aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
greeeeaaat. posting from al-jazeera. the bastion of truth in journalism... 7/31/2005 5:11:34 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1688013,00.html
Quote : | "Netanyahu warns West it must halt Iran nuclear plans THE Israeli finance minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, has warned that the West must do more to counter Iran’s potential nuclear threat following the election last month of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the hardline mayor of Tehran, as president of the country.
Netanyahu, in London to address a conference, said concerted action was required to rein in Iran, not least because of its links with Islamic terrorist groups such as Hezbollah and Hamas. He said he wanted the shipment of Russian nuclear equipment and nuclear fuel to a plant under construction at Bushehr to be stopped.
“The Iranian regime supports terror, both ideologically and operationally,” he said. “I think the regime will go as fast as it can to develop nuclear weapons, regardless of who leads it.”" |
The Zionists having the Western nations fight wars for them?! That's unheard of!!
Oh, and the "plant" under construction is a nuclear power plant. The horror. Nevermind that...the Zionists want Americans, English, and Iranians to kill themselves in another war.8/4/2005 11:01:46 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
That was better. The first half of your post was an actual news article with a high degree of credibility.
Unfortunately you ruined this with stupid rantings and unproven speculation. Please grow up. 8/4/2005 11:04:08 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Who is sending our children off to die in war? --- ZIONISM http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/offtowar.html
FLASHBACK...
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/11577p-10983c.html
Quote : | "Attack Iraq soon, Sharon aide says By RICHARD SISK DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU WASHINGTON - The United States should attack Iraq soon to stop dictator Saddam Hussein from developing nuclear weapons, Israeli officials said yesterday." |
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/08/18/world/main519037.shtml
Quote : | "Israel to U.S.: Don't Delay Iraq Attack
(CBS) Israel is urging U.S. officials not to delay a military strike against Iraq's Saddam Hussein, an aide to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said Friday.
Israeli intelligence officials have gathered evidence that Iraq is speeding up efforts to produce biological and chemical weapons, said Sharon aide Ranaan Gissin. " |
8/4/2005 11:23:09 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
How does Israel voicing its opinion show that it controls world events? Why is it surprising that Israel would dislike Saddam Hussein? You don't think that most Israelis were fairly mad at him for firing SCUDs at them in 1991? This is no secret. Unfortunately for you, it does nothing to prove a relationship between Israel and US military policy.
Once again, you've shown a fact, and then used it as the basis for wild speculation that doesn't hold up at all under the slightest scrutiny. Please stop. 8/4/2005 11:32:50 AM |
potpot All American 641 Posts user info edit post |
USA gives Isreal 5 Billion a year in aid. They can only spend this money on US made weapons and related war materials. 8/4/2005 12:13:25 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
i heard yesterday on bbc or something that it was the british who originally gave israelnuclear materials and secrets, not the united states. we were going to give them material for civil nuclear technology but they would not promise not to develop nuclear weapons. the british gave them the stuff anyway. not that this has to do with iran. but it seems this has devolved into a thread about israel and the us relations in general. 8/4/2005 12:25:45 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Excellent article with many imbedded links...
Israel, Mossad, Iran and a Nuclear False Flag Attack http://www.physics911.net/nuclearfalseflagdraft.htm
Quote : | "On April 18th of 2005, I released a public advisory, reproduced below, regarding the danger of a faked nuclear attack on America, to be staged by rogue British, American and Israeli Mossad operatives, assisted by select criminal, compromised, drug-addicted or mind-controlled "Muslim" patsies and designed to support a global war against Iran and Islam. With Congress in recess and Bush on vacation, the exact conditions preceeding the 9/11 attacks are now being replicated. The attack would also be used to further legitimate the building of the genocidal wall in Jerusalem and possibly even an expansion of, rather than a pullout from, the settlements in Gaza and the West Bank in furtherance of total Israeli dominance in the Middle East. The attack would be aided by Israeli partisans in the United States, and will be stage-managed in the Congress by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, and its attendant PR firms and media empires. As a descendant of Russian Jews, I consider it a particularly important civic responsibility to expose the deception and danger of Zionism and its terrorist agency, the Mossad, who will probably furnish the patsies. The Mossad is a leading candidate for architect of the 9/11 attacks." |
8/5/2005 11:25:14 PM |
moop Veteran 396 Posts user info edit post |
nevermind
[Edited on August 6, 2005 at 1:33 AM. Reason : :-] 8/6/2005 1:32:58 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "With Congress in recess and Bush on vacation, the exact conditions preceeding the 9/11 attacks are now being replicated." |
Congress in recess and Bush on vacation at the same time?!?!?!? OMG!!! Conspiracy!!!
Quote : | "Fortunately, due to the heroic efforts of the alternative media, the London bombings have now been exposed as another terrorist exercise gone live by executive New World Order. We have now seen two terrorist attacks masked by what are called drills: 9/11 and 7/7. When is the next terrorist attack drill slated for the USA?
This August." |
So if there isn't a horrific terror attack in the next four weeks will you stop posting this nonsense?8/6/2005 2:59:40 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/080605Leopold/080605leopold.html
Quote : | "Halliburton secretly doing business with key member of Iran's nuclear team
August 6, 2005— Scandal-plagued Halliburton, the oil services company once headed by Vice President Dick Cheney, was secretly working with one of Iran's top nuclear program officials on natural gas related projects and, allegedly, selling the official's oil development company key components for a nuclear reactor, according to Halliburton sources with intimate knowledge into both companies' business dealings." |
See how this works? If the globalists don't have an enemy, they have to manufacture one. If they don't have the grounds to justify a war, they produce them (or fabricate them).8/6/2005 3:20:10 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If the globalists don't have an enemy, they have to manufacture one. If they don't have the grounds to justify a war, they produce them (or fabricate them)." |
That might be true, although the fact that you're presupposing the existance of some shadowy globalist conspiracy destroys the credibility of such a statement. In all of your posts you have yet to supply sufficient proof of the globalists, in fact you haven't provided very much evidence at all. Your entire belief structure is based on an unfounded idea. Your logic is akin to the logic of primitive peoples who attributed any precipitation to an unseen rain god that they believed in without question.
Supposing that they do exist, why endanger the entire plot selling parts to the Iranians when they could just as easily make up intelligence regarding their nuclear program?8/6/2005 9:27:36 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
http://jewishworldreview.com/0805/jkelly080805.php3
Quote : | "Is Iran our new target? Intelligence seems to say so
NBC's Jim Miklaszewski provided a hint in a broadcast Thursday: "U.S. military and intelligence officials tell NBC News that American soldiers intercepted a large shipment of high explosives, smuggled into northeastern Iraq from Iran only last week.
...
The reporter's amazement was a product of the same blindness that declared there could be no cooperation between Saddam Hussein and al Qaida, because the latter were religious fanatics who disliked Saddam because he was secular.
...
But Ledeen is right that Iranian support for the insurgency in Iraq is old news. I've heard dozens of such reports in the last two years. By highlighting this seizure, is military intelligence trying to prepare public opinion for action against Iran?" |
Ahaha. This blowhard is still peddling the lies about Saddam cooperating with al-CIA-duh.
ATTACK IRAN NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!8/8/2005 11:35:22 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
If you're going to keep calling it "al-CIA-duh" can you at least provide some sort of proof that al Qaeda is actually a part of the CIA? Its well known that bin Laden was funded by the CIA during the 1980's when he was fighting the Soviets, but you have yet to show any evidence suggesting any further connection.
Once again, you're putting the carriage before the horse. You need to prove a theory before you can begin basing others on it. 8/9/2005 10:26:36 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.spacewar.com/2005/050809110755.10nbufiz.html
Quote : | "Don't bow to Iran, Israel warns Washintgon JERUSALEM (AFP) Aug 09, 2005
Israel urged the United States and the European Union Tuesday to maintain a zero-tolerance policy towards Iran over the Islamic republic's nuclear programme.
Iran resumed activities Monday at a uranium conversion facility in the central city of Isfahan, triggering a crisis with the international community.
"Iran made this decision because they are getting the impression that the United States and the Europeans are spineless," a senior official from Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's office told AFP on condition of anonymity.
"But this is precisely a time when the international community has to display the utmost determination in preventing Iran from acquiring the nuclear weapon," the official added." |
Iran is building a nuclear...power plant! The Europens and most of the international community are not alarmed because it is just a power plant. Zionist NWO chieftans maintain this is an "international crisis" and that Iran is trying to get Nookulur weapons. OMG! Attack Iran Now!8/9/2005 11:14:41 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Well, there is a long standing animosity between Israel and Iran. Its needless to say that the Israelis are worried about a Muslim theocracy within missile range becoming a nuclear power. But please go ahead and try to tie this in with the all encompassing conspiracy that you just can't seem to prove. 8/9/2005 11:19:28 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/08/09/chavez.invasion.ap/index.html
laff on line at that pic
8/9/2005 12:03:01 PM |
potpot All American 641 Posts user info edit post |
8/9/2005 12:04:53 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/rumsfeld-warns-tehran-on-flow-of-arms-to-iraq/2005/08/10/1123353385291.html
Quote : | "Rumsfeld warns Tehran on flow of arms to Iraq
By Michael Gawenda Herald Correspondent in Washington and agencies August 11, 2005 Tensions between the US and Iran have escalated, with the Secretary of Defence, Donald Rumsfeld, saying that new sophisticated weapons found in Iraq had clearly come from Iran and President George Bush saying he was "deeply suspicious" of the Islamic republic's nuclear ambitions.
...As Mr Rumsfeld was accusing Iran of arming insurgents in Iraq, Mr Bush told a press conference that he was "deeply suspicious" of Iran's nuclear intentions, but that the country's new President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, had indicated that he wanted negotiations with European Union representatives to continue.
...But State Department officials were pessimistic. A spokesman, Adam Ereli, said the US was prepared to "give Iran one last chance" to negotiate a deal with "our EU allies" before seeking to refer Tehran to the Security Council, though he conceded that getting the council to agree on sanctions would be tough." |
A nation given one last chance before being referred to the UN Security Council....haven't we heard that before?8/10/2005 6:32:27 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Always leaving out important stuff.....
Quote : | "Rumsfeld said the weapons create problems for the Iraqi government, coalition forces and the international community.
"And ultimately, it's a problem for Iran," he added.
When asked if that was a threat of possible retaliation, Rumsfeld replied, "I don't imply threats. You know that."" |
8/10/2005 7:55:57 PM |
roguewolf All American 9069 Posts user info edit post |
^ HAHA.
here's CNN's story on it - http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/08/10/iran.iraq/index.html 8/10/2005 8:54:17 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2005/100805fourstargeneral.htm
Quote : | "Four Star General Fired For Organizing Coup Against Neo-Cons
Reporter suggests Brynes discovered plan to turn nuke exercise into staged terror attack
Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones | August 10 2005
The head of Fort Monroe's Training and Doctrine Command, four star general Kevin P. Byrnes, was fired Tuesday apparently for sexual misconduct according to official sources.
Other sources however have offered a different explanation for Byrnes' dismissal which ties in with the Bush administration's unpopular plan to attack Iran and the staged nuclear attack in the US which would provide the pretext to do so.
According to reporter Greg Szymanski, anonymous military sources said that Brynes was the leader of a faction that was preparing to instigate a coup against the neo-con hawks in an attempt to prevent further global conflict.
Indications are that, much like popular opinion amongst the general public, half the military oppose the neo-con's agenda and half support it.
Further revelations were imparted by journalist Leland Lehrman who appeared today on The Alex Jones Show.
Lehrman's army sources, including a former Captain in intelligence, became outraged when they learned that the official story behind 9/11 was impossible.
They told Lehrman that the imminent Northcom nuclear terror exercise based in Charleston, S.C, where a nuclear warhead is smuggled off a ship and detonated, was originally intended to 'go live' - as in the drill would be used as the cover for a real false flag staged attack.
This website has relentlessly discussed similar style drills which took place on the morning of 9/11 and on the morning of 7/7 in London.
"Speculation exists that he had potentially discovered the fact that it was gonna go live and that he was trying to put a stop to it or also speculation indicates that he may be part of a military coup designed to prevent the ridiculous idea of doing a nuclear war with Iran, " said Lehrman." |
[Edited on August 11, 2005 at 11:00 AM. Reason : 1]8/11/2005 10:58:51 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "According to reporter Greg Szymanski, anonymous military sources said that Brynes was the leader of a faction that was preparing to instigate a coup against the neo-con hawks in an attempt to prevent further global conflict." |
1) Greg Szymanski is not a real reporter. He has a website very similar to prisonplanet.com.
2) Anonymous sources? If anyone is going to make ridiculous claims like this, then they should probably find some more conclusive evidence than "anonymous sources".8/11/2005 11:09:12 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Greg Szymanski certainly IS a "real" reporter. Just because he doesn't write for FOX News, CNN, or any of the "mainstream" media doesn't make him any less of a reporter. And, as I'm sure you know, the mainstream media cites and uses anonymous sources ALL THE TIME.
[Edited on August 11, 2005 at 11:29 AM. Reason : 2] 8/11/2005 11:27:09 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
Quote : | "August 10, 2005 -- U.S. prepared to grab Iran's southwestern majority Arab and oil-rich province after saturation bombing of Iranian nuclear, chemical, and command, control, communications & intelligence (C3I) targets.
According to sources within the German Federal Intelligence Service (Bundesnachrichtendienst - BND), the Bush administration has drawn up plans to hit Iran's nuclear, other WMD, and military sites with heavy saturation bombing using bunker buster bombs and tactical nuclear weapons. The attack will be coordinated with urban and rural critical infrastructure sabotage carried out by elements of the People's Mujaheddin (MEK), Pentagon Special Operations units, and other Iranian dissident groups. The German intelligence comes from classified briefings provided by elements within the CIA that are concerned the neocons in the Bush administration will, in attacking Iran, set off a chain of events that will lead to world war. Intelligence on U.S. plans to attack Iran has also been passed by CIA agents to counterparts in France, Britain, Canada, and Australia." |
8/11/2005 11:42:04 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.physics911.net/nuclearterror.htm
Quote : | "Nuclear Terror Drill to Go Live? Let's Hope Not
August 10, 2005 12:56PM Santa Fe, New Mexico (Mother Media) - On June 29th, the United States Northern Command (NORTHCOM) posted news of a nuclear terrorism drill on its website: "Here’s the scenario…A seafaring vessel transporting a 10-kiloton nuclear warhead makes its way into a port off the coast of Charleston, S.C. Terrorists aboard the ship attempt to smuggle the warhead off the ship to detonate it." It went on to say that "Sudden Response 05 will take place this August on Fort Monroe and will be carried out as an internal command post exercise. The exercise is intended to train the JTF-CS staff to plan and execute Consequence Management operations in support of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IV’s response to a nuclear detonation." As Alex Jones of infowars.com and others have pointed out, terror "drills" are now known to be the favorite "cover story" for New World Order terrorist operations, as evidenced by the eerily synchronous terrorism drills happening on both 9/11 and 7/7.
Recently, former CIA/DIA analyst Philip Giraldi has informed us that "Vice-President Cheney has tasked STRATCOM with "drawing up a contingency plan to be employed in response to another 9/11- type terrorist attack on the United States" and that "the plan includes a large-scale air assault on Iran employing both conventional and tactical nuclear weapons." Investigators and counter-intelligence specialists are concerned that this upcoming August nuclear terror scenario might go live to create the pretext for tactical nuclear war against Iran.
Mother Media contacted NORTHCOM Public Affairs this morning and learned that the Fort Monroe drill will begin in a "couple of days."" |
[Edited on August 11, 2005 at 2:56 PM. Reason : 1]8/11/2005 2:55:20 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Greg Szymanski certainly IS a "real" reporter. Just because he doesn't write for FOX News, CNN, or any of the "mainstream" media doesn't make him any less of a reporter." |
However, the fact that he writes for his own website makes much much less of a reporter.
From his website:
Quote : | "Looking for work since newspapers will not hire those who print the truth." |
Yeah, that must be it.
Quote : | "Sudden Response 05 will take place this August on Fort Monroe and will be carried out as an internal command post exercise." |
So if this doesn't happen will start to reconsider your stance on the "globalist conspiracy"?
hail satan8/11/2005 3:10:36 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
YEAH.
THE FUCKING GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO DETONATE A NUKE IN SOUTH CAROLINA AS A PRETEXT TO GO TO WAR WITH IRAN.
BECAUSE THAT MAKES SENSE. 8/11/2005 3:25:10 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
8/11/2005 3:59:56 PM |
BunkerBuster All American 19652 Posts user info edit post |
8/11/2005 4:03:10 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
i say we let 'em have all the nukes they want
but if they so much as point one skyward, we blow the shit out of them
and come right out at the beginning and say that shit
we're going to make you cease to exist if you so much as threaten anyone with them
and god help you if some of your more fanatic citizens get hold of one 8/12/2005 2:33:20 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
If they nuke South Carolina I'm going to send a thank you card to Tehran. 8/12/2005 2:52:09 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
^ X 6
?
This may explain a lot.
[Edited on August 13, 2005 at 10:47 AM. Reason : 2]8/13/2005 10:46:19 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
http://prisonplanet.com/Pages/Aug05/130805Iran.htm
Quote : | "Bush raises option of using force against Iran
Reuters | August 13 2005
President Bush said on Israeli television he could consider using force as a last resort to press Iran to give up its nuclear program.
“All options are on the table,” Bush, speaking at his ranch in Crawford, Texas, said in the interview broadcast on Saturday.
Asked if that included the use of force, Bush replied: “As I say, all options are on the table. The use of force is the last option for any president and you know, we’ve used force in the recent past to secure our country.”
Iran resumed work at a uranium conversion plant on Monday after rejecting a European Union offer of political and economic incentives in return for giving up its nuclear program. It says it aims only to produce electricity and denies Western accusations it is seeking a nuclear bomb." |
8/13/2005 2:34:48 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Key General fired as nuke terror drill set for Aug 17 http://www.globalnewsmatrix.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2159
Quote : | "News is flying in regard to the nuclear terror drill set for this month. It is feared by informed researchers that an actual nuclear detonation may be piggybacked on the drill, as was the modus operandi in the 9/11 and 7/7 inside jobs.
As reported at this site, the drill involving a nuclear warhead being smuggled into Charleston, South Carolina is to involve the Atlanta-area FEMA office and be run out of Fort Monroe, Virginia. Today, the four-star general in charge of Fort Monroe was fired. Anonymously-sourced and speculative reports on the leading alternative media websites posited General Kevin Byrnes was fired for attempting to prevent the drill from going live." |
Charleston, South Carolina nuke terror drill set for August 17 http://tradoc.monroe.army.mil/casemate/stack/080505exercise.htm8/13/2005 5:27:45 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4147892.stm
Quote : | "Bush warns Iran on nuclear plans
US President George W Bush says he still has not ruled out the option of using force against Iran, after it resumed work on its nuclear programme. He said he was working on a diplomatic solution, but was sceptical that one could be found." |
8/14/2005 12:14:20 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article305741.ece
Quote : | "UN nuclear watchdog rebuts claims that Iran is trying to make A-bomb
By Anne Penketh Published: 14 August 2005
The UN nuclear watchdog is preparing to publish evidence that Iran is not engaged in a nuclear weapons programme, undermining a warning of possible military action from President George Bush.
The US President told Israeli television that "all options are on the table" if Iran fails to comply with international calls to halt its nuclear programme. Both the US and Israel - the Middle East's only nuclear-armed power - were "united in our objective to make sure Iran does not have a weapon", he said.
However, Iran is about to receive a major boost from the results of a scientific analysis that will prove that the country's authorities were telling the truth when they said they were not developing a nuclear weapon." |
8/14/2005 3:56:53 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N14700292.htm
Quote : | "Iran backing Iraqi insurgent bombers - Time report
14 Aug 2005
Source: Reuters WASHINGTON, Aug 14 (Reuters) - An Iranian-backed network of insurgents in Iraq is responsible for a new type of lethal roadside bomb, part of plans by Tehran to influence its neighbor that began even before the U.S. invasion, Time magazine reported on Sunday.
Citing a U.S. military intelligence document, the magazine said that over the past eight months, a network of insurgents led by a man named Abu Mustafa al-Sheibani had introduced bombs based on a design from the Iranian-backed Lebanese militia Hizbollah that can easily pierce battle tank armor." |
Hey, the lies about Iran trying to build nuclear weapons might not work out for the Zionists as planned. Time for plan B. Accuse Iran of aiding the "insurgency" in Iraq.
[Edited on August 14, 2005 at 11:44 PM. Reason : 1]8/14/2005 11:42:47 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I'm simply amazed that you have detailed intelligence regarding Iranian nuclear capability as well as their aid to insurgents. Without a brilliant intelligence apparatus like prisonplanet.com you wouldn't be able to discount the media as lies and accusations.
If Charleston isn't nuked on 8/17 will you admit your mistake? Oh wait a minute, if it isn't nuked and someone calls you out on it, you'll say something along the lines of "Oh, I was just presenting that for your consideration. I didn't believe it." What a clever little way to say what you want while distancing yourself from any responsibility. 8/15/2005 12:49:00 AM |
Stimwalt All American 15292 Posts user info edit post |
I would just like to take a moment and reflect upon the fact that this thread is the only one of Salisburyboy's threads that might actually come to pass. Meaning, the US might actually engage Iran. For once, Salisburyboy makes a thread that isn't complete hysteria. 8/15/2005 8:52:43 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I have a broken watch that is right twice a day. 8/15/2005 10:14:26 AM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
^^ so the government nuking charleston in order to go to war isn't complete hysteria? 8/15/2005 10:20:15 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
This article surprised me a little bit...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,12858,1549335,00.html
Quote : | "How Bush would gain from war with Iran
The US has the capability and reasons for an assault - and it is hard to see Britain uninvolved
Dan Plesch Monday August 15, 2005 The Guardian
President Bush has reminded us that he is prepared to take military action to prevent Iran acquiring nuclear weapons. On Israeli television this weekend, he declared that "all options are on the table" if Tehran doesn't comply with international demands.
In private his officials deride EU and UN diplomacy with Iran. US officials have been preparing pre-emptive war since Bush marked Iran out as a member of the "axis of evil" back in 2002. Once again, this war is likely to have British support.
A plausible spin could be that America and Britain must act where the international community has failed, and that their action is the responsible alternative to an Israeli attack. The conventional wisdom is that, even if diplomacy fails, the US is so bogged down in Iraq that it could not take on Iran. However, this misunderstands the capabilities and intentions of the Bush administration.
America's devastating air power is not committed in Iraq. Just 120 B52, B1 and B2 bombers could hit 5,000 targets in a single mission. Thousands of other warplanes and missiles are available. The army and marines are heavily committed in Iraq, but enough forces could be found to secure coastal oilfields and to conduct raids into Iran.
A US attack is unlikely to be confined to the suspected WMD locations or to involve a ground invasion to occupy the country. The strikes would probably be intended to destroy military, political and (oil excepted) economic infrastructure. A disabled Iran could be further paralysed by civil war. Tehran alleges US support for separatists in the large Azeri population of the north-west, and fighting is increasing in Iranian Kurdistan." |
I guess they know that war with Iran is coming and are conditioning the public for it.
[Edited on August 15, 2005 at 11:48 PM. Reason : 1]8/15/2005 11:41:55 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I guess they know that war with Iran is coming and are conditioning the public for it." |
If you're going to make more wild claims about the media being part of an effort to condition the public, could you please provide some proof that the Guardian is controlled by the NWO?8/16/2005 9:52:11 AM |
Stimwalt All American 15292 Posts user info edit post |
30thAnnZ, reading comprehension...
Quote : | "I would just like to take a moment and reflect upon the fact that this thread is the only one of Salisburyboy's threads that might actually come to pass. Meaning, the US might actually engage Iran. For once, Salisburyboy makes a thread that isn't complete hysteria." |
I even used the word "Meaning"... so that you would know what I meant.
/laugh
[Edited on August 16, 2005 at 11:06 AM. Reason : -]8/16/2005 11:03:02 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Well, regardless, Charleston is supposedly going to be nuked tomorrow. 8/16/2005 11:05:37 AM |
Stimwalt All American 15292 Posts user info edit post |
Regardless of what?
I don't defend his sensationalist sidenotes, I'm talking big picture here. 8/16/2005 11:07:54 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2005/160805hitpiece.htm
Quote : | "Charleston Post & Courier Runs Hit Piece On Nuclear Drill Story
Prison Planet | August 16 2005
The Charleston Post and Courier ran a sardonic hit piece on the nuclear drills set to take place this month which simulate a nuclear weapon which is smuggled from a boat off the port of Charleston, South Carolina.
The article is a childish attempt to make questions about the current nuclear terror drills appear comical.
This website nor any other that reported on the nuclear terror drills said that 'Charleston will blow up' - all we were doing was asking questions about the poorly explained dismissal of four star general Kevin P. Byrnes, and highlighting other sources who claimed that the dismissal was due to Byrnes finding out that the terror drill was set to go live.
Alex Jones appeared on Coast to Coast AM to discuss this story and he made it clear that we were simply reporting on issues that others had raised, we were not the source of the story and our aim was twofold. One, to ascertain how accurate the story was and two to head off any possibility of this drill becoming live, by simply giving the story attention we had already achieved the second aim.
...
All this is now moot. The attention the stoy has garnered ensures THERE WILL BE NO ATTACK, and this was our intention all along, bring the story out in the light and make sure everybody is aware of it, so in this sense the hit piece has helped our cause. We thank Brian Hicks and the Charleston Post and Courier for their contribution." |
[Edited on August 16, 2005 at 6:54 PM. Reason : 1]8/16/2005 6:52:14 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
This is great. Now that the deadline for your nuclear attack on Charleston is less than 24 hours away, you discover that it has been cancelled. Why? Simply because you talked about it. Apparently, you and Alex Jones saved the world.
Can you provide any hard evidence that an attack was actually going to take place? How about some proof that the NWO scuttled their plans because of Alex Jones? Can you show us some proof that this plot existed anywhere besides the inside of Alex Jones' head? 8/16/2005 7:24:12 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "A drill? An attack? Rumor mill names Charleston as the setting The Post and Courier - Charleston, S.C. Author: BRIAN HICKS Date: Aug 15, 2005 Start Page: A.1 Section: SECTION A Text Word Count: 689 For the past week, conspiracy theorists have been spinning an elaborate tale of how the U.S. government will turn a terrorism drill in Charleston into a nuclear attack.
Still, this chatter has stirred up folks all over the Lowcountry, worried that nuclear fallout could seriously ruin their weekend. Officials with Charleston County, the state's emergency management personnel and even the Department of Defense have gotten worried calls from folks scanning the skies for mushroom clouds over Fort Sumter.
Problem is, the terrorism drill, which will focus on bad guys getting nukes, will take place this week at Fort Monroe in Hampton Roads, Va. -- about 400 miles up the coast. Charleston was apparently mentioned on a lark. The organization charged with homeland defense has no plans to stage a drill in the Lowcountry." |
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/charleston/access/882318311.html?dids=882318311:882318311&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=Aug+15%2C+2005&author=BRIAN+HICKS&desc=A+drill%3F+An+attack%3F+Rumor+mill+names+Charleston+as+the+setting8/16/2005 7:44:42 PM |