TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
^related to Parscale:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/cambridge-analytica-umm-actually-we-didnt-work-on-brexit-didnt-use-facebook-data-and-psychographic-voter-analysis-to-help-trump?ref=home
They keep changing their tune. I'm looking for an actual transcript as people on Twitter are reporting the UK MPs were grilling this dude on relationships (business and personal) with Peter Thiel and how they develop their "profiles" on potential voters. 2/27/2018 12:44:37 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/27/politics/jared-kushner-manipulation-mexico-israel-china-uae/index.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/u-s-intel-russia-compromised-seven-states-prior-2016-election-n850296
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/27/trump-russia-meddling-mike-rogers
[Edited on February 27, 2018 at 6:53 PM. Reason : a] 2/27/2018 6:43:31 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/27/politics/trump-russia-investigation/index.html
[Edited on February 27, 2018 at 8:51 PM. Reason : a] 2/27/2018 8:46:19 PM |
ScubaSteve All American 5523 Posts user info edit post |
To believe something is going to go down you have to believe Trump was telling the truth that previous business was outside the scope of the Mueller investigation and even if he was telling the truth.. his wranglers or the last person he talked to would just change his stance on that statement and any action he may have considered to stop the investigation.
[Edited on February 27, 2018 at 9:27 PM. Reason : .] 2/27/2018 9:20:29 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
I'm more intrigued by the fact that Mueller is asking questions that pretty much cover literally all of the rest of the dossier.
Quote : | "A second area of focus was what happened during the event. The source said questions also focused on meetings Trump had with Russian business people or government officials, leading the source to believe the investigators were probing the possibility of "kompromat," or compromising material, on Trump.
Along these lines, the source said, investigators were interested in logistics surrounding Trump's hotel room in Moscow: Who was there? Who would have access to it? Who was in charge of security? Who was moving around with him during the trip?" |
[Edited on February 27, 2018 at 9:28 PM. Reason : a]2/27/2018 9:27:21 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli/the-mysterious-professor-at-the-center-of-the-russia-trump?utm_term=.unEJZJxyR#.xe4RLRKN0 2/27/2018 11:38:49 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
That story is all sorts of shady.
Quote : | "[Mifsud’s] biography disappeared from one university where he taught and he quit his job at another university. His email and cell phones went dead. And politicians, colleagues, and journalists can't find him.
Neither can Anna, his 31-year-old Ukrainian fiancé, who says he is the father of her newborn child...
“He said, ‘I have dinner with Lavrov tonight. Lavrov is my friend. Lavrov this, Lavrov that...’”
In a series of WhatsApp messages sent in May 2017, Mifsud also told Anna he was in Saudi Arabia at the same time as President Donald Trump’s visit, and in Sicily, Italy, for the G7 Summit..." |
2/28/2018 12:07:13 AM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/27/politics/trump-russia-investigation/index.html Pretty sad that the digging has gone all the way back to 2013. Really just swinging in the dark trying to find "collusion" from before Trump even knew he was running. If everything is fair game, of course they will find what they are looking for because Trump is a sleezy ny businessman. We've all always known that.
Theres just no way miss universe 2013 is connected to the 2016 election.
[Edited on February 28, 2018 at 12:34 AM. Reason : we've been in joker here.we.go. mode for months now and the topic of inv keeps changing] 2/28/2018 12:17:23 AM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
I believe that this may be the most relevant Seth Abramson thread to the CNN story, for anyone who’s interested:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/903693399114612736.html 2/28/2018 12:33:29 AM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
^^peepee tape happened in 2013 according to the dossier. "Investigating business dealings" is just polite code for "we have the peepee tape, it is real." 2/28/2018 6:16:25 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Peetape aside, obviously having laundered money for Russians or having undisclosed debt is a massive security problem and makes the president susceptible to blackmail and manipulation. But Earl knows that.
[Edited on February 28, 2018 at 7:26 AM. Reason : Not to mention there is recent precedent to following the trail wherever it goes] 2/28/2018 7:25:41 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
The dossier says the Russians have cultivated Trump for at least 5 years. Going back to 2013 makes perfect sense. 2/28/2018 7:36:32 AM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
earl gonna earl 2/28/2018 9:18:34 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^at risk of trusting a series of 700 tweets instead of a goddamned article like a normal person (seriously he needs to stop this Twitter shit), that is a fascinating read. 2/28/2018 11:20:09 AM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
^it's also bullshit conspiracy theory.
Quote : | "28/ Don't fall for Team Trump's trick of acting like Trump decided to run for president on the *day he announced*. He decided in *mid-2013*." |
Trump dabbled in running for president with the Reform party back in 1999, and he established inroads to run for president well before 2013. But that doesn't fit the narrative.2/28/2018 12:57:45 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
trump started talking about a run for president in the late 80's (which was also after discussing a russian hotel deal and right before buying an ad criticizing foreign policy), and his reform party run coincides with russian real estate deals in florida 2/28/2018 1:08:30 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
eleusis is our TSB treasure. 2/28/2018 1:24:15 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
"There's nothing in the Democratic memo to indicate... that the intent of the FISA warrant wasn't to spy on the Trump Campaign," wants to talk about bullshit conspiracy theories. 2/28/2018 1:25:56 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Tbf, in this case he’s right. Of course Trump made the opposite point on twitter claiming he didn’t decide until after Russia started its influence campaign but he had been making inroads and preparing for years.
Also, he’s right IMO to be wary of Abramson.
(And that’s all I’ll defend him on) 2/28/2018 1:29:55 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^
[Edited on February 28, 2018 at 1:52 PM. Reason : a] 2/28/2018 1:30:25 PM |
Cabbage All American 2087 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Trump dabbled in running for president with the Reform party back in 1999, and he established inroads to run for president well before 2013. But that doesn't fit the narrative." |
Seems to me that means it's not inconsistent with Abramson's narrative but that it IS inconsistent with Trump's narrative.2/28/2018 2:25:09 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
The narrative is that he chose THIS election SPECIFICALLY to run after the interactions with Russian businessmen and intelligence agents. The evidence, thus far, supports this narrative from a logical standpoint. It still remains to be proven but there is no inconsistency simply because he chose to commit treason now as opposed to 10 years ago.
[Edited on February 28, 2018 at 3:17 PM. Reason : a] 2/28/2018 3:16:57 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/mueller-asking-what-trump-knew-about-hacked-emails-n851941 2/28/2018 3:50:29 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/28/politics/hope-hicks-white-house/index.html
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-kushner/new-york-regulator-asks-deutsche-other-banks-about-kushner-loans-source-idUSKCN1GC2UF
[Edited on February 28, 2018 at 4:52 PM. Reason : a] 2/28/2018 4:48:01 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Jesus it is flooding in today.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-investigation-examining-trumps-apparent-efforts-to-oust-sessions-in-july/2018/02/28/909cfa7c-1cd7-11e8-b2d9-08e748f892c0_story.html?utm_term=.324d394c3e7c
https://meduza.io/en/news/2018/02/28/two-sex-workers-at-the-center-of-russiagate-allegations-against-a-top-moscow-official-request-u-s-asylum-saying-their-lives-are-in-danger 2/28/2018 7:23:12 PM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
Lots of bad news for Trump today. They’re dropping like flies out there. I think Muellers approach is to slowly and methodically separate him from the people close to him, pile up indictments, and hopefully present enough evidence of collusion(treason) that congress will have to impeach. 2/28/2018 7:54:42 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
another way of looking at it is Mueller throwing darts at a wall to justify an investigation that is getting shit on by congress. 2/28/2018 8:11:29 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
It could also be aliens. 2/28/2018 8:26:14 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
The important thing is that Trump kicked crooked Hillary's ass in the electoral college. 2/28/2018 9:52:27 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Remember the Warner texts that Assange was trying to give Hannity? Well Devin Nunes leaked them to Fox News according to Richard Burr per the NYT. How he got them? Don’t know..
Paul Ryan seriously needs to make a change. Nunes is out of control.
[Edited on March 1, 2018 at 12:02 PM. Reason : Lolwut, they got them from the Senate committee Warner is a part of and approved] 3/1/2018 11:58:33 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Leaking is happening on both sides so I won't think of this as some evil thing Nunes has done.
He's already done enough to convince me he's a piece of shit. 3/1/2018 12:07:12 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Leaking to undermine a separate investigation completely under the guise of using it as part of your investigation is actually not happening from both sides.
Nunes was on the transition and the ONLY thing I can possibly think at this point is he is trying some major league self-preservation. For what? Who knows.. 3/1/2018 12:12:08 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
are you talking about the texts that rubio said were a non-issue or are there new texts? 3/1/2018 12:16:14 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Those texts. Because the Senate has guys who are actually interested in oversight and not complete hacks Rubio and Burr (both of whom I don’t like) rightfully stood up for Warner.
Nunes underestimated them. And for the love of God why does the media consistently give Paul Ryan a free pass for being a gutless, ineffective coward of a leader. 3/1/2018 12:18:50 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Nunes was on the transition and the ONLY thing I can possibly think at this point is he is trying some major league self-preservation. For what? Who knows.." |
I am leaning towards this as well.3/1/2018 12:37:00 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
Im also seeing people speculating those texts were what Assange was referencing when he DMed that Hannitty impersonator that he "had info on Warner." About a week before Fox News published its article.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/julian-assange-thought-he-was-messaging-sean-hannity-when-he-offered-news-on-democrat-investigating-trump-russia
So Nunes was either leaking them to everyone or he leaked them to Assange who then sent them to Fox News to help cover his tracks. 3/1/2018 2:00:38 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/01/us/politics/senate-intelligence-nunes-leaks.html?referer=https://www.google.com/ 3/1/2018 3:20:55 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/01/politics/ivanka-trump-fbi-investigation/index.html
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/376349-mueller-preparing-charges-against-russians-who-hacked-leaked
[Edited on March 1, 2018 at 6:48 PM. Reason : a] 3/1/2018 6:41:58 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
This is the guy they're talking about replacing McMasters: https://www.usrf.us/staff/stephen-e-biegun/
Kind of comical at this point, though this guy was suggested by Rice so my guess is it's an attempt to get someone who really knows Russia into the decision making circle. 3/1/2018 7:14:27 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/01/us/politics/justice-dept-andrew-mccabe.html
Great damn writing this season. What a plot twist. 3/1/2018 7:33:43 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
hopefully eleusis is doing okay 3/1/2018 8:12:40 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
That is amazing. 3/1/2018 8:16:40 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
Can someone explain why that is important? 3/1/2018 9:12:43 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
No. Figure it out. 3/1/2018 9:39:49 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
it's important because the NYT is preemptively trying to lessen the blow about what the IG report is actually going to say about McCabe. if he leaked to the media once, then he likely did so multiple times. 3/2/2018 12:50:17 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
ahahaha 3/2/2018 5:24:47 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
off his rockers 3/2/2018 8:21:00 AM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
Guys, we all know that the IG report is going to say that Andrew McCabe is a total Obama toady. Otherwise, we’ll all know that the IG is a total Obama toady. 3/2/2018 11:26:04 AM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
looking into Kushner and Ivanka's business dealings. Bout to get good *popcorn*
[Edited on March 2, 2018 at 3:31 PM. Reason : also, why no irate tweets directed at Putin after his Nuclear comments?] 3/2/2018 3:30:43 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-ukraine-gas/gazprom-seeks-to-halt-ukraine-gas-contracts-as-dispute-escalates-idUSKCN1GE2DW 3/2/2018 3:56:27 PM |