pretty decent article in the d00kie student paper today...

http://tinyurl.com/3xsmfk

3/6/2007 2:39:49 PM

you gotta remember paulus and mcroberts are only sophmores and they are both good players at this point. they still have 2 years for improvement. just because all these nba players and tyler are soo good at young ages people expect too much of freshmen and sophmores.

3/6/2007 2:41:28 PM

^^ decent article, haha yeah right.

sounded like a whiny student. He made excuses for why Hansblow shouldn't have been in the game and then rounded out with this winner: "He had to foul Hansbrough to prevent him from scoring". Give me a break.

3/6/2007 3:11:02 PM

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"TooPoopedToPop posted 3/06/07 @ 8:39 AM EST And this is why EVERYONE hates Duke and everything about it and maybe, just maybe, Duke deserves to be hated -- arrogant students, a clueless coach and the man lust of Billy Packer. Alex -- the brainwashing is obviously completed to suggest that a UNC kid is at fault because he was hustling and the Duke kids failed an elementary task -- boxing out. And, OMG, they had starters on the floor at the end while, oops, we had starters on the floor? Oh, the humanity! And then there's Coach K-Whine and his comment -- "The person it's most unfortunate for is Gerald." Uh no, K-Whine, that would be the kid with the busted schnoggle. And Billy Packer? Wipe the drool off your face, Gerald's not going home with you on Saturday night no matter how many times you say it wasn't his fault. "

3/6/2007 3:19:20 PM

^ best comment of the bunch

and reason 8,385,039 why I hate the elitist bastards that are Duke students and fans

3/6/2007 3:23:43 PM

Why was Henderson suspended?
http://www.newsobserver.com/758/story/550092.html

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""The first time an individual participates in a fight during the season (including exhibition games), the individual shall be suspended from participating in the team's next regular-season game (not an exhibition contest), including tournament competition." The NCAA defines "fighting" as: a) An attempt to strike an opponent with the arms, hands, legs or feet b) An attempt to punch or kick an opponent, regardless of whether contact is made c) An attempt to instigate a fight by committing an unsportsmanlike act toward an opponent that causes the opponent to retaliate by fighting."

My question is: why wasn't Slappy Hansblow suspended?
(re: Costner incident)

also here's a good blog entry http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/tech/entries/2007/02/06/thats_not_unspo.html

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 3:41 PM. Reason : ...]

3/6/2007 3:31:17 PM

(btw I dont like Duke or UNC)

So for people saying "Coach K has too many All Americans to have this shitty 22-9 year"

obviously his record means we expect Duke to be great...thats fine

But how did UNC do last year after they lost their stars? They didnt do great...they lost their big men (May, Felton, McCants, etc) and basically had a rebuilding season...still got to the NCAA tourney but didnt do awesome

Well Duke lost Shelden and Redick...both ACC All 1st Team last year...not exactly losing scrubs...and they are 22-9 in this rebuilding year

what seems so out of the ordinary? no program wins 30 games a year every year

^good point...if you go by the rule book, Hansbrough's "oh shit he outrebounded me, I am mad, I will throw a punch" move should have gotten him suspended one game

course if the elbow to hansbrough hadnt drawn blood we wouldnt even be talking about tis

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 3:40 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2007 3:39:09 PM

And we said the same shit about UNC last year... though they weren't as highly rated preseason as Duke was this year at all. No one is talking about UNC and how they underperformed in this thread (there have been like 12 others so far this year about that very topic) so I don't know why you have been so adamant to bring that up in every post today..

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"My question is: why wasn't Slappy Hansblow suspended?"

Because there was no way to determine if he meant to do it. We can speculate all we want but the situation isn't even relevant to this discussion. If you read the reasons why Henderson was ejected you would realize that it wasn't because he intended to hurt him but because it was an excessively flagrant foul (which in turn is considered 'fighting' just for the sake of that rule)

It is absolutely stupid to try and figure out what ANY players intentions are on a play like that. Obviously if the guy looks at him, cocks back, and throws a punch his intentions are clear. In both these cases the intention was certainly not clear (neither one was even looking at the other player -- Henderson on Hansbro and Hansbro on Costner).

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 3:51 PM. Reason : x]

3/6/2007 3:45:40 PM

If Duke gets Patterson which is likely, they will have without a doubt the #1 class. Also im talkin recruiting and not how they pan out in college like i said before. I mean great example Randolph he came in as one of the top players and tanked but that still doesnt mean the recruiting is down because he did not pan out. Im just arguing against the idea that someone said Dukes recruiting is down.

3/6/2007 4:02:10 PM

^^ Then what in the world was the technical for?



[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 4:21 PM. Reason : ...]

3/6/2007 4:03:35 PM

There is intent in all 3 sections of the rule. Deciding if there was an attempt to hit someone is completely intent driven. There was a T because they can't reverse the call once they made it. Once they looked at the tape they decided that it wasn't serious enough to eject/suspend him.

I think Hansbrough is a pain in the ass to play against and believe me I don't blame people for wanting to punch him in the nose but I'm not going to sit here and say things I don't believe...

My personal speculation is that neither Hansbrough or Henderson intentionally tried to hit another player. Henderson was ejected because of the overly physical contact, nothing more. I'm fine with that decision. If Hansbrough had made contact with Costner, even incidental if he was pissed at himself, I'd be fine with him being ejected/suspended (actually I'd be more than fine.. I would expect it). If he wanted to hit Costner he would have is the way I look at that incident..

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 4:09 PM. Reason : x]

3/6/2007 4:07:02 PM

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"wasn't because he intended to hurt him but because it was an excessively flagrant foul"

pretty much the only reason for the ejection was because Hansbrough was bleeding like a bitch. Anyways my biggest problem if why the hell is hansbrough trying to score again up 12 with 14 seconds left and the shot clock off. Hopefully he and roy learned their lessons.

3/6/2007 4:10:06 PM

How does one 'bleed like a bitch?' Are you saying you wouldn't bleed if you got drilled with an elbow full force right in the nose? I must be a bitch too because when I got elbowed in the nose playing bball a few weeks ago I bled a bit..

As far as scoring late. I don't have a problem with it. Duke does it all the time too and I don't have a problem with it then either. This isn't fucking peewee. If you don't like them scoring, then box out on FTs and play some D. Duke was still fouling when UNC was trying to run the clock out the previous possession so why should the other team stop..

Oh and Fuck the Phillies.

3/6/2007 4:14:24 PM

haha

only pussies bleed man!!!

3/6/2007 4:14:50 PM

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"pretty decent article in the d00kie student paper today... http://tinyurl.com/3xsmfk"

yeah, that was "decent" so long as we're using some sort of definition of "decent" that conveys "really shitty and pathetic"

3/6/2007 4:15:00 PM

I think the rulings are just at odds. That's all.

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 4:17 PM. Reason : ...]

3/6/2007 4:15:05 PM

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"But how did UNC do last year after they lost their stars? They didnt do great...they lost their big men (May, Felton, McCants, etc) and basically had a rebuilding season...still got to the NCAA tourney but didnt do awesome Well Duke lost Shelden and Redick...both ACC All 1st Team last year...not exactly losing scrubs...and they are 22-9 in this rebuilding year what seems so out of the ordinary? no program wins 30 games a year every year"

After minutes of laughing, I have now composed myself to let you know that UNC lost it's top 7 scorers in 05 (and when did Felton become part of the "big" men? Let me let you in on a secret, you only have 12 scholarship players, so UNC lost over half thier team essentially, and obviously the entire nucleus of the team, and still came back to go to the ACC Semi's and win a game in the NCAA tourney. Duke lost Dockery, Redick, and SheWill (3 starters), and returned 3 McD all americans with experience in Paulus, Mcroberts, and Nelson. No way to compare Carolina's absolute attrition with Duke losing 3 players. No excuses for coach K.

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 4:16 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2007 4:15:31 PM

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"An attempt is different than an intention. I shouldn't have to spell that out for you. "

What the hell are you talking about. In this excample, in order to figure out if what Hansbrough actually did to Costner was an attempted punch you certainly need to know intent. He wasn't even looking at him so it's pretty hard to argue that his intent was to attempt to hit Costner..

Alright, I'm done with this thread. There are only like 1, maybe 2 people that are capable of even speaking rationally on this topic anymore and I'm putting off doing real work here to keep it up..

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 4:17 PM. Reason : x]

3/6/2007 4:17:25 PM

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"Quote : "pretty decent article in the d00kie student paper today... http://tinyurl.com/3xsmfk" yeah, that was "decent" so long as we're using some sort of definition of "decent" that conveys "really shitty and pathetic" "

Expect nothing less from Duke writers. They are all pretty much self-serving snobs who view the world through rose tinted glasses. Beat the HELL outtof UNC writers though. Too bad we have to be privvy to UNC writers all over the local news stations, N&O, Indie, etc.... Hell we cant even keep those bastards out of the technician ! (what was that chicks name again? michelle?)

3/6/2007 4:25:08 PM

Duke students are morons, they have no idea when it comes to sports in general, let alone basketball. Most of them aren't aware of collegiate sports in the first place before they enroll. Also, keep adding to the fuel all you media outlets by recounting the incidents that Hansbrough got a raw deal/ Henderson was just playing hard, only means Hansblow will get EVERY call in Tampa, idiots, all of them. My favorite is when Duke students bring up the shot by Jeff Capel in 95 as if that shot won the game, I've corrected several young Duke fans (under 30) about this to their dismay, that highlight by ESPN of the shot in 95 embarasses mroe Duke fans than anything.

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 4:32 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2007 4:31:20 PM

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"After minutes of laughing, I have now composed myself to let you know that UNC lost it's top 7 scorers in 05 (and when did Felton become part of the "big" men?"

when did mccants become a "big man" if you're taking it literally to mean frontcourt players and not BIG TIME players which is what I meant?

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"Let me let you in on a secret, you only have 12 scholarship players, so UNC lost over half thier team essentially, and obviously the entire nucleus of the team"

\

so UNC lost over half their team....ok...Duke lost half its scoring and most of their leadership....so?

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"and still came back to go to the ACC Semi's and win a game in the NCAA tourney."

And we havent played the ACC or NCAA tourneys this year....so your point is?

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"No excuses for coach K."

how come Roy cant even win the conference outright? its a down year for the ACC and Roy loses to NC FUCKING STATE and gets SWEPT by a FOOTBALL school in virginia...no excuses for Roy

you act like Roy doesnt have a team full of all americans too...yet they cant even beat virginia tech...no excuses Roy

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 4:35 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2007 4:34:22 PM

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"when did mccants become a "big man" if you're taking it literally to mean frontcourt players and not BIG TIME players which is what I meant?"

Well i was just going to let McCants go and be less argumentative, but I couldn't let Felton slide, but now I see what you meant by "big"

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"so UNC lost over half their team....ok...Duke lost half its scoring and most of their leadership....so?"

UNC lost like 91% of it's scoring, which is more than "over half" if you didn't know. And you bring up leadership, what a riot, I guess the top 7 scorers that UNC lost didn't take their leadership with them, no I got it, Rey Terry was keeping it from All ACC Felton, May, and Mcants!!!!! This is a hilarious counter on your part hours worth of entertainment.

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"And we havent played the ACC or NCAA tourneys this year....so your point is?"

Ill hold onto this for the next two weeks, for now, you're in the clear with this point.

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"how come Roy cant even win the conference outright? its a down year for the ACC and Roy loses to NC FUCKING STATE and gets SWEPT by a FOOTBALL school in virginia...no excuses for Roy "

UNc got swept by virginia this year???? WRONG, in fact they were 1-0 which is why they were given the #1 seed in Tampa to begin with...Roy can't win the conference outright in only his 4th year, what a loser!!!! this is too good.....

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"you act like Roy doesnt have a team full of all americans too...yet they cant even beat virginia tech...no excuses Roy"

Did Duke beat Va Tech this season??? You might want to include a comparison that Duke did achieve before you attack UNC for the same deficiency. You are the man, I don't think you could try and be display a more sincere lack of knowledge regarding ACC hoops.

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 4:51 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2007 4:46:28 PM

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"UNc got swept by virginia this year???? WRONG"

wow what an idiot...anyone knows that "football school in virginia" is virginia tech (the virginia in virginia tech usually helps people figure that one out)

3/6/2007 4:50:52 PM

^^he meant VA Tech you fucking retard.

you have "LOST" this battle by a landslide.

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 4:51 PM. Reason : asdf]

3/6/2007 4:51:35 PM

you're right, like whenever we see an article about NC State and they call us UNC in the midwest, there are never any angry threads to get started on that , sure aren't too many two way streets in sports talk. I'll start using Georgia and Georgia Tech interchangeably and every other school and I'm sure it will be crystal clear. For all I knew from the posts the guy makes, he may have actually believed UVA was the football school in the state of Virginia.

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"(the virginia in virginia tech usually helps people figure that one out)"

When you subtract "tech" from "virginia tech" you get an entirely different school, much like "georgia tech, texas tech, etc." Of course I know Va tech is the football school, I can't read minds about others knowledge from anything other than what they post.

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 5:02 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2007 4:52:42 PM

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"he may have actually believed UVA was the football school in the state of Virginia"

you're the only one who interpreted my comment that way

do you have any points to make since all the points you tried to make before were shot down from all sides?

if you're trying to convince people to not like duke, you dont have much work to do cause most of us dont like duke (me included)

but if you think you're going to use Carolina to get us to hate Duke on an NC State board...well you're clueless like silverstone

oh btw...you must have missed this

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"yet they cant even beat virginia tech"

same post...you must've missed it since you were laughing too hard at the points you thought you were making

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 5:02 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2007 5:01:51 PM

You win, I hate Duke and UNC like every other student here, but when you use blatant mistruths to aid your hatred, it doesn't look good to people who are not state fans (which believe it or not, there are some that exist).

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"do you have any points to make since all the points you tried to make before were shot down from all sides?"

More hilarity I see, you didn't shoot down any of my points whatsoever. I guess if opinions like yours were just prefaced with I hate UNC and Duke so much that the below opinions may be skewed it would sound a lot better. I used stats and facts to back up my arguments. You use terms like "leadership" (as if UNC's top 7 scorers of a national champ. team didn't have it??) and other irrlevant diction that hasn't even refuted a single one of my points?

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 5:11 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2007 5:07:10 PM

well you conceded half of my points based on misunderstanding, ie "big men" etc...which is fine

but YOU misread virginia tech as virginia, not me

i think you're just upset that UNC is underperforming so much this year since you have a "I love the Tarheels" tattoo on your buttcheek

but seriously...all i was saying is that K and Roy are in the same boat...they both have 20+ wins and single digit losses...neither of them really recruit anything OTHER than all americans...and just because UNC lost 7 players you act like any of them INDIVIDUALLY was as important individually as Redick or Shelden? Shit, Duke lost Dockery, Redick, Williams....UNC lost Felton, May, McCants, Jawad, Marvin...feel free to name the other players if you think they were so important

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"You use terms like "leadership" (as if UNC's top 7 scorers of a national champ. team didn't have it??)"

no i never once even implied that...i pretty much agreed UNC lost scoring, leadership, etc and simply pointed out that Duke had lost the same thing

I dont know why you cant see all the similarities to Duke this year and UNC last year, cause theres a shitload of them

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 5:16 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2007 5:13:03 PM

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"I mean great example Randolph he came in as one of the top players and tanked but that still doesnt mean the recruiting is down because he did not pan out"

he didn't "tank", K tried to make him a center and he's not

3/6/2007 5:18:27 PM

Oh now I got it, you think I like UNC....I gotcha, well let me explain in all seriousness. Did I talk smack after we beat UNC this season to my UNC friends, absolutely not (except for my UNC friend that called me because he goes to APP and said we got lucky) because they have laid the wood to us over the previous 6 times they played us. If being 1-7 over our last 8 contests makes you feel the need to gloat, have at it, I shoot for slightly higher percentages. They also have a pretty good history, while ours is substantial compared to 90% of NCAA programs, we don't compare with UNC's, sorry to bring this up. I'm more interested in being a stable fan of my school without blurting out ridiculous diatribes full of inaccurate statments simply because "I hate UNC soooooooo much." Same principle with Duke. If we beat them in basketball, I don't paint the town red, I say "bout time" and celebrate a little more modestly. Rushing the court when you beat these teams is the biggest subconscious compliment you can give them. I pray one day teams will rush the court when we play on the road, woudln't that be good?

Just curious, when Gminski delivered his opinions about our program a few years ago, did it make you screaming mad???

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"feel free to name the other players if you think they were so important"

I'm well aware you're setting the trap, but you must have missed Jackie Manuel totally defensively dominating our beloved Hodge that year ( go ahead and bring out the "i love UNC" arfument even though I post facts rather than opinion)

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"I dont know why you cant see all the similarities to Duke this year and UNC last year, cause theres a shitload of them"

There are more differences and I pointed them out in previous posts which you apprantly shot down, only I can't find that info.

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"no i never once even implied that...i pretty much agreed UNC lost scoring, leadership, etc and simply pointed out that Duke had lost the same thing"

Anyone can see that losing May, Felton, Mccants, Manuel, Jawad W, Marvin W, M. scott while returning Rey Terry, Noeland byron sanders is much more of an attrition than losing SheWill, Redick, and Dockery AND returning McRoberts, Paulus, and Demarcus Nelson.....Tell you what let's play 3 on 3. I'll take Paulus, mcroberts and Nelson, you can have Noel, Terry, and B. Sanders and we would see who would win....See what Im getting at?



[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 5:30 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2007 5:19:50 PM

look...believe it or not, the insinuation that you had a "I <3 Tarheels" tattoo was a joke

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"you must have missed Jackie Manuel totally defensively dominating our beloved Hodge that year "

you arent just referring to the one dunk over hodge and the one block of hodge's dunk are you? thats not "that year" is it?

and Manuel...boy when you're talking about losing scoring you have to mention Manuel...I mean he was pretty much their leading scorer...except for McCants and May and Felton and Jawad and Marvin and maybe even Noel

I still think there are plenty of similarities in Duke this year and UNC last year...for example:

- Lost their best players / scorers / leaders
- Started the next year with a bunch of AAs
- Anytime either school loses more than 5 games, its a down year

so what are the differences? That 4 UNC players scored what 3 Duke players scored? That one school has 10 All Americans and the other has 11?

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"I'll take paulus, mcroberts and Nelson, you can have Noel, Terry, and B. Sanders"

interesting...you get McRoberts but I can't choose Hansbrough...now why would that be? They're both sophomores...both came into the league the same year...why cant I have Hansbrough?

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 5:33 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2007 5:29:13 PM

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"except for McCants and May and Felton and Jawad and Marvin and maybe even Noel"

WRONG, again....Manuel did average more points than Noel in 2005 (and I knew you were setting the trap when you asked for more players, but I figured presenting facts may be more of an argument than opinions, but alas, I expected too much)

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"I still think there are plenty of similarities in Duke this year and UNC last year...for example: - Lost their best players / scorers / leaders - Started the next year with a bunch of AAs - Anytime either school loses more than 5 games, its a down year"

UNC lost theri top 7 scorers, Duke lost their top 3, hmm? We can get into the statistcal representation of the actual amount of scoring lost, but you'd lose that one as I previously mentioned that UNC lost around 90% of their scoring, Duke maybe 70%? Duke started the next year with AA's. Duke RETURNED Mcroberts, Paulus, and Demarcus Nelson. UNC was BRINGING in Hansblow, green, ginyard, and frasor. Big difference at that point in time between freshman AA's than proven soph. AA's, don't you agree ?

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"nteresting...you get McRoberts but I can't choose Hansbrough"

Good lord, Hansblow came in in 2005-2006, the year after they won in 2005, a true frosh, He wasn't even a proven commodity being that he never stepped foot on the floor before then. What I'm suggesting is that 06-07 I'll take McRoberts, Nelson, and Paulus, and you take 05-06 Noel, Terry, and Sanders. You see UNC's attrition was at the end of 04-05 and Duke's losing Redick, SheWill, Dockery was in 05-06, different years means Hansblow (and frasor, ginyard, and green) hadn't even enrolled. Which brings up an even more interesting underlying isse. Felton, May, Mccants-Dockery, SheWill, and Redick were all the same year yet all the UNC guys were lottery picks while the Duke players stayed in college (and in turn, Dockery never was a lottery pick, was he even drafted?) but that is a completely different argument, I'm getting my UNC tatoo as we speak


[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 5:53 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2007 5:35:36 PM

you still act like UNC had a bunch of walkons after their title year...its UNC...they get basically nothing but All Americans

oh and good job making your point about Manuel averaging more points than Noel...that sure is an important point

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"Which brings up an even more interesting underlying isse. Felton, May, Mccants-Dockery, SheWill, and Redick were all the same year yet all the UNC guys were lottery picks while the Duke players stayed in college "

Felton is doing pretty well in the NBA...May has shown signs if his fat ass isnt hurt...McCants aint shit...Shelden is doing alright for the Hawks, about as good as Marvin...Redick is doing better with playing time...Noel, Manual and Jawad arent in the NBA

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 5:50 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2007 5:46:22 PM

Excellent, you sidestepped my entire post (and pretty much all of my points, especially with jaded opinions based off your hatred of two teams, certainly not based on any factual relevance) until the afrementioned "altogether different argument."
And do you understand the difference between RETURNING players and players being BROUGHT in as true frosh. Now, hindsight is 20/20, but back then I'd much rather have McRoberts, Paulus, and Nelson RETURNING for Duke in 06-07 (the year after their personell losses) rather than have Hansblow, Green, Ginyard, Frasor for UNC in 05-06 as TRUE FROSH (the year after their personell losses)

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"oh and good job making your point about Manuel averaging more points than Noel...that sure is an important point"

Don't be a sore because you post mistruths

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 6:05 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2007 5:55:29 PM

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"...well you're clueless like silverstone "

I have nothing to contribute right now, but I thought it was hilarious to see this in Sports Talk.

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 6:51 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2007 6:50:31 PM

NCSUMEB doesn't make the best argument but, speaking in terms of the regular season, the 05-06 Heels were much more successful than this year's Duke team. Duke finished 7th in the conference with a 8-8 record, 22-9 overall. That UNC team was 2nd in the ACC with a 12-4 conference record, including a win at Cameron, and 21-6 overall. We'll have to see how the tournaments pan out for Duke this season.

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 7:17 PM. Reason : typoooo]

3/6/2007 6:57:22 PM

well now i guess I've seen it all, a tarhole even disagreeing with me? Well the crux of the argument is that UNC lost 91% of their scoring production (along with leadership) and Duke lost their big three, probably constituting at most, 70% of their production. After UNC's attrition, they had incoming AA's, nothing proven, and still had a better conference record in 06 than Duke had in 07, who returned 3 McD AA's from their attrition, and finished 7th in the conference with MORE returning talent in the year after they lost thier good players (which was still less in terms of production than UNC)....

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 7:07 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2007 7:06:47 PM

I obviously wasn't disagreeing.

3/6/2007 7:31:35 PM

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"Noel, Manual and Jawad arent in the NBA"

noel plays for the bucks

3/6/2007 8:40:47 PM

^1.8 ppg. i'm sure he won't be there long

3/6/2007 8:49:20 PM

irrelevant to the discussion

3/6/2007 9:16:44 PM

I hate Duke and UNC so much. It's really tough for me to pick a side on this one.

3/6/2007 9:53:17 PM

3/6/2007 10:03:37 PM

hansbrough talking on sportscenter in about a minute

hansbrough said it wasn't intentional...end of thread

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 11:25 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2007 11:21:29 PM

oh yeah i forgot about noel...funny too because he was on the same team as hodge for a few weeks

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"Don't be a sore because you post mistruths"

doesnt sound like i was claiming anything as the truth here:

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"maybe even Noel"

i'm still not going to hate duke any more when your reasoning involves hyping up the tarheels

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 11:30 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2007 11:29:50 PM

HANSBROUGH IS A MIND READER.

3/6/2007 11:30:55 PM

the best part was "so is this the hardest you've ever been hit?"

"uhhh...hardest ever hit...on or off the court?"

then a harde har har laugh...

i guess psycho t has been in a fight or two before

3/7/2007 1:15:09 AM

I'm surprised nobody made a YTMND or just a plain YouTube vid of Tyler getting hit to the tune of "Move Bitch, get out the way"

3/7/2007 2:15:03 AM

probably b/c thats dumb as hell

3/7/2007 7:53:36 AM

i'm pretty sure theCoz did

3/7/2007 8:03:09 AM