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6/9/2009 3:26:49 PM

from pg. 1

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"LIKE YOUR LITTLE SISTER'S HOOHA?"

i saw this and LOLWTF'd all over myself

then i realized i posted it. three years ago.

6/9/2009 4:32:55 PM

i hiked about 7 miles yesterday in glacier on a moderate trail in my fivefingers. my legs and feet aren't sore at all. i got a couple of comments/compliments on them. one guy was like "i wouldn't think those aquasocks are good for hiking. what about rocks?" -they're not aquasocks, they're for going barefoot on things that might hurt your feet, like rocks.

another older lady was like "i LOVE your cute litte shoes!! bob! look at her shoes!!" lol

[Edited on June 12, 2009 at 9:35 AM. Reason : ]

6/12/2009 9:35:17 AM

6/15/2009 10:20:52 AM

glad to see everyone likes their ff's!

my doctors want me to take it easy for the next 8-10 weeks post surgery, with absolutely no running

they said an exercise bike would be fine though after about a month.

6/20/2009 10:13:05 PM

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"BAREFOOT RUNNING SHOES"

6/20/2009 10:18:44 PM

how do these hold up for people with no/small archs in their feet?

6/20/2009 10:27:00 PM

Is Great Outdoor in Cameron Village still the only place to get them in Raleigh?

6/22/2009 11:50:55 PM

Picked up a pair of KSOs today at Great Outdoor. Just wore them around today, getting use to them... first run tomorrow.

7/3/2009 12:31:21 AM

I've started doing my Crossfit workouts in my FFs. Tuesday (or was it Monday) involved running 2 1/2 miles in 1/2 mile intervals. No problems with the feet.

7/3/2009 4:46:53 AM

Ran the 3 mile trail at Umstead (loop behind the visitor center) and its was great. I meant to only run half of it and in intervals but I just kept chuggin' along because it was so much fun. No blisters, no hotspots, no cuts, no twisted ankles... I do have two bruises on my feet from some unusually prominent rocks in gravel areas but they will be fine.

7/4/2009 6:17:23 PM

Seeing the Foot arch thread posts about Vibrams reminded me of the new models coming out...

Courtesy of the best VFF site:
http://www.birthdayshoes.com/

All kangaroo leather with a thinner rubber sole that is bottom only. Available in October?
Performa: For women, very open top. Black, Maroon, Tan
Moc: For men and comes up a little higher on the foot, but still open. You can see the black and blue Moc models just behind the Performas in this pic.


Trek: Leather upper and more significant tread. The go-to trail shoe. KSO on steroids.


These are just crazy...


I will definitely be getting a pair of black Mocs for work.

7/28/2009 11:55:23 PM

Here is a better view of the one between the lace-ups (called the Bikila)

Looks like a pair of KSO's and some Nike Frees got it on.

7/29/2009 7:14:06 PM

just because the shoe is shaped like a foot does not mean you are running barefoot while wearing those.

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[Edited on July 29, 2009 at 7:26 PM. Reason : where can I get a pair of these things?]

7/29/2009 7:24:45 PM

Great outdoor Provision in Cameron Village.

And it is simulating barefoot if the sole is minimal. Its allowing your toes to spread for greater support and traction and simply offering a thin protection layer to prevent cuts and irritation. It is not remotely close to the thickness of a shoe sole. You still feel rocks, sticks, acorns, and cracks in the pavement. It looks a lot thicker than it is.

7/29/2009 7:35:00 PM

Tried running again today, hell even just a light jog, and my new nub still throbs with nearly every step. Perhaps its the impact?

Will the pain ever go away?

9/20/2009 5:53:55 PM

what you mean your new nub?

9/20/2009 5:59:04 PM

i got a new nub back in june. my old nub was shortened from just below my elbow to a few inches below my shoulder. hence the name, new nub.

9/20/2009 6:09:21 PM

but why did u get a new nub

9/20/2009 6:53:53 PM

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9/20/2009 6:59:01 PM

so joe, the surgery didn't even help with the pain in your nub??

also someone needs to tell this guy

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"godspeed in your recovery but too bad you're not gay (are you ?) you could have some crazy sodomizing fun"

that girls also have orifices into which a nub will fit.

9/20/2009 7:56:51 PM

I think Nerdchick wants to get nubbed

9/20/2009 8:14:33 PM

^^ doctors think my pain is still related to the displaced nerves when my arm was shortened. they say its related to the normal phantom pain that people get when they lose a limb, and it should subside within a year or so.

the pain doesn't really occur unless im doing something physical, like running. otherwise, it just feels like my fingers and wrist are tingling, which is kinda funny because i haven't felt my wrist in years. my elbow feels numb and stiff its so strange

so i should hopefully be able to start running again in a few months. ive been using a rowing machine in the mean time which is f'in awesome

9/20/2009 8:56:27 PM

Best wishes for your recovery! Is there like a rivalry in the one arm community of those with a big nub verses shoulder nub like you have now ... ?

PS I don't care how strong my feet could become, I won't wear those Five Fingers

looking good never takes a day off, joe. Never!

9/21/2009 9:29:12 PM

bigger nubs are far more functional. so it's not so much a rivalry, but pure envy

^

9/21/2009 9:34:04 PM

i had a dream about running barefoot while i was napping a while ago

9/21/2009 9:44:18 PM

I took the dog for a run a few days back barefoot after seeing Christopher Mcdougal on TDS. He's an advocate.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-august-18-2009/christopher-mcdougall

9/21/2009 9:57:34 PM

looks like i'll be getting a pair of either the vibram classic or the sprint.. any suggestions? and how should i get used to running barefoot? i'm worried about overdoing it too quickly.

9/24/2009 10:24:28 PM

My new pair came today!


I've had to ease back into barefeet.

[Edited on September 24, 2009 at 10:28 PM. Reason : ]

9/24/2009 10:27:58 PM

the shoes posted on this page blow my mind. i so fucking want these.

9/24/2009 10:28:46 PM

I'm joining the club. Looks like I should get a pair of those Vibrams; there's a really nice park three blocks away that I can run in, but every single damn tree there is a chestnut with the spiked fruits or a pine with little tiny baby pine cones. The whole place is littered with those shits right now, except for the sidewalks.

10/31/2009 8:55:49 PM

I have played thousands of hours of barefoot volleyball on sand and grass. It is amazing how fast your feet toughen up and then it is great. They do feel like raw hamburger meat the first few times if you overdo it, though, even on grass. I should try the barefoot running out here on my local golf course (they yell at me for running on it even when the course is closed, so I might as well become the "crazy barefoot" runner as well.)

This is a very awesome thread, btw. I am impressed with the barefoot hiking.

I can think of one true barefoot in the grass hazard: honey bees in the clover. I have been stung on the foot a few dozen times. Usually I just keep on going barefoot until I get stung a second time in the same day (I am stubborn.) Sadly, the honey bees are disappearing, so maybe it won't be a worry much longer.

P.S. free gargs!

10/31/2009 10:22:35 PM

ive stepped on a bee before, it hurt a lot and i had to hobble back to my home

yesterday i ran for the first time since june. i dont know if i even made it a mile before my feet started to hurt and my arm hurt even more. but it's a start! i was afraid my arm would never stop hurting

even though my v5f's are my primary footwear of choice for everyday stuffs, my feet were still tender from not running a lot. hopefully that will change and i'll be up to 10 miles before i know it!

11/14/2009 10:30:45 AM

im up to about 4 miles now before the arm pain kicks in. thinking about seeing a neurologist to see if there's a nerve or something rubbing against my nub bone or something. there's no reason it should take 7 months for a revision amputation to heal especially when there's no direct weight bearing on it.

ive got a great trainer that runs with me and who is also a masseur so he's able to work some magic and help get rid of the pain in lieu of taking painkillers.

1/10/2010 7:59:31 PM

The idea of this thread is absolutely hilarious.

What do you do when you step on a rock?

1/10/2010 8:07:02 PM

well i actually pay attention to where i run and try not to step on rocks, because they can hurt.

but tiny rocks and gravel don't affect me because my feet have toughened up.

1/10/2010 8:17:50 PM

thats why you wear shoes. so you can pay more attention to breathing/where youre going and not have to look at the ground the entire time. \

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those shoes are for rug munchers. just like that dyke in the picture has on.

1/10/2010 8:29:56 PM

trolly trolly trolly

[Edited on January 10, 2010 at 9:50 PM. Reason : and you do know that's fumbler wife right?]

1/10/2010 9:49:46 PM

^^yes, because all girls with short hair are gay. it's a rule.

haha FAIL

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ok so i'm joining the Y tomorrow, and i have a feeling that the balls of my feet will not like the elevated running track if i wear my 5fingers. i'm going to test it out first, but i'm not sure if i should get something like the nike free. i'd kinda like to have the nike+ thing too though. hmm...

[Edited on January 10, 2010 at 10:11 PM. Reason : ]

1/10/2010 10:06:53 PM

I was in my building's gym and some dude was running barefoot while the other 3 of us were running with shoes and he looked absolutely retarded. he was wearing those goofy looking shoes and stopping all the time and changing his pace like it was uncomfortable. I was amused.

also it was loud as hell (that's all)

[Edited on January 10, 2010 at 10:13 PM. Reason : .]

1/10/2010 10:10:27 PM

So I got a pair of the Vibrams for Christmas, and today I took my second test run with them. The first was with a friend of mine, and we took a really casual run in the freezing cold; my feet got numb and we were going fairly slow, so I didn't run any differently. Today though it was about 70 degrees out and I was by myself, so it was the first time I could really open up and run however I wanted.

It was like I had never run barefoot before, even though I've been doing it for about four months. I could run with good form on the balls of my feet about three times farther than I could when I was truly barefoot, and I was leaning forward more and going significantly faster; it was amazing. But I'm going to pay hell for it tomorrow! With the Vibrams on, I actually ran until my calves basically gave up from being on the balls of my feet for so long and so far. The trouble was it felt great until I stopped to stretch; I never felt like I had to lapse back into running heel-to-toe. Right up until the point where I had to limp home, that was one of the best runs of my life.

My calves feel tighter than they ever have, and I probably won't be able to walk tomorrow, but I can't wait to do that again. Once my calf and shin muscles get stronger, this is going to be great.

[Edited on January 11, 2010 at 2:26 AM. Reason : ]

1/11/2010 2:24:08 AM

Oh dear God, my calves are killing me today. I could still bike to work, but walking around the building is torture.

Best. Run. Ever.

1/11/2010 12:46:58 PM

i had the same thing the first couple of times. i walked like i had polio or something.

so has anyone tried the other barefoot type shoes? the ones besides the vibrams. nike, new balance, newton all make them. any other brands?

1/11/2010 1:43:15 PM

There's a triathlon shop near where I live that has had great things to say about the Newtons, and the employees all seem like pretty knowledgeable folks, albeit still salespeople. I have a friend who likes them too, though.

I tried the first-gen Nike Frees several years ago and didn't like them at all, but I wasn't into barefoot running back then and I'm sure they are different now anyway.

1/11/2010 1:55:14 PM

i'm very hesitant to go with nike. i've never liked them (fit-wise). that said, i haven't bought any in many many moons so i might go see what they have now. i need to go to raleigh.

oh, i did read that the newtons try to correct your stride and stuff, and that's kinda the reason i'm running barefoot. i don't want any correction.

[Edited on January 11, 2010 at 2:02 PM. Reason : ]

1/11/2010 1:59:44 PM

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"i had the same thing the first couple of times. i walked like i had polio or something."

Great. Now I have the song "Hey Ya" in my head, except instead of "Shake it like a Polaroid picture," it's "Walking like a polio victim."

1/11/2010 2:48:31 PM

hahahhhha

shake it like a polio victim hey ya shake it shake shake it

1/11/2010 2:49:55 PM

5 miles now

trying to be back up to 10 by summer

1/19/2010 9:41:25 PM

NPR did a thing on running barefoot this today, has some video of why it is better for you
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123031997

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"Study: Humans Were Born To Run Barefoot by Christopher Joyce January 27, 2010 Humans are excellent two-legged walkers. It's one of the things that make us such successful creatures. And there are some scientists who say we're naturally born runners as well, that our bodies evolved to run. Now, anthropologist Dan Lieberman, one of the proponents of the "human runner" school, concludes that we do it better without shoes. Video: A Look At Running With And Without Shoes He says human ancestors needed to run well — both away from big animals and after small, tasty ones, for example. He based that view on fossil bones. But lately he's been studying runners — living ones. Shoes Or No Shoes, That Is The Question It started at a lecture he gave before the Boston Marathon. A barefoot runner — someone who runs long distances without shoes — peppered the professor with questions he couldn't answer. So Lieberman took him to his lab at Harvard University. He had him run over a flat metal plate that measures the collisional force of a footfall. Lieberman says runners generate a lot of collisional force. "Most runners, when they land and they heel-strike — they land on their heel — they generate this sudden impulse, this sharp spike of force. So it's like someone hitting you on the heel with a hammer, about 1 1/2 to 3 times your body weight," he says. Two runners: one with shoes, one without. Benton et. al. Most shod runners land on their heels, which generates a sudden, sharp spike of force. Barefoot runners land farther forward, closer to the ball of their foot, which exerts much less force in comparison. But Lieberman was surprised by the extremely low force readings made by the barefoot runner. "He ran across the force plate, and he didn't have [a high spike], and I thought, gee, that's really amazing, and it kind of makes sense because that spike of force hurts, and I wonder if other barefoot runners do that." So Lieberman tested several groups of runners: Kenyans who'd been walking and running barefoot all their lives; Americans who grew up walking and running in shoes; and some who had switched from shoes to running barefoot. On The Ball Lieberman found that runners in shoes usually landed heel-first. Barefoot runners landed farther forward, either on the ball of their foot or somewhere in the middle of the foot, and then the heel came down — much less collisional force. And people who switched from shoes to barefoot running eventually, without prompting, adopted the barefoot style. Lieberman, who runs marathons himself, says the reason is simple. "It's pain avoidance. It's very easy to do. I mean, your body naturally tells you what to do," he says. Running shoes dampen the shock of a heel-first landing, so that's probably why shod people run that way, Lieberman says. But is that the most efficient way to run? Lieberman thinks not. "Turns out that the way in which barefoot runners run seems to store up more energy," he says. More Spring Out Of The Step To understand how that works, I talked to anthropologist Brian Richmond at George Washington University. He points out that the human foot has an arch with ligaments inside that stretch and contract with every footfall. "It allows the arch of the foot and the calf muscles to act as a better spring and to store up energy, and then give it back in the beginning of the next step," Richmond says. Think of a compressed mattress spring pushed down and then released. Richmond agrees with Lieberman that the front-first landing of barefoot running probably capitalizes on that spring mechanism more than heel-first landing — it gets more spring out of the spring. Richmond, in fact, has discovered fossilized footprints dating back 1 1/2 million years. Those human ancestors who left them had an arch. They were walking when they left the prints, but Richmond suspects that when they ran, they landed front-first. "It looks like this is how our ancestors have been running for a million years or more," he says. "It's only been in the last 10,000 years that we've had any kind of shoes, really." Lieberman published his findings in the journal Nature. He received research funding from a company that makes "minimal" shoes, which mimic barefoot conditions, but he adds that he received no personal income from the company. He also says he's not taking sides over which style of running is better or safer. "I mean, I think we have to be really, really careful about what we do and don't know. We have not done any injury studies; this is not an injury study," he says. That's next. "

1/27/2010 11:07:48 PM

I just want to say that I love my Vibrams that I picked up two years ago at the great outdoor provisions at cameron village.
They are going strong still, and are very comfortable still. I have well over 40 miles in them of walking/trails.

I have almost no arch BTW.

1/27/2010 11:38:50 PM