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keith says... 11/29/2006 12:45:12 PM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
Mama always said, life is like a box of chocolates... you never know which COACH you are going to get 11/29/2006 12:46:11 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Gotta SCREAM IT LOUD
CHIN FOR THE WIN
=> Chin ftw 11/29/2006 12:47:54 PM |
jamz0r All American 1612 Posts user info edit post |
M-My-My-My-momma-sai-my-momma- My momma said
11/29/2006 12:54:31 PM |
Spike All American 2249 Posts user info edit post |
I really dont think Cowher will take it but it's definitely worth a shot to offer it to him. All he can say is no. Who knows, we may get lucky. 11/29/2006 1:08:52 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Additionally, allow me to share a little something more that I find interesting - BEFORE Chuck Amato was fired, I was told by someone connected to a big Georgia booster that Donnan had made reference to this booster of his interest in the NC State job. But, what was most interesting is that Donnan had added a statement that he (paraphrased) “would even do the job on an interim basis if that is what State wanted”.
At the time I heard this I found this unprompted reference to being an interim coach interesting. Considering where we stand today, I find this fascinating.
We all know that IF Bill Cowher was ever going to be named head coach in Raleigh that he would have to bring with him an experienced and highly-qualified COLLEGE staff. The two pieces of the puzzle that are going to be most vital for Cowher will be: (1) an assistant who can help him maneuver the college system and (2) a keen COLLEGE offensive coordinator.
Well…who does that describe? If Jim Donnan would be willing to be the Assistant Head Coach and Offensive Coordinator when Cowher arrives would you NOT want to take this package deal?
NC State fans who love what Paul Johnson did at the Division 1-AA level certainly can’t complain with this idea. Like Johnson, Jim Donnan also won a 1-AA National Championships and 2 Coach of the Year honors while successfully scaring the hell out of Division One teams at Marshall. He also succeeded on a much higher level at Georgia than Johnson has at just Navy. (Donnan was 40-19 overall and 25-15 in the SEC)
In addition to coaching at Florida State, Donnan was the Offensive Coordinator of Oklahoma’s high powered offenses from 1985-1989 when the Sooners won 49 games, including 27 straight Big Eight contests and the 1985 National Championship.
Donnan is currently a part-time ESPN announcer who is not going to get another Head Coaching gig unless he does something else first. Even if he only wants to use the interim job as a stage to get another head job then what harm is there? State would get one of the best head coaches of the 1980s and 1990s on our sideline who is obviously driven to succeed as much as he can with his opportunity. I’ve got no problem with that. If he stays then you get Donnan’s offensive success and knowledge of the college game packaged with Bill Cowher’s Super Bowl trophy and NFL success That ain’t too bad.
Again, remember that these suggestions are designed to be ‘win-win’ for all involved and:
are obviously based on a situation where Cowher is committed to NC State but the logistics can’t immediately come together
use Jim Donnan as a specific example that fits the proposed solution. There obviously could be many other coaches that also fit the solution. " |
This makes me go 11/29/2006 1:09:56 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
^complicated scenario. What if Donnan takes us to a BCS bowl in 2 years?
The big question would then be: Would the chin still step in?
[Edited on November 29, 2006 at 1:16 PM. Reason : f] 11/29/2006 1:16:09 PM |
lthlsnke260 Veteran 466 Posts user info edit post |
Donnan would only be coach for 1 year 11/29/2006 1:17:25 PM |
ENDContra All American 5160 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Source? 11/29/2006 1:19:29 PM |
lthlsnke260 Veteran 466 Posts user info edit post |
It's from StateFansNation
http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/archives/2006/11/29/cowhers-contract-interim-solution/ 11/29/2006 1:20:22 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What if Donnan takes us to a BCS bowl in 2 years?" |
as much as i'd love bill cowher and i love the fact that he wants to end his career coaching his alma mater, i find it hard to be upset with that situation.11/29/2006 1:44:27 PM |
lthlsnke260 Veteran 466 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Proposed Solution IF these three variable are all true AND Bill Cowher would commit to be NC State’s Head Football coach starting in 2008, then why wouldn’t NC State consider an INTERIM HEAD COACH for 2007?
If Cowher truly wants the job and the problem is truly nothing more than logistics, then why wouldn’t NC State consider an INTERIM HEAD COACH for 2007?" |
Donnan would only be the head coach for 1 year. It says Cowher would take over in 2008.11/29/2006 1:50:50 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
Ok
You guys and all State fans are fucking stupid if taking a random interim coach for next year while waiting for Cowher seems like a good idea.
I mean, beyond stupid, you guys are at a point where you better be tied up to a breathing machine. Why, if we were going to have an interim coach, would we have fired Chuck Amato.
OH THATS RIGHT
YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT
LIKE STATEFANSNATIONS
AND HALF OF PACKPRIDE. 11/29/2006 2:13:56 PM |
lthlsnke260 Veteran 466 Posts user info edit post |
^did you read the link? Even the author says the probability of that scenario happening is 1%, but they were just having fun
[Edited on November 29, 2006 at 2:17 PM. Reason : .] 11/29/2006 2:15:51 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
not to mention a big part of the point was to retain the suggested interim coach, something that i doubt they would want to do with Amato. 11/29/2006 2:20:47 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
I dont think this Sandsanta kid knows anything about our coaching situation.
ANYTHING or ANYONE is an improvement over Chuck. Donnan as an interim would be WONDERFUL for this place as our offense would actually score, we would be respected, have a good team and finally be able to compete knowing soon the big man is coming in.
Anything is better than Chuck though THAT is why we kicked him to the curb because if there was another year of Chuck the donors were pulling funds, money would be gone and support for the team, administration and NC State as a whole would decrease at a tremendous rate.
THAT is why we got rid of Chuck and if you cant begin to understand that or why we needed to fire him then you may just need to look into treatment for downs. 11/29/2006 2:24:14 PM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I dont think this Sandsanta kid knows anything about our coaching situation. " |
and you know any more?
[Edited on November 29, 2006 at 2:27 PM. Reason : h]11/29/2006 2:26:51 PM |
Aristotle Suspended 2231 Posts user info edit post |
Alot of links between NC State, Lee fowler and Bill Cowher starting to show up in the latest chatter graphs.
here is an old chatter graph.
11/29/2006 3:21:08 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
what the fuck 11/29/2006 3:22:03 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
Dude
Didn't you even say you would stop posting on the wolf web if Barnes didn't end up here? 11/29/2006 3:22:35 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
what the hell? 11/29/2006 3:23:10 PM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
that clears things up. he is definately coming here. 11/29/2006 3:24:45 PM |
beergolftile All American 9030 Posts user info edit post |
"Eric Hyman"
theres a fucking blast from the past. 11/29/2006 3:38:06 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and you know any more?" |
actually yes, yes I prolly do...more than most people on tww thats for sure
theres a few that may know about as much or bits and pieces such as gunzz does and maybe tl and others
as for sandsanta...no I never said that sorry, wrong guy.
I said if Texas beat USC last year i wouldnt post here for awhile. I held up that promise for awhile.11/29/2006 3:42:34 PM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
ESPN & the ESPN Radio guys seem to think that all the clues say he is coming 11/29/2006 4:04:38 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Don't tease us like that 11/29/2006 4:06:35 PM |
EVroccck Cash$Millionaire 10294 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Eric Hyman"
theres a fucking blast from the past." |
we should be so lucky to have him here again!11/29/2006 4:06:42 PM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
i have a huge clue 11/29/2006 4:07:51 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
^x10 does that mean bennerman loves julius hodge 11/29/2006 4:09:36 PM |
SteveO All American 728 Posts user info edit post |
cowher is out....he just told the media 11/29/2006 4:31:47 PM |
spydyrwyr All American 3021 Posts user info edit post |
what's the source? 11/29/2006 4:33:53 PM |
humandrive All American 18286 Posts user info edit post |
good now people will shut up about it
wait they still won't
11/29/2006 4:34:14 PM |
SteveO All American 728 Posts user info edit post |
"What’s your reaction to being at the top of the NC State search? First of all, let me just say I have great admiration and respect for coach Amato and what he’s done since he went down there. I’m very flattered to hear some of the things that have been coming out, but I’m not a candidate. I have a job here and my focus really is on this job right here, so you can take me off the list. I am flattered. It’s a super program and I’m sure that they’ll get a very qualified coach who’s going to walk into a good situation"
From his talk to the media today 11/29/2006 4:34:57 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
It's true
He just addressed it and said he wasn't interested
Paul Johnson, come on down 11/29/2006 4:38:11 PM |
wlfpckJoe All American 1322 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_481956.html 11/29/2006 4:39:24 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
just like jürgen klinsmann said he won't coach usa soccer, am i right?!
kidding.
[Edited on November 29, 2006 at 4:41 PM. Reason : jokes] 11/29/2006 4:39:26 PM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
YEAH WELL WE WANTED PJ ANYWAY 11/29/2006 4:40:37 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Some of that is coach speak, though.
He said he hadn't been contacted about it. We all know that's untrue.
Still, We all knew this would likely be the result.
Time to move on.
Quote : | "just like jürgen klinsmann said he won't coach usa soccer, am i right?! " |
And Roy Williams didn't give a shit about North Carolina
[Edited on November 29, 2006 at 4:42 PM. Reason : Roy]11/29/2006 4:41:48 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
GIMMIE!!!!!!!!!! NORM CHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11/29/2006 4:42:22 PM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
fowler was supposably in pittsburgh.
why isn't anyone tracking that 11/29/2006 4:42:53 PM |
spydyrwyr All American 3021 Posts user info edit post |
"supposedly" no such word as "supposably"... damn that's one of my pet peeves, sorry to digress.
[Edited on November 29, 2006 at 4:47 PM. Reason : .] 11/29/2006 4:45:36 PM |
golfpack All American 2278 Posts user info edit post |
agreed...Chow is next 11/29/2006 4:46:03 PM |
stoncuttr All American 2149 Posts user info edit post |
If its PJ the presser will be sometime after the Army/Navy game. The chatter out of 'Bama is they are going to offer PJ as well. 11/29/2006 4:48:29 PM |
CPanther90 Veteran 286 Posts user info edit post |
chow is apparently going to Arizona State as OC with Dave McGinnis as HC (per ASU boards & phoenix papers) 11/29/2006 4:49:19 PM |
golfpack All American 2278 Posts user info edit post |
^ link? 11/29/2006 4:50:27 PM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
were gonna get so fucked on this deal 11/29/2006 4:51:49 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
NOOOO C'MON NORM YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND 11/29/2006 4:52:06 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
got any links on the chow thing? the only ASU board ive looked at has nothing about chow accepting anything 11/29/2006 4:54:04 PM |
BearWhoDrive All American 5385 Posts user info edit post |
Has is occurred to anyone that perhaps we can get Cowher by promising him the chance to continue to make Butch Davis look silly? 11/29/2006 4:55:42 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
norm chow's not happening, mark it down. he's too old anyway, as brilliant as he is. 11/29/2006 5:02:26 PM |