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"when bush first ran for president, democrats scrutinized him for a DUI in college, possible cocain use in college, and said his downfall was too much partying in college. obama, who admits to doing the same thing gets away with any media coverage whatsoever ... not everyone read this guys book, why did the media do it for bush and not obama"

[Edited on November 15, 2008 at 3:35 PM. Reason : ]

11/15/2008 3:35:06 PM

Quote :

"when bush first ran for president, democrats scrutinized him for a DUI in college, possible cocain use in college, and said his downfall was too much partying in college. obama, who admits to doing the same thing"

Um, no. Obama does not have a DUI, did not fry his brain from coke and alcohol, and did not have the reputation of being a partier.

So, not the same thing.

11/15/2008 3:35:22 PM

he did coke, he "fried his brain from coke"

stop talking

11/15/2008 3:36:05 PM

Quote :

" the media talking about something is not "scrutinizing" it. The media talked about Obama's past when he first started running too. "

11/15/2008 3:36:54 PM

you didnt read obama's bio obviously .. he did coke, frequently

[Edited on November 15, 2008 at 3:39 PM. Reason : crack, im sorry]

[Edited on November 15, 2008 at 3:41 PM. Reason : you certainly dont hear this on msnbc]

11/15/2008 3:38:03 PM

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11/15/2008 3:41:41 PM

seriously, man. i'm with you.

why isn't the liberal media continuously reporting on this, everyday. i need updates. there is certainly nothing more important going on in the world than obama's admitted drug use several decades ago.


[Edited on November 15, 2008 at 3:58 PM. Reason : .]

11/15/2008 3:57:42 PM

Obama has been honest about his past in that area. Bush was evasive, which drew more scrutiny.

Plus, Bush had a reputation with alcohol and partying, which was the bigger issue because it was responsible for his shitty college performance, not so much his coke use. Obama did not have these issues.

So your contention that Obama admitted to doing the same thing or has done the same thing as Bush is wrong. And the media didn't give the same scrutiny with Obama in this area because he was not as evasive about it.

And, I think Bush's mini-stroke moments led to more curiosity about his past because people wondered whether it would affect his capacity to be president. Obama's cognitive ability has never been a negative.

[Edited on November 15, 2008 at 4:12 PM. Reason : .]

11/15/2008 4:11:47 PM

are you kidding me

it would be headline news if bush had admitted to it, which he hasnt, unless youve seen him do it then no evidence .. barack has admitted to it .. congrats, his morals are just as bad

you still havnt answered why its big news when liberal journalists reports it, with little or no proof, and kept obama clean, like i said, hes been free of any media scutiny

[Edited on November 15, 2008 at 4:19 PM. Reason : ]

11/15/2008 4:19:04 PM

You fail at making any kind of intelligent reply, so I have nothing more to say.

11/15/2008 4:24:24 PM

k ... amuse me, answer the claim

[Edited on November 15, 2008 at 4:42 PM. Reason : being forthcomming does not condone the use]

11/15/2008 4:40:57 PM

^^^
How does admitting to prior drug use make one's morals bad?

11/15/2008 11:07:14 PM

-- Barack Obama experimented with drugs in high school.

-- George W. Bush "experimented" with drugs as a pilot in the Texas Air National Guard, and as a 30-year-old republican campaign worker.


clearly, George W. is the superior moral person. because he found Jesus and that's what stopped his boozing, coke snorting ways.

11/16/2008 1:23:07 AM

^You are entirely missing the point (and promoting anit-Bush propaganda while defending Obama for doing the exact same thing).

They both delved into illegal practices. Both men! Both were wrong.

Now lets take the first step towards removing your political blinders.........

Say it with me......Bush and Obama were wrong. One more time....Bush and Obama were wrong.....Bush was wrong.....Obama was wrong.....

11/17/2008 10:22:15 AM

I actually don't believe that either one of them was wrong for drug use if it didn't interfere with their normal daily lives and they managed to continue being productive.

that being said, it appears if this stipulation doesn't apply to bush as he readily admits that his use adversely affected him and did so during a stage in his life when his judgment has more weight, namely being a parent.


the times in their life where they partook in these similar actions are hugely different. doing drugs in college when you have little responsibility and when the ones you do have solely affect you is tremendously different than doing so when you're a father to two and have a wife.

11/17/2008 12:25:06 PM

First off, A crime is a crime. Illegal is illegal. Both men lacked judgement and both are PERSONAL RESPONSIBLE for their actions.

If you want to argue for a change in federal and state law for drug legalization thats fine, but thats not what were discussing here. They were both wrong! I want to see if you guys can just admit that Obama was wrong for once in your lives.

Quote :

"college when you have little responsibility"

So are you saying that college kids are not yet responsible adults since they have little impact on the lives of others? If so, could this possibly be an explanation as to why college kids are predominately Democrats?

11/17/2008 12:53:11 PM

I hold you PERSONAL RESPONSIBLE for such crap posts

11/17/2008 12:55:51 PM

Quote :

"I actually don't believe that either one of them was wrong for drug use "

did you miss the part where i said that I didn't believe either one of them was wrong? how could i decree obama as wrong when i don't find anything wrong with the action itself.

they both did something illegal, yes. i'll say it again, they both committed minor misdemeanors, yes. what you're failing to admit here is that the act of committing a crime doesn't always stand to make it an equal offense as other committed offenses of the same crime. they're called mitigating circumstances and i'm sure you're aware of them. That is why people who drink and drive with a person under 16 in the car is punished more harshly than someone who receives a DUI when only themselves are in the car. laconically put, there are varying degrees of wrong.

for me, despite being illegal, i don't see the simple act of drug use as immoral or 'wrong' but there are circumstances and actions that, for me, can push the use into the barrier of being immoral or wrong. perhaps for you the sheer act itself is wrong and therefore obama did something wrong and bush exists in an area that consists of a more severe degree of wrong, but since i don't find the act itself to be wrong i can reasonably state that obama may not have been in the wrong through his use while bush reasonably was.

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"So are you saying that college kids are not yet responsible adults since they have little impact on the lives of others? If so, could this possibly be an explanation as to why college kids are predominately Democrats?"

way to entirely slant my statement. that isn't even what i implied. i acknowledged that college kids have less responsibility than they would later on in life. Can you deny this? I also said that the responsibility most directly affects them as opposed to the responsibilities of a father of a single income home that has the burden of a wife and two kids. can you deny this? There was nothing said about not being responsible or capable adults. my comment only concerned the detriment that could be realized if requirements of those responsibilities were not met.

11/17/2008 1:09:28 PM

IR Serious Cat

This R Serious Post

Hey hooksaw, what do you think of MSNBC?

[Edited on November 18, 2008 at 4:45 PM. Reason : .]

11/18/2008 4:44:49 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081217/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama;_ylt=AnX3o5SRE18V5pZB9bw1FCGyFz4D

Quote :

"Defense Secretary Robert Gates, whom Obama asked to remain in office, is the other Republican tapped so far for the incoming Cabinet."

from what i was told gates was like unaffiliated...thats the liberal media trying to portray obama as a centrist

12/17/2008 6:26:53 PM

Hearst Looks to Sell or Close Seattle Paper

Quote :

"The Seattle Post-Intelligencer will stop printing in 60 days unless the newspaper's owner, the Hearst Corporation, can find a buyer by then, the company said on Friday. Hearst said that if it could not find a buyer, it would either shut the paper entirely or make it an Internet-only operation with a much-reduced staff."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/10/business/media/10paper.html

Cash Crunch At New York Times (NYT): $400 Million Due In May

http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/11/cash-crunch-at-new-york-times-nyt-400-million-due-in-may

1/14/2009 12:43:05 AM

Quote :

"From above, even the seagulls must have been awed by the blanket of humanity."

--Bill Weir, ABC News

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=yduzpruzSU

Chris Matthews' Inaugural Jib-Jabbery
The MSNBC motormouth talks a lot, says nothing.

Quote :

"MSNBC is the 'it' network for the Obama masses? That's news to me. Olbermann approached his colleague like a teetotaler trying to talk down a drunk, offering the opinion that people might be smiling about the shared experience of the Obama inauguration. But Matthews wasn't having it. Matthews: No, this is the network of the 21st century, MSNBC. And I think we're open to it. And that's why this crowd knows us. And I think— Olbermann: He's Chris Matthews, and he approved that message. Matthews: We're not crotchety about change, stuffy."

http://www.slate.com/id/2209405/pagenum/2

[Edited on January 22, 2009 at 3:20 PM. Reason : LOL!]

1/22/2009 3:19:41 PM

I didn't realize this thread was hooksaw's personal blog.

I recommend visiting this site: https://www.godaddy.com/

1/22/2009 3:24:04 PM

1/22/2009 4:34:01 PM

When journalist Donna Brazile was asked about stealing Obama's presidental blanket from the White House, she responds: “We have a black President. [holds up blanket] This is free.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpkm0xdfghA

1/22/2009 5:35:47 PM

bush's cocaine thing was more about him being a horrible student.

i dont even remember this being a big deal on the news.

1/22/2009 5:44:51 PM

bump by request

6/9/2009 6:45:59 PM

Quote :

"In a way, Obama is standing above the country--above the world. He's sort of god."

--Evan Thomas, assistant managing editor at Newsweek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbvXH05dot0

Just wow.

6/9/2009 6:51:30 PM

Yeah its hard to get credible news about our government these days. Most of the media outlets are too busy dealing with carpet burn on their knees.

6/10/2009 8:43:57 AM

lol

6/10/2009 9:22:46 AM

Quote :

"its hard to get credible news about our government these days."

Are you kidding?

6/10/2009 9:23:29 AM

LONDON SHOCK FASHION: MICHELLE AND THE ORANGE SNAKE

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1191620/First-Lady-flamboyance-Michelle-Obamas-confident-duty-chic-London-city-break.html

6/10/2009 10:03:19 AM

The terrible shooting at the U.S. Holocaust Museum was the lead story on ABC's World News with Charles Gibson June 10, 2009--as it should have been. Yet, I do not recall any coverage by World News of the equally terrible shooting of a young U.S. soldier by a Muslim extremist on June 1, 2009. Why the difference, I wonder?

6/11/2009 2:30:29 AM

because muslim extremists typically try to kill soldiers while 88 year old ppl dont typically shoot up security guards at museums?

6/11/2009 2:35:57 AM

88 YEAR OLD NEO NAZIS WOOOOOOOOO

6/11/2009 8:49:58 AM

Quote :

"because muslim extremists typically try to kill soldiers while 88 year old ppl dont typically shoot up security guards at museums?"

Holy shit, there is a brain in there somewhere.

6/11/2009 9:26:51 AM

I have to admit, Im pretty impressed how most of the media is going after Letterman.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/747/story/774789.html

6/11/2009 11:19:02 AM

The Today Show is "the media"?

6/11/2009 12:50:33 PM

Its from NBC the officially sanctioned network.. still impressive. Most of the others have commented against his comments too.

6/11/2009 1:38:36 PM

So is Regis and Kelly also "the media"? As well? I'm just wondering how low on the vapidity line we have to go before it's no longer considered "the media"?

6/11/2009 2:59:54 PM

^x5 Are you serious? You consider that a valid response?

^^^ Um. . .The Today Show is part of NBC News. Fail Boat really is a good username for you.

6/11/2009 5:08:24 PM

Ok, if you include The Today Show in with your MSM criteria then you absolutely have no reason to be critical of the MSM. I'm sorry your standards are so low.

6/11/2009 5:50:15 PM

^ It's not my standard. The Today Show is part of NBC News, period.

6/11/2009 6:12:37 PM

It absolutely is your standard. If you give two shits what The Today Show has to say about the state of the union, you've failed. Hard.

6/11/2009 6:42:58 PM

Quote :

"It's not my standard. The Today Show is part of NBC News, period."

This is a fact. Sorry, but you're wrong again.

6/11/2009 8:36:26 PM

I'm not even debating that fact, so how the hell am I wrong you old fucking douche? You've owned yourself because you think The Today Show is a serious MSM outlet. There is no amount of posting over and over again that they do in fact deliver news that can save you from this. Now go get paranoid and disappear from the wolf web again.

6/11/2009 8:50:43 PM

^

Quote :

". . .[T]hey do in fact deliver news. . . ."

Now you have it.

6/11/2009 8:53:38 PM

Daltowned.

6/11/2009 9:21:50 PM

yes, lots of shows "deliver the news", but that doesn't mean they are "news shows"
O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Hannity? According to your other thread, O'Reilly viewers are as well informed on current events as NPR listeners, but does that mean he is news? Sure, he delivers news, but with a healthy dose of commentary and snark.

The Today Show? Regis and Kelly? The Early Show? Entertainment shows, which, yes, have some news content. What else do you expect them to talk about for 4 hours?

6/11/2009 9:58:09 PM

Quote :

"NBC News pioneered the morning news program when it launched 'Today' over 56 years ago, with Dave Garroway as host. The four-hour live broadcast provides the latest in domestic and international news, weather reports and interviews with newsmakers from the worlds of politics, business, media, entertainment and sports."

Quote :

"Since the program's premiere broadcast on January 14, 1952, 'Today's' hallmark has been its ability to revise an entire edition to bring viewers breaking news as it happens. In that fashion, 'Today' delivered immediate coverage of such events as Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath, the Tsunami that wreaked havoc in a dozen Asian nations, the September 11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center, the death of John F. Kennedy, Jr., the tragic high school shootings in Littleton, Colorado, the crash of TWA Flight 800, the death of Princess Diana, and the Oklahoma City bombing and trials. Matt Lauer and Meredith Vieira are co-anchors of 'Today.' Ann Curry is the news anchor."

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/3079108/

6/11/2009 10:36:35 PM