Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
blaque ppl. lol 11/27/2007 3:31:59 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
whatever. some of the clowns on this message board are useless 11/27/2007 3:31:59 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
are you his mom or something? cause you sound like you're on some "that was MY baby. he couldve never done anything wrong, he was a good boy" 11/27/2007 3:32:44 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
I've long since come to the conclusion that anyone with some mention of the university in their username thinks anyone without some mention of the university in their username is worthless.
[Edited on November 27, 2007 at 3:37 PM. Reason : x] 11/27/2007 3:33:30 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
ngas gotta eat 11/27/2007 3:34:56 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
For the record, Sean Taylor's attorney, Redskins team officials, and local police have all made comments to the effect of this not being a random robbery. 11/27/2007 3:38:58 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
I think most people are on the same page about it probably not being a random robbery. I think it's most likely it was someone who was trying to end his career for some reason or another. I doubt the intruder was trying to murder him - but who knows, maybe the shooter knew exactly where the femoral artery is? 11/27/2007 3:41:48 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
According to Taylor's girlfriend, the intruder broke into the bedroom and fired 2 shots, one of which hit Taylor in the upper thigh. At the time Taylor was wielding a machete that he stored next to his bed for protection.
Read into it however you want. 11/27/2007 3:43:51 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Not trying to be funny, but have you ever seen a 'thug' type with good aim?
He probably was holding the gun sideways and just fired two random shots...the fact that he hit anything was a bonus. 11/27/2007 3:45:56 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
how do you know who came in his house and shot him now? 11/27/2007 3:47:06 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Non-thugs don't rob thugs. 11/27/2007 3:52:29 PM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
terpball you're playing a terrible devil's advocate 11/27/2007 3:55:58 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How are we running his name thru the mud?
We speculating about what happened on a college message board.
Unless you knew the motherfucker personally, I don't see why you care.
" |
then he types
Quote : | "Non-thugs don't rob thugs." |
if you're murdered I hope people only talk about you being gay11/27/2007 3:56:47 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
I'm trying to see your logic, I really am.
But its just not there. 11/27/2007 3:58:30 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
I wouldn't expect you to
[Edited on November 27, 2007 at 4:00 PM. Reason : you let people call you slave] 11/27/2007 3:59:12 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
You let people call you Ingmar 11/27/2007 4:01:28 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
that's my real name 11/27/2007 4:02:50 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
if this had happened to Adam Jones instead of Sean Taylor would anybody give a shit if people insinuated he was a thug? How about Chris Henry? 11/27/2007 4:05:34 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Jesus Christ... 11/27/2007 4:07:19 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
blaque ppl
lol 11/27/2007 4:27:03 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Wait, Slave... are you gay? 11/27/2007 4:36:19 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
this thread is out of control 11/27/2007 4:39:01 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
I just realized that
Quote : | "I'm trying to see your logic, I really am.
But its just not there.
" |
would make much more sense if he is gay
no, i really don't care whether he's gay or not11/27/2007 4:44:55 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
4.5 pages of this catfighting is due to people having a different idea of what "being caught up in thug shit" means
amazing 11/27/2007 5:44:40 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
i got lost in this thread
one side thinks it was due to thug shit
the other does not
the side who does not takes offense that the other thinks it is
is that right?
All I can say is that I'm not putting some guy on a pedestal without knowing all the facts, especially after feeling sorry for Benoit when I first heard about his death. I'd be a little skeptical anyways considering the guy's past, I don't understand how somebody can just totally ignore all that. 11/27/2007 6:03:00 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
interesting you bring up Benoit, i think thats a good example
everybody was like "omg how dare you even conider mentioning anything not 100% positive about benoit...have some respect, he just died"
then it comes out he murdered his wife and kids 11/27/2007 6:08:40 PM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
this makes me really sad
RIP 11/27/2007 6:55:01 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
I hate Miami, I really hate the Redskins, and I didnt like Taylor but still sucks ass, really sad 11/27/2007 7:26:15 PM |
Howard All American 1960 Posts user info edit post |
i haven't read this thread but was it his fault?
and how does a millionaire athlete die from a shot in the leg 11/27/2007 8:14:16 PM |
Kodiak All American 7067 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and how does a millionaire athlete die from a shot in the leg" |
Because millionaire athletes have femoral arteries just like the rest of us, Earl.11/27/2007 8:37:08 PM |
Howard All American 1960 Posts user info edit post |
this sucks
[Edited on November 27, 2007 at 9:09 PM. Reason : misinformed] 11/27/2007 8:47:54 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
he never said that. he was never conscious in the hospital. 11/27/2007 9:08:28 PM |
J_Hova All American 30984 Posts user info edit post |
last reports before the pronounced death early this morning showed he was responsive and grabbed a nurses hand on command
[Edited on November 27, 2007 at 9:39 PM. Reason : .] 11/27/2007 9:38:59 PM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
still sad 11/28/2007 8:52:40 AM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
anyone else see koren robinsons comments on it on sportscenter? he doesnt sound like hes doing much better, expect to see him back out of the league soon. 11/28/2007 10:14:14 AM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Lots of people up here in DC are sporting the Sean Taylor jersey. Lots of people are really down in the dumps over this. I guess lots of these Redskins fans feel really close to the team. (i know, irony b/c they've sucked lately) 11/28/2007 10:24:18 AM |
steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
oh definitely. its a sad situation, and you have to feel bad for the guy's family. sounds like he mightve really been trying to turn things around but maybe his past caught up with him. if anything, maybe some other kids will learn from this 11/28/2007 10:26:10 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
lets do some rough math
there are 32 teams in the NFL
each team can carry 53 players (we will ignore the practice squad)
32 * 53 = 1696
so lets say there are roughly 1700 players in the NFL
now according to the FBI, about 17,000 people were murdered in 2006
lets estimate 300,000,000 total people in the United States
if 1 in 1,700 NFL players gets murdered, thats about 0.059% of the league getting murdered
if 17,000 of 300,000,000 Americans get murdered, thats about 0.0057% of the country getting murdered
so what we've learned is that the murder rate in the NFL is approximately 10x higher than the national average although that stat is extremely misleading
and if you add Darent Williams I guess the NFL's murder rate is 20x higher than the rest of the country] 11/28/2007 10:34:37 AM |
ewalk All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
how many nfl players have been murdered in the past few years? practice squad included. 11/28/2007 10:37:04 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
i'm guessing about 1 a year?
darent williams the broncos safety was murdered last year
Fred Lane of the Panthers was murdered by his wife in what like 1999 or 2000? 11/28/2007 10:44:44 AM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.deuceofdavenport.com/
I have read what the Washington Post's Michael Wilbon and Len Shapiro have had to say about the tragic murder of Sean Taylor and I have to say, they are the lowest human beings known to mankind for their callous words about his death.
Michael Wilbon has already gone on record as twisting facts about Sean Taylor by saying:
I know how I feel about Taylor, and this latest news isn’t surprising in the least, not to me. Whether this incident is or isn’t random, Taylor grew up in a violent world, embraced it, claimed it, loved to run in it and refused to divorce himself from it. He ain’t the first and won’t be the last. We have no idea what happened, or if what we know now will be revised later. It’s sad, yes, but hardly surprising. But Len Shapiro for the Washington Post took the cake by comparing Sean Taylor to Pacman Jones and Tank Johnson:
At the moment, it is far too soon to draw any conclusions as to how or why this tragedy occurred, why another young black man is now dead from a gunshot wound in his own home, why another athlete, Michael Vick, Pacman Jones, Tank Johnson, and now Sean Taylor becomes headline news for all the wrong reasons... Still, could anyone honestly say they never saw this coming? You'd have to be blind not to consider Taylor's checkered past. I need to know how because he missed league meetings and conversations with his head coach is that a checkered past? I want to know how because Sean Taylor never was convicted of any crime, is Sean Taylor suddenly running with gangs and embracing a thug life? He once plead down to a no contest plea, that is not convicted or considered guilty, for supposedly chasing down people who stole his ATV with a gun. In other words, getting his property back. There is no mention of the prosecutor who was using this case as advertising for his evening DJ'ing gig. There is no mention that the ONLY other time that Sean Taylor had a run in with the law was a DUI which the judge himself threw out of court due to no basis for him being arrested. I need to know why if Sean Taylor hasn't divorced himself from his past, has every one he knew, to a man, said that in the past 2 years, he has become a different and even better man than he was before.
Len Shapiro and Michael Wilbon do not know Sean Taylor any more than us fans here in Washington do. The reason for this is, he never talked to them, us, or any of the media, and the media as a whole does not like anyone who doesn't talk to them. It has happened time and time again that if someone spurns the media, they turn on him and make that person into a bad guy, a rebel, because they do not fall in line and do what the others do.
Being a young black male, missing meetings and being charged but never being convicted of any crime is enough for the old school press to label him a gang banger or at the very least, running with the wrong crowd. Michael Wilbon does not know what crowd Sean Taylor ran with, he never spoke to him. His own coach said that he enjoyed Sean Taylor's friends just yesterday in a public address, if nearly 70 year old Joe Gibbs likes his friends, then what kind of crowd must Sean Taylor run with? People say his past caught up with him and they are not surprised, but that is a faulty assumption based off of what they think his personal life entailed. The truth is, they have no idea.
The truth is, no one knows except himself, his family, close friends and a select few teammates that hung with him...and no one, not Michael Wilbon, not Len Shapiro, NO ONE, has ANY right to say anything disparaging about Sean Taylor personal life because anyone who does say anything bad has no idea what Sean Taylor was doing aside from football.
To label him a gangbanger, a thug, a guy who ran in the wrong circles, a guy who "ran in a violent world, embraced it, claimed it" is a fallacy based off of what you assume he did because he was a young black man who did not always follow the establishment's rules. Anyone who labels him any of this must be as threatened by him as wide-receivers who would not cross the middle of the field while he was around.
To the fans, he signed every autograph, he talked and smiled to them. To his friends, he was a happy, friendly guy they wanted to hang around. To his teammates he was a leader and a player who's work ethic was to be admired. To his family, he was a loving father, son, brother, and partner. Not a single person has had anything bad to say about him besides the media, as indicative of Michael Wilbon and Len Shapiro of the Post. What does that say more for the media and the establishment/corporate America than Sean Taylor?
It is a sad indictment indeed. I once was a great fan of the writings of both those Washington Post scribes, but I fear both have lost a great level of respect with me for their words against a great Washington Redskin that was portrayed by the media as a bad guy, but was really a quiet misunderstood man who never cared enough about the media to change their view of him. Their view of him didn't matter, the fans knew, and he was just a man who just wanted to play football the right way and raise his child as best he could.
His former teammate and friend Ryan Clark said it best in the Redskins Insider yesterday:
"Every time they show something about [t]his they show his legalities and things like that, but that's not who he was," Clark said. "it paints a picture like he lived a certain way, so he deserved to go a certain way. But he was a good man and good talent who had become a great man, and I'm said all the people want to focus on is the negative. He was a 24-year-old kid, a brother and a father who passed away. Shame on you Michael Wilbon, Len Shapiro and anyone else in the media that is using this tragic event to help your career and to get on television more while misconstruing facts to further stereotypes, assumptions and generalizations about a man you knew nothing about. Shame on you all for murdering Sean Taylor again in the media. I am not a praying man, but I pray for your souls.
[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 10:50 AM. Reason : ] 11/28/2007 10:49:32 AM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
I can't believe you typed all that shit out.
You are the biggest tool on TWW.
By far. 11/28/2007 11:24:43 AM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
uhh copy/paste? 11/28/2007 11:25:51 AM |
steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
LOL, no seriously.
LOL.
more like,
LOL the Hammer Stanley 11/28/2007 11:27:02 AM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ and you have just proven yourself to be the biggest IDIOT on TWW
congrats!
[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 11:27 AM. Reason : ] 11/28/2007 11:27:09 AM |
steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
biggest dipshit of the year award goes to^ 11/28/2007 11:35:36 AM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
^ Who the fuck are you? random wolfweb fagggot, get off my nuts. 11/28/2007 11:38:40 AM |
steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
who the fuck are you? 11/28/2007 12:16:51 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
terpball according to that blog you pasted it sounds like there are exactly zero people who have ever met or talked to sean taylor 11/28/2007 12:17:10 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
that isn't what it said dude, try reading it again
seriously though, i doubt your reading comprehension is THAT bad - i don't know what you're trying to prove with that stupid post
[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 12:23 PM. Reason : ] 11/28/2007 12:20:51 PM |