Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/politics/wp/2018/02/22/no-a-new-court-filing-doesnt-suggest-that-michael-flynn-is-about-to-be-exonerated/ 3/2/2018 8:02:02 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/03/us/politics/george-nader-mueller-investigation-united-arab-emirates.html 3/3/2018 11:31:16 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.axios.com/robert-muller-questions-list-trump-russia-54d00d1c-f008-457c-b304-ee601a98d78c.html
Quote : | "Mueller is subpoenaing all communications — meaning emails, texts, handwritten notes, etc. — that this witness sent and received regarding the following people:
Carter Page Corey Lewandowski Donald J. Trump Hope Hicks Keith Schiller Michael Cohen Paul Manafort Rick Gates Roger Stone Steve Bannon
The subpoena asks for all communications from November 1, 2015, to the present. Notably, Trump announced his campaign for president five months earlier — on June 16, 2015." |
Any guesses as to whom the witness may be? I’m currently thinking that it had to be Jeff Sessions.
Also, I haven’t read this entire piece, yet.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/12/christopher-steele-the-man-behind-the-trump-dossier
However, here’s an excerpt:
Quote : | "One subject that Steele is believed to have discussed with Mueller’s investigators is a memo that he wrote in late November, 2016, after his contract with Fusion had ended. This memo, which did not surface publicly with the others, is shorter than the rest, and is based on one source, described as ‘a senior Russian official.’ The official said that he was merely relaying talk circulating in the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, but what he’d heard was astonishing: people were saying that the Kremlin had intervened to block Trump’s initial choice for Secretary of State, Mitt Romney. (During Romney’s run for the White House in 2012, he was notably hawkish on Russia, calling it the single greatest threat to the U.S.) The memo said that the Kremlin, through unspecified channels, had asked Trump to appoint someone who would be prepared to lift Ukraine-related sanctions, and who would coöperate on security issues of interest to Russia, such as the conflict in Syria. If what the source heard was true, then a foreign power was exercising pivotal influence over U.S. foreign policy—and an incoming President." |
[Edited on March 5, 2018 at 10:49 AM. Reason : ]3/5/2018 10:48:23 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
That should just about do it if there is any paper trail with it. 3/5/2018 11:18:01 AM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
there was no collusion guys 3/5/2018 11:51:43 AM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
If it is Sessions, and if it's anything like his previous testimonies he'll either not be able to remember/recall his email password or just invoke 'future executive privilege'. 3/5/2018 11:55:52 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
^^ what’s so funny to me is that Don Jr already admitted to colluding to attempt to get information on Clinton during the campaign. I mean, he admitted it. It’s bizarre anyone lets any Trump say “no collusion.”
It’s not treason or even illegal I don’t think but it is absolutely collusion. 3/5/2018 12:10:25 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
it's a crime, it's criminal conspiracy if they colluded
[Edited on March 5, 2018 at 12:18 PM. Reason : (and obstruction and perjury)] 3/5/2018 12:18:11 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Is there a legal difference between intent and result? I have no idea... 3/5/2018 12:23:24 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
only at sentencing.
If you attempt to rob a bank and fail, you still committed a felony.
It's definitely treason in the spirit of the word.
[Edited on March 5, 2018 at 12:54 PM. Reason : a] 3/5/2018 12:53:48 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/05/world/asia/nastya-rybka-trump-putin.html
New character!
(It is and will never be treason as defined by law) 3/5/2018 12:59:05 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
correct 3/5/2018 1:01:58 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
man, this movie has so many new turns, i can't wait to find out how it ends 3/5/2018 1:21:02 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "people were saying that the Kremlin had intervened to block Trump’s initial choice for Secretary of State, Mitt Romney." |
How can anyone believe the Trump would appoint Mitt Romney to anything after Romney delivered a 15 minute long speech berating Trump in the middle of the 2016 primaries? It seems a lot more plausible that Trump dangled the position in front of Romney only to humiliate him, as that seems to be his modus operandi.
Quote : | "Any guesses as to whom the witness may be? I’m currently thinking that it had to be Jeff Sessions." |
That timeline seems early for involving Sessions, Flynn, or Christie. The article makes it sound like the person that received the subpoena willingly turned it over to Axios for reporting, which discredits my initial thoughts of Kushner and DJT Jr. Katrina Pierson could be a likely candidate, as she officially joined the campaign in November 2015 and likely wouldn't stand anything to lose from the national exposure of leaking the subpoena.3/5/2018 1:26:51 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "which discredits my initial thoughts" |
GO ON...3/5/2018 1:44:59 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How can anyone believe the Trump would appoint Mitt Romney to anything" |
lol
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/306648-trump-considering-romney-for-secretary-of-state-nbc
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/19/politics/mitt-romney-donald-trump-utah/index.html
As for who the witness is, it's probably someone we don't know about, a staffer or something to that effect.
No way Flynn is jeopardizing his plea deal by leaking shit like this. I highly doubt it's Sessions, though I could be weong.
Maybe it's Nunes lol.
[Edited on March 5, 2018 at 2:13 PM. Reason : Nunes]3/5/2018 2:08:06 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
he's saying it was never a serious offer, trump just dangled that to embarrass romney
this is totally possible, and this person could be entirely making things up about the recordings to get amnesty in the US
or it could be true 3/5/2018 2:09:51 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
No way to know what Trump is serious about or not serious about because he's always lying. Mueller will figure it out. 3/5/2018 2:14:12 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Or it’s this guy who is so totally innocent he is willing to go to jail for ignoring subpoenas.
Quote : | ""Let him arrest me." Former Trump aide Sam Nunberg called before grand jury, says he will refuse to go or turn over documents. Nunberg said he was planning to go on TV and rip up the subpoena." |
[Edited on March 5, 2018 at 2:46 PM. Reason : Only the best people. Papadapolous, Page and Nunberg are certainly something ]3/5/2018 2:45:23 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Good lord what an idiot. 3/5/2018 2:49:02 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
This guy is bananas. 3/5/2018 2:58:39 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
Apparently, Sam Nunberg was released from the Donald Trump presidential campaign on August 2, 2015. 3/5/2018 3:07:08 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
Sam Clovis joined the campaign on August 25, 2015.
[Edited on March 5, 2018 at 3:25 PM. Reason : ] 3/5/2018 3:16:19 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
The New Yorker article is a great read. 3/5/2018 4:47:16 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Cocaine is one hell of a drug 3/5/2018 6:39:31 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
dafuq is a sex coach? todays episode was strange. new writer? 3/5/2018 6:51:11 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
i had just assumed it meant prostitute but maybe it's something like greg's mom in meet the fockers
also, looks like nunberg leaked the subpoena
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/05/politics/sam-nunberg-robert-mueller/index.html
also lol: https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/05/politics/michael-cohen-stormy-daniels/index.html
[Edited on March 5, 2018 at 7:09 PM. Reason : a] 3/5/2018 7:08:13 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Nunberg/Page 2020 3/5/2018 7:26:08 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Nunberg saying Trump might have done something during the election.
Reports from Cohen associates out now saying Cohen was never reimbursed for the payment to Stormy Daniels.
The thing I don’t like about that thread is that If they can prove Cohen made the payment as part of their election strategy, that’s a campaign finance violation, which is its whole own investigation, possibly delaying the main obstruction of justice investigation. 3/5/2018 8:35:02 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
I think the payoff is only a violation if it used campaign funds. But I could absolutely be wrong. And in fact, if Cohen is complaining he wasn't reimbursed then:
1) Cohen paid with his own money 2) Cohen was not reimbursed with campaign money
[Edited on March 5, 2018 at 8:53 PM. Reason : a] 3/5/2018 8:52:51 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
You are in fact wrong. Think about the loophole that would create... the campaign would be able to coordinate unlimited spending as long as the spender doesn’t actually Donate money. Citizens united requires no coordination which obviously happens anyway.
But this is what John Edwards was indicted for too, but they couldn’t prove in trial the payments to his mistress were part of the political strategy, so at worst Cohen and trump are looking at a slap on the wrist for this legally, likely no impact on trump’s 30-40% base. 3/5/2018 9:03:55 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
CNN called out Nunberg for reeking of alcohol during his interview. his response is that he's taking antidepressants. Now his response to the Mueller subpoena makes a little more sense. 3/5/2018 10:26:54 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
put him on tv ask questions later. real journalistic integrity 3/5/2018 10:31:09 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
I think he volunteered 3/5/2018 11:00:24 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/filing-reports/in-kind-contributions/
You're right. I was thrown off by the word "contribution" since the money didn't go to the campaign. But it's Cohen's act that is considered the contribution to Trump. 3/5/2018 11:03:26 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ did you even watch the MSNBC interview? You know, the one where Ari Melber and other legal experts tried to help him by giving actual, legitimate legal advice? 3/6/2018 12:12:21 AM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
no. i only saw two of the cnn ones.
which also brings up how he went on tv and answered questions for 8 hours about how he's not willing to sit down and answer questions about it for 8 hours. 3/6/2018 12:17:46 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Clearly he was on some type of bender. He kept repeating the same nonsensical lines over and over again. 3/6/2018 12:24:59 AM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
which is why i'm saying it was unethical to throw him on tv. 3/6/2018 12:26:12 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
He went out of his way to flout a fucking FBI subpoena on national TV. It was unprecedented, and people were actually trying to help. You're the worst. 3/6/2018 12:27:51 AM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "people were actually trying to help ratings" |
3/6/2018 12:36:20 AM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
^^do you think Jerry Springer is just trying to help people too? 3/6/2018 5:59:44 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "which also brings up how he went on tv and answered questions for 8 hours about how he's not willing to sit down and answer questions about it for 8 hours" |
lol I thought this too3/6/2018 7:07:12 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
JFC, are we really going down the ethical media rabbit hole? After a full year of the media disseminating hacked and stolen emails?
If it’s news (and both this lunatic and EMAILS!!!!!! clearly were) it will be aired. Period. This guy is a 40 year old lawyer, not a toddler. 3/6/2018 7:26:20 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
http://time.com/5187176/sam-nunberg-trump-robert-mueller/
Quote : | "Former Trump Campaign Aide Now Says He'll Likely Cooperate With the Russia Probe" |
3/6/2018 7:47:34 AM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
Seriously, who needs House of Cards when you have this? 3/6/2018 8:04:16 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
only difference is spacey was forced to resign for sexual assault whereas Trump gets to stay 3/6/2018 8:46:48 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
So it was all basically a Roger Stone like stunt I guess. Good for Nunberg? 3/6/2018 9:53:17 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
It’s cute to see earl adn eulises clamoring to get this racist substance abuser a safe space since he can’t protect himself from himself.
^ No
[Edited on March 6, 2018 at 10:02 AM. Reason : .] 3/6/2018 10:01:23 AM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/taibbi-russiagate-trump-putin-mueller-and-targeting-dissent-w517486 3/6/2018 4:11:45 PM |