke with Rep. Orcutt to confirm the email’s authenticity and to get further clarification.

“You would be giving off more CO2 if you are riding a bike than driving in a car,” he said. However, he said he had not “done any analysis” of the difference in CO2 from a person on a bike compared to the engine of a car (others have).

“You can’t just say that there’s no pollution as a result of riding a bicycle.”

He said the email, which he had not reviewed since he is away from from his computer for the day, must have come from a constituent who disagrees with him (UPDATE: Cascade has posted the full exchange, which was with Dale Carlson, owner of BikeTech in Tacoma).

“Somebody doesn’t like me, and that’s fine,” he said.

He also stands by his opinion that people who bike do not pay for roads when they ride.

“When you are riding your bicycle, tell me what taxes are being generated by the act of riding your bicycle,” he said. “Sales tax does not go into roads.”

That people who bike don’t pay for roads is demonstrably untrue. Most roads people bike on are paid for by counties and municipalities. In Seattle, gas taxes pay just four percent of the SDOT budget (as of 2009). Most of the rest comes from sources everybody pays, no matter how they get around. On a state level, gas taxes only pay for one quarter of the WSDOT budget.

As for the transportation package, he said the amount of money that would end up going to bike lanes is higher than the amount raised by the proposed bike tax.

“You’re asking for a whole lot more back than what you’re going to put in,” he said (we responded to this point here)."


what...

3/2/2013 11:38:42 PM

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Conservatives turning on McCain and Graham after criticizing Paul

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"ust hours after Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) slammed Sen. Rand Paul on the Senate floor, conservatives are turning on the Republican Party's "old bulls."

In a floor speech this morning, McCain accused Paul of using the filibuster to "fire up impressionable libertarian kids." Graham claimed Paul was ignoring national security threats, using a ludicrous chart to illustrate his point,

"It was embarrassing," a senior Republican Senate aide told Business Insider. "It definitely looked like two guys whose time has passed. They are behind history, and they are the only people in the room who don't know it yet.""


http://www.businessinsider.com/mccain-and-graham-rand-paul-drones-obama-2013-3

I don't expect salvation from the GOP, but the old men need to either catch up or get out.

[Edited on March 8, 2013 at 12:00 PM. Reason : ]

3/8/2013 12:00:43 PM

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http://www.salon.com/2013/03/07/james_okeefe_to_pay_100k_over_acorn_sting/
James O’Keefe to pay $100K over ACORN sting
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"“There comes a time when the cost to defend yourself against meritless accusations becomes so burdensome financially and personally, it is simply too great. The settlement admits no liability and there is no benefit from extending this ridiculous lawsuit,” he said.

He also said he would have more details in a forthcoming book."

LOL

Looks like he's a future Rush Limbaugh... manipulating the fanaticism of Conservatives to make money.

[Edited on March 8, 2013 at 12:15 PM. Reason : ]

3/8/2013 12:15:25 PM

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""It was embarrassing," a senior Republican Senate aide told Business Insider. "It definitely looked like two guys whose time has passed. They are behind history, and they are the only people in the room who don't know it yet.""


I feel like this describes most of the GOP establishment, not to mention the bulk of their supporters.

The good news is that several party leaders have shifted their stance on immigration, gay marriage, cuts to defense spending and Obamacare just in the past 3 months.

[Edited on March 8, 2013 at 12:37 PM. Reason : r]

3/8/2013 12:37:37 PM

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" immigration, gay marriage, cuts to defense spending and Obamacare"


One of these is not like the other.

God damn. Check out McCain getting grilled on Shepard Smith's show: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/shep-smith-grills-mccain-over-his-rand-paul-criticism-offends-him-by-calling-him-interventionist/#disqus_thread

The neoconservative old guard can't stop what's coming. I think Rand Paul is positioning himself to challenge the Republican power structure in 2016. It seems like we could be seeing a shift in the party. Rand Paul is far more strategic than his father; he picks and chooses which battles to fight, rather than fighting at every single opportunity on ideological grounds.

[Edited on March 8, 2013 at 7:15 PM. Reason : ]

3/8/2013 6:58:58 PM

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You're in for a big letdown, sorry.

3/11/2013 9:15:09 AM

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So the GOP budget is counting on the repeal of ACA (which is not going to happen). Way to spin your wheels guys.

3/11/2013 9:33:11 AM

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I AM A PRINCIPLED ANARCHIST

but ill totally vote for a Republican that wants to ban abortion, sure, whatever.



Btw, so much for Rove keeping out the crazies in favor of his chosen candidate. It's already failed in Iowa. Get ready for http://steveking2014.com

3/14/2013 4:41:12 PM

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"I fully support Has-been republicans and some companies coming out in favor of legalizing gay marriage."

Really? Gay people who claim to be married are being thrown in jail? Man, I didn't know that!




Also, are they really still butthurt about Chris Christie not shanking Obama last year during the hurricane? Could you people look any more foolish?

3/14/2013 6:55:02 PM

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0 people said that, 0 people

3/14/2013 7:06:31 PM

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no, instead they are complaining that he was too nice to Obama. I'm not entirely sure what they expected him to do

3/14/2013 7:09:31 PM

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i'm talking about gay people in jail, you are arguing with some person in your head

3/14/2013 7:11:19 PM

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""It is good politics to oppose the black guy in the White House right now, especially for the Republican Party," said Republican South Carolina House Member Kris Crawford in an interview about how he supported a Medicaid expansion despite his party affiliation. Now just guess what he did on Tuesday. Crawford voted on party lines and shot down a measure which would have granted a three-year expansion of Medicaid for the uninsured — an amendment which would have extended taxpayer-funded health insurance to 500,000 more people. (And you thought the governors had been having trouble on this issue.) Of course, now Crawford is going to have to delicately explain why he said what he said, did what he did, and not try to sound like he's pandering to racists and politics.

The dilemma facing Crawford, who was convicted of tax evasion in November, stems from a January 29 interview with the Charleston Regional Business Journal. The piece was a rather unexciting story on how there might be a few Republicans, like Crawford, who would support a measure for Medicaid expansion in the state. These are two key sentences from that interview:

Rep. Kris Crawford, a Republican from Florence[, SC] and also an emergency room doctor, supports the expansion but expects the Republican caucus to vote as a block against the Medicaid expansion.

“The politics are going to overwhelm the policy. It is good politics to oppose the black guy in the White House right now, especially for the Republican Party,” Crawford said.


So, to be clear, Crawford was for this measure a little over a month ago, but said there would be Republicans who would vote against what appears to be an Obama/Democrat initiative just because of the "good" optics of voting against President Obama... because of his race. Now, Crawford looks like one of those Republicans he spoke about, and hasn't released a statement (yet) explaining his vote. Although shutting up might be the best idea right now."


http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/03/opposing-black-guy-white-house-kris-crawford/63053/

3/14/2013 9:58:34 PM

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Didn't McCrory just block a medicaid expansion too? I'd bet their motivations are the same...

but why do they want to blindly oppose "the black guy", it's not like he can get reelected??

bizarro world we live in...

3/14/2013 10:02:53 PM

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Rob Portman has a gay son? I guess we know why he wasn't the VP candidate.

3/15/2013 6:50:21 AM

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Didn't stop Cheney

3/15/2013 9:41:28 AM

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aaronburro in the news:

CPAC Participant Defends Slavery At Minority Outreach Panel: It Gave ‘Food And Shelter’ To Blacks
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/03/15/1729331/cpac-slavery-minority-outreach/?mobile=nc
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"The exchange occurred after an audience member from North Carolina, 30-year-old Scott Terry, asked whether Republicans could endorse races remaining separate but equal. After the presenter, K. Carl Smith of Frederick Douglass Republicans, answered by referencing a letter by Frederick Douglass forgiving his former master, the audience member said “For what? For feeding him and housing him?” Several people in the audience cheered and applauded Terry’s outburst.
After the exchange, Terry muttered under his breath, “why can’t we just have segregation?” noting the Constitution’s protections for freedom of association. "

3/15/2013 7:11:26 PM

bobster
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^^Romney wasn't Bush, 2012 Republicans are not 2000 Republicans.

3/15/2013 7:14:58 PM

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^^ Nice - And he probably says he's not a racist to boot.

3/15/2013 8:13:44 PM

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I'm not really hearing any applause after he made those incredibly stupid statements. It sounded more like laughing, which was also my response.

3/15/2013 9:47:23 PM

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GOP establishment "mired in stupidity"
http://m.cbsnews.com/fullstory.rbml?catid=57574704&feed_id=null&videofeed=null

Guess who said that...

3/16/2013 12:51:14 PM

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Wait is that really him?

3/16/2013 3:00:53 PM

moron
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He basically admitted the GOP doesn't care about poor people. Pretty funny.

3/16/2013 3:07:21 PM

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""Mr. President you won. We accept it. Now step away from the Teleprompter and do your job!" Palin said. The crowd loved it. Having quit both her political job and her punditry job, Palin exempted herself from this demand. Her speech was a series of conservatives jokes. "Barack Obama promised the most transparent administration ever? Barack Obama, you lie!" Republicans can never compete with Democrats in the game to offer the most government money, whether it's "free energy or free Obamaphones or free prophylactics!" "More background checks ? Dandy idea, Mr. President. Shoulda started with yours!" Between all these base-rallying slogans, Palin condemned Obama for being a campaigner who divides people against each other, instead of a leader who takes risks."


all of the 's

[Edited on March 16, 2013 at 3:57 PM. Reason : awful]

3/16/2013 3:54:27 PM

y0willy0
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So what does everyone here think of Dr. Benjamin Carson?

3/16/2013 6:14:15 PM

qntmfred
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never heard of him, but he sounds like a real dickwad. who is he?

3/16/2013 9:10:18 PM

HockeyRoman
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He's the next conservative token black guy that the right are fawning over because he allegedly "takes it to Obama".

3/16/2013 9:53:47 PM

kiljadn
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my favorite thing about the rethugs is how they think they can pander by getting token minorities to carry their water



what a fucking joke

3/17/2013 12:09:37 PM

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my favorite thing about liberals is how they think the word "rethugs" is still funny/clever/relevant

and how any minority that isn't one of them is an uncle tom or a sellout

the guy is a fucking one-in-a-million genius, and somehow all the idiot conservatives are coercing him to speak on their behalf. right.

p.s. - he isn't a registered republican...bc he knows what it means to be a true conservative



[Edited on March 17, 2013 at 12:31 PM. Reason : .]

3/17/2013 12:24:42 PM

kiljadn
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Isn't a registered republican.

Appears at a conference made up of people who traditionally put minority interests last.

So it's mutual pandering.


thanks for the clarification

3/17/2013 1:29:57 PM

y0willy0
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Director of Pediatric Neurosurgery at John Hopkins = "token black guy" just because he happens to be Conservative.

Got it.

3/17/2013 4:47:24 PM

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