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CalledToArms
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imo you just owned yourself. its pretty funny how you point out all their final four and title game appearances when UCLA has them beat in both.

[Edited on December 18, 2007 at 11:44 AM. Reason : ]

12/18/2007 11:43:40 AM

simonn
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don't think i didn't notice how you failed to label a few losing seasons as BAD YEARs either.

12/18/2007 11:44:45 AM

packboozie
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"2002-03 Matt Doherty 19-16 6-10 NIT Quarterfinals "


Wow this means State was BADASS last year!!!

12/18/2007 11:45:53 AM

TreeTwista10
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aww thats so cute how he listed "NCAA First Round" every single time UNC made the tourney and lost their first game to a 15 seed, but when UCLA makes the tourney he only lists it if its a Final Four or a Championship


^^yeah 7-9 isnt a bad year at UNC, but 14-12 is a bad year at UCLA...sounds like he's holding UCLA to a higher standard, and they're STILL the better program

12/18/2007 11:51:15 AM

simonn
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lol, we're all getting trolled so hard.

god dammit.

12/18/2007 12:00:19 PM

CalledToArms
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i think unc and ucla both have around 39 ncaa appearances? i dont have time to count.

anyways, ucla only has 5 appearances where they were less than sweet sixteen and unc has 11. yet another thing ucla has better than unc.

hopefully im right gotta run

12/18/2007 12:00:29 PM

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i've been in conference calls all afternoon and have a shitload of work to catch up on cause I was arguing with yall n00bs all morning long

I'm about to get back on here in a couple hours and finish up and do work on this argument so you will see that it takes more than championships to be considered the best team ever

12/18/2007 2:01:26 PM

TreeTwista10
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hopefully you can make an argument or two before you're suspended

12/18/2007 2:02:54 PM

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"Really? To me it looks like you just showed how UNC has more talent and can't pull through and win it all?
Those numbers show how UCLA wins it all and UNC chokes on a cock like usual. You are not winning this argument bud."

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"Really? To me it looks like you just showed how UNC has more talent and can't pull through and win it all?
Those numbers show how UCLA wins it all and UNC chokes on a cock like usual. You are not winning this argument bud."

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"Really? To me it looks like you just showed how UNC has more talent and can't pull through and win it all?
Those numbers show how UCLA wins it all and UNC chokes on a cock like usual. You are not winning this argument bud."

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"Really? To me it looks like you just showed how UNC has more talent and can't pull through and win it all?
Those numbers show how UCLA wins it all and UNC chokes on a cock like usual. You are not winning this argument bud."

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"Really? To me it looks like you just showed how UNC has more talent and can't pull through and win it all?
Those numbers show how UCLA wins it all and UNC chokes on a cock like usual. You are not winning this argument bud."

12/18/2007 2:05:34 PM

daddytime
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"Those numbers show how UCLA wins it all and UNC chokes on a cock like usual"


While UCLA was choking on a cock during their TWENTY ONE sub .500 seasons, Carolina was enjoying post season play

Excellence doesn't come without consistency

12/18/2007 2:58:03 PM

NyM410
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"The 1939 Tennessee football team had an undefeated AND unscored upon season"


That will not be duplicated by any team ever."


Didn't Yale have an undefeated AND unscored upon season?

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"3/4 of those teams won a title within 2 years of the year you gave so that argument sucks
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In the case of Duke '99 and '01 the core of the team was alomst entirely different. The three (you can argue 4 really with Langdon) best players from the Duke '99 team (Maggette, Brand and Avery) were not on the '01 team...

*** I don't think you can go wrong with UCLA, UNC or Kentucky at 1-3... they are interchangeable to me. UCLA has the most impressive string of titles while UNC and UK have achieved what they have by being CONSISTENTLY great...

[Edited on December 18, 2007 at 3:05 PM. Reason : x]

12/18/2007 3:02:34 PM

TreeTwista10
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"Excellence doesn't come without consistency"


UCLA has consistently made the Final Four the past couple years..UNC has consistently been knocked out of the tournament before the Final Four the past couple years

12/18/2007 3:06:13 PM

NyM410
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What does that have to do with anything?

12/18/2007 3:08:42 PM

TreeTwista10
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what do any of daddytime's posts in this thread have to do with anything?

this thread isnt about consistent mediocrity...its about GREATEST..greatest is winning titles...not consistently making the ncaa tourney and losing in the 2nd round...thats not what the "GREATEST SPORTS TEAM" does...they win titles...lots and lots of national titles...that is what they do

the Indianapolis Colts have won at least 12 games for the past 5 seasons..are they a greater team than the Patriots? Or are the Patriots a greater team since they have won MULTIPLE titles in that period of time

[Edited on December 18, 2007 at 3:12 PM. Reason : .]

12/18/2007 3:10:26 PM

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I don't ever want to see you post UNC or UCLA again.

It has to be University of North Carolina and University of California, Los Angeles.

12/18/2007 3:50:22 PM

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Carolina HAS one MANY NCAA Championships

4 is a shitload
its the 3rd most all time

Winning a lot of championships in a concentrated period of time doesn't make you the greatest program EVER

Carolina has proven themselves in post season-play

UNC has been the number one seed in the NCAA Tournament 11 times, the latest being in 2007 (most #1 seeds all-time)[1].
UNC has been in the Sweet Sixteen 27 times, the latest being in 2007. The 27 appearances is the all-time NCAA record[2].
UNC has been to the Final Four 16 times (2nd all-time).
UNC has been ranked in the top 25 616 times (1st all-time).
UNC has beaten #1 teams a record 11 times
UNC has the most consecutive 20-win seasons, with 31.

12/18/2007 4:01:29 PM

TreeTwista10
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"4 is a shitload
its the 3rd most all time"


11 is a shitload

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"UNC has been to the Final Four 16 times (2nd all-time). "


you post stats where UNC is either ranked 2nd or 3rd...yet the team thats ranked 1st in those stat categories isnt even in the discussion for you

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"I absolutly despise carolina"


LOLOLOLOL STFU you LOOOOOOOOOOOVE UNCCH

maybe if you had come out from the get go and said "yeah I'm a Carolina fan" but instead you tried to lie some more and act like you were a state fan who "despised" UNCCH...nobody believes your horseshit

12/18/2007 4:04:34 PM

daddytime
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You gotta have some Carolina in you if you own property inside the beltline

12/18/2007 4:10:07 PM

TreeTwista10
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so why were you playing the role of a state fan who despised carolina? did you think we were a bunch of dumb rednecks who wouldnt see right through your baby blue faggotry since your first post? is the only reason state fans wouldnt say UNC is #1 in basketball because we dont like UNC? or maybe UCLA actually is the best program? and maybe the only reason JayBee puts Kentucky over UCLA is cause he's an SEC homer?

Dean "The Rednosed Drunk" Smith is John "Big Big Diamonds" Wooden's bitch

12/18/2007 4:13:17 PM

daddytime
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Dean Smith's players have made more money the John Wooden's

12/18/2007 4:24:47 PM

TreeTwista10
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you'd think with all that money Dean could've bought more than 2 titles in 36 years

12/18/2007 4:28:25 PM

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magine what coack K coulda done with a name like UNC
Hell he's about to turn duke into the best basketball program of all time if he lives 30 more years

Dean Smith wasn't THAT great of a coach
He was just the first to recruit black people and good post players

12/18/2007 4:31:15 PM

TreeTwista10
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good post players? like who? UCLA easily pwns UNC in that category

course you probably thought the NBA's all time leading scorer was Jordan

12/18/2007 4:34:08 PM

NyM410
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I'm pretty sure Wooden's players had higher salaries at UCLA than Dean's did at UNC... probably nicer free cars too.

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"Hell he's about to turn duke into the best basketball program of all time if he lives 30 more years"


lol, coach K gonna coach into his 90s?

[Edited on December 18, 2007 at 4:37 PM. Reason : x]

12/18/2007 4:36:53 PM

TreeTwista10
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yeah UNC players didnt really get nicer cars than UCLA players until Jordan opened his dealership

12/18/2007 4:39:32 PM

daddytime
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talking bout east coast numb nuts

Billy Cunningham
Eric Montross
Sam Perkins
Serge Zwikker (don't say shit, he was redshirted 93, and made 2 final fours, maybe 3 while playing)
Brad Daugherty
Rusty Clark

12/18/2007 4:39:36 PM

NyM410
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You left off probably the greatest one... James Worthy

^^ I'm just saying... it's pretty well known that UCLA's payroll rivaled that of any NBA team during that time period..

[Edited on December 18, 2007 at 4:42 PM. Reason : was it sam gilbert who was UCLA's de facto "GM"]

12/18/2007 4:41:08 PM

TreeTwista10
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i wouldnt exactly call Worthy a post player

Kareem and Walton though...those are some post players

12/18/2007 4:41:46 PM

daddytime
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"lol, coach K gonna coach into his 90s"


thats what i was saying
kinda being sarcastic

12/18/2007 4:42:52 PM

NyM410
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"i wouldnt exactly call Worthy a post player"


Well what was he? I'd hardly call him a swingman in the modern day sense... I mean he could pop out and hit some shots but when I think of a swingman today I think of someone like Rip Hamilton...

12/18/2007 4:44:06 PM

TreeTwista10
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when i think post player I think Center...Worthy was an athletic big but thats really just splitting hairs

when i think of the best college post players I think of people like Kareem and Chamberlain...not Big Game James

12/18/2007 4:45:03 PM

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So it was pretty known that UCLA used to hook their players up
I mean i know all teams do it in some shape or fashion
But was UCLA's history of doing it worse than other schools? (or at least more known)?

12/18/2007 4:45:28 PM

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82 heels

Jimmy Black -1
Jordan -2
Worthy -3
Doherty -4
Perkins -5

12/18/2007 4:48:23 PM

TreeTwista10
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funny how dean and jordan couldnt win in 83

12/18/2007 4:49:14 PM

daddytime
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Lorenzo Charles and Thurl Baily dog

12/18/2007 4:50:02 PM

TreeTwista10
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i just figured if UNC was such a great program like you say they were...I mean State knocked off UCLA in 74, but UCLA at least got to the final 4 after winning the previous season...UNC couldnt get back to the final four, even with the great Michael Jordan

12/18/2007 4:51:06 PM

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Mike Jordan was a fairly swag Player of the Year
How could Jalen, Juwan, and C-web not beat the likes of Brian Reece, Derrick Phelps and Kevin Salvadori in 93

12/18/2007 4:54:02 PM

TreeTwista10
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Donald Williams was pretty good

oh yeah and Webber threw the game

course iirc UCLA won it again in 1975...wow multiple decades with multiple titles

I bet UNC-CH wishes they could've won multiple national titles in a single decade like UCLA did on multiple occasions

12/18/2007 4:55:14 PM

daddytime
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How could JJ Hickson HIMSELF not beat fucking ECU
crazy shit fucking happens in College basketball

12/18/2007 4:55:56 PM

TreeTwista10
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you sure do have an inferiority complex against UCLA dont you

just face it, they're the best college basketball program of all time and always will be

12/18/2007 4:57:07 PM

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"oh yeah and Webber threw the game"


First of all he traveled after the inbound pass because derrick phelps was playing good defense and cut off webbers first outlet pass option

Second of all Carolina was up 2 points with fouls to give

The game was pretty much in Carolina's hands before he called that timeout

12/18/2007 5:00:44 PM

TreeTwista10
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good now if they could only win 1 more title they'd have almost half as many as UCLA

12/18/2007 5:01:45 PM

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"I bet UNC-CH wishes they could've won multiple national titles in a single decade like UCLA did on multiple occasions"


I bet UCLA wishes they woulda won championships in more decades than 3

Carolina has 4 spread out mo fucka
Consistency baby

[Edited on December 18, 2007 at 5:03 PM. Reason : nucka]

12/18/2007 5:02:20 PM

TreeTwista10
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"Carolina has 4 spread out mo fucka
Consistency baby
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omg 4 titles wow is that the most ever?????

UCLA has 11 spread out mo fucka

Domination, BITCH

12/18/2007 5:04:59 PM

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I've never heard anyone say "man, where the hell has Carolina been this whole time, I havn't seen them play this good in years"

Can't say the same for UCLA

12/18/2007 5:06:10 PM

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I agree that Carolina should be ahead of UCLA... but Kentucky is ahead of Carolina

12/18/2007 5:07:32 PM

daddytime
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UCLA had 10 all jumbled up than a stray ed obannon coast to coast fluke in 95

thats not spread out

12/18/2007 5:07:46 PM

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Where has UCLA been? In the Final Four last year for one thing, while the Tarheels had one of the worst end-of-game collapses in NCAA history against the Hoyas...or as most people call it "pulling a UNC"

but who cares about Final Fours or titles? Its all about making the tourney for 27 straight years...THAT is the most impressive stat in all of sports

^^shut your SEC biased mouth

^UCLA dominated entire decades...DOMINATED...and you mention the word 'fluke' with them? UNC relied on a completely retarded Georgetown guard's turnover in 82, they relied on point shaver in 93, and they relied on the refs to not calling travelling on them against Villanova in the most recent championship season

UNC has never dominated like UCLA...nobody has, and nobody will again

[Edited on December 18, 2007 at 5:10 PM. Reason : .]

12/18/2007 5:08:37 PM

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guarantee you calapari or steve lavin would've accepted the state job had we gone to 27 straight tournaments

12/18/2007 5:10:06 PM

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"had we gone to 27 straight tournaments"


you did go to 27 straight tournaments, but why would UNC want lavin or calipari when they have roy

12/18/2007 5:11:28 PM

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