Exactly

If you define bad fans as those who support a player or coach above their school.

4/2/2006 4:15:06 PM

the herb haters are now all--you're either with us or against us

and if you're against us you're a bad fan

fuck that

I want the teams to win

but i don't agree with the scrutiny that comes when they aren't perfect

that's just setting yourself up for something like this to happen

you guys seem optimistic now but no one has any idea what's going to happen

i may seem pessimistic, i just don't see what was wrong with what we had

4/2/2006 4:20:25 PM

you didn't see anything; because you are blind.

4/2/2006 4:22:03 PM

i was content and wasn't looking for problems

4/2/2006 4:23:25 PM

Quote :

"its not about herb leaving its about everybody running him out why support and be a part of a school and fan base that's never satisfied?"

HE WAS HERE FOR 10 FUCKING YEARS, A DECADE....FUCKING DOUCHEBAG!

stop with the, we ran him out shit....herb is a grown ass man, and grown ass men that take 1 million+ to coach college/pro sports understand that criticism and tough fans will always be there, especially when you run a boring ass offense, are stubborn with players, and lose every big game against your rivals

4/2/2006 4:24:35 PM

You didn't have to look for problems

They would always smack you in the face.

4/2/2006 4:24:53 PM

wow

you run him out and then you refuse to take credit for it

that's what's wrong with you people...

4/2/2006 4:26:48 PM

you people

4/2/2006 4:27:35 PM

Quote :

"Herb's PR hit was his inability to effectively execute timeouts, losing to 12th place teams within 5 days, getting blown away in NCAA tournament, going 8-38 v Duke/UNC, going 8-36 against RPI Top 25. Maybe his cheasy way to "explain away" losses or his arrogant defensive manner on his radio show were bigger PR hits. Sendek was not in demand. ASU plucked him because their first 2 or 3 choices said no thanks. The only bad PR will be perpetuated by an agenda-driven media. NC State should ignore all this non-sense and bring in a coach that can make us forget about Sendek in 20 minutes, that guy is out there 20 times over."

this ran him out......not me

4/2/2006 4:29:26 PM

i hope he writes in to the paper with a big ass speech about how upset he is with the fans

i'd laugh

4/2/2006 4:36:52 PM

he would have probably taken less than we're paying him to coach somewhere else. the money is NOT the reason why he left, but it certainly didn't hurt.

4/2/2006 4:39:44 PM

Quote :

"i hope herb quits and state is forced to hire some shitty no-name coach i will laugh my fucking ass off "

looks like my wish is going to come true

4/2/2006 5:00:31 PM

I really just wish he would have had a presser to confront some of his criticism.

I seemed like the more shit he got, the less he said. All most of our fans wanted were some explanations, but he pretended as if he was in a fantasy world and didnt have to explain himself for his team playing like shit.


Fucking Kay Yow speaks to the fans after every win and loss. She thanks them for coming to every game, and appoligizes when her team gets dominated. Herb needs to take a lesson.

I'm mad that he left, because I think he's a good coach. He could have shut most of the fans up by acknowledging his mistakes and at least pretending to care about Duke and UNC.


Anyone who puts this on our fans is full of shit, and they're probably out to get us. I dont want to hear another fucking word about how we ran him out. We did...but its his own damn fault for not talking.

4/2/2006 5:09:47 PM

kay yow coaches women's basketball

WOMEN'S BASKETBALL

4/2/2006 5:12:15 PM

hey how about you cry about Herb leaving some more



I'm mad he's gone too, but you have to look at all angles.

4/2/2006 5:13:56 PM

Herb supposedly didn't meet with the players before he left, either.

4/2/2006 5:16:03 PM

^^you're right, i should be happy

let's throw a fucking party

4/2/2006 5:22:35 PM

a press conference to confront the criticism?

no way anything like that would ever happen. he will never admit that he left because of the criticism he received here or that he left for the money. its just bad PR to do something like that. all he will say is that although his time here with nc state was good, he saw potential in asu and felt that it was the right step for him to make

4/2/2006 5:22:42 PM

^thats not what I meant.


I meant he should have held a press conference to acknowledge his critics INSTEAD of leaving. I dont want to hear a damn word from him now. He can suck it for all I care.



^^thats not what I meant either

[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 5:27 PM. Reason : ]

4/2/2006 5:27:18 PM

Quote :

"the herb haters are now all--you're either with us or against us and if you're against us you're a bad fan fuck that I want the teams to win but i don't agree with the scrutiny that comes when they aren't perfect that's just setting yourself up for something like this to happen you guys seem optimistic now but no one has any idea what's going to happen i may seem pessimistic, i just don't see what was wrong with what we had"

agreed

and i even wanted a new coach, but the ferocity with which our own fans attacked our coach in front of a national audience was just embarrassing

4/2/2006 5:27:52 PM

Let's not hire a coach. We can have recruiters but no coach.

We should just try it as a terribly unscientific experiment and see what happens.

WHO'S WITH ME??

4/2/2006 5:30:19 PM

:crickets:

4/2/2006 5:33:50 PM

as goes bridget, so goes axl


i'm with ya

4/2/2006 5:36:45 PM

This is just like Jerry Marguire. I'll try not to shoplift the puddy.

4/2/2006 5:42:41 PM

Quote :

"Maybe his cheasy way to "explain away" losses or his arrogant defensive manner on his radio show were bigger PR hits."

1. "Cheasy"?
2. Herb Sendek <--- Arrogant     Now I've truly heard it all.

[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 6:07 PM. Reason : ]

4/2/2006 6:07:28 PM

We tried recruiters only. Don't you remember the past 10 years?

^he is arrogant. Didn't want to change his offense, didn't want to rebound, etc. Herb is arrogant. Actually talk to former players. I have.

[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 6:10 PM. Reason : .]

4/2/2006 6:09:33 PM

just read this...wtf...

but i guess if i were him i'd have done the same thing, with all the whiny bitches we have for fans.

shit.

4/2/2006 6:16:15 PM

^^HEY EVERYONE! THIS GUY HANGS OUT WITH FORMER PLAYERS! THEY GO OUT FOR DRINKS TOGETHER! OMG, HE'S THE COOLEST!

By the way, ASSUMING that is true, that makes him stubborn, but not arrogant.

4/2/2006 6:30:50 PM

he'd be arrogant if he proclaimed the offense was better than UNC's and Duke and still lost and never changed his position

4/2/2006 6:33:04 PM

And did he proclaim that the offense was better than Duke and UNC? Strange, I can't remember that.

4/2/2006 6:35:39 PM

NO MORE HERBBBB...THIS SHOULD BE A NC STATE HOLIDAY NOW

4/2/2006 6:50:13 PM

Quote :

""…if you want me to be quite blunt I’ve got one of the best jobs in the country. Yea, I grew up in North Carolina but I have no desire to coach in the Atlantic Coast Conference or coach anywhere else other than Texas" Barnes said Saturday, prior to the Texas-NC State matchup that saw Texas soundly whip the Wolfpack. But Barnes added "it bothers me more, not so much about that, it bothers me more that Herb hasn’t been appreciated the way he should be"

teh herb haters will keep any sane coach from coming here.

http://www.redandwhitefromstate.com/article.php/20060320054121944


PACK BBBAL IS OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 6:52 PM. Reason : -]

4/2/2006 6:52:38 PM

I thought this was a fucking joke!

4/2/2006 7:47:16 PM

^^that is old.

4/2/2006 7:48:33 PM

thats why he wont coach here (people like you)

[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 7:58 PM. Reason : 0]

4/2/2006 7:51:38 PM

Obviously you and the mouse in your pocket won't coach here.

4/2/2006 7:53:11 PM

hey Joshnumbers:

Quote :

"SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH YOUR "i hope you guys are happy when we go 0-16 next year in the acc" BULLSHIT! That won't happen. SO SHUT THE FUCK UP! YOU LIKED HERB, OTHER PEOPLE DIDN'T! GET THE FUCK OVER IT! You thought mediocrity and losing badly to the last place team in the ACC twice in a row is something to applaud. Other intelligent people didn't! You thought herb's brilliant last possession pump fake plays were awesome. Other intelligent people didn't. You thought scoring 10 points in a half against St. Fucking John's was an accomplishment. OTHER PEOPLE DIDN'T! GET THE FUCK OVER YOUR SORRY FUCKING SELVES!!! NOW YOU SEE HOW THE HERB HATERS HAVE FELT FOR SO MANY SEASONS! WE'VE BEEN STUCK WITH SHIT WE DIDN'T LIKE AND ALL WE COULD HEAR WAS "BE A TRUE FAN!!! SUPPORT A SHITTY COACH!!!" Well, guess what? If we have a shitty coach next year, "BE A TRUE FAN!!! SUPPORT A SHITTY COACH!!!" i mean, you supported herb, so it should come naturally. this isn't the end of NC State basketball. Its just the end of a controversial coach. But quit acting like we're gonna be in the shitter now and quit saying bullshit stuff like "I hope you are happy with the shitty coach we will get!" we've been fucking SICK of the shitty coach WE ALREADY HAD! so shut the fuck up! herb is a fucking MORON if he can't figure out why people can't stand him here. He might have gone to Carnegie-Melon, but if you can't put 2 and 2 together after losing 2 to the cellar team by a combined 25 points, then you aren't very bright. If you can't put 2 and 2 together after consistent 6-7 minute scoring droughts, then Forest fucking GUMP is smarter than you."

that goes to TheCoz, too

4/2/2006 8:05:46 PM

if i were a great coach and was offered this position, i would reject it immediately. i would never willingly come to coach for this fanbase.

we will hire away a mid-major coach looking to make a name for himself in the ACC. it will be a gamble. the good thing is that if we don't lose any players, we will be in a much better position for this than we were 10 years ago when we gambled on herb. the new guy coming in will have a solid team to start with at least.

but i still think this sucks.

4/2/2006 8:10:11 PM

but see you aren't a coach

so you can't say what would happen.

4/2/2006 8:10:42 PM

well you dont seem to have a problem with offering your own opinion on the matter.

4/2/2006 8:14:35 PM

My opinion is based on his history and statements in the past.

4/2/2006 8:17:35 PM

this one's for you, too, ncWOLFsu:

Quote :

"SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH YOUR "i hope you guys are happy when we go 0-16 next year in the acc" BULLSHIT! That won't happen. SO SHUT THE FUCK UP! YOU LIKED HERB, OTHER PEOPLE DIDN'T! GET THE FUCK OVER IT! You thought mediocrity and losing badly to the last place team in the ACC twice in a row is something to applaud. Other intelligent people didn't! You thought herb's brilliant last possession pump fake plays were awesome. Other intelligent people didn't. You thought scoring 10 points in a half against St. Fucking John's was an accomplishment. OTHER PEOPLE DIDN'T! GET THE FUCK OVER YOUR SORRY FUCKING SELVES!!! NOW YOU SEE HOW THE HERB HATERS HAVE FELT FOR SO MANY SEASONS! WE'VE BEEN STUCK WITH SHIT WE DIDN'T LIKE AND ALL WE COULD HEAR WAS "BE A TRUE FAN!!! SUPPORT A SHITTY COACH!!!" Well, guess what? If we have a shitty coach next year, "BE A TRUE FAN!!! SUPPORT A SHITTY COACH!!!" i mean, you supported herb, so it should come naturally. this isn't the end of NC State basketball. Its just the end of a controversial coach. But quit acting like we're gonna be in the shitter now and quit saying bullshit stuff like "I hope you are happy with the shitty coach we will get!" we've been fucking SICK of the shitty coach WE ALREADY HAD! so shut the fuck up! herb is a fucking MORON if he can't figure out why people can't stand him here. He might have gone to Carnegie-Melon, but if you can't put 2 and 2 together after losing 2 to the cellar team by a combined 25 points, then you aren't very bright. If you can't put 2 and 2 together after consistent 6-7 minute scoring droughts, then Forest fucking GUMP is smarter than you."

4/2/2006 8:19:52 PM

didnt that get locked?

4/2/2006 8:20:52 PM

Quote :

"if i were a great coach and was offered this position, i would reject it immediately. i would never willingly come to coach for this fanbase. "

kelvin sampson obviously disagrees with you.

and he IS a great coach.

so you lose.

4/2/2006 8:22:41 PM

^^well we'll see next year at this time if i was right in worrying

4/2/2006 8:22:56 PM

Quote :

"SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH YOUR "i hope you guys are happy when we go 0-16 next year in the acc" BULLSHIT! That won't happen. SO SHUT THE FUCK UP! YOU LIKED HERB, OTHER PEOPLE DIDN'T! GET THE FUCK OVER IT! You thought mediocrity and losing badly to the last place team in the ACC twice in a row is something to applaud. Other intelligent people didn't! You thought herb's brilliant last possession pump fake plays were awesome. Other intelligent people didn't. You thought scoring 10 points in a half against St. Fucking John's was an accomplishment. OTHER PEOPLE DIDN'T! GET THE FUCK OVER YOUR SORRY FUCKING SELVES!!! NOW YOU SEE HOW THE HERB HATERS HAVE FELT FOR SO MANY SEASONS! WE'VE BEEN STUCK WITH SHIT WE DIDN'T LIKE AND ALL WE COULD HEAR WAS "BE A TRUE FAN!!! SUPPORT A SHITTY COACH!!!" Well, guess what? If we have a shitty coach next year, "BE A TRUE FAN!!! SUPPORT A SHITTY COACH!!!" i mean, you supported herb, so it should come naturally. this isn't the end of NC State basketball. Its just the end of a controversial coach. But quit acting like we're gonna be in the shitter now and quit saying bullshit stuff like "I hope you are happy with the shitty coach we will get!" we've been fucking SICK of the shitty coach WE ALREADY HAD! so shut the fuck up! herb is a fucking MORON if he can't figure out why people can't stand him here. He might have gone to Carnegie-Melon, but if you can't put 2 and 2 together after losing 2 to the cellar team by a combined 25 points, then you aren't very bright. If you can't put 2 and 2 together after consistent 6-7 minute scoring droughts, then Forest fucking GUMP is smarter than you.""

crazy ass rants dont help your case

4/2/2006 8:23:31 PM

yeah, but saying "I hope we suck!" doesn't help either

4/2/2006 8:24:29 PM

i never said i hope we suck

4/2/2006 8:27:50 PM

tommy burelson on wral during sports segment

4/2/2006 11:06:19 PM

this will be an interesting season next year

4/2/2006 11:38:34 PM