simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The opera scene where he's on top of the stage looking at the crowd and compromises the QUANTUM meeting is honestly one of the best Bond moments in any movie." |
LOL, WHAT?11/16/2008 7:05:19 AM |
leftyisreal All American 2145 Posts user info edit post |
saw this today freakin awesome! 11/16/2008 9:00:16 PM |
PackMan92 All American 8284 Posts user info edit post |
meh
Casino Royale was better 11/16/2008 10:00:55 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Damn this movie stank
I spent the first hour paying really close attention to trying to figure out what the fuck was going on
Then I realized the move wasn't too smart for me, but too dumb for me
so I just sat back and enjoyed it for the mindless action scenes 11/16/2008 10:04:31 PM |
elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
unfortunately, i know it's not just all the hype i had for this movie that made me feel "meh"
i disliked shaky cam, and the plot was blah. i don't fault Daniel Craig, cause he did a great job with what he was given. so I'll be waiting for the next installation
it's worth the watch...i just didn't walk out all "OMG!!!" like i did after CR... 11/16/2008 10:50:36 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
The people that say it's the best Bond movie ever must be joking.
also, the villain was horrible, it seemed like they tried to have him do some random bad things so we would dislike him more, because otherwise we really didn't give a fuck and he really didn't seem that evil.
almost as bad as hancock in the villain dept. 11/16/2008 11:40:38 PM |
omicron101 All American 3662 Posts user info edit post |
I loved it!! I thought they did a great job adding to the story Casino Royale set up. The character development was great as well. I didn't care for the shaky cam during action sequences, but other than that I really enjoyed it. It had pretty much everything you could want in a Bond movie IMO. Daniel Craig was amazing again as Bond. I have to say that out of all the actors to play Bond he's the only one that comes across as scary and unpredictable. I love that!!! 11/16/2008 11:42:06 PM |
Sese New Recruit 4 Posts user info edit post |
I was a little bit disappointed by Quantum, with an expectation of matching up with the Casino Royale. The character was not fully developed from the image of a heart-broken revenger who barely recovered from the death of his loved one. Bond's roof-jumping ability was secondary to Bourne, so I really wondered how much Forster can take on an action movie. Kurylenko was hot but also was boring as the Bond girl. Bond made unprofessional killer mistake, which devastated Bond's inside essence. Beside the value of forgiveness, I also learn a good lesson that the omnipotent Amex black card can also be turned off just like any other card.
[Edited on November 17, 2008 at 12:28 AM. Reason : typo] 11/17/2008 12:27:09 AM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
frankly i didnt enjoy as much that they added on to CR. I like the older bond films being, to an extent, independent stories of each other.
Also ther was never really a big unveiling moment of the sinister plot as has been trademark of most bond films .... the whole confusion between oil and water in the film is never really "stated," it's just kind of put out there and left to stew.
and yah the bad guy was meh and Olga was -MUCH- hotter in Hitman.
but it kept my attention and was entertaining. I'd say ...6-7/10
it was good but it could have been better
[Edited on November 17, 2008 at 12:28 AM. Reason : sd] 11/17/2008 12:27:34 AM |
Mattallica All American 6512 Posts user info edit post |
I saw the movie
what happened?
where were gadgets? Why was the signature music and scene at the end? Did he say Bond, James Bond? 11/17/2008 2:07:54 AM |
wut Suspended 977 Posts user info edit post |
The movie sucked.
It was Bond in a Bourne style movie.
Fucking posers. No cool gadgets either. 11/17/2008 2:08:51 AM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
no cool gadgets? Bond is all about the gadgets........wtf 11/17/2008 2:21:05 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
^,^^,^^^
You all are way off and behind. They are recreating Bond. Q isn't even along yet. He just became a 00 in CR. Now he is learning the ways and who to trust in QofS. 11/17/2008 3:04:50 AM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
The fact that he is still "learning" doesn't make up for poor writing. 11/17/2008 3:28:15 AM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
Paul Haggis is grossly overrated. 11/17/2008 3:29:14 AM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
Casino Royale 1.5
Casino Royale Lite. 11/17/2008 8:19:24 AM |
Yodajammies All American 3229 Posts user info edit post |
This movie blew. Plain and simple.
No gadgets. Shaky cam. Bond girl wasn't that hot. Intro credits / song were AWFUL. Weak sauce villain. Bowl cut, wtf? Mediocre plot.
C- at best. 11/17/2008 10:02:44 AM |
wut Suspended 977 Posts user info edit post |
The girl who was suppose to bring him back in... yea I like how he just had to ask her to help him "find the stationary"... and the next thing you know they were fucking.
Jesus that was corny as hell, and pathetic for a Bond movie.
Quote : | "^,^^,^^^
You all are way off and behind. They are recreating Bond. Q isn't even along yet. He just became a 00 in CR. Now he is learning the ways and who to trust in QofS." |
ORLY?
Explain the cool gadgets in Casino Royale then...
[Edited on November 17, 2008 at 12:58 PM. Reason : .]11/17/2008 12:57:58 PM |
ddf583 All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
what cool gadgets in Casino Royale? 11/17/2008 1:22:36 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
the only gadget I remember from Casino Royale was the glove box defibrillator ..... and that's not much of a gadget 11/17/2008 1:27:02 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Not sure if they ever explained the scars on the girls back, but I'm guessing they were from the Fidel Castro wannabe that murdered her family 11/17/2008 1:38:27 PM |
ddf583 All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
didn't he burn down her house after raping and killing her mother and sister? I guess it happened then, which would explain her fear of fire. 11/17/2008 1:43:00 PM |
peakseeker All American 2900 Posts user info edit post |
Appearantly a lot of posters in this thread do not realize that this movie is the finale of Casino Royale. If you never saw Casino Royale, or its been a while since you saw the movie, then you had a hard time following it.
They never did a good job marketing this fact - basically, the two movies combined is one "feature", not even a "sequel". Quantum starts off EXACTLY where teh last scene from Royale left off in the very last scene.
Another fact that you people missed is that Casino Royale and Quantum are Bonds first "assigntment". He isnt even a double-O agent yet, and he is a rookie. When Daniel Craig started, they decided to tell teh story from the begining of his career - this is why they showed his first kill ever in casino and they reference his personal ability to kill multiple times the in the Quantum. He kills a lot of people because he is a rookie.
this is also why the gadgets are not as much as the story, and Q is not there, and he does not say Bond, james Bond all the time. He hasnt got his signature drink either - keep that in mind.
[Edited on November 17, 2008 at 1:55 PM. Reason : .] 11/17/2008 1:53:04 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
^ He did get his signature drink. 11/17/2008 2:01:46 PM |
wut Suspended 977 Posts user info edit post |
Bond had a pretty tricked out car in Casino Royale 11/17/2008 2:09:12 PM |
omicron101 All American 3662 Posts user info edit post |
^ if by tricked out you mean had a GPS, then yeah i guess 11/17/2008 2:20:25 PM |
wut Suspended 977 Posts user info edit post |
He also had a host of sony toys, even though they werent impressive they were far beyond anything in Quantum.
The car itself was cooler than any toy in the entire Quantum movie
[Edited on November 17, 2008 at 2:34 PM. Reason : .] 11/17/2008 2:32:37 PM |
omicron101 All American 3662 Posts user info edit post |
well the gadgets always came up with Q, who hasn't been introduced yet. i'm hoping they will bring him and the gadgets in on the next one.
also, this may have been discussed in this thread before, but is Quantum supposed to be the old S.P.E.C.T.R.E.? 11/17/2008 2:36:00 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
yes 11/17/2008 2:52:20 PM |
peakseeker All American 2900 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^ He did get his signature drink.
" |
ahh yes - they did described the drink in detail when he couldnt sleep and mathis woke up. but he didnt order it with his usual line i dont recall.11/17/2008 3:26:15 PM |
ViolentMAW All American 4127 Posts user info edit post |
i don't really care about the gadgets or drinks
i'm still not really sure what happened at the end i need to do some reading - the movie just felt disconnected i would say
the characters in this movie just were not as interesting - i thought vesper was a great character and i enjoyed the catty interactions between her and bond
the dual between bond and the La Scheffe at the poker table was also another great thing about Casino Royal
this movie just failed to deliver
the action was pretty good but the story just wasn't there 11/17/2008 3:44:24 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
I felt the movie climaxed too soon. 11/17/2008 4:02:31 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
I like more of an all powerful bad guy in my bond movies
I don't need some crazy power like for him to have a bullet in his head that makes him immune to pain, or him to have a ninja hat, or whatever, but he has to be a little more badass than a frenchman with the lock down on your water supply
Also this moving was missing a badass henchman...Bond movies are known for having a signature henchman that helps the main bad guy 11/17/2008 4:51:07 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
yeah they need to have a bad guy to blame shit on, not THE EVIL CORPORATIONS 11/17/2008 4:52:42 PM |
wut Suspended 977 Posts user info edit post |
^^ 11/17/2008 5:06:05 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Another fact that you people missed is that Casino Royale and Quantum are Bonds first "assigntment". He isnt even a double-O agent yet, and he is a rookie. When Daniel Craig started, they decided to tell teh story from the begining of his career - this is why they showed his first kill ever in casino and they reference his personal ability to kill multiple times the in the Quantum. He kills a lot of people because he is a rookie." |
hilariously wrong
some of you guys are like "OMG this is Fleming's Bond! He's so awesome!" and then some of you are like "HE's A ROOKIE AND ITS OK! THIS IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE!"
and sadly, both are wrong11/17/2008 11:13:37 PM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, he gains his double-O status not long into Casino Royale. that is just plain wrong.
the more i think about it, the movie isn't as bad as i thought it was. it certainly still has its flaws though. my enjoyment would have benefited greatly had i remembered what happened in the last movie.
[Edited on November 17, 2008 at 11:44 PM. Reason : .] 11/17/2008 11:36:08 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
WTF CAN SOmeobody hire A FucKIng cAMERA MAN THAT DOESNT HAVE SEiSURES EVERY 2 SECONDS?!?!? I CANT EVEN TELL WHO IS GETTING THEIR SHIT ROCKED im TOO BUSY TRYING NOT TO THROW UP
A who the fuck is quantum solstice? 11/18/2008 12:30:17 AM |
peakseeker All American 2900 Posts user info edit post |
^^,^^^ wrong and wrong - but its cool 11/18/2008 9:45:31 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
give sean connery a buttload of money to be the next villain plz 11/18/2008 10:04:08 AM |
wut Suspended 977 Posts user info edit post |
^ Dude he died a while ago... 11/18/2008 11:49:37 AM |
icanread2 All American 1450 Posts user info edit post |
i really dont know how i feel admitting this, but me and the girl walked out of this last night
sure, go ahead and flame away, but i have transporter at home
death of the franchise mayhaps? 11/18/2008 11:50:36 AM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^,^^^ wrong and wrong - but its cool" |
from Wikipedia
Quote : | "In Prague, James Bond earns his double-O status when he corners and kills corrupt MI6 section chief Dryden and his underworld contact Fisher." |
11/18/2008 12:01:28 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "death of the franchise mayhaps? " |
Most $$ made by a Bond movie ever =/= death of a franchise.
If it was going to die it would have died with one of the god-awful Brosnan films.
^^^and wtf are you even talking about?
[Edited on November 18, 2008 at 12:52 PM. Reason : h`]11/18/2008 12:52:32 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^ Dude he died a while ago..." |
wut???11/18/2008 12:56:55 PM |
ddf583 All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
^^I thought Goldeneye was pretty good. 11/18/2008 1:17:19 PM |
scm011 All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
but tomorrow never dies, the world is not enough and die another day were horrid 11/18/2008 2:12:11 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
fucking awesome movie. DID NOT DISAPPOINT. 11/19/2008 11:42:01 PM |
Mattallica All American 6512 Posts user info edit post |
really?
selling water to the bolivians qualifies a bond villian now?
really? 11/20/2008 12:07:49 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Better qualification than a dude that has to sit under a rainbow brite mask to complete his gender swap operation and his brother that has diamonds sticking out of his face.
I haven't seen this one, but one of the things I liked about the last one was that the events were more grounded in reality than the previous Bonds that I've seen. So yeah, kinda makes sense to use villains that are nothing more than people with lots of money that are out there using it for ill deeds... since there's a shortage of metal teeth zombies that are skilled at throwing Kung Lao hats all over the place.
[Edited on November 20, 2008 at 7:23 AM. Reason : -] 11/20/2008 7:21:51 AM |