10/23/2014 8:52:00 PM

10/23/2014 9:07:12 PM

I'm working late tonight, so MORE EMAILS PLZ

10/23/2014 9:10:38 PM

just download the pdf mane. there's 900 pages, and they're all relevant.

10/23/2014 9:42:30 PM

Ah, it was 2 pages ago. Thnx

10/23/2014 9:49:29 PM

Nobody has mentioned how RACIST this entire thing is. Why didn't they do this for their history of arts or some other bullshit major. They have around 100 bullshit majors in general to pick from and they had to do it to the AFRO Americans!!!!

Bunch of racists over there running their program.

10/23/2014 9:51:23 PM

^ DBR said it, if you count that.

10/23/2014 9:56:07 PM

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"Implicit racism colors this entire episode. One of the most horrifying aspects of the exploitation of high-level college athletes, especially football and basketball players, is the vastly disproportionate impact on African American “students.” Too many black athletes with unrealistic dreams of NBA or NFL stardom arrive on campus unprepared academically and are allowed to depart with little meaningful classroom education. Walter Byers, the first executive director of the NCAA and now a critic of its practices, has described the “plantation mentality resurrected and blessed by today’s campus executives”—painful words, carefully chosen. Would UNC have tolerated the thorough undermining of an entire academic department other than Afro-American studies? Hard to picture. Could Nyang’oro and those who presumably aided and abetted him have come up with course titles any more likely to please skeptics of black-oriented scholarship? The first three classes confirmed to have been fraudulent, according to the News & Observer, pretended to offer students training in the Swahili language. An old-time Carolina Klan member couldn’t have conjured that detail in his most virulent daydream."

10/23/2014 9:56:51 PM

to boot, unc is a place that really gets up in arms about social justice. the entire student body should be outraged... and... boycott the school.

10/23/2014 9:58:34 PM

Re accreditation, this is what Google turns up. From June 2013 last year and an N&O article.

http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/06/20/2977833/unc-ch-will-be-monitored-not-sanctioned.html

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"CHAPEL HILL — Nearly 50 current students and more than 300 alumni who took fraudulent African studies courses at UNC-Chapel Hill may be heading back to class. That’s part of the university’s plan to “make whole” the academic degrees of 384 students who took the classes from 1997 to 2009 in what has become a reputation-smearing scandal at UNC-CH. The plan was accepted Thursday by the university’s accreditor, the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Commission on Colleges, which decided to monitor UNC-CH for a year instead of imposing a sanction. The decision came as a big relief to university leaders who for months have been answering questions from a SACS review team. By undertaking the do-over for affected students and alumni, the university managed to avoid probation or a warning from SACS – sanctions that can be a prelude to loss of accreditation. Colleges cannot get federal funding for research or financial aid if they are not accredited. The commission’s board reviewed the academic fraud that occurred in UNC-CH’s African and Afro-American Studies department, where an investigation found more than 200 classes with little or no instruction dating back to the late 1990s. The courses were heavily enrolled with athletes. The State Bureau of Investigation is still looking into possible criminal conduct in the matter. “The board felt that they were doing as much due diligence as was possible,” said Belle Wheelan, president of the commission. “I know that the people – some of the people anyway – who were involved in (the fraud) are no longer at the university, so what do you do? So all they can do is change their policies to ensure that it doesn’t happen again, and then try and find the students to see if they can’t make those degrees whole somehow.” Makeup course or exam Some on campus were appalled by the lack of action by the accrediting agency. “It’s amazing. I guess the flagship gets off the hook,” said Mary Willingham, a UNC-CH reading specialist who used to work with athletes and has been outspoken about the problems there. “For me, it’s getting to the point where power is so much more important than justice.” Forty-six current students will be given the option of taking a makeup course for free, sitting for an exam or submitting work that was done for classes that didn’t meet, if they want to graduate. Alumni will be offered a free course, though it won’t affect their degree or grades; transcripts cannot be altered after one year post-graduation, according to university policy. In all, the university said there were 80 students and 304 alumni who had taken 39 so-called “Type 1” lecture classes in which the instructor denied teaching it or signing the grade roll, or one in which the department chairman said had not been taught. Other courses were found to be less problematic and won’t have to be made up. Thirty-four of the current students either don’t need another course to qualify for graduation, successfully completed a higher level course or graduated elsewhere. In documents provided to the accrediting group, the university maintained that students said they did work in the classes, producing final papers. “The university does not believe that credit was awarded for courses in which students did no work, or that degrees were awarded to students who did not earn them,” said a May 28 response that UNC-CH submitted to SACS. In April, SACS sent a three-person review team to the campus to interview administrators about the steps they were taking to prevent a recurrence. While the team seemed satisfied with a series of policy and procedure changes, it didn’t want to let go the issue of degrees earned in part through fraudulent classes. When administrators said they would count the suspect classes toward graduation credit for current students, the SACS panel balked. “This decision by the institution calls into question the academic integrity of the degrees that may be awarded to these currently enrolled students,” the SACS committee wrote in its report after the April visit. In the end, the university settled on the extra classes for students and alumni. It said no taxpayer money would pay for the classes. The university will have to submit a report by next June on its progress toward that goal. In an email to the campus on Thursday, Chancellor Holden Thorp said he was pleased with the SACS decision. “We have provided information, responded to all questions, taken necessary actions, and documented the comprehensive reforms that we have put in place over the past two years because of issues related to the unprofessional and unethical actions of two former department employees,” wrote Thorp, who will step down as chancellor at the end of this month. “We are confident the sweeping changes we have made, based on the results of seven internal and independent, outside reviews or investigations, will prevent any recurrence of these irregularities.” Spot checks to continue In the spring semester, university administrators conducted surprise inspections of hundreds of classes to ensure that students and faculty were meeting and that the courses were legitimate. Those spot checks will continue, according to the accrediting team report, despite the fact that they irked some faculty. Such a review was unprecedented at UNC-CH, but so was the fraud, Wheelan said. Among the irregularities were no-show classes, poorly supervised independent studies and hundreds of unauthorized grade changes. ‘It was significant’ Athletes accounted for 45 percent of the enrollments in the suspect classes in a 10-year period, according to the review by former North Carolina Gov. Jim Martin. The university has repeatedly said the fraud constituted an academic scandal, not an athletic one. But recent emails showed a cozy relationship between athletes’ academic advisers and Julius Nyang’oro, the former department chairman and professor who has been blamed for the fraud, along with a former department manager, Debbie Crowder. “It was significant,” Wheelan said. “Anytime you bring in the integrity of the university and what it’s doing, it’s a serious issue. It can damage an institution’s reputation. But the board felt that they were doing as much as they could to right this wrong.” Willingham said it has been too easy for the university to write off the scandal by pointing the finger at two individuals instead of a corrupt system. “I don’t think we’ve even scratched the surface in doing the right thing at this point,” she said. “It’s shocking that we’re going to blame two people and move on.” "

I'm trying to picture in my head being out of school for say 8 years and then being called up saying "you have to redo a class." Also, how are the makeup classes free yet no taxpayer money is used to pay for them, just taken out of Chapel Hill's endowment funds?

But monitoring session from the accrediting agency would've ended in June earlier this year, although the bolded paragraphs seem contradicted by the Wainstein report.

[Edited on October 23, 2014 at 10:08 PM. Reason : .]

10/23/2014 10:07:57 PM

SACS deserves to take one on the chin too; the way they carry themselves around every campus ive worked on is comical in light of this.

10/23/2014 10:14:12 PM

AP article from tonight:

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"RALEIGH, N.C. -- An alarming lack of institutional oversight at the University of North Carolina allowed an academic fraud scandal to run unchecked for nearly two decades and has the school reeling from the scandal's fallout. The latest investigation found that university leaders, faculty members and staff missed or just ignored flags that could have stopped the problem years earlier. More than 3,100 students -- about half of them athletes -- benefited from sham classes and artificially high grades in the formerly named African and Afro-American Studies department (AFAM) in Chapel Hill. A report by former U.S. Justice Department official Kenneth Wainstein indicates that the bogus classes ended in 2011. The university has since overhauled the department and implemented new policies, but it must wait to find out whether the damaging new details lead to more problems with the agency that accredits the school. The NCAA, which has reopened its investigation into academic misconduct, also could have concerns about lack of institutional control. "Bad actions of a relatively few number of people were definitely compounded by inaction and the lack of really appropriate checks and balances," chancellor Carol Folt said Thursday. "And it was together that really allowed this to persist for such a length of time." The issues outlined in the report were jarring, including the clear involvement of athletic counselors who steered athletes into those bogus classes. From 1993 to 2011, those classes required no attendance and required only a research paper that received A's and B's without regard for quality, a cursory review often performed by an office secretary who also signed the chairman's name to grade rolls. Those two people -- retired administrator Deborah Crowder and former chairman Julius Nyang'oro -- were at the center of the scheme. But Wainstein's report also notes school officials failed to act on their suspicions or specific concerns that came to their attention. It all added up to a series of missed chances to stop the fraud and instead allowed it to escalate. Accreditation questions are now facing the university. The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools' Commission on Colleges had placed the campus on its watch list until this summer and required the school to allow students who took a bogus course to take another for free. The commission will send the school a letter in the next few days asking administrators to demonstrate they are in compliance with standards required for the seal of approval, SACS president Belle Wheelan said. "What we would do is ask them is, this is bigger than you thought it was, what are you going to do now? It's a mess," Wheelan said. The school's response will be addressed by the 77-member board at its meeting in December, she said. "We are interested in more than anything in making sure that the students don't run into problems trying to explain any degrees that they have after the fact as a result of this," Wheelan said. SACS' core requirements for accrediting a degree-granting university include clear control over "all aspects of its educational program," including athletics. And the issue of institutional control could impact the NCAA probe, raise questions about what coaches knew, and ultimately lead to possible wins and championships being vacated. "If we go back with the NCAA in our joint review, and ... if we've identified that we have played students who were ineligible, then obviously we would have to vacate wins at that time," UNC athletic director Bubba Cunningham said. "But as long as the courses and the credits and everything count to the accrediting agency, we're very comfortable with our certification process -- that our students were eligible to compete when they competed." The university's fate lies in someone else's hands now after a hands-off approach by administrators and autonomy for department chairs. The AFAM department escaped external reviews required every five years because it lacked a graduate program. Nyang'oro was also exempt from peer reviews for tenured faculty because he was a department chairman. Folt said she believed the school would have caught the fraud sooner if not for those since-removed exemptions. The report points out there also were other chances to stop it. Folt is holding everyone accountable. "It really isn't something that you could look at as only one thing," the chancellor said. "It had the combination, and that's why we have to make sure we can't be complacent about it. We have to accept full responsibility for it.""

10/23/2014 10:14:47 PM

Has anyone tried suing the school for their tuition money back yet? I mean, doesn't all this coming out devalue their degree?

[Edited on October 23, 2014 at 10:30 PM. Reason : h]

10/23/2014 10:15:36 PM

^ if you're an AFAM grad, definitely

10/23/2014 10:19:16 PM

http://portcitydaily.com/2014/10/23/uncw-releases-employee-connected-to-unc-academic-scandal/

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"A UNC-Wilmington employee named in an investigative report on the academic scandal at the University of North Carolina is no longer employed with the local university. According to UNCW Spokeswoman Janine Iamunno, the university has “separated” with Beth Bridger, an academic coordinator in the athletic department, who worked specifically with the men’s and women’s swimming and diving teams, as well as women’s tennis and volleyball."

10/23/2014 10:32:49 PM

Forbes

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesmarshallcrotty/2014/10/23/did-wainstein-report-whitewash-high-level-culprits-in-unc-grade-scandal/

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"Did Wainstein Report Whitewash High-Level Culprits In UNC Cheating Scandal? James Marshall Crotty An eight-month investigation by former federal prosecutor Kenneth L. Wainstein has found that more than 3100 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill students – almost half of them athletes — were given credit for “irregular” (read: nonexistent) classes over an 18-year period from 1993-2011 as part of a organized scheme that allowed many to remain sports-eligible. The Wainstein report — which the University of North Carolina (UNC) authorized and paid for — does not directly implicate any coach, though the beginning of the period in question does neatly coincide with the last four years of the Dean Smith coaching era (1993-1997), when the UNC men’s basketball team was dominant. Star players from just that four-year span included future NBA stars Jerry Stackhouse, Rasheed Wallace, Antawn Jamison, Vince Carter and Brendan Haywood. Neither Smith, nor his immediate successor Bill Guthridge, was interviewed, due to health reasons. Nevertheless, the report claims that the academic advisor to the UNC men’s basketball team during Smith’s tenure, the late Burgess McSwain, and her immediate successor, Wayne Walden, both knew of the scheme. Moreover, the report acknowledges that current UNC basketball coach, Roy Williams, admits to “having suspicions.” The Louis Round Wilson Library at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill wasn’t used very much by student-athletes at the heart of the school’s academic fraud scandal (Photo credit: Wikipedia) As delineated in the 131-page report, the cheating regime was overseen by former Department of African and Afro-American (AFAM) studies chair, Julius Nyang’oro, professor of record for many of the bogus courses (including a laughable 300 independent study courses per year). The scheme was implemented by Nyango’oro’s assistant Deborah Crowder, a nonacademic in charge of creating and grading the phantom classes. The report notes that often the only requirement for students participating in the “shadow curriculum” was to submit one paper (usually plagiarized) per class. Technically labeled “lecture classes” to circumvent UNC’s limit on “independent study” courses (an easier way to enable academic fraud), these classes involved zero lectures, zero work and zero attendance. Instead, they were known around campus as “paper classes.” The designation has more than literal resonance. The Wainstein report suggests that many administrators, faculty and coaches knew of the fraud — former UNC football coaches John Bunting and Butch Davis admitted as much — but did nothing to stop it, let alone investigate it further. However, one group did know plenty about the scheme and actively tried to protect and preserve it. Paid counselors in the school’s Academic Support Program for Student-Athletes (ASPSA) were tasked with doing whatever it took to keep Tar Heel athletes eligible, especially those in “revenue” sports like football and basketball. To that end, these counselors not only “steered” athletes to the AFAM department and did homework for them, but they regularly alerted Crowder and Nyang’oro about the grades that each student-athlete required in order to “remain academically or athletically eligible.” In one galling email exchange from September 23, 2008 — as reported in yesterday’s New York Times – Jeanette Boxill, then academic counselor for the UNC women’s basketball team, wrote the following to Crowder: “Hi Debby, Yes, a D will be fine; that’s all she needs. I didn’t look at the paper but figured it was a recycled one as well, but I couldn’t figure from where! Thanks for whatever you can do.” Ms. Boxill is now director of UNC’s Parr Center for Ethics. Outside experts hired by Wainstein’s team examined 150 of the fraudulent papers. In 61 cases, 25% of the text was lifted “verbatim from other sources.” In many cases, Crowder’s grades provided the “GPA boost” that enabled student-athletes to remain above the NCAA-mandated 2.0 threshold. Alas, according to the report, the true number of UNC students involved in the paper class fraud “very likely falls far short of the true number.” It is revealing that once Crowder and Nyang’oro retired, the Tar Heel football team recorded its lowest G.P.A. in a decade. Moreover, 10 of the 15 members of Roy Williams’ 2005 national championship team were AFAM majors.Coincidence or systemic design? Unfortunately, we didn’t receive a full-throated answer from Mr. Wainstein, perhaps because he was hired by the party that stands to lose the most from a comprehensive presentment. As a possible consequence, his report soft-pedals outrageous misdeeds under a saccharine narrative that those running the scheme were acting out of compassion. For example, Crowder is portrayed as a sympathetic “do-gooder” trying to help “challenged” students. Nyang’oro’s misdeeds are couched as a consequence of his “hands-off” management style. Talk about the soft bigotry of low expectations. Rather than the Wainstein report being the final word on UNC academic fraud – a result that the school’s beleaguered Chancellor, Carol Folt, would surely love – it, instead, should be the starting point for a merciless third-party review. Such an investigation would hopefully not sugar-coat its findings under the Pablum that infects the Wainstein report, which white-washes the “higher levels of the University” on the grounds that they had “insufficient appreciation of the scale of the problem.” Here’s a possible alternate narrative: UNC did not want to know the scale of the problem because there was too much money at stake from its hugely profitable sports programs. Moreover, a deeper dive might reveal Paterno-esque culpability by the school’s sacrosanct coaching legends. Such a revelation would not only eviscerate UNC’s brand value in the eyes of donors and recruits, but it might also net Penn-State-level sanctions, including the voiding of UNC’s men’s national championships from 1993, 2005 and 2009. I do not know if UNC had input into the wording of the Wainstein report. Moreover, I do not know what UNC paid Mr. Wainstein, Edelson PR — whom UNC archrival Duke also deployed during its lacrosse team rape scandal — or Professor Nyang’oro (whom, logic suggests, must have received something extra for the 300 independent study courses he “taught” every year). What I do know is that a truly independent inquiry would reveal the unvarnished truth, right down to naming all the “students” who benefited from what Gerald Gurney, president of the Drake Group — which seeks to protect higher education “from the corrosive aspects of commercialized college sports” — dubbed “the largest and most nefarious scandal in the history of NCAA enforcement.” That’s my take. Let me know what you think in the Comments area below."

10/23/2014 10:43:31 PM

^^ I'm still laughing about that. She cheated so hard at UNC that she got fired from a different university!

10/23/2014 10:53:05 PM

well, Wilmington is under the same umbrella as Chapel Hill

10/23/2014 10:55:41 PM

I keep reading they won't get the "Death Penalty" because TV contracts need to be fulfilled. That's cool, just revoke all scholarships and make them play with walk ons for a few years.

10/23/2014 11:14:34 PM

when they were going 3-9 every year with john bunting, the tv contracts were being fulfilled. i'll take that.

10/23/2014 11:17:13 PM

How are some of these retards even graduating high school?

It's amazing how many people will stick their neck out for you so long as you can bounce a ball.

10/23/2014 11:21:29 PM

racist

10/23/2014 11:22:35 PM

Someone else already hit on this, but UNC was put on probation in MARCH of 2012. This email is from April. If this, alone, doesn't warrant the death penalty for their entire athletic department, then I don't know what would.

10/23/2014 11:28:20 PM

that yahoo article from a couple of pages back gave me chills.

insane.

10/23/2014 11:37:40 PM

Even though football, basketball and to some extent baseball are the only sports you should brag about national titles in (AND BASS FISHING!), I hope they get some of their women's soccer titles yanked. That's like half of their titles when they brag about having 40 or 50 national championships or whatever. That would be almost as funny as their bball banners coming down.

10/23/2014 11:40:52 PM

I need to call the doctor because my schadenfreude has been rock fuckin' hard for way more than four hours.

10/23/2014 11:46:01 PM

So this stuff has been going on for...what? 18 years?

That's enough time for someone to be born, never learn to read, go to UNC, and pass one of their classes?

That's bananas, man.

10/23/2014 11:53:30 PM

Man, not trying to be a wet towel, but once the news cycle/outrage dies down in a couple of days, there will be a lull in the whole thing, and the NCAA will quietly let them off the hook on the Friday before Christmas...

10/24/2014 12:10:46 AM

people have been saying this will all blow over and get covered up for half a decade now

10/24/2014 12:24:45 AM

^^According to the Law of NC State Shit, UNC will not only get cleared of all wrongdoing, they'd be lauded for not leaving any children behind

10/24/2014 12:35:55 AM

^^^ That's what the cynic in me keeps saying, but I can't see all the other schools just letting this go. It almost seems as if the NCAA has to drop the hammer if they're going to keep their student/amateur athlete argument going.

10/24/2014 12:37:53 AM

(Mia Hamm potential) is the type of idiotic thing I'd expect someone with a unc education to say

[Edited on October 24, 2014 at 1:14 AM. Reason : robert mercer anson dorrance rape advocate rack focus coca cola leather mystics]

10/24/2014 1:01:01 AM

I love how @Joey_Powell is tweeting about everything except the UNC academic scandal. When that douchebag is at a loss for words you know they're fucked.

10/24/2014 1:18:33 AM

It's impressive that ESPN.com has managed not to have anything about this on their front page today.

10/24/2014 2:25:43 AM

The extent of the national coverage is bewildering, and most of those stories were based on the report itself. Hopefully they will dig into the emails and the stories will keep coming. The basebal and soccer coach at least have to be canned at this point.

10/24/2014 6:55:11 AM

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"I am proud of my alma mater for searching out all of the dirty laundry and cleaning it up. We can all continue to proudly wear our Carolina blue because EVERY DAY is a Great Day To Be A Tar Heel!"

Welcome to my facebook feed.

10/24/2014 7:37:22 AM

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"people keep saying unc is a cash cow... the last i checked all of football was driving the bus here."

the NCAA makes no money off of football. the basketball tourney is their cash cow

from a powerpoint deck in the 900 pages (highlighting mine to call out the irony)





[Edited on October 24, 2014 at 7:44 AM. Reason : .]

10/24/2014 7:42:07 AM

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"That's what the cynic in me keeps saying, but I can't see all the other schools just letting this go. It almost seems as if the NCAA has to drop the hammer if they're going to keep their student/amateur athlete argument going."

I think of the NCAA much like I do the UN at this point: a lot of high-minded idealism but when they get called once real problems exist they're nowhere to be found and the membership in fact wants nothing done.

If they did anything to Carolina that was a real action (it might give people here a boner but vacating national championships and wins are not real actions, they still won the titles, real actions affect the future), I'd expect more actions to further discredit and marginalize the existence of the NCAA when it comes to top college sports. But if they don't do anything here, why is there an NCAA?

[Edited on October 24, 2014 at 7:59 AM. Reason : /]

10/24/2014 7:46:55 AM

No vacated wins. You can't take away the 8-20 season from me.

10/24/2014 7:52:09 AM

only wins get vacated, not losses. so that season now becomes an 0-20 season.

10/24/2014 7:53:48 AM

Yea my FB feed was pretty quiet on the subject, surprisingly. One fellow Wolfpacker posted something about it and a mutual friend of ours who is currently enrolled here at Carolina took offense. I chimed in and pointed out that this shit has nothing to do with a regular student, as obviously these athletes had a completely different degree track going where they did not have to work or even attend class for their high GPA, unlike everybody else. Shit I work here and I hope they throw the fucking death penalty at them, and God willing I will be there when the banners come down from the rafters with my camera blasting away at all the baby blue tears being shed.

10/24/2014 7:57:53 AM

If they take down banners, you better fucking go in there and record that shit on the DL. Like someone said above, I will literally use that footage as prime JO material for the next decade or more

And yeah, if you say one thing about UNC, people get very upset around here. Its like you are insulting their good ol dead paw-paw who never did anything wrong, and would give money to all the poor people in the community.

l

[Edited on October 24, 2014 at 9:02 AM. Reason : l']

10/24/2014 9:00:43 AM

Are there emails implicating baseball and Mike Fox? Would love to see them go down also. Michael Russell, Chaz Frank, Skye Bolt, Colin Moran, Hobbs Johnson, etc.....I hate their baseball team more than basketball. Bunch of smug assholes. Already proof that Hobbs Johnson was ineligible and then took like 4 Summer classes and magically made A's in all of them to play.

10/24/2014 9:26:24 AM

Where's StingrayRush?

10/24/2014 9:29:32 AM

Yep. I think UNC said that no coaches had knowledge of the fake classes but Wainstein included some emails in the addendum that have Mike Fox copied, with his academic support guy requesting fake classes. I think there is another email directly from Fox too, but don't feel like looking it up.

PP sent this info to College Baseball Daily, who is covering this story:

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"From college baseball daily: Karen Moon who is the Director of Communications and Public Affairs for the University of North Carolina has offered the following statement on if any discipline will take place with Coach Fox in regards to the inconsistencies between his statements and email communications. Mr. Wainstein’s investigation was thorough and has been completed. We believe no further action needs to be taken."

So its not over.

I think Wainstein delivered the report that UNC influenced, then cleverly left all the damning stuff in the addendum so that he wouldn't be accused of white washing

10/24/2014 9:30:05 AM

http://www.collegebaseballdaily.com/2014/10/23/north-carolinas-mike-fox-knew-about-paper-classes/




=====================

And remember the Naval Weapons/Nuclear Engineering classes the basketball team took for easy As awhile back? The Navy Officer/Professor has some thoughts on Roy Williams' knowledge of the fake classes:



This guy has some very interesting tweets over the last 3 days

[Edited on October 24, 2014 at 10:01 AM. Reason : dwq]

10/24/2014 9:36:48 AM

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"Mr. Wainstein’s investigation was thorough and has been completed. We believe no further action needs to be taken."

An investigation does not constitute punishment. It's pretty clear that's the statement all the UNC mouthpieces have been ordered to give but come on.

Seriously though, how easy has Wainstein made it for NCAA? All the legwork is done for them.

10/24/2014 10:00:53 AM

I normally don't post so much, but this is so much fun. Here's another LOL.

Jan Boxill talking about how much she has done to try to lead UNC through the scandal(8/26/13):

http://www.dailytarheel.com/article/2013/08/boxill-0827

10/24/2014 10:09:03 AM

Colin Cowherd - "If 18 years of academic fraud doesn't get the death penalty, what does?"

10/24/2014 10:40:20 AM

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""If we go back with the NCAA in our joint review, and ... if we've identified that we have played students who were ineligible, then obviously we would have to vacate wins at that time," UNC athletic director Bubba Cunningham said. "But as long as the courses and the credits and everything count to the accrediting agency, we're very comfortable with our certification process -- that our students were eligible to compete when they competed.""

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"Alumni will be offered a free course, though it won’t affect their degree or grades; transcripts cannot be altered after one year post-graduation, according to university policy."

Well I see Bubba is already trying to set it up on how they plan to avoid vacating any wins at least voluntarily. What a fucking toolbag.

10/24/2014 10:46:33 AM