she hit a new low for you in all of her 30 seconds of screen time?

5/22/2012 10:10:08 PM

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"forgot to say i was also thoroughly unimpressed that the older knights watch guy got caught as well. He seemed like a season vet whos hunted "wildlings" forever and knew how to avoid them. Yet all his men die and hes captured like a faggot."

If it wasn't for the other men getting killed (can't remember if this was said by anyone except Halfhand) I think he might have gotten captured on purpose to find Jon. I did like his idea of getting Jon to become a double agent by getting him pissed at him.

5/22/2012 10:47:24 PM

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"side-note gripe that i've been meaning to mention for a while: emilia clarke (the woman who plays dany) is a pretty atrocious actor imo. i feel like she just has the same wide-eyed look for every single situation, it's so annoying. and i feel like she never does a good job getting across how dany is feeling about something. i honestly have no idea why they would've cast her as one of the absolute most important characters of the series."

idk, i feel like I know what she's thinking most of the time. Most of the time, she's thinking about her dragons, getting ships, and taking back her throne. And when she's speaking with her handmaidens or whatever, I feel like you can read how she's considering each of their comments and how to respond and what not. But honestly, what else has she had to think about really?

I liked her character a lot at first. I liked how she gradually became confident and strong-minded. And I think the actress did a great job of portraying that transformation. Now I just think of her as being kind of bratty. -- but that's not the acting, it's character development or lack of. The stuff in Karth (sp?) has been pretty slow, so I'm not sure what more she could have been doing. Her character has been pretty much in the same position all season. In the desert, she had little screen time and what there was was devoted to them being desperate and wanting to reclaim her throne. And it's pretty much been the same in Karth. So I don't know if I can fault her for not really doing much with it when they haven't really given her much to do to begin with.

At the end of the day, an actor/actress is working with what they're given. And it's up to the director to "direct" them in how they portray what is written. Maybe she's performing it exactly how they're asking her to and thinks it's kind of shitty herself.

[Edited on May 22, 2012 at 11:16 PM. Reason : .]

5/22/2012 11:14:19 PM

No, he's right. She's a shitty actress. Always has been. That's why any scene where she's not getting naked is a tragic waste of screen time.

[Edited on May 23, 2012 at 7:57 AM. Reason : Jesus christ, you are seeing a lot of character development where there is non. Talk about bad taste]

5/23/2012 7:56:09 AM

To be fair, she doesn't do anything in the last few books, either. Just a shitty character and a shitty actress.

5/23/2012 8:00:07 AM

you must feel very strongly about this in order to double post in 4 minutes instead of just editing your last rant

5/23/2012 8:02:42 AM

I feel like her best performances were when Count Drogo was nailing her from behind. Since then, very meh.

5/23/2012 8:09:32 AM

Count Drogo

5/23/2012 8:15:44 AM

I think you mean "Khal Drogo."

5/23/2012 9:11:16 AM

her best performances are when she is naked. that's one righteous bod.

5/23/2012 10:02:05 AM

Carl Drogo

5/23/2012 10:11:55 AM

there's is no argument that her screen presence sky rockets when she's naked and/or getting nailed.

But anyone who thinks she did not go from being her brother's little bitch, to realizing that she has some power/authority, and then gaining the confidence to use it, missed a lot of her character during season one. Perhaps because they were distracted by her nakedness.

5/23/2012 11:26:49 AM

^I know what you mean, I like the character of Daenerys (and I'd tell you what I'm comparing to when I say I don't think she's supposed to be played like such a brat but we're not allowed to talk about that point of contrast in this thread ), but this season it just feels like the same shit with her over and over and over again. She's always fucking pissed about her dragons. I could obviously be wrong, but I think the onus for Dany's flatness as a character falls on the actress. I don't think the writers/directors/behind-the-scenes people are telling her, "Look, no matter what happens, JUST PLAY PISSED OFF." She's gotta give us something to root for, otherwise she just comes off like a brat and I don't think that character is supposed to come off like a brat.

5/23/2012 12:21:12 PM

I feel that her story arc is the lamest when it should be one of the most important and engaging. Maybe it's just me hoping that dragon storyline comes to epic fruition in the books yet to be written and she is a major part of the ultimate culmination of the series.

5/23/2012 12:35:43 PM

i feel like jon snow's story line is the lamest right now

5/23/2012 12:54:08 PM

When it switches to Dany's storyline while I'm watching the show, I usually get up and get something to eat or drink

5/23/2012 1:08:48 PM

^^ And that's sad, because the second book(season) is when his story becomes really interesting and engaging.

5/23/2012 1:18:14 PM

tellus more about the second book, maybe they are moving his storyline out to the 3rd season?

[Edited on May 23, 2012 at 1:24 PM. Reason : 3rd]

5/23/2012 1:24:03 PM

Timeline wise it's spot on. They're just doing a bad job with his arch.

5/23/2012 1:35:18 PM

The nurse chick is Charlie chaplin's granddaughter wtf

5/23/2012 1:42:19 PM

She must be a lot older than she looks.

5/23/2012 2:06:33 PM

Really liked the latest episode. It had a lot of humorous moments.

I don't see how you could miss that she told the dude to kill himself. The entire conversation revolved around her bartering his life for her escape.

5/23/2012 2:15:03 PM

^^ she's 25

5/23/2012 2:21:49 PM

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"but this season it just feels like the same shit with her over and over and over again."

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"When it switches to Dany's storyline while I'm watching the show, I usually get up and get something to eat or drink"

I concur. They made her a big deal last season, and she's barely a player this season. If we don't need to care about her much now, I'd prefer they just not show her at all for a while instead of showing her do the same thing week after week. Hopefully they will at least be some movement now that the guy had all of the others killed.

5/23/2012 2:50:20 PM

haha, yeah... khal drogo.

5/23/2012 3:30:25 PM

captain dragon

5/23/2012 3:47:00 PM

Ivan Drago

5/24/2012 1:01:48 PM

I'll admit that I'm horrible remembering some character names and their spelling but The Greatest City that Ever Was or Will Be's name is spelled Qarth, not Karth. And it's clearly spelled out on the map at the beginning of every episode

5/24/2012 1:14:21 PM

5/24/2012 6:13:57 PM

My wife does a hilarious Dany impression. She looks extremely similar, and at totally random times she'll just shout out "I AM THE - MOTHER - OF - DRAGONS!!"

5/25/2012 9:05:46 AM

MODILF

5/25/2012 9:08:25 AM

this is too weird for me to handle.

5/25/2012 9:26:20 AM

awesome

5/25/2012 10:17:19 AM

That's arya?? That is, indeed, awesome.

5/25/2012 10:27:23 AM

^^^ SPOILERS OF A SCENE FROM THE BOOK, SUSPEND.

5/25/2012 10:28:44 AM

Am I the only one that thinks Jon Snow could possibly be Robert Baratheon's son? Don't all the Baratheon's have hair of black? And in the first season Ned Stark wouldn't even talk to Robert about it. Made me think that he hid his bastard son from him and faced the wrath of Catelyn for having a mistress just to hide the King's indiscretions. And that would make him joining the night watch an even bigger deal (I also thought I remembering them putting emphasis on not being able to return home to hold a position of power or something like that).

Anyways...just thought I'd throw that out there.

[Edited on May 25, 2012 at 10:59 AM. Reason : .]

5/25/2012 10:38:16 AM

that has been thrown around as a potential theory, and there is some credible evidence to back it up.

5/25/2012 10:54:04 AM

The only reason I could think of for Ned hiding Jon is because he would somehow know that Cersei/Joffrey would go nuts one day executing all of Robert's bastards. Robert already has tons of bastards all over the place (including Gendry)... why would Ned specifically single out Jon as the one that needed the most protecting. There are a number of theories about who Jon may or may not be related to but I won't post them here.

5/25/2012 11:15:45 AM

^ I don't think he knew about all the bastards until he got to King's Landing. I feel like he was in the process of protecting them when the shit hit the fan.

5/25/2012 11:19:33 AM

It doesn't matter whether he's actually Robert's son or not. The fact that he's a bastard discredits him to any claim to the throne at all anyway.

If it's proven that Joffrey isn't Robert's son, then Robert has no true born royal male heirs. The line of succession falls to Stannis.

5/25/2012 12:54:37 PM

Then why did Joffrey have all of Robert's bastards killed?

5/25/2012 12:57:27 PM

Because they were more evidence that Joffrey wasn't Robert's son and thus Joffrey would have no claim by tradition

5/25/2012 1:01:34 PM

Because Joffrey is an evil little prick

5/25/2012 1:03:13 PM

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"It doesn't matter whether he's actually Robert's son or not. The fact that he's a bastard discredits him to any claim to the throne at all anyway. If it's proven that Joffrey isn't Robert's son, then Robert has no true born royal male heirs. The line of succession falls to Stannis."

So what if Stannis dies? Who is in line then? I, too, do not understand why Ned would go through the trouble of trying to protect Robert's bastards if they had no claim whatsoever.

5/25/2012 1:21:04 PM

Agreed. I'm not sure where he's getting "bastards don't have an right" from. It would make no sense for the whole hubub over all of Robert's bastards if that were the case.

5/25/2012 1:32:42 PM

Bastards don't have a right following the traditional rules set up there unless legitimized by someone with the authority to do so (usually the king). Same reason Jon Snow would never be able to serve as Lord of Winterfell (unless legitimized).

Now that's just talking about "legal" claims following whatever succession rules are in place by those currently in power. It can be an entirely different story if someone just happens to have people behind them like Renly. Someone without a claim but recognized. This extends to someone who is actually recognized as the bastard son of someone in power. For example, if Gendry was widely known to be Robert's son he could still make a claim and get people behind him. After all, he is Robert's son (even if a bastard) and Joffrey isn't Robert's son at all. And no one likes Joffrey.

So there are reasons beyond the legal succession. It's not all black and white.

[Edited on May 25, 2012 at 1:55 PM. Reason : ]

5/25/2012 1:39:47 PM

doesn't matter anyway, he's part of night's watch

5/25/2012 1:46:56 PM

^Jon was just an example. And a King can relieve someone of their duty from the Night's Watch as well. (No spoilers here, just general info). Much like history, a King can generally banish, kill, pardon, etc. as he likes (as well as accept the consequences that come with it of course).

[Edited on May 25, 2012 at 1:57 PM. Reason : ]

5/25/2012 1:54:19 PM

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"The baseborn have few rights under the law and custom when it comes to rights of inheritance. A bastard may inherit if the father has no other trueborn children nor any other likely kin to follow him. Additionally, a bastard can inherit if he is legitimized by a royal decree. However, a legitimized bastard falls in the order of succession at the end, after all trueborn offspring, including daughters."

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Bastardy

Warning: spoilers in the link

5/25/2012 3:09:49 PM

So according to that quoted text; If Stannis dies, Gendry (assuming there's proof he's Robert's son) would be next in line......... or Jon if he turns out to be Robert's son and is older than Gendry (Jon Snow was at least raised by a lord).

[Edited on May 25, 2012 at 3:16 PM. Reason : jon not robert]

5/25/2012 3:15:50 PM