Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
47 11/16/2008 7:56:24 AM |
kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
i hate this thread 11/16/2008 11:16:32 AM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but if we finish in hte bottom 3 again, he is def in the hot seat and i wouldnt be shocked/unhappy if he was let go" |
Our backcourt still consists of Javi, Degand (who managed to get hurt again in the first game), and Ferguson. We will finish in the bottom 3.
But he already has a solid class coming in next year, with potentially one or two of the best players in the country joining them. He's not going to be fired.11/16/2008 11:47:26 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
^So if we go say 10-20 but because he has top players coming in he can't be fired? He already landed Hickson and Smith in the same year and the team got worse.
Quote : | "we suffered through 10 years with no titles under Herb Sendek, so we should at least give Lowe half as many years to prove what he can do with his own talent. " |
God not the Herb arguement again, please stop bringing him up so I won't defend him. Herb and Sidney came in with way different situations and certainly way different expectations.
Quote : | "Putting him on a hotseat now would just scare any decent coach away from coming here to be a replacement." |
Too late we did that already by running off a successful coach and then our AD being a complete fuckup.11/16/2008 12:17:18 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Good lord, there is NO way Lowe is gone after his year, nor should he be.
We can go 1-season and he'll be back... 11/16/2008 12:29:30 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Too late we did that already by running off a successful coach" |
rawr rawr rawr
one sweet sixteen in 10 years is not "successful"
rawr rawr rawr
[seriously though, it's not]11/16/2008 1:25:13 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
Like I have said before, Lowe recruits like Amato and he coaches like Amato....
[Edited on November 16, 2008 at 1:27 PM. Reason : w] 11/16/2008 1:26:05 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
that's ridiculous
and even if it were true, that style would work better in basketball anyway.
Lowe's a pimp 11/16/2008 2:29:59 PM |
Erios All American 2509 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Like I have said before, Lowe recruits like Amato and he coaches like Amato...." |
Exactly. There's absolutely no way you can compete in Division 1 basketball if you're an excellent recruiter and a modest to above-average coach.
Signed,
Roy Williams11/16/2008 3:48:14 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Let's keep the lineup experiments to the scrub teams, please
yep, game was lost when the scrubs let them come back near the middle of second half.
[Edited on December 6, 2008 at 1:53 PM. Reason : .] 12/6/2008 1:44:07 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
post 12/6/2008 1:54:46 PM |
beergolftile All American 9030 Posts user info edit post |
post 12/6/2008 2:09:50 PM |
nattrngnabob Suspended 1038 Posts user info edit post |
Where did the will of this team go? They forgot what it takes to win. No desire. On the bomb Curry hit to go up by 4, everyone was watching the fucking three go up from the corner, McCauley allowed himself to be shoved under the rim for an easy board for them, then Curry was out beating his virgin cock off and having a coke before deciding to launch from Monroe. WTF? Our boys don't have heart or an awareness of the situation and what it takes to seal the deal. Dunno if that is Sid or lack of Sr leadership or what. 12/6/2008 2:14:51 PM |
tsavla All American 6787 Posts user info edit post |
post 12/6/2008 2:15:41 PM |
ohmy All American 3875 Posts user info edit post |
Let's keep the lineup experiments to the scrub teams, please
yep, game was lost when the scrubs let them come back near the middle of second half. 12/6/2008 2:16:35 PM |
beergolftile All American 9030 Posts user info edit post |
what do we have to do to get some players that can shoot better than 20% from 3 12/6/2008 2:16:42 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
argh 12/6/2008 2:17:30 PM |
HaLo All American 14263 Posts user info edit post |
^^bring back Herb? 12/6/2008 2:17:58 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Post. I just don't feel good about Lowe...never have. Fuck. It'll be a few years before we can replace him too. 12/6/2008 2:18:46 PM |
beergolftile All American 9030 Posts user info edit post |
this thread will go to 100 pages this year 12/6/2008 2:18:58 PM |
Ytsejam All American 2588 Posts user info edit post |
Lowe has been, and will be a terrible coach. We ran off Herb for this guy? Seriously? 12/6/2008 2:20:01 PM |
LetsTAILGATE All American 2331 Posts user info edit post |
*via text*-THEY PLAYED A RANKED TEAM! They are better than us this year. relax people. 12/6/2008 2:24:44 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
fuck off. 12/6/2008 2:24:52 PM |
ohmy All American 3875 Posts user info edit post |
well pretty clearly sid's not a good coach. the question is whether we should give him time to learn. or time to get the really good recruits in that we know he can recruit. 12/6/2008 2:30:31 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Costner is the team leader. That explains everything 12/6/2008 2:33:24 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the question is whether we should give him time to learn." |
who's going to take his place? it's not as if there's a long list of accomplished coaches willing to take the job. anyone who takes it right now is going to have to learn.
everyone just calm down.12/6/2008 2:35:08 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
This is going to be a long season.
Anything better than 5-11 in the ACC would be considered a success.
Our depth is all borderline ACC scholarship players. Our starters are a combination of marginal ACC starters and borderline ACC rotation players.
Our coach doesn't seem to have the ability to get effort out of his players nor does he have any grasp of substitution strategy.
This isn't the NBA where you play a ten man rotation. We have *gasp* guys in our rotation who are severe liabilities which means they shouldn't see minutes. 12/6/2008 2:39:59 PM |
ohmy All American 3875 Posts user info edit post |
there's a lot you can blame sidney for. and a lot you can blame our players for. but i don't think you can blame them for not having "heart" like everyone is screaming. they were diving all over the floor all game. they're just not good players. and sidney's not a good coach.
and btw, for the record, i think we'll be ok with lowe in the long run. i think he could do some big things with players like howell, wood, brown, and maybe a wall or favors.
[Edited on December 6, 2008 at 2:56 PM. Reason : ] 12/6/2008 2:46:40 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
FAT MAN HAD HIS CHANCE
GO AWAY SID LET WALL'S HIGH SCHOOL COACH TRY IT
[Edited on December 6, 2008 at 3:01 PM. Reason : HUAHGHUAHUHAUAULAGLG] 12/6/2008 3:01:18 PM |
KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
losing by 5 to a ranked team OMG everyone fucking panic 12/6/2008 3:03:30 PM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
you people 12/6/2008 3:04:45 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
overreact much?...Curry will (and has) do that to alot of really good teams. 12/6/2008 3:07:04 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "From a media standpoint, this shouldn't look so bad because Davidson was favored and curry is good.
From an actual basketball standpoint, davidson and curry are not valid excuses. We were in a great position to win the game but lost it on damn rebounds. Out of all the things a basketball player has to learn, rebounding is the fucking easiest. That's the most shameful part.
When you try to improve anything, you target the thing that will give you the biggest payoff for the effort expended. Focusing on rebounding technique AND rebounding mentality (desire, toughness) should have been an obvious investment of our practice time." |
12/6/2008 3:25:54 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
jeez. some of you are funny. 12/6/2008 3:43:45 PM |
tromboner950 All American 9667 Posts user info edit post |
Sidney's been on notice for me since last season, but I'm not going to call for his head over the Davidson game. It was a good team, and a close game, regardless of what mistakes we made. 12/6/2008 3:51:18 PM |
PackMan03 All American 4594 Posts user info edit post |
Until we can get guards that can play defense, we won't be beating anybody. Javi, Degand, Ferguson, are all too small or too slow against elite guards. 12/6/2008 3:52:55 PM |
OhBoyeee Suspended 2164 Posts user info edit post |
damn this fucking thread will reach page 100 this season. 12/7/2008 12:30:02 PM |
erice85 All American 4549 Posts user info edit post |
This thread being bumped so early in the season is insane and shows how dumb some of you are.
I know several of you probably thought we'd win the ACC, but we are exactly where I thought we'd be after Davidson.
I know you are pissed watching a guy go for 44 against us and that its the coaching staff's fault, but lets remember he goes off like this no matter who he plays 12/7/2008 12:50:20 PM |
OhBoyeee Suspended 2164 Posts user info edit post |
^ he tied his career high you fucking idiot 12/7/2008 12:59:25 PM |
erice85 All American 4549 Posts user info edit post |
^ fuck you moron
Lets look at this SEASON alone
29 33 44 30 39 44
if you THROW IN the ZERO he had, he is still AVG 31.3 PTS PER FUCKING GAME. WITHOUT IT HE IS AVG 36.5 and is the best player in the country, BY FAR.
I suppose we should fire sidney based on losing to the team with the best player in the country, right? Guess everyone in the NBA should be looking for a new job everytime Lebron or Kobe goes off.
SO try again, fuckface
[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 1:03 PM. Reason : .] 12/7/2008 1:02:25 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
not to mention the only reason he went off so bad was because the rest of his team couldn't even get in a layup. 12/7/2008 1:10:11 PM |
OhBoyeee Suspended 2164 Posts user info edit post |
^^ don't make me list all the players who have had career games against us since Lowe started coaching.. you'll be scrolling for a while.
[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 1:10 PM. Reason : x] 12/7/2008 1:10:25 PM |
erice85 All American 4549 Posts user info edit post |
I would be lying if I said I thought Lowe were a great coach.
But at the same time, firing this same old stupid shit up after our season's 5th game is a tad ridiculous. Yeah, it was frustrating as shit to watch him go off, but he goes off on EVERYBODY, not just us. People act like this was David McClure going off for 44, not to the best pure shooter I've ever seen play college ball 12/7/2008 1:13:13 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
^^humor me. 12/7/2008 1:15:40 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
This is the last year we can blame Sendek, right?
Or did he recruit Horner too? We can blame next year on him in that case, right?
*** I kid, I kid. 6 wins in the ACC and I'd be ecstatic. We haven't lost to any god awful UNO type teams this year and we haven't played down to the cupcakes THAT much like last year... That Presbyterian game was downright horrid last year... by far the worst game I ever witnessed a State athletic team play.
[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 1:22 PM. Reason : x] 12/7/2008 1:20:54 PM |
OhBoyeee Suspended 2164 Posts user info edit post |
I posted this in the game thread, it is probably more appropriate in this thread:
In response to: Quote : | ""We have got to correct those mistakes for that statement to be true though." |
This is year three we've been saying this. It's like Amato and penalties. Coach Lowe sucks at coaching. I've not seen any development of the players over the past 2 years. They all still suck asshole. Ben hasn't developed a jump shot, fells hasn't developed any post moves, nobody can hit from behind the arc, etc, etc, etc, etc. Don't get me started on rebounding.. We've been trying to correct these "mistakes" for 2 years. This is year THREE! These are fundamental to successful basketball program. If you think Lowe is a good coach your fucking retarded.
And yes I'm a delusional state fan, but that's because our basketball team sucks ass AGAIN.
[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 1:25 PM. Reason : x]12/7/2008 1:24:20 PM |
Sputter All American 4550 Posts user info edit post |
There's really nothing left to watch.
Maybe the thread title should be "Watch the Clown on the Sidelines Drive Our Program Even Further Into Obscurity." 12/7/2008 1:27:47 PM |
absolutapril All American 8144 Posts user info edit post |
Sputter is right on target 12/7/2008 1:32:12 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
^^I think the thread title should be changed to
"Watch some of NCSU's 'fans', many of whom really don't know what they're talking about but think they do, make fools of themselves on the internet" 12/7/2008 1:42:54 PM |
Sputter All American 4550 Posts user info edit post |
oh man, you are so clever. 12/7/2008 1:44:30 PM |