I see it like a McDonald's coffee cup 10 years ago. Sure, it had no warning saying that the coffee is hot and you should be careful, but if you start chugging it or spill it all over yourself it's more likely than not your own fault if you get hurt. That being said, Food Lion needs to clarify their signs if they don't want people parking there overnight because they live in a college town and people are gonna do whatever they can to get a break.

Hur should get his money back and possibly some money for the time his car was missing because it is Food Lion's fault that people were parking there. I know I've had friends park in the area before (the other shopping center, not food lions) and have had no problems. I would be pissed, but I do remember telling people that parked there to be careful and I wasn't gonna pay for their towing fees if they got towned.

10/9/2007 4:52:05 PM

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"I see it like a McDonald's coffee cup 10 years ago. Sure, it had no warning saying that the coffee is hot and you should be careful, but if you start chugging it or spill it all over yourself it's more likely than not your own fault if you get hurt."

ITS FUCKING HOT COFFEE


ITS IDIOTS LIKE YOU THAT MAKE EVERYTHING MORE EXPENSIVE AND LADEN WITH WARNING LABELS>

10/9/2007 4:58:55 PM

Imma bout to beat your ass up if you don't watch the caps up in my LOUNGE

10/9/2007 5:00:46 PM

STFU n00b

10/9/2007 5:01:14 PM

YOU DONE DONE IT AGAIN

10/9/2007 5:03:08 PM

we are gonna come regulate that keyboard

10/9/2007 5:24:27 PM

If this happened all over Raleigh, I'd be more accepting of the practice.

But the fact that it directly targets young folks is what makes it fucked up.

They claim that we young folks walk around like we're entitled to the world...well, maybe we need to boost that sense of entitlement and start fighting this shit. Demand they respect us.

10/9/2007 6:31:01 PM

Even if the towing company was in the wrong for towing the cars, you and your friends are still morons for thinking it was perfectly all right to park there.



And everyone that keeps bringing up the McDonald's coffee suit are falling victim to rhetoric rather than anything close to a real understanding of that particular lawsuit.

10/9/2007 7:02:25 PM

^they were morons because they were doing something that has been PERFECTLY ok for at LEAST 5 years???

10/9/2007 7:22:03 PM

They were morons because common sense says a business's private parking lot isn't meant to be used for public parking. You shouldn't need a sign to tell you that.

10/9/2007 7:39:16 PM

if they had parked on the perimeter would they have been towed?

10/9/2007 7:41:40 PM

that's not common sense. common sense says food lion is closed at night, and nobody would normally be using the parking lot, so what's the problem??

10/9/2007 7:42:07 PM

There are towing signs all over that parking lot.
You all have to pay.

Believe me, I have checked out that parking lot, as with everywhere I park.
There are a minimum of 4 signs at the front of the lot with the towing information, and that towing is enforced.
They are properly placed, marked, and sized.

after reading more:
Most lots say no overnight parking, though I don't know about food lion.
Parking at the outer perimeter, at the back of the lot is completely safe.
They used to allow parking, till it was abused. Just like everything, if you abuse it, it will be taken away. That is the people's fault who parked there.
A company can change its practices at any time, and they are not responsible if you break the new, and heavily posted rules.

[Edited on October 9, 2007 at 8:01 PM. Reason : .]

10/9/2007 7:58:51 PM

i sleep at night, does that mean anyone should be welcome to park in my driveway during that time? i understand the argument of a private business open to the public should provide parking for its customers, but why should that extend to after hours?

i'm not understanding where this sense of entitlement is coming from. maybe when some of you buy some property of your own you'll understand.

i hate ace towing as much as anyone else and i hate that it even sounds like i'm defending them, but it's downright retarded to expect that you and your friends should be provided with free parking ON SOMEONE ELSES PROPERTY.

i will say that i don't think it's some night manager at food lion's decision to have cars towed, unless he was under orders from the owners (maybe he was). truth be known, it's probably another company that owns/maintains the property but i don't know that to be a fact.

10/9/2007 8:11:57 PM

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"Believe me, I have checked out that parking lot, as with everywhere I park. There are a minimum of 4 signs at the front of the lot with the towing information, and that towing is enforced. They are properly placed, marked, and sized."

you are an absolute moron. have you read nothing else in this thread. Food Lion broke the law; illegally towed cars; and should have to pay for everyone's towing fee by violating predatory towing laws.

Not only did they not post the number and tow company name- Against the law in Raleigh

They also did not display proper towing regulations for that lot- Also against the law

If i go to campus and park in a SV parking space that state parking enforcement 7am-12pm they can not ticket me for parking at 2 am by saying that I do not have a NCSU parking permit or am a non-NCSU student/faculty member. The ticket maids have to follow the regulations listed on the sign.

Quote :

"i sleep at night, does that mean anyone should be welcome to park in my driveway during that time? i"

once again the rules for a private residence even an apartment complex absolutely do not apply to a commercial business. Last time I checked a private residence was not required to have exit signs either.

[Edited on October 9, 2007 at 9:59 PM. Reason : l]

10/9/2007 9:54:11 PM

SO, has WRAL been contacted !!??!?!?

10/9/2007 9:56:54 PM

WRAL doesnt care about stupid drunkass frats

[Edited on October 9, 2007 at 10:01 PM. Reason : only care if someone gets shot at a frat party]

10/9/2007 10:00:42 PM

FOR THE WIN................









Unless the tow company number is in super fine font that did not show up in my 4.1 MegaPixel camera and the sign has UV magical paint that at night changes Wolfline Rider to "NO PARKING AFter HOURS" then food lion broke the law, was in the wrong, and should have to reimburse every penny for not following proper towing laws.

10/9/2007 10:02:58 PM

Apparently WRAL HAS BEEN CONTACTED!!

What did they tell you HUR?

10/9/2007 10:03:30 PM

so when is your court date?

10/9/2007 10:04:42 PM

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"However, the maximum fees in this section shall not apply to the non-consensual towing of vehicles weighing in excess of two (2) tons."

i found this interesting. fyi, that's a large majority of suv's/trucks.

10/9/2007 10:40:58 PM

I would bet the vast majority of wolfline park & ride people patronize that food lion since its right there where they get on/off the bus.

10/9/2007 11:07:32 PM

5^ PHOTOSHOPPED!!!

10/10/2007 9:46:21 AM

Quote :

"i hate ace towing as much as anyone else and i hate that it even sounds like i'm defending them, but it's downright retarded to expect that you and your friends should be provided with free parking ON SOMEONE ELSES PROPERTY."

QFT. It is not your parking lot.

10/10/2007 12:13:15 PM

In their defense, when I read the sign it seems to me that the intent is 'do not inhibit customer parking during business hours'. If it was 2am and I saw that sign, I wouldn't hesitate to park there.

I mean, if they don't want you to park there afterr business hours... why not... i dunno... tell you or post a damn sign to that effect?

10/10/2007 2:27:24 PM

^ Be careful. People don't take too kindly to logic around here.

10/10/2007 2:36:03 PM

no shit ^.

Well WRAL has contacted me today. The lady needed help finding a source for the Raleigh Ordinance codes and thanks to TWW I had a source. yay!

10/10/2007 2:46:47 PM

I hope this airs on WRAL.

10/10/2007 2:49:10 PM

oh shit !!!
MUSTARS GONNA BE ON TV

10/10/2007 3:28:40 PM

places need more visitor parking anyways at the apt complexes around here

university oaks doesnt even have visitor parking
but they dont tow either from what i have experienced

still, more visitor parking would be great

10/10/2007 3:38:07 PM

MoonStar is gonna take this shit public. FOODLION/ACE TOWING are going down! WRAL CrimeStoppers!!!!!

10/10/2007 4:09:44 PM

can you please not mention TKE if you make it on the news?

thanks

10/11/2007 9:49:50 AM

is anyone willing to bet the only thing to come from this is signs that are more strict?

10/11/2007 9:52:04 AM

at least everyone will be 100% sure what the parking deal at FoodLion is. Therefore no one will have a false sense of security that their car is fine since they are not "Wolfline Riders" only to come back to find their car is towed.

10/11/2007 10:47:02 AM

frankly, i'd rather not have to search for a space when i go to the grocery store because of damn college kids parking their cars in the lot to ride the bus.

10/11/2007 10:49:36 AM

This thread is just a bunch of whining. If you are really concerned, go do something about it. Contact Student Legal Services and they are FREE. They could give you advice about the situation. I see you contacted WRAL. Last time I checked WRAL was media not legal advice. I don't think your story will cause too much of an uproar in the community.

10/11/2007 10:50:10 AM

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"frankly, i'd rather not have to search for a space when i go to the grocery store because of damn college kids parking their cars in the lot to ride the bus."

Agreed completly. Remember though the issue was over towing that took place when Food Lion was closed in which cars were towed contrary to the regulations listed on the warning sign.

^ thanks i am glad you wasted 40 electrons to make such an outstanding contribution to this thread

10/11/2007 10:52:44 AM

you people should live in a real city where they dont fuck around with parking

you kids have it easy in raleigh, parking is good there

10/11/2007 10:59:02 AM

i'm pretty sure you and your friends who got towed are the only people who couldn't figure out that those signs applied to all noncustomers, and i may have missed it, but i was just wondering. you said they started leaving at 2am, so what time did the party start?

10/11/2007 11:16:17 AM

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"i'm pretty sure you and your friends who got towed are the only people who couldn't figure out that those signs applied to all noncustomers"

hmmm....

when i park on campus and see a park sign that says "SV" for Service Vehicle parking "7am 12pm" i assume that i can park there from 12-7am even if i do not have any other type of parking pass.

Do not be a fucking moron. If they did not want non-customers to park then the sign should say "non-customers."

10/11/2007 11:58:42 AM

or you could take from the sign that since it didn't give hours it applies 24 hours a day, see it works both ways

you didn't answer my question though, what time did your party start?

10/11/2007 12:22:28 PM

11;

Quote :

"it applies 24 hours a day, see it works both ways"

since the wolfline at the greek way stop next to foodlion does not run 24 hours or even weekends and the fact that no one was a wolfline rider then the sign does not apply.

If anything it offers reassurance for people wanting to park since it specifically makes a distinction for wolfline riders. Without the sign people would not know otherwise.

[Edited on October 11, 2007 at 12:30 PM. Reason : l]

10/11/2007 12:28:26 PM

so the foodlion was still open when your guests started parking there?

10/11/2007 12:29:45 PM

debatable, b.c the people that would have showed up latest would have been the ones to hit up foodlion after our parking lot and greek way were full.

10/11/2007 12:31:15 PM

here's a simple question

did the signs meet the legal requirements to list the towing company, 24 hour number, etc

10/11/2007 12:32:22 PM

NO

btw do any of you all have a source of the ordinance requiring the name and number of the towing company. WRAL action 5 needs some help with the investigation.

Quote :

"Last time I checked WRAL was media not legal advice."

even if the victims do not get a dime of the money back; WRAL through bad publicity is capable of giving Food Lion such bad press the manager will regret being a cocksucker from the negative business impact. Hopefully he will get demoted back to bag boy.

[Edited on October 11, 2007 at 1:00 PM. Reason : l]

10/11/2007 12:58:38 PM

Quote :

"btw do any of you all have a source of the ordinance requiring the name and number of the towing company. WRAL action 5 needs some help with the investigation. "

haha..."hey guys, could you do my legwork for me?"

10/11/2007 1:18:40 PM

HUR, I think you and your friends are clearly in the right here, hope you get some/ all of the money back.

10/11/2007 1:27:26 PM

^^ do not be an ass. I just thought maybe someone knew of a good sight or something

10/11/2007 1:36:19 PM

^the answer to your own question is on page 4 of your thread posted by Smath74

Quote :

"Quote : "Sec. 12-7015. IMPROPER TOWING. (a) It is a misdemeanor offense to tow a motor vehicle from a lot that is subject to the provisions of N.C.G.S 20-219.2 unless the lot and individual parking spaces are properly designated as mandated by that statute." Quote : "§ 20-219.2. Removal of unauthorized vehicles from private lots. (a) It shall be unlawful for any person other than the owner or lessee of a privately owned or leased parking space to park a motor or other vehicle in such private parking space without the express permission of the owner or lessee of such space; provided, that such private parking lot be clearly designated as such by a sign no smaller than 24 inches by 24 inches prominently displayed at the entrance thereto and the parking spaces within the lot be clearly marked by signs setting forth the name of each individual lessee or owner; a vehicle parked in a privately owned parking space in violation of this section may be removed from such space upon the written request of the parking space owner or lessee to a place of storage and the registered owner of such motor vehicle shall become liable for removal and storage charges. Any person who removes a vehicle pursuant to this section shall not be held liable for damages for the removal of the vehicle to the owner, lienholder or other person legally entitled to the possession of the vehicle removed; however, any person who intentionally or negligently damages a vehicle in the removal of such vehicle, or intentionally or negligently inflicts injury upon any person in the removal of such vehicle, may be held liable for damages. (b) Any person violating any of the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a Class 3 misdemeanor and upon conviction shall be only fined not more than ten dollars ($10.00) in the discretion of the court. (c) This section shall apply only to the Counties of Craven, Dare, Forsyth, Gaston, Guilford, New Hanover, Orange, Robeson, Wake, Wilson and to the Cities of Durham, Jacksonville, Charlotte and Fayetteville. (1969, cc. 173, 288; 1971, c. 986; 1973, c. 183; c. 981, s. 1; c. 1330, s. 36; 1975, c. 575; 1979, c. 380; 1979, 2nd Sess., c. 1119; 1981 (Reg. Sess., 1982), c. 1251, s. 3; 1989, c. 417, c. 644, s. 1; 1993, c. 539, s. 383; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 24, s. 14(c).)" "

10/11/2007 1:44:31 PM