flip flopper

4/13/2007 3:24:44 AM

it is offensive and racist

whereas the normal guy on the street can get away with it, the popular media figure who relies on advertising revenue can not.

the average guy running his racist mouth on a construction site or college campus has a relatively very small sphere of influence. he doesnt have much to lose, and he doesnt have enough critics to make a difference

popular entertainers. OTOH, have a huge sphere of influence. they have a lot of responsibility because they have a lot to lose. and can cause many periphial people to lose. people who also have a lot of power themselves. but even still, you cant treat all entertainers equally.

rappers, for instance, can get away with sying the shit they say because of where the money goes. who, exactly, is going to boycott Snoop Dogg's products, if he is deemed offensive by popular opinion? no one that matters to Snoop Dog's producers, thats who.

but Imus' program had mainstream audience, on mainstream media channels, with mainstream corporate sponsors. these corporate sponsors are not going to idly stand by while this peckerwood runs his mouth on air, pisses a huge amount of people off, and hurts their bottom line.

what is it that all of you free-market-loving Milton Friedman groupies can't understand about this? why is it that a liberal democrat like me has to remind you that corporations are free to choose who the do and who they don't associate their companies with?








[Edited on April 13, 2007 at 3:46 AM. Reason : ]

4/13/2007 3:40:55 AM

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"Go up to any black person and see how they like it"

i said that because its offensive, not racist

Quote :

"well they made a big mistake in scapegoating don imus on something that isnt racist"

posted this in chit chat at like 6:48

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"i dont even get how "nappy headed hos" is racist to be perfectly honest"

i posted that on april 10th


sorry for flip flopping


if i said that to a white woman it would be offensive...but i say it to a black person and all the sudden its "racist"?
[Edited on April 13, 2007 at 3:50 AM. Reason : its prolly people that deem "nappy headed hos" as racist that keeps racism alive]

4/13/2007 3:46:29 AM

It's not innately racist, and it's not as bad as nigger, but that doesn't mean it wasn't racist in this case (whether it was or not in the full context, I don't know, but I can see how someone would construe it as racist).

4/13/2007 3:50:54 AM

^see i kinda agree with that, BUT...i mean where does it stop? its not "innately" racist...well what are we gonna do everytime a group of black people find something "innately" racist- what i hate the most about this is its bringing up good dialogue, but over something so weak on the racism scale("nappy headed hos") that i think its going to hurt their cause

u can already see it in the past few days...cnn has been doing tons of stuff on "how rap is bad", etc type stuff...fox news is doing all this- this isnt a good example of a case to drag out like they have because in my opinion, u want to rally around a point that all people will agree on...not something that most(at least in my opinion) white people dont even consider racist

its deplorable, and reprehensible, and honestly i could care less if he got fired or not...but racist it is not

but i mean this is all imo so idk...gonna go to bed now maybe- night

4/13/2007 4:00:44 AM

so... what aspect of the word "racist" do you not understand?

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" nappy (adj.) "downy," 1499, from nap (n.). Meaning "fuzzy, kinky," used in colloquial or derogatory ref. to the hair of black people, is from 1950. http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=nappy "

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" 1. nappy 279 up, 109 down one of African desent who has tightly coiled unkept hair; one with locks of hair that is tightly curled that is unwashed and uncombed 2. nappy 147 up, 90 down Tightly coiled / curled unaltered hair. Coiled hair in its natural state as found on people of African descent who do not chemically alter their hair texture. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nappy "

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" There has been a boom in marketing to target hair products at African descended people, such as Out of Africa shampoo. Slogans that promote a pan-African appreciation of Afro textured hair include "Happy to be nappy," "Don't worry, be nappy" as well as "Love, peace and nappiness" (although nappy can refer to any race with such texture). When African-descended people wear natural hair this is sometimes referred to as going 'napptural'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_hair "

4/13/2007 4:11:22 AM

wow...i guess i'm so unracist, that i dont even know all the racist terms that exist- doesnt sound like a bad thing though...hmmmmm...MAYBE AL SHARPTON SHOULD TRY NOT LOOKING AT EVERYTHING AS BEING RACIST AND WE WOULDNT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT



ok well i guess i conceed...i seriously didnt think "nappy headed hos" is racist...your weblinks have now made me realize that the words are racist...

[Edited on April 13, 2007 at 4:17 AM. Reason : i dont think they are racist still though]

[Edited on April 13, 2007 at 4:18 AM. Reason : lets just ban the word "nappy" and "hoes"...i think headed is non racist]

4/13/2007 4:15:35 AM

nm. edited after your edit.



[Edited on April 13, 2007 at 4:20 AM. Reason : ]

4/13/2007 4:18:52 AM

I just think it's ironic how if they just accepted his apology and let it go we'd be done with the offensive comment but because they haven't "nappy headed ho" has worked it's way into the everyday vernacular of a lot of people.

4/13/2007 8:27:17 AM

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"corporations are free to choose who they do and who they don't associate their companies with?"

Spoken like a true Free Marketeer!

Companies are free to spend their advertising dollars as they wish.

The thing I'm worried about is that political groups will use this incident to reign in free speech as in reinstalling the so-called "Fairness Doctrine" or something like it.

Hopefully it won't take a Libertarian to remind Democrats that companies can put whoever they want on the air, just as they can take them off. Let the market decide who stays and who goes.

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" you see, the airwaves are owned by the government. Well, that's not the way the politicians put it. They say the airwaves are a "public good" — meaning they're owned by all of us. (I intended to sell my share of the airwaves last week, but I couldn't find a buyer.) Since the airwaves are owned by all of us, we all — you and I and everyone else — delegated to the FCC the power to regulate what is broadcast on those airwaves. Backdoor Tyranny Actually, of course, you and I don't own the airwaves. The government does. And here we see what's wrong with letting government own anything. Such ownership gives government the power to control your life. . . . • Because it owns the airwaves, the government can abridge free speech on radio and TV, preventing you from hearing or seeing what you want. • Because it owns the Post Office — the only agency legally permitted to deliver first-class mail — the government can censor magazines and newspapers that are distributed by mail (as it has done on many occasions), preventing you from receiving what you want. • Because it owns the roads, the government can impose roadblocks and decide who's allowed to drive a car, preventing you from having the freedom of the roads. The answer isn't to try to place rules on the regulators, or to elect people you think will appoint better regulators. The answer is to end government ownership and control of these areas. In other words . . . Free the airwaves! Free the mails! Free the roads! Government vs. Freedom We regulate our own TV-watching with a remote control. We've seen that Fedex and UPS provide much better delivery service than the U.S. Postal Service. And it isn't hard to imagine how private competition would lead to less expensive roads, fewer traffic accidents or traffic jams, and fewer construction tie-ups. The inefficiency, waste, corruption, and inconvenience we take for granted with the government would put any private company out of business. Government regulation of anything is a disaster. But it's particularly disastrous to let the government decide what we're allowed to see and hear on television and radio, because government control can keep us from learning the truth. Government Doesn't Know Best What has 70 years of government regulation of radio and television done for us? They told us there were only a few frequencies that could carry radio broadcasts, and so we needed a government agency to carefully assign those frequencies to companies that would broadcast in the public interest (meaning the companies that had the most political influence). So for many years, there were a limited number of AM radio stations available in any city. But then, lo and behold, it was suddenly discovered that stations could also broadcast on the FM radio band, and so the FCC had dozens more stations to give to favored companies in each city. But government control continued to be necessary because of the limited number of frequencies. But then, someone discovered low-power stations. And now we have satellite stations broadcasting on XM radio. In other words, there never has been a limited number of radio frequencies; it was an artificial restriction created by the FCC. The same was true with television. At first, only 12 stations could broadcast in any city, using the VHF (Very High Frequency) band. The 12 frequencies were prized plums for those with the political influence to obtain them. Then one day the FCC in its wisdom decided that there also was a UHF (Ultra High Frequency) band — and suddenly there were 86 more frequencies available. Who'd a thought? Cable television stations developed as a way of circumventing the FCC's stranglehold on the TV frequencies. Compare the slow development of radio and television with the breathtaking progress that private competition has brought to computers, telephones, fax machines, VCRs, CD players, TV sets, automobiles, and the Internet. Wouldn't it be nice if radio and television could develop in the same efficient, inexpensive, rapid way. Freedom Now There's absolutely no reason to have a Federal Communications Commission. We don't need the FCC to apportion limited broadcast frequencies, because private companies will always find a way to accommodate whatever the market wants and needs. We don't need the FCC to protect one company from infringing on another's frequency, because we already have police and courts who are supposed to protect property rights. And we certainly don't need the FCC to protect us from people like Janet Jackson and Howard Stern, because private initiative has given us the remote control — the all-purpose self-censoring device that can keep out of our homes anything we find offensive. I doubt that a single child's life was destroyed by the 1-second view of Janet Jackson's breast. But I'm sure that thousands of careers, tons of good entertainment, and billions of dollars have been sacrificed to the Great God of Government Regulation. It's time to free the airwaves. It's time to junk the FCC. --- Harry Browne, 2004 "

[Edited on April 13, 2007 at 11:12 AM. Reason : .]

4/13/2007 10:45:07 AM

damn. the Rutgers team accepts the apology after they find out he's been fired. Now I'm sure he's like "fuck those ugly bitches."

I don't see where "nappy headed hoes" is a racist saying.

Atleast now that he's fired, we won't see anymore of Al Sharpton for a while.

4/13/2007 2:02:56 PM

^^ that article sucks. government ownership of anything is disastrous? please.

4/13/2007 2:54:11 PM

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"Now I'm sure he's like "fuck those ugly bitches.""

Actually it probably would have been more along the lines of "fuck those ashy-skinned sluts" or "fuck those sickle-cell-anemia-having tricks"

4/13/2007 3:03:49 PM

fyi...he went and met with the rutgers team for 2 and a half hours AFTER HE HAD ALREADY BEEN FIRED

aka, he wasnt trying to save his job by doing this...i'll give him credit for that

4/13/2007 3:05:20 PM

They would've probably accepted the apology when they appeared on his show if he hadn't been fired.

4/13/2007 3:06:56 PM

If you don't like what someone has to say, then don't listen/watch.

If the sponsors want to pull their funding from them, they should do it on their own, according to their own ethical standards. Its your 1st amendment right to be able to say these things, no matter how tasteless and ridiculous they are.

Also, I don't see how Sharpton can involve himself in these things anymore. The guy is a criminal and a HUGE racist himself, but the media just chooses to look away. Ridiculous.

4/13/2007 4:12:41 PM

^because if they were to call him out on it, it would be racist.

Hypocrisy

4/13/2007 5:05:37 PM

^^no one would be able to successfully mount a racist campaign against a influential black person, such as Sharpton. I mean hell he is offering free tuition to a girl who filed false police reports, and still isn't being called out for that.

I just don't think it could happen with the way current society is shaped, and how most people are willing to bend over backwards for "slavery reparations"

4/13/2007 8:35:51 PM

goddamn. you people, i swear.

4/13/2007 8:36:46 PM

^^ya slavery wasn't wrong at all

4/13/2007 9:04:32 PM

Who said anything about slavery being right.

We should learn from history, but not dwell on the past.

4/13/2007 10:04:37 PM

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"White folks were in caves while we were building empires. . . . We taught philosophy, astrology, and mathematics before Socrates and those Greek homos."

Al Sharpton

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Al_Sharpton

4/14/2007 1:29:17 AM

what the hell, dude? did Al Sharpton ass rape your father or something?

it's like youre on a mission to hound him everywhere he goes.

you oughtta start stalking him at his press conferences




[Edited on April 14, 2007 at 2:01 AM. Reason : ]

4/14/2007 2:00:30 AM

^you're right, lets give him a free pass for being a hypocritical cancer on society

[Edited on April 14, 2007 at 2:04 AM. Reason : free pass*]

4/14/2007 2:02:08 AM

Al Sharpton stars in "Speech Cops"

"Bad Words, Bad Words...Whatcha Gonna Do
Whatcha Gonna Do When Al Comes for You?"

4/14/2007 2:35:28 AM

Oh, Rev ain't right, his church ain't right
Deacon was a pimp, tell by his ice

4/14/2007 2:37:38 AM

There's still no such thing as bad publicity. I bet it wont be long before Imus nails an even bigger contract with a different media company.

4/14/2007 3:04:38 AM

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_104002437.html

If someone goes through with this, well the benefits are obvious, but I shudder to think that if he were to be slaughtered he may receive some martyr status in the black community.

[Edited on April 14, 2007 at 8:07 AM. Reason : e]

4/14/2007 8:02:38 AM

i agree wholeheartedly with the article in friday's Technician about racist humor.

- racist humor is funny. i wasn't offended when i was jokingly called a "milky bitch"
- none of the women on the rutgers team had probably EVER listened to Imus before
- they would not have been upset about it had someone not told them they should be
- this type of hypocrisy is what will keep racism alive

the things black rappers say are 100x more insulting to black women and women in general. why pick on Imus? why does anyone care if the rutgers team/sharpton/whoever "forgives" Imus or not? they need to get over themselves. he's apologized, and that is enough. Sharpton and Jackson are preventing the United States from becoming an equal society and anyone who thinks differently is ignorant. what they practice is completely contrary to what MLK taught.

4/14/2007 12:29:08 PM

Do you really think that, after hearing that they had been called "nappy headed hos", the girls on the team were not offended? You think they had to be told to be offended?

Furthermore, the things SOME rappers say, both black and white, are indeed way more insulting to women than what Imus said. However, how many rappers are talking about specific people? There's a big difference.

Finally, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are cunts of the highest caliber. And this fact does not, in any way, have anything to do with what Imus said.

4/14/2007 12:46:38 PM

sure, after hearing they were called "nappy headed hoes" out of context, they would be offended... HOWEVER, as indicated by their own statements regarding the incident with 'whatever', i seriously doubt they felt the need to call a press conference or assembly and demand an apology where maybe, just maybe they might forgive him for his comedy, without the persistence of sharpton.

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"Essence Carson, a junior and the team captain whom Mulcahy introduced as “a straight-A student, who could walk out of here and play ‘Moonlight Sonata’ on the piano without looking at the notes,” said that it was a close call about whether to ignore Imus or to respond publicly. “At first we thought to let it slide, but when we read the transcript, we decided it was unacceptable,” she said. "

who gave them the transcript to read?? and for what purpose??

4/14/2007 1:13:44 PM

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"chaoticbliss: - they would not have been upset about it had someone not told them they should be"

What exactly are you trying to say about the Rutgers womens basketball team? Are they also fucking stupid now? So stupid that they can't determine what offends them and what doesn't? They were called out specifically for absolutely no reason. It's not like one of them humped center court during a celebration. I'm gonna go out on a very short limb and say that most everybody would be offended if they were in that position--no need for anybody tell them to be offended.

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"chaoticbliss: who gave them the transcript to read?? and for what purpose??"

Do you think they may have acquired the transcript on their own? Or maybe they asked someone to get it for them?

They're not children, you stupid fuck.

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"chaoticbliss: the things black rappers say are 100x more insulting to black women and women in general. why pick on Imus?"

The media have been picking on rappers for a long ass time now--have you missed that? Folks keep buying their records though. Imus, on the other hand, lost advertisers and guests...which means no show for Imus.

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"chaoticbliss: why does anyone care if the rutgers team/sharpton/whoever "forgives" Imus or not? they need to get over themselves. he's apologized, and that is enough. Sharpton and Jackson are preventing the United States from becoming an equal society and anyone who thinks differently is ignorant."

Apparently, people care...otherwise the media wouldn't be covering them. They don't need to get over themselves when folks are waiting to hear their response and what they have to say. OH, IF ONLY SOMEBODY CARED WHAT chaoticbliss HAD TO SAY!

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"chaoticbliss: what they practice is completely contrary to what MLK taught."

What did he teach? Honestly, I want to know what the fuck you think that man was all about; this is your chance to manipulate your perception of MLK, Jr. to dictate how you want people to act today. I'm sick and tired of hearing assholes who woulda spat in Dr. King's face years ago complaining today, "Why can't they be like MLK?!?!"

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"chaoticbliss: - racist humor is funny. i wasn't offended when i was jokingly called a "milky bitch""

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"chaoticbliss: just maybe they might forgive him for his comedy"

Quit calling it comedy and humor, you stupid bitch.

[Edited on April 14, 2007 at 1:44 PM. Reason : stupid fuck is enough.]

4/14/2007 1:34:42 PM

who is it that routinely pisses in your cornflakes?

4/14/2007 1:41:30 PM

^So no response?

4/14/2007 2:02:43 PM

^ nothing you said warrants a response. you are just blindly commenting, and not making a single valid point backed up with any information.

try lucky charms sometime.

4/14/2007 2:08:09 PM

^So that's why you're not responding! Or maybe it's because I crushed every bit of bullshit you had to say?

4/14/2007 2:17:59 PM

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"Chris Rock is not intending to insult or demean anyone, he's trying to make a positive point, or a joke."

LOL! Are you fucking serious?

One of Chris Rock's most famous comedic rants was to make fun of a certain class of black Americans -- some would argue, the poor and uneducated underclass -- by using a flagrant racial slur.

And white people, too. Here's a direct quote:

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" But not all people on welfare are black. Their are white people on welfare too. But we cant give a fuck about them! Broke-ass mothafuckas, Livin in trailer homes, Eating mayonaise sandwiches, fuckin' their sista's, listening to John Melloncamp records!"

Look at that positive point about race!

You need to get WAY the fuck down from your high horse, buddy. The oxygen is thin up there in your ivory tower.

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" This is where you're completely wrong, and I don't understand why. No one is making a claim of ALL white Americans."

Sure they are. The implication that "racism isn't dead in America" is inherently attributive to all white people. Because there's no specificity here -- it's 'America.' America is majority white.

If the spokespeople got on the air and said "racism isn't dead among white shock jocks in America," I might not take it so broadly. But to say "America" in general -- it rather implies that any random joe schmoe white guy on the street harbors some deep-seated hatred of blacks. We don't know who -- it could be evenly distributed, it could be everyone -- but it's pervasive, that's for sure!

It's called a "generalization." It inherently applies to the general case, would you not agree?

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"This isn't Imus' first instance of making racial jokes."

So? Being racist isn't a quantitative thing. It's not like -- if you make five racist jokes, you're a racist. It's whether he truly believes that blacks (or whomever) are inferior.

But to take a racist joke and use it as an _ironic_ device in humor, is not racist. It's very common. See: Chris Rock, for example.

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"I disagree though that black entertainers would be off the air under the same standards, mostly because their intent is different than Imus'."

Don't you agree that if Imus can be kicked off for calling those girls names, then Chris Rock's movie should be boycotted because he implies that America is full of white people "fuckin' their sistas?"

[Edited on April 14, 2007 at 2:20 PM. Reason : foo]

4/14/2007 2:18:33 PM

Okay, Lemme get it straight, for all you Republican/Imus apologists and other assorted critics of black civil rights leaders....

Jesse Jackson = hypocritical race baiter

Al Sharpton = hypocritical race baiting unindicted criminal

but ... I would assume that good black folks who mind their manners around white people are okay... right?

like, say, Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice

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" "They're 18- and 19-year-old women," Rice said. "And what were they doing except showing that they're really fine athletes, playing under extraordinary pressure in which for them was a dream season. "And it gets ruined by this disgusting -- and I'll use the word 'disgusting' -- comment which doesn't belong in any polite company and certainly doesn't belong on any radio station that I would listen to," Rice told talk show host Michael Medved. "I just thought that it was an attack on women's sports, first of all, and secondly an attack on very accomplished young black women in a way that was really offensive," she said, according to a transcript of the interview released by the State Department. Rice declined to offer an opinion on Imus's firing but said she was "very glad that there was, in fact, a consequence" for the remarks. -- http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/04/14/rice-imus.ap/index.html "

4/14/2007 2:37:47 PM

THATs bullshit



people got some thin skin these days

4/14/2007 2:45:39 PM

in case any of you havent seen it:
http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html/

4/14/2007 2:49:29 PM

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"people got some thin skin these days"

yeah.

them black gals dont like being called "Nigger-Whores" by old white guys in cowboy hats.

Imagine that.

4/14/2007 2:53:49 PM

^^

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" "We all know where the real battleground is," wrote Kansas City Star columnist Jason Whitlock. "We know that the gangsta rappers and their followers in the athletic world have far bigger platforms to negatively define us than some old white man with a bad radio show." ... The Rev. Al Sharpton, among the loudest critics calling for Imus' termination, indicated that entertainment is the next battleground. "We will not stop until we make it clear that no one should denigrate women," he said after Imus' firing. "We must deal with the fact that ho and the b-word are words that are wrong from anybody's lips. "It would be wrong if we stopped here and acted like Imus was the only problem. There are others that need to get this same message." http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/311646_imus14.html "

[Edited on April 14, 2007 at 3:24 PM. Reason : ]

4/14/2007 2:55:12 PM

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" what is it that all of you free-market-loving Milton Friedman groupies can't understand about this? why is it that a liberal democrat like me has to remind you that corporations are free to choose who the do and who they don't associate their companies with?"

I'll call this statement out as an obvious straw-man argument. Clearly the corporations have a legal _right_ to dissociate themselves. But the question is whether it's a good business decision, and a proper attitude to take towards their viewers.

I do think you almost made a good point that Don Imus has a disproportionate influence over public opinion. And, therefore, he had a special obligation not to "pick on" these women.

But you're wrong. This is college basketball. It is a widely-publicized sport, and therefore the players are "public figures." For some reason, all of a sudden, we believe that the Rutgers Women's Basketball team is some Little League baseball outfit. They're adults who, in pursuit of a sport they love, have stepped into the public eye. They're not playing basketball in front of Carmichael gymnasium.

Personally I take issue with the idea that Don Imus's comments "harms" this team. A good sports team exists *in spite of* opposition and competition. These women are expected to play in front of unfriendly crowds and win -- not because of "moral support," but because they're bad-ass and they can play basketball well no matter what *anyone* says.

For the media (and Condolezza Rice in particular) to portray Don Imus's commentary as somehow diminishing them -- it's the worst kind of public coddling.

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"There are others that need to get this same message."

So he says. As opposed to the previous twenty years of doing absolutely nothing about it ...

[Edited on April 14, 2007 at 4:41 PM. Reason : foo]

4/14/2007 4:37:48 PM

I wonder how many black children Imus has helped with his charities and on the Imus Ranch....yeah, he's a racist alright

fucking double standard.


[Edited on April 14, 2007 at 4:46 PM. Reason : a]

4/14/2007 4:44:25 PM

What's funny about all this is that Imus wasn't even that popular to begin with since he was only syndicated by 61 stations nationwide and if it weren't for the blogs, this thing would have probably have passed like a tree falling in the woods with nobody around.

4/14/2007 4:50:00 PM

yet people wanted him to be pulled off the air immediately, some people even wanted cbs to cancel his telethon...seriously wtf

4/14/2007 4:53:53 PM

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"Smoker4: But you're wrong. This is college basketball. It is a widely-publicized sport, and therefore the players are "public figures." For some reason, all of a sudden, we believe that the Rutgers Women's Basketball team is some Little League baseball outfit. They're adults who, in pursuit of a sport they love, have stepped into the public eye. They're not playing basketball in front of Carmichael gymnasium."

Actually, they are most definitely not public figures.

^People want a lot of things. I want that Nancy Grace character off the air. I can't stand that stupid Aqua Teen Hunger Force show--pull it, too. And don't get me started on the Mix 101.5 morning show crew...

And when business/advertisers start seeing things my way, I'll see some changes...

Until then, I'll want what I want. And you can "seriously wtf" at me all day long.

4/14/2007 7:27:08 PM

^seriously...WTF?

4/14/2007 7:33:34 PM

um, they are public figures. They play basketball on television.

and the difference between the telethon and the things you listed is the telethon, so far, has raised over 30 million dollars to charity.

4/14/2007 7:35:17 PM

^No, they are not public figures.

And I don't really care about this telethon. My point was that what people want isn't really worth a comment here. By commenting on what these people (who are mostly nameless and possibly nonexistent) want, you're just talking about bullshit. OMG, A HUNDRED PEOPLE WANT THE TELETHON CANCELLED?!?! THEY ARE SO STUPID--I BET THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY IT HAS RAISED--WHAT REACTIONARY IDIOTS! LET'S TALK ABOUT THESE PEOPLE TO DRAW ATTENTION AWAY FROM RACISM AND DON IMUS THE DOUCHEBAG...!

[Edited on April 14, 2007 at 8:10 PM. Reason : ]

4/14/2007 8:10:00 PM