Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe the right should grab their bootstraps and get their shit together. 2/22/2017 9:50:04 AM |
Cabbage All American 2087 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The leftist media taking a 2 month snapshot of a statistic that varies greatly month to month to claim Trump is associated with anti-Semitism is predictable, as is the propensity of gullible hacks to eat it up. Sad!" |
I'm curious: What is your opinion of Trump eating up the Fox News "Sweden is going to hell" narrative? Or Trump's claim that the murder rate is the highest its been in 47 years?2/22/2017 10:32:59 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
It's a hack and a troll so doesn't care. 2/22/2017 10:37:43 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Sweden is the rape capital of the world. They literally had to stop tracking the stats of rapists, and then stop tracking rapes all together to avoid revealing how immigration isn't working.
I'm assuming Trump did what he normally does: gets the leftist media to talk about what he wants them to talk about (subject wise). 2/22/2017 10:40:52 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Nope, we don't need the EPA
http://discovermagazine.com/2009/mar/13-whatever-happened-to-acid-rain 2/22/2017 10:45:17 AM |
Cabbage All American 2087 Posts user info edit post |
^^Oh, so you eat up the Sweden narrative, too? How unsurprisingly hypocritical of you
[Edited on February 22, 2017 at 10:45 AM. Reason : ^^] 2/22/2017 10:45:39 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
He gets his news from Sean Hannity. What do you expect. 2/22/2017 10:49:34 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I'm not using anecdotal, or cherry-picked evidence to suggest something. I don't even have to point to the numbers, because the fact that Sweden is deliberately hiding the evidence is all the proof you need.
The migrants come from a culture that isn't compatible. Though the hypocrisy of leftists bitching about nonexistent "rape culture" in college then turning a blind eye to an actual rape culture from Islamic countries is hilarious. 2/22/2017 10:56:48 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
sounds like a narrative to me.
please provide proof that Sweden is deliberately hiding evidence, and has "literally" stopped tracking "the stats of rapists". what are your sources for these claims? and why do you trust them?
(i know, why am i bothering? but i really am curious about the psychology of internet trolls. in this case, i wonder if it a complete act and it recognizes its hypocrisy but the joy of trolling is too overwhelming to care, or if really is that hypocritically stupid) 2/22/2017 11:02:58 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
JCE visits Sweden often and has seen it with his own eyes!
Facts are hidden. You'll never know without visiting!!! 2/22/2017 11:06:09 AM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
Sweden's rape numbers are high because it has one of the broadest legal definitions of rape and counts multiple rape/assault charges as individual incidents. 2/22/2017 11:15:47 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
^^^message_topic.aspx?topic=646702&page=1
I love it when Bullet feels brave enough to take a break from trolling and spamming and actually tries to challenge something. We will see how many posts he lasts.
[Edited on February 22, 2017 at 11:17 AM. Reason : ^^^ 2 many SJWs] 2/22/2017 11:16:33 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
oh boy, let's! 2/22/2017 11:18:05 AM |
Cabbage All American 2087 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm not using anecdotal, or cherry-picked evidence to suggest something." |
Yeah, you take it one step further:
Providing no evidence at all!
But...muh...narrative
LOL
[Edited on February 22, 2017 at 11:23 AM. Reason : /]2/22/2017 11:23:29 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
I asked it to provide sources and explain why he trusts those and it posted a link to a TWW thread.
It would be nice if it could just provide some sources that confirm the claims that it made, and explain why it trusts those sources.
It seems to me it trusts sources when they reinforce its beliefs, but otherwise it's just the media pushing narratives.
[Edited on February 22, 2017 at 11:37 AM. Reason : ] 2/22/2017 11:30:46 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Soros is gonna go broke if the GOP keeps setting up these town halls 2/22/2017 11:45:46 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
When was the last time JCE left the continent? 2/22/2017 11:47:11 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Supposedly it was recently in California (doubtful though) 2/22/2017 11:55:18 AM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
He screens his potential vacations by the local Taco Bell Yelp reviews. 2/22/2017 12:02:26 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The BRÅ has not released detailed data on rape committed by immigrants since 1996" |
-Wikipedia
Based on comments from retired Swedish police officers, any crime involving migrants is classified as a code 291 and kept from public record.
Google Peter Springare or Tomas Asenlov to see their comments. Springare is facing criminal charges for his viral post about immigrants, just to show you the atmosphere the radical left has created in Sweden.
Example to see how the media covers migrant rape up in Sweden: https://nyatider.nu/disclosure-the-four-swedes-in-custody-for-gang-rape-are-somali-citizens/
Refers to Somali migrants as "Swedes".
I think the Swedish cop getting arrested for speaking out about the situation is the most telling.2/22/2017 1:38:45 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
so i take it that Nya Tider (New Times) is one of the credible media sources you recommend? 2/22/2017 1:46:57 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Not sure, I don't read Sweden News sources. I'm sure it will be taken down by the government soon though 2/22/2017 1:51:20 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
i mean you give everyone such a hard time about using fake news sources, i wanted to make sure that's a source i can trust
is it fake news or are they credible? 2/22/2017 1:57:02 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
When I google Springare, the top sites are: Foxnews, wikipedia, breitbart, bluelivesmatter, express.co.uk, and RT. Are you sure they are credible and not just trying to push a narrative? After quickly looking into many of your recent claims, i'm noticing that each one was recently covered in the last day or two on Foxnews. I don't know if that can be trusted as a completely credible source.
And what makes you trust the claims of some random retired swedish cop? How do you know that guy is credible? How do you not know he had some greivance and has an agenda to push a false narrative.
You really need to explain your logic on what you trust and find credible versus what is fake and pushing an agenda. Because the more you try, the more it just sounds like you trust stories that fit your beliefs, and dismiss the others.
[Edited on February 22, 2017 at 2:01 PM. Reason : ] 2/22/2017 1:57:43 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Well fortunately that is all just supplemental to your original request. The first quote from Wikipedia answered your challenge. Ignore the rest if you don't trust it, though I would say the fact that the cop is being arrested for speaking up about it speaks volumes. 2/22/2017 2:08:33 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
but how can i know if the cop has been arrested for speaking up, which media source should i use to check?
for example, even brietbart and fox say nothing about an arrest. i think you are making that up, i think the arrest is fake news.
[Edited on February 22, 2017 at 2:14 PM. Reason : .] 2/22/2017 2:11:18 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
^^the first quote from Wikipedia doesn't answer my challenge. It just says the bra stopped releasing detailed data on rapes by immigrants since 1996. First off, why should I trust Wikipedia? And second, you're using that lone quote, with no other details, to justify all the other claims you're making? What does it mean "detailed data"? Does that mean they just stopped releasing some of the details they used to include, like their age? Or how long they'd been in the country? It says the Bra stopped releasing the detailed data. Did another agency continue or start to release data? Did the Bra stop releasing all rape data, or just immigrant rape data? Why did they stop in 1996? What was immigration like in 1996?
I mean, if that's the only quote you're using , talk about spinning a "narrative". How do you not see that you do the exact same thing you criticize all the SJWs for doing? Oh right, you're just trolling while trying to push your narrative.
[Edited on February 22, 2017 at 2:43 PM. Reason : What am I doing?] 2/22/2017 2:22:54 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
You realize in the time it took you to type those 10 questions you could have just Googled the wiki quote to see the full context?
The fact is you can't find out what % of migrants are responsible for what crimes because Sweden stopped tracking those factors in their data. I'm not sure how you are confused by that, or if you're just trying to troll since I don't think you ever actually post seriously. 2/22/2017 2:40:56 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
LOL. That quote is credited to Larsdotter, Anna (3 February 2003). "Brottsoffer i skymundan" (in Swedish). Populär Historia. Retrieved 29 March 2015. Why should I trust that source? Why do you trust that source? Why do you trust Wikipedia? Do you know what Wikipedia is? 2/22/2017 2:46:18 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
lol, no comment on the arrest fake news 2/22/2017 2:49:42 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.factcheck.org/2017/02/trump-exaggerates-swedish-crime/
Is this more or less credible than Wikipedia? 2/22/2017 2:56:24 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "In all honesty here, that reporter knew what he was doing, and Trump called him out on it. He tried to correlate Trump's presidency with anti-Semitism when he should have just asked him if he was gonna comment on the growing number of anti-semitic threats/attacks. Period. Done. " |
He really didn't. "I don't know of anyone calling you anti-Semitic. We want to know what the government is going to do to take care of this problem." He asked calmly and non accusatory. Trump can't hear anything without taking it personally. If he's the least anti-Semitic person, he should have proved it by speaking out against anti-Semitic actions much much sooner.
Quote : | "You hacks will parrot whatever the leftist propaganda tells you huh
Don't look at the overall trends, let's take a biased snapshot and compare apples to oranges to suggest it "sky rocketed". Fake News. Sad" |
I didn't have to hear it from media propoganda. I had to hear it from friends in St. Louis who had to clean up their grandmother's desecrated gravesite next to dozens of other families doing the same. I hear it from my collegues who had to evacuate their places of work at Jewish-run organizations because of bomb threats. What exactly is fake about any of this? Of course anti-Semitism existed just as much 3 months ago as it does now. But now people who feel that kind of hatred think they've been validated by their president and don't fear consequences for these kinds of things.
Quote : | "So where's your data on the overall trends to prove that statement is incorrect?" |
His "evidence" is that the president is the least anti-Semitic person EVER. So obviously there can't be more anti-Semitic acts now that he is president.
Quote : | "correlation causation fallacy. As much as we would all like to pin it on him, there has to be more evidence than just a trend showing that he is directly involved or somehow inspiring people to commit these acts." |
No one is trying to pin it on him. No one is saying it's his fault. Everyone is asking why it took so long for him to say something about it, and why is it that he still hasn't done anything about it.
Quote : | "The leftist media taking a 2 month snapshot of a statistic that varies greatly month to month to claim Trump is associated with anti-Semitism is predictable, as is the propensity of gullible hacks to eat it up. Sad!" |
You want a longer view of rising anti-Semitism? How about it goes all the way back to when Trump announced he was running...50% increase in violent acts against Jews from 2014 to 2015. http://www.adl.org/press-center/press-releases/anti-semitism-usa/2015-audit-anti-semitic-incidents.html#.WK4MclUrLIU2/22/2017 5:12:27 PM |
Cabbage All American 2087 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm not using anecdotal, or cherry-picked evidence to suggest something." |
OK, I'm waiting. And....
...anecdote has been delivered!
But...muh...narrative2/22/2017 5:43:05 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think anyone claims Trump is antisemitic himself. Hell his favorite child married a Jew (who is also his close adviser) and converted herself.
But it's no secret the he courts antisemitic votes and his "anti-PC" rhetoric emboldens racist groups. 2/22/2017 6:17:49 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't think anyone claims Trump is antisemitic himself" |
You can find anything on Twitter, but yeah there isn't anyone of any significance saying that, despite the strawmen saying otherwise.2/22/2017 9:13:13 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
^Exactly, and neither was the Jewish reporter. I'm sick of this exchange:
Reporter: Mr. President, Jews are being targeted.
Trump: BUT I WON 306 ELECTORAL VOTES! THAT'S LIKE THE MOST EVER!
Reporter: Obama had 365 and 332
Trump: I MEAN THE MOST FOR A REPUBLICAN. EVER!
Reporter: Bush Sr. had 426.
Trump: WRONG! LIES! FAKE NEWS! IT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD!
Reporter: So about that anti-Semitism...
Trump: 2/22/2017 10:08:48 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
Surfed over to the_donald with hopes of drinking in the tears of all those alleged transgender people that were so gung-ho for Trump. Unfortunately, I could only find "George Takkei is running a Hollywood child rape ring" conspiracy theories. Oh wells. 2/23/2017 7:51:35 AM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
well they ban anyone with an opinion/narrative they don't like so... 2/23/2017 8:36:24 AM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
#snowflakes 2/23/2017 8:38:29 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Because all trans people are a victimhood monolith that fits perfectly into whatever the DNC's agenda requires them to 2/23/2017 9:13:35 AM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
seems like that is a pretty innocent assumption when you compare it to the assumption that all trans people are mentally disturbed and are out to rape our daughters in the restroom. The former leads to productive conversation on norms, the latter leads to neo-confederates dragging you behind their pickup truck through the middle of town.
States Rights!!!!!!!!! 2/23/2017 9:32:50 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
If a trans person uses the bathroom they identify with and someone complains that it upset them who is crying victim in this situation?
Who actually had the victim complex? 2/23/2017 9:52:02 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Ironically enough it isn't "neoconfederates" killing trans people (though I can see how you would love that for a narrative).
In terms of transgender homicides it is overwhelmingly black men killing black transgendered people. It's an awkward dilemma for leftists because they want to reference the dead transgendered people, but they don't want to reference black on black violence. 2/23/2017 10:44:00 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
do you want to change the subject and talk about the fragile psyche of men? 2/23/2017 10:48:53 AM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
You love to use statistics and data to refute arguments, so why is it you can't internalize that transgender folks attacking women in bathrooms is virtually non-existent? 2/23/2017 10:50:49 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Straw man.
Where have I said that it is existent? 2/23/2017 10:53:10 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
But look! Black dudes are doing something!!!
Ignore the man behind the curtain!!! 2/23/2017 10:55:26 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Sources? 2/23/2017 11:01:31 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Also the "straw man" is what has been repeated by several state legislatures to defend passing bathroom Bills. 2/23/2017 11:03:53 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-39049670 2/23/2017 11:18:32 AM |