MacGyver Suspended 6745 Posts user info edit post |
Favre, who leads the NFL in INTs, just threw another one. Damn, he is such a badass and his stats show it! He is THE BEST when it comes to throwing INTs.
Damn, that rushing TD that Vick just made was sick. So far Vick has a rushing TD and a passing TD. But damn, his passing stats are just shitty, how ever will the Falcons win this game?
[Edited on November 13, 2005 at 5:10 PM. Reason : .] 11/13/2005 5:05:42 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
scoreboard 11/13/2005 5:44:24 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
^^Oh it doesn't matter, Favre is out-playing Vick right now, I mean look at the score, Favre has 17 and Vick has 14. 11/13/2005 5:46:08 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Speaking of stats, you know what's awesome?
If you got to the box score of the GB/Atl game, there is no information on any of the running backs Green Bay has used today. Just an overall stat line: http://sports-att.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=251113001
I've never seen that before. 11/13/2005 5:56:46 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
??11/13/2005 6:02:23 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
It says:
Quote : | "Team 13 56 4.3 1 0 " |
But no individual stats.11/13/2005 6:11:40 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Well, Vick fumble, so the turnovers are the same.
(correction, 2 fumbles, only 1 lost)
[Edited on November 13, 2005 at 6:13 PM. Reason : correction] 11/13/2005 6:12:43 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
gamecast says the packers have 0 rushing yards
weird 11/13/2005 6:13:23 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
^ Of the people they've shown rushing, I haven't seen a single one of those names before. Not even Gado. 11/13/2005 6:15:25 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
yeah they probably don't have player pages on espn.com 11/13/2005 6:16:52 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
K. Brooking for 9 yards. B. Scott for 5 yards. C. Davis for 2 yards.
I swear I have never heard these names before.
[Edited on November 13, 2005 at 6:23 PM. Reason : More and more names] 11/13/2005 6:22:20 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Well, that ends that discussion.
Favre beat Vick. [/thread] 11/13/2005 7:25:41 PM |
MacGyver Suspended 6745 Posts user info edit post |
Vick is still the better player, athelete, and QB. He just had a bad game. It happens.
^^You've never heard of Keith Brooking? He is only one of the best LBs in the league. 11/13/2005 7:29:58 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
nm, that explains it.
GameCast was fucked up and had the Atlanta defensive players running the ball for us.
[Edited on November 13, 2005 at 7:36 PM. Reason : .] 11/13/2005 7:33:59 PM |
NCSU337 All American 1098 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Vick is still the better player, athelete, and QB. He just had a bad game. It happens. " |
Didn't you say that Vick was better than Mcnabb because the falcon beat the eagle earlier in the year?11/13/2005 7:34:10 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
No no no, you set your logic and credentials for the QB, they played and Favre won. GB didn't win, and Atlanta didn't lose, Favre beat Vick. I mean, Vick made Dunn fumble, and Favre made Longwell hit 4 FG's and the defense force all those fumbles.
This thread is over, Favre beat Vick. 11/13/2005 7:34:28 PM |
Hedgeapple All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
i didnt think deities had bad games
you people 11/13/2005 7:34:52 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
^^agreed
[Edited on November 14, 2005 at 1:12 AM. Reason : ] 11/14/2005 1:12:14 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
haha i didnt read a lot of this thread but i do know that greenbay beat the falcons today so all i gotta say is hah 11/14/2005 2:00:19 AM |
MrUniverse All American 26072 Posts user info edit post |
oooo ooo let me use one game as an ultimate judge..... who is going to be playing at the end of the regular season and beyond?
enough said 11/14/2005 8:02:34 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
i thought the only thing that mattered when judging QB's was if they win or not. well, favre won and vick didn't. 11/14/2005 8:06:38 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
yeah the only thing that matters is what happened on the field yesterday
favre beat vick singlehandedly 11/14/2005 11:15:24 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
As much as a drain on society and TWW MacGyver appears to be, this is retarded.
For one game, according to his logic, Favre>Vick. For the seasons Vick>>>>>>>>>>>Favre.
Give it up guys. 11/14/2005 11:34:24 AM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
11/14/2005 12:23:14 PM |
juicebybrad All American 795 Posts user info edit post |
MacGyver:
Quote : | "How are they overhyped? They have a badass D, a top notch running back, and one of the best QBs in the league. Sure, they had a bad game, but they are not overhyped." |
So you've admitted they have a badass D and a top notch running back, but you still assert that Vick is the only reason they win?
Oh, and Go Packers!11/14/2005 2:05:13 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
well back when philly lost to atlanta head to head, they used that to "prove" that vick was better than mcnabb. so, by that logic favre is better than vick.
MacGyver (9/13/2005):
Quote : | "hey...McNabb.....how does it feel to see your team get FUCKING OWNED by the 2nd best QB in the NFL?!?! " |
11/14/2005 2:14:19 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Seriously. Lets just let it go. He is a troll. He'll never recognize any errors or discrepancies he makes. He'll just continue to be a vapid fool.
Seriously he doesn't add anything to Sports Talk worth a damn and maybe, God willing, he will go away if we don't give him the attention he craves. 11/14/2005 2:22:19 PM |
MacGyver Suspended 6745 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Didn't you say that Vick was better than Mcnabb because the falcon beat the eagle earlier in the year? " |
What is the Eagles record so far this year? What is the Packers? What is the Falcons? See the trend, Vick leads his team to better records, and thats all that matters.
Quote : | "Seriously. Lets just let it go. He is a troll. He'll never recognize any errors or discrepancies he makes. He'll just continue to be a vapid fool." |
Im not trolling. You guys just get pissed because the stuff I post is true. I have admited in the past when I have been wrong the very few times I have. But other than that, you can't say I am trolling just because you don't agree with what I am saying.
[Edited on November 14, 2005 at 3:12 PM. Reason : .]11/14/2005 3:10:23 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
so does this "quarterback inherits the team record as evidence of their own ability" shit work for other positions too?
like, is brian finneran a better WR than donald driver because the falcons have a better record than the packers?
is ashley lelie or rod smith better than randy moss because the broncos have a better record than the raiders? 11/14/2005 3:20:20 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
11/14/2005 3:32:49 PM |
MacGyver Suspended 6745 Posts user info edit post |
^^Nope, it only works for QBs 11/14/2005 3:49:01 PM |
strudle66 All American 1573 Posts user info edit post |
Nope, it only works for QBs when MacGyver uses it in an attempt to justify his nonsense. 11/14/2005 3:51:28 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
hence vick cant beat favre
11/14/2005 3:54:28 PM |
MacGyver Suspended 6745 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Remember when Vick and the Falcons, who are half the team they are now, went into Lambo in the playoffs and beat the Packers.
" |
11/14/2005 3:59:10 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you make no sense" |
11/14/2005 4:32:52 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
lambeau, asshat 11/14/2005 4:34:35 PM |
MacGyver Suspended 6745 Posts user info edit post |
Vick beat Favre and the Packers at home, during the playoffs, in a game that meant something to both teams. 11/14/2005 4:48:26 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Haha, ok, if we're looking at season records, then Jake Delhomme is better than Vick right MacGyver? So let me get this "logic" right...
Peyton(9-0) > Delhomme,Plummer,Palmer, Big Ben, Hasselback(all 7-2) > Vick, Eli, Orton, Simms, Leftwich(all 6-3)?
So according to your "logic", Vick is the same as Kyle Orton? Now that is just incredible logic. 11/14/2005 4:52:10 PM |
juicebybrad All American 795 Posts user info edit post |
^^What it "meant" to the Falcons was that they could get their asses handed to them by the Eagles. 11/14/2005 4:57:15 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
^^to be fair, big ben is 5-1 and simms is 1-2. vick is 6-2 since matt schaub lost the game for them against the patriots with his 300 yards and 3 TDs. 11/14/2005 5:05:55 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH
WTF IS MACGYVER TALKING ABOUT NOW? 11/14/2005 5:17:45 PM |
Sleik All American 11177 Posts user info edit post |
^howevermany
BuT THE VICK LOST TO THE MCNABB IN THE NFC CHAMPIANSHOP GAME LAST YEAR 11/14/2005 5:23:49 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Q: I can't believe I heard this, but Paul Maguire said on Sunday night that he can think of ONLY one QB you don't want to give the ball back to in a tie game with 2 minutes left -- Brett Favre!!!! Has he heard of Tom Brady? Hasn't Favre thrown about 75 game killing INTs in the past few years? With this in mind, what are the five worst announcer comments this year? -- Tom B., Duxbury, Mass.
SG: Not only did I hear the same comment, I remember thinking to myself, "Does he mean that you don't want to give Favre the ball in a tie game if you're a Packers fan?" Unbelievable. With the way broadcasters treat Favre these days -- and it's not just the Sunday night guys, it's everyone -- we may have to change the phrase "treating him with kid gloves" to "the Favre Treatment." For years now, Favre has basically been the white Aaron Brooks -- does all the same dumb things, makes the same dumb throws, snatches defeat from victory the same number of times, but puts up surprisingly good stats year after year. Only everyone piles on Brooks and makes excuses for Favre. Hmmmmm. I'd say more here, but I'm violating Scoop Jackson's Page 2 territorial rights.
By the way, in my "Top Gun/NFL" preview before the 2003 season, I gave Favre the quote, "Wait a second … you were in a 4G inverted dive with a MIG-28?" with the following explanation: To Brett Favre, firmly entrenched in the "Marino in the mid-'90s" stage of his career. In other words, he's just great enough to win some games on his own, not quite as great as he used to be, and unable to accept the fact that he isn't quite as great as he used to be. So he forces balls in big spots, tries to do too much, and invariably ends up killing the Packers against good teams. And it has been happening for three seasons now. And counting. Now we're wrapping up Year 6. And counting. I find this interesting." |
[Edited on December 18, 2005 at 7:38 AM. Reason : a]12/18/2005 7:37:41 AM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
lets compare God to hmmm, Matt Schaub??
Vick (7-5) 170 305 2014yrds 55.7 6.60 58 13td 4.3 10int 3.3 24 134 76.6
Schaub (1-0) 24 51 385 47.1 7.55 53 3 5.9 0 0.0 4 15 92.4
7-5 with horrible throwing numbers makes you one of the premier QB's in the league, i dont even think he is the best QB on the team just the best athlete. 12/18/2005 7:45:24 AM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
and by 1-0 Im taking it you meant 0-1.
He put up some stats against the worst passing defense in the league, WOWZERS!!!! And they still lost.
And im sure you also saw the fumble in the end zone Schaub had when he replaced Vick a few weeks ago.
And you're aware Schaub did horribly last season when Vick rested for the playoffs.
Alright good talk guys see you out there. 12/18/2005 8:00:55 AM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
^yea it was a joke, but i dont think Vick is anywhere near even the top 10 QBs in the league
[Edited on December 18, 2005 at 11:59 AM. Reason : ] 12/18/2005 11:58:14 AM |
MacGyver Suspended 6745 Posts user info edit post |
a 48-3 loss for the QB god known as Favre. Like I said in my first post.....the guy sucks now. Atleast Vick lost to the #1 defense. Favre needs to call it quits after this season, the guy is done. And yes, I know he beat the Falcons this year, so you don't need to remind me. 12/20/2005 10:53:56 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
it must be nice living week-to-week with no memory of the past 12/20/2005 10:58:26 AM |
MacGyver Suspended 6745 Posts user info edit post |
It must suck living week to week knowing you are a nigger. 12/20/2005 11:01:07 AM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
yeah but vick lost to that football god
at home
12/20/2005 11:27:28 AM |