EMCE balls deep 89759 Posts user info edit post |
In the wake of this DOJ report:
The judge has stepped down The city manager has stepped down 3/10/2015 9:21:12 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41752 Posts user info edit post |
The judge should be prosecuted for tax evasion if it is found there is no good reason for his 170k tax lien.
He was the main one running the debtors prison. 3/10/2015 9:39:13 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89759 Posts user info edit post |
The Ferguson police chief is going to resign today. 3/11/2015 3:24:13 PM |
moron All American 34083 Posts user info edit post |
I'm pretty pleased with this outcome. 3/11/2015 4:49:53 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
I too am pleased with recent developments. But given the DOJ's findings, I feel more anger about the lack of indictment handed down against Darren Wilson. He was part of a system of systematic racism.
Also all these resignations are people saving face, no real punishments have been dished out other than embarrassment by being named in the report. 3/11/2015 4:53:04 PM |
moron All American 34083 Posts user info edit post |
I understand that, but the absence of any video/picture evidence would make it hard to prosecute Wilson, it would really be the credibility of the witnesses vs. a police officer, and the police would win every time.
I also think it was a "trade off" the DOJ made, so that detractors couldn't accuse them of bias as much. They go easy on Wilson, to gain the credibility in the eye of the public on the report of the broader issues. Fox News couldn't say "Obama's DOJ and Eric Holder just hate white people!" because someone could say "if that's true, why let Wilson off?".
There was a point in time where the DOJ wouldn't have been accused of playing the "race card" for a report like this, but unfortunately that's not the world we live in anymore. I don't hold this strategy against them. 3/11/2015 5:04:57 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
two cops just got shot outside the ferguson police department 3/12/2015 2:45:40 AM |
moron All American 34083 Posts user info edit post |
Hopefully they are okay, and they catch the guy that shot them. 3/12/2015 3:00:07 AM |
EMCE balls deep 89759 Posts user info edit post |
omg, no 3/12/2015 6:06:07 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Omg, karma is a bitch.
Oppressive police force, meet oppressed people.
[Edited on March 12, 2015 at 6:53 AM. Reason : .] 3/12/2015 6:33:15 AM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
while BlackJesus makes stupid rationalizations(again), the cops reportedly weren't even Ferguson Police.
Also, the fact that you and others think that way is sickening. We're oppressed? Oh lets go shoot at police officers, that will change our fortunes for the better!!! On a week night instead of going to bed and going to work the next morning and earning an honest wage? Oh hell yeah, lets go protest and shoot cops, that will make them take us seriously!
[Edited on March 12, 2015 at 7:58 AM. Reason : sdf] 3/12/2015 7:48:49 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
What did you think would happen when the DOJ essentially came out and said "Ferguson police are racist, here's the proof".
Quote : | "Oh lets go shoot at police officers, that will change our fortunes for the better!!! On a week night instead of going to bed and going to work the next morning and earning an honest wage?" |
Nope no one can stay up late and make it to work in the morning.
Quote : | "Oh hell yeah, lets go protest and shoot cops, that will make them take us seriously!" |
They shot 2 cops, you damn right they are now taking them seriously.3/12/2015 7:59:29 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
smh] 3/12/2015 9:17:38 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Police advocates: Ambush shooting in Ferguson is part of a disturbing trend" |
So is this
http://gawker.com/unarmed-people-of-color-killed-by-police-1999-2014-16666723493/12/2015 2:10:24 PM |
rjrumfel All American 22996 Posts user info edit post |
I feel that our government is oppressive. Would that make it ok for me to go around and shoot government officials? 3/12/2015 2:14:44 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
isn't that the justification everyone uses for why they are allowed to own guns? 3/12/2015 2:15:38 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
lol, no. The justification is that its part of their constitutional rights to own a weapon. Its not your constitutional right to go around shooting people. Good grief. 3/12/2015 2:17:25 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Yep, "I need to have guns because criminals have guns..etc etc etc"
^That goes both ways. Cops are ready to play soldier until someone shoots back.
Don't bitch about cops getting shot, when I can assure you the number of innocents gunned down by police far outnumbers the number of police "ambush" shootings.
[Edited on March 12, 2015 at 2:20 PM. Reason : ,] 3/12/2015 2:17:55 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
quit being a pussy and just say youre glad they were shot
jesus 3/12/2015 2:29:09 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Black Lives Matter y0willy0 3/12/2015 2:31:11 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
3/12/2015 2:31:42 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ol, no. The justification is that its part of their constitutional rights to own a weapon. Its not your constitutional right to go around shooting people. Good grief." |
no, literally people in the soap box say that the reason they need guns is because guns are the check on government power. it's not a rare opinion.3/12/2015 2:32:18 PM |
rjrumfel All American 22996 Posts user info edit post |
People say that are arguing the intent of the second amendment. Obviously that doesn't hold true today. 3/12/2015 2:38:11 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
So we still haven't figured out the original and primary purpose of the second amendment? I thought the writers of the bill of rights were pretty clear. 3/12/2015 2:38:18 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
^^^which soap box posters said that? what did they say after you mentioned they dont have tanks and helicopters?
[Edited on March 12, 2015 at 2:39 PM. Reason : -] 3/12/2015 2:38:46 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
At the time that document was written people would stand in line and take turns shooting at each other....
Our military crushed Iraq in 21 days, do you think your hunting rifle is gonna save you from the big bad gubment. 3/12/2015 2:40:07 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "no, literally people in the soap box say that the reason they need guns is because guns are the check on government power. it's not a rare opinion." |
And you interpret that to mean that those users support random shooting of government officials?
I don't think that works how you think it works.3/12/2015 2:40:54 PM |
rjrumfel All American 22996 Posts user info edit post |
Let's get back on the subject here...that BlackJesus honestly thinks it is ok to shoot cops, and that they deserve it. 3/12/2015 2:41:03 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Let's get back on the subject here...that BlackJesus honestly thinks it is ok to shoot cops, and that they deserve it." |
Where did I say that?3/12/2015 2:43:37 PM |
rjrumfel All American 22996 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Omg, karma is a bitch." |
3/12/2015 2:52:14 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
#Stupid
Karma - in Hinduism and Buddhism) the sum of a person's actions in this and previous states of existence, viewed as deciding their fate in future existences. informal destiny or fate, following as effect from cause.
[Edited on March 12, 2015 at 2:54 PM. Reason : .] 3/12/2015 2:53:11 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^^which soap box posters said that? what did they say after you mentioned they dont have tanks and helicopters?" |
might have been neuserivrrat or whatever his name is? He was asked what federal target he would attack first but never answered.
[Edited on March 12, 2015 at 2:59 PM. Reason : .]3/12/2015 2:59:09 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39236 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I feel that our government is oppressive." |
people who say this on a regular basis should be given plane tickets to a country that actually has an oppressive government and live there for a year3/12/2015 2:59:35 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
people who think it's not true for anyone in the US should move to a neighborhood where they get patted down frequently and walk under surveillance towers 3/12/2015 3:01:05 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
lets just say blackjesus doesnt have a problem with cops being shot, but doesnt advocate it either 3/12/2015 3:02:32 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
i don't support anyone shooting cops, but frankly I'm amazed that it doesn't happen more often by people who are tired of their shit 3/12/2015 3:03:28 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39236 Posts user info edit post |
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that a fair amount of people who complain about our government being oppressive don't live in neighborhoods like that 3/12/2015 3:03:37 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
I'm done commenting with BlackJesus. Its hard to banter with someone who is so irrational. But hey, continue making excuses for people that don't want to follow the rules BlackJesus. 3/12/2015 3:06:46 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm done commenting with BlackJesus. Its hard to banter with someone who is so irrational. But hey, continue making excuses for people that don't want to follow the rules BlackJesus." |
I'm done commenting with BlackJesus, follows it up with a comment for BlackJesus3/12/2015 3:08:16 PM |
rjrumfel All American 22996 Posts user info edit post |
he has become the new terpball 3/12/2015 3:09:09 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "people who think it's not true for anyone in the US should move to a neighborhood where they get patted down frequently and walk under surveillance towers" |
Or try being black and living in a community with a racist police force, that feeds off revenue generated by abusing poor black people. A white that has never had a negative encounter with cops will NEVER understand the issue here.3/12/2015 3:14:03 PM |
rjrumfel All American 22996 Posts user info edit post |
Every time I've gotten a ticket...I would consider that negative.
Sure, I didn't get shot. But I also didn't jump out of my car and charge the cop. 3/12/2015 3:16:50 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/03/politics/justice-report-ferguson-discrimination/
Read the report. 105 pages of systematic discrimination against African Americans. By all means continue being an oblivious white person. 3/12/2015 3:19:08 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
^ What were the things that really jumped out at you when you read the report? 3/12/2015 3:24:56 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
he probably first noticed the authors were white, so the report isnt worth shit 3/12/2015 3:30:38 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
^ You're not helping.
When the news articles first came out they claimed systemic discrimination, but the official report was yet to be released and everything they cited (that I saw) could easily be dismissed as correlation rather than causation. I have not had a chance to read the report since it was released, so I'm genuinely curious to get the opinion of someone who has read it.
[Edited on March 12, 2015 at 3:34 PM. Reason : l] 3/12/2015 3:32:39 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Page 19 for example.
"FPD Engages in a Pattern of Unconstitutional Stops and Arrests in Violation of the Fourth Amendment"
Page 75
Cops cracking racist jokes in emails.
Page 45
Municipal court doesn't care about justice, just revenue.
Just take sometime and read it, and maybe you will understand why these people are going bat shit crazy. 3/12/2015 3:35:27 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39236 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Every time I've gotten a ticket...I would consider that negative.
Sure, I didn't get shot. But I also didn't jump out of my car and charge the cop." |
what kind of argument are you trying to make here?3/12/2015 3:40:15 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
While I'm at it page 22
FPD Officers routinely Abuse the "Failure to Comply" Charge
Sorta like the Mike Brown alleged refusal to comply with the order to get out the road. 3/12/2015 3:43:26 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
Hey BJ, nobody here is arguing these things didn't happen in Ferguson. I think the disconnect here is you're surprised anyone gives a shit about two cops getting shot.
You had a similar (shitty) reaction when those two cops got executed in NYC. I don't think it's unreasonable to say a normal person feels badly about any human death.
If you want to be the resident Malcolm X you should speak more plainly and quit beating around the bush. 3/12/2015 3:57:07 PM |