huh?

2/14/2007 2:15:35 PM

Every time we I end up responding to troll twista, you always make a comment about ignoring it.

Why do you even have to make the comment? Do you feel somehow above the argument by not getting in the argument directly?

2/14/2007 2:17:45 PM

yes.

2/14/2007 2:20:18 PM

So I guess the only way to get me to ignore him is for you to not ignore it all yourself...oh wait...

2/14/2007 2:32:46 PM

here's a question: should there be public specialized schools of any sort?

2/14/2007 2:34:13 PM

I think he's saying that you're the one making the big deal out of it and that you should spearhead this mission to get him suspended yourself, that or get over it



if thats what you do though, go ahead and get yourself suspended while you're at it

2/14/2007 2:47:09 PM

here's a question: should there be public specialized schools of any sort?

2/14/2007 2:51:40 PM

i think its perfectly fine to have a school that emphasizes math...or a school that emphasizes science....i just think the territory becomes a little shakier when a school specializes in something a little more disconnected from the typical courseload and is still a public school...course i guess as long as nobody is forced to go there based on where they live then anybody would have the option of not going to that particular school

2/14/2007 3:04:37 PM

i'm pretty sure no one would be forced to go to this school.

2/14/2007 3:06:42 PM

[Edited on February 14, 2007 at 3:16 PM. Reason : this is so fucking poinltess]

2/14/2007 3:13:47 PM

I'm absolutely positive no one will be forced to go to this school.

Thus, the "magnet" title.

2/14/2007 3:48:16 PM

i guess i was misled by the initial article which doesnt mention 'magnet' or 'immersion' but DOES mention 'public'

course it was a pretty damn short article so no surprise it doesnt go into detail

2/14/2007 3:50:02 PM

There's that whole "knowing the subject you're debating" thing, again.

2/14/2007 3:59:31 PM

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"Boone Veteran 337 Posts user info edit post There's that whole "knowing the subject you're debating" thing, again."

Can we please stop trolling TreeTwista?!

2/14/2007 4:01:26 PM

Boone have you debated anything in this thread? Or just demeaned people who asked questions? By the way if you go into a thread and aren't explicitly familiar with the subject matter, I guess you shouldn't post in there. I mean, this place isn't for learning or hearing new perspectives...its about people who already know everything, agreeing with each other, right?

2/14/2007 4:04:16 PM

Of course you can post. But don't you think those posts would be questions because of your lack of knowledge rather than statements feigning it?

[Edited on February 14, 2007 at 4:08 PM. Reason : a]

2/14/2007 4:07:26 PM

Serious question: now that you've realized what this school is about, is there anything to debate?

2/14/2007 4:07:49 PM

^if theres nothing to debate then why have you posted in this thread at all

2/14/2007 4:11:47 PM

To correct the misunderstandings. A couple people thought that this school was some sort of violation of the Constitution. Now they don't.

So your answer's "no" then?

2/14/2007 4:16:05 PM

actually i could still have some discussions about this...i think everyone but you enjoys the subject and discussing it...but since you know everything there is to know about it, theres really no point for you to be here...you're already dumber just from even addressing us peons

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"To correct the misunderstandings"

through sarcasm and shit talking! but you have a problem with ME arguing things, not because of my stance, but the way I get my point across...I should stick to intelligent debate tactics, like sarcasm and shit talking like you!

[Edited on February 14, 2007 at 4:20 PM. Reason : .]

2/14/2007 4:19:16 PM

So what exactly is there left to discuss?

2/14/2007 4:22:54 PM

I agree with TreeTwista

~CW

2/14/2007 4:24:37 PM

^^well we could discuss why the fuck you have a raging hard-on for immersion schools

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"They're language immersion schools. I hella wish my kid will be able to be in one someday."

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"they're a fantastic idea"

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"it's a fan-freaking-tastic idea"

sounds like if you had your way, you would choose for all kids to go to immersion schools...why do you feel so strongly about them? How did your time at immersion school effect you? Or are you just going off what some teachers have been teaching you about other forms of teaching?

[Edited on February 14, 2007 at 4:26 PM. Reason : ^^]

2/14/2007 4:26:06 PM

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"sounds like if you had your way, you would choose for all kids to go to immersion schools...why do you feel so strongly about them? How did your time at immersion school effect you? Or are you just going off what some teachers have been teaching you about other forms of teaching?"

It's been demonstrated that early immersion is the best way to teach kids a second language. It also in no way harms achievement in any other subject.

Why shouldn't we have it again?

Because you're losing the argument and this is the last straw to grab on to? Your early skepticism of this school had nothing to do with the finer points of language education.

2/14/2007 4:39:36 PM

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"Or are you just going off what some teachers have been teaching you about other forms of teaching?"

OH GOD BOONE, YOU'RE ACTUALLY BELIEVING WHAT YOUR INSTRUCTORS ARE TELLING YOU?

2/14/2007 4:49:14 PM

i no rite.

But that's a different can of worms. We're dumb if we trust academia, you know.

2/14/2007 4:57:38 PM

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"OH GOD BOONE, YOU'RE ACTUALLY BELIEVING WHAT YOUR INSTRUCTORS ARE TELLING YOU?"

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"But that's a different can of worms. We're dumb if we trust academia, you know"

yall dont believe what my instructors told me about global climate change

but thats just another double standard that you're too blind to notice

you dont trust the instructors/academia who teach 400 and 500 level MEA classes...they must be paid by the oil companies!

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"It's been demonstrated that early immersion is the best way to teach kids a second language. It also in no way harms achievement in any other subject."

A. that claim means nothing without a source to back it up
B. many people in here are saying the arabic culture would be taught as well...not just the language...are they all wrong too? why arent you jocking their every post?

[Edited on February 14, 2007 at 5:02 PM. Reason : .]

2/14/2007 4:58:29 PM

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"yall dont believe what my instructors told me about global climate change"

You just equated evidence about climate change with evidence about language immersion. It's pretty obvious one is easier to measure than the other.

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"many people in here are saying the arabic culture would be taught as well...not just the language...are they all wrong too? why arent you jocking their every post?"

That [i]is[i] what language immersion is about. I don't think he is arguing a point about that.

As to point A, educate yourself :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_immersion

[Edited on February 14, 2007 at 5:09 PM. Reason : a]

2/14/2007 5:09:40 PM

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"that claim means nothing without a source to back it up"

Take your pick:

http://www.carla.umn.edu/immersion/bibliographies/one-way.html

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"many people in here are saying the arabic culture would be taught as well...not just the language...are they all wrong too? why arent you jocking their every post?"

How/why would you teach a language class without exposing the students to the cultures that speak the language?

2/14/2007 5:17:15 PM

this thread is devoid of reason.

2/14/2007 6:02:22 PM

2/14/2007 8:42:48 PM

bttt

(since the Georgia school thread is going on)

[Edited on March 9, 2007 at 4:11 PM. Reason : .]

3/9/2007 4:11:14 PM

You realize this thread impugns your POV more than the other?

3/9/2007 4:23:57 PM

nope

i just wonder how many people in this thread saying "yeah whats wrong with an arabic immersion school?" are going to be in the other thread like "this is a danerous idea and serves no place in the public school"

you act like I'm the only hypocrite or something?

3/9/2007 4:27:13 PM

First, this is an entire charter type of school that also deals with the culture, and the stated reason for this much different (to potentially have more pro-American people to serve as translators and experts in arabic culture for future affairs with the mid-east), and secondly, most people in the other thread aren't against the Bible class, but are pointing out it likely originates for reasons other than just teaching about history.

3/9/2007 4:39:47 PM

^^i have no problem with either, as long as they're implemented in a scholarly/secular way.

[Edited on March 9, 2007 at 4:42 PM. Reason : 're]

3/9/2007 4:42:38 PM

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"i just wonder how many people in this thread saying "yeah whats wrong with an arabic immersion school?" are going to be in the other thread like "this is a danerous idea and serves no place in the public school""

i'm the opposite, sorta. I'm all for the arabic school, just not a public arabic school.

3/9/2007 4:53:09 PM

also arabic isn't a religion

3/9/2007 6:37:15 PM

I don't particularly see the value in an Arabic immersion school here in the US, unless this was pushed by the US Military to train and recruit native Arab linguists.

3/9/2007 6:40:12 PM

^^yeah but its been mentioned plenty of times in this thread that the arabic immersion school involves the entire arabic culture...not just the language, but the entire culture...which includes Islamn

3/9/2007 6:49:12 PM

as would be expected. i have no problem with teaching about religion in school. it's a very relevant topic for understanding history, literature and art. the problem comes when religion is taught as truth or history.

3/9/2007 6:51:46 PM

i agree

i mean i'm an agnostic...it just seems that most people in TSB (me included) have different views on very similar situations based on their own personal opinions

3/9/2007 7:00:57 PM