raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
true, but there could have been another reason why. just don't know yet.
I've done shopping late at night before, just recently did it, doesn't make me guilty of anything but not being able to sleep. 7/16/2008 1:54:15 PM |
NCSUGirl83 All American 10343 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Authorities declined to comment on local reports that a surveillance video exists in which Brad Cooper is allegedly shown purchasing bleach the night before Cooper's disappearance.
"We cannot confirm or deny whether he was at the store and whether he did purchase bleach or any kind of cleaning products the morning of her disappearance," said Bazemore. " |
7/16/2008 1:54:36 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
no one buys just bleach at 4am
at least not "normal people" with houses, jobs, and families 7/16/2008 1:54:42 PM |
NCSUGirl83 All American 10343 Posts user info edit post |
^^^yeah i used to do all of my grocery shopping at 4am b/c i couldn't sleep and it was a lot faster and less annoying not having to deal with people
^true...and it seems like if he did he would have said first thing "yes i did and this is why..." with some explanation or something
[Edited on July 16, 2008 at 1:56 PM. Reason : c ] 7/16/2008 1:55:27 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
true.. buying JUST bleach is weird
but i mean if they've been having problems maybe he just couldn't sleep.. 7/16/2008 1:56:13 PM |
NCSUGirl83 All American 10343 Posts user info edit post |
if he did buy bleach at 4 am and she went missing that morning...it's too suspect. if it's true then i def think it was him 7/16/2008 1:57:28 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
panicking is a bitch
that's, just one of many reasons why you don't do really bad things
most people would never get away with it
either you'll do something stupid before, during, or after
crimes, white-collar or otherwise... just don't even think about 'em
[Edited on July 16, 2008 at 1:58 PM. Reason : .] 7/16/2008 1:58:09 PM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
If he was just not able to sleep and decided to buy some random thing as an excuse to get out of the house, then I can see that.
NCSUGirl83, I still do a lot of my grocery shopping at night, for those same reasons you said.
dunno, really hopin he didn't do it (for the daughters' sake). 7/16/2008 2:00:09 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
doesn't look good though 7/16/2008 2:01:48 PM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
no it doesnt 7/16/2008 2:13:48 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
you can't ever trust those damn cisco people 7/16/2008 2:28:11 PM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
some people have been posting some new info on the wral comments page. don't know where they get all their "info" or if it is true 7/16/2008 2:28:35 PM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
yeah I know. it s always "i heard this" or "my best friend's sister's cousin heard that" 7/16/2008 3:18:34 PM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
do tell 7/16/2008 3:19:08 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i'm sure the black community is rooting for it to be the husband ( a white upper middle class male) and not a black street thug." |
I'M hoping it will be the husband.
because what freaks me out, is random violence where a jogger gets plucked off the road and killed for no reason. And it has nothing to do with white or black. (But just for the record, random serial murderers are overwhelmingly white.)
now what DOESNT freak me out, is when some jealous husband, terrified of facing an impending (or imagined) divorce/alimony/custody case, decides to kill his wife and make it look like it was a random act of violence and/or disappearance.
what generally happens is a case that initially appears as the former, winds up quickly becoming a case of the latter.
i do feel bad for the woman -- and i feel terrible for the kids -- but this is the resolution where i can sleep better at night. it affects one family. the random murder alternative, affects everyone: our whole society.
[Edited on July 16, 2008 at 3:35 PM. Reason : ]7/16/2008 3:23:29 PM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
still, this whole thing jsut crazy. 7/16/2008 4:21:43 PM |
CassTheSass cupid 35382 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i mean, it's pretty simple.. if she wasn't wearing jogging clothes when she was found dead, he was lying. and i bet she wasn't" |
agreed.
about not worrying when a loved one is gone for a few hours....she was expected home around 9am and then was to go to a friend's house. if he was concerned after not seeing her, you would think he would have called the friend's house to say, "hey i haven't seen my wife, is she with you?"
the husband not showing up to press conferences at the last minute....sketch. if he did do it, it sounds like he has a guilty conscience.
i'm still banking on, she went home not feeling well, he came home later (there could have been some drinking at the get together they were at), they got into an argument (maybe about her leaving the party), and she was accidentially killed. the husband freaked, dumped the body in the middle of the night, bought bleach, tried to "clean up," and then the next morning claimed she went for a run. i mean he could have even gone as far as changing her clothes into a running outfit to make it seem like she did.
i'm not trying to point fingers here but......things aren't lookin too good for the husband.7/16/2008 5:06:35 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "because what freaks me out, is random violence where a jogger gets plucked off the road and killed for no reason. " |
This. And it's completely ridiculous what the police keep telling the media. Over the past few days I've heard:
"This is an isolated incident" "This was not a random act of violence"
The first statement was before they found the body, the second was shortly after they identified the body. Just stuff they say to keep people from worrying when the truth of the matter is that they have no way of knowing until they discover who the killer was.
"Don't worry, nothing to see here. Move along"7/16/2008 5:37:40 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
^ maybe the police knew more than just what they told the press?
stranger things have happened.
^^ Cass, i read somewhere that she was telling him she wanted him to move out of the house. we don't need to have drinking or arguments or even an accident. 7/16/2008 6:37:52 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and yeah, if I had a wife and me and her were having problems and she wanted me to leave, I'd say fuck no, b/c I pay the mortgage and the bills. you wanna leave, go right ahead.
" |
good one
^ yea i heard she was wanting him to move out of the house as well. did the wral comments thread say anything about an affair? i've heard so much crap (because of where i work) but its like, everyone is suddenly bff with the family at a time like this but i don't think the people that are ACTUALLY close to them would be saying personal things. esp things that could compromise the investigation. so...who knows.7/16/2008 8:23:08 PM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
oh man the comment section of wral is going all to hell. its almost crazy. I finally read them all, that's where the whole "buying bleach at 4am" thing started.
at the entire wral comments board; they're batshit crazy.
and yes, if I was paying the bills and she wanted me out, I say damn that; she can leave. 7/16/2008 9:12:22 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
we got the same problem here, with the Seattle paper. their website for "comments" section is full of the most outrageous batshit lunatics i've ever fucking seen, on the left and on the right, and in the middle.
its so painful to try read the comments section of newspaper forums, i don't even bother anymore. ... so everything i know about this cary jogger case, ive gotten from mainstream media articles and this website.
its just amazing that TWW is more rational and thoughtful than the comment boards of major newspapers. but i guess i shouldnt be surprised. 7/16/2008 10:03:02 PM |
CassTheSass cupid 35382 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^ Cass, i read somewhere that she was telling him she wanted him to move out of the house. we don't need to have drinking or arguments or even an accident." |
oh i agree.....but i was speculating on the terms that they were at a neighborhood get together that night before. not saying they were drinking but its a possibility.7/16/2008 10:08:56 PM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
fox news is covering the story right now and is interviewing the lady who reported her missing 7/16/2008 10:09:49 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
^^ okay, yeah, i guess i can see that too. its not hard to imagine how something like that could happen and get out of control. especially when (if) alcohol's involved.
and i agree with raiden's sentiment: "IF" my wife and I were having marital problems ... and "especially IF" she were having an affair... AND she wanted ME to move out yet i was the one paying >50% of the bills... I'd be like "fuck that", too.
but, OTOH, maybe he cheated on her first, maybe he's been a total psycho or abusive or just a general loser abusing drugs or alcohol... a bad influence on the children ... in that case, she would have every right to make him leave for the children's sake.
whatever it was, it's too bad things didnt get worked out like they should have.
and yes, i'm pretty convinced he did it. if only because i have like 99% of historical probability on my side.
[Edited on July 16, 2008 at 10:12 PM. Reason : ] 7/16/2008 10:11:07 PM |
crpelliz All American 1432 Posts user info edit post |
that's all any of this is - speculation. i stopped reading the news after they determined it was her body because i knew the media would be hurrying to get out the latest "breaking news" only to make the story more convoluted. the way people latch onto the details and try to convict a man before he's even been named a suspect is sickening, but i know this country truly runs on a "guilty until proven innocent" process. i know brad and i'm holding out all hope that he's innocent. 7/16/2008 10:12:18 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the way people latch onto the details and try to convict a man before he's even been named a suspect is sickening...
i know brad and i'm holding out all hope that he's innocent." |
ah dammit. the moderating voice of reason.
[Edited on July 16, 2008 at 10:15 PM. Reason : ]7/16/2008 10:13:04 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
ok ok nvm
[Edited on July 16, 2008 at 10:13 PM. Reason : asdf] 7/16/2008 10:13:15 PM |
crpelliz All American 1432 Posts user info edit post |
haha sry, i can't help it. it's all incredibly upsetting - just imagine if it were a friend being thrown to the wolves 7/16/2008 10:14:38 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
no, you're absolutely right. and i know it. and fox news knows it.
but dammit, its just so much fun to speculate that Colonel Mustard did it in the Ballroom with the Candlestick. 7/16/2008 10:16:27 PM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
its just that wral comments section is going batshit over the warrant to search the home and warrant for brad to give up dna and for cary pd wrapping the home in crime scene tape.
I don't really find any of that to be all that sensational, to me it just seems like normal shit they (CPD) would do in a murder investigation. Of course the husband is gonna get looked at, hell, that's probably number 1 in the cop's playbook. after he's cleared then they go out and look for other people.
that's they way I understand it anyways. 7/16/2008 10:24:15 PM |
crpelliz All American 1432 Posts user info edit post |
hehe.. ah well, like everyone else, though, i want this resolved ASAP. and fwiw, i think those commenting on WRAL's stories are the worst. "batshit crazy" is an understatement 7/16/2008 10:25:21 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
yeah
they (cops) have stated that over and over on the news. they need to rule him out and that's what they're trying to do.
whether it's true he's or not.. well, only they know
[Edited on July 16, 2008 at 10:26 PM. Reason : asdf] 7/16/2008 10:25:33 PM |
crpelliz All American 1432 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't really find any of that to be all that sensational, to me it just seems like normal shit they (CPD) would do in a murder investigation. Of course the husband is gonna get looked at, hell, that's probably number 1 in the cop's playbook. after he's cleared then they go out and look for other people. " |
amen7/16/2008 10:28:18 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
raiden is right.
its a fact that every law enforcement agency knows, from the FBI on down .... the most likely perpetrator in a suspicious death is a friend or family member.
it might as well be a law, because it's been tried and true ever since there was law enforcement to keep track of it.
it's the way the world is, and you'd be a fool to bet against it.
[Edited on July 16, 2008 at 10:44 PM. Reason : ] 7/16/2008 10:43:45 PM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
try tellin that to wral comments. hell they already got him in the gas chamber. lol. 7/16/2008 10:49:10 PM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
press conference this morning at 9am. wonder what they're gonna say. 7/17/2008 7:11:27 AM |
LaserSoup All American 5503 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "press conference this morning at 9am. wonder what they're gonna say." |
Probably not much more than yesterday.7/17/2008 7:31:22 AM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
probably 7/17/2008 7:33:00 AM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
they're asking questions of her family
this shit is going to turn into a circus 7/17/2008 9:04:05 AM |
DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
I love the Cary Police. They probably pulled out their old textbooks for this one. 7/17/2008 9:07:20 AM |
buttseks Suspended 1227 Posts user info edit post |
O.J. did it, case closed 7/17/2008 9:12:45 AM |
LaserSoup All American 5503 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I love the Cary Police. They probably pulled out their old textbooks for this one." |
By textbooks do you mean back issues of Martha Stewart Living.7/17/2008 9:20:33 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Well, the Cary Police Department certainly won't be able to claim any shit like low salaries--they're very well compensated there. And I wonder about the politics in Cary--I mean, something weird happened with the former police chief just a few months ago. . .
Cary Police Chief Discusses Sudden Departure
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2170476/
I hope this doesn't turn out like the Boulder Police Department and the JonBenet Ramsey case.
Quote : | "because what freaks me out, is random violence where a jogger gets plucked off the road and killed for no reason. And it has nothing to do with white or black. (But just for the record, random serial murderers are overwhelmingly white.)" |
joe_schmoe
The police have already said that this was NOT a random act of violence.
[Edited on July 17, 2008 at 9:26 AM. Reason : .]7/17/2008 9:23:30 AM |
ScubaSteve All American 5523 Posts user info edit post |
ok does the 9 am news conference have a purpose other than to be a memorial for the wife?
or just for dragging her family through the media wringer.
a question at the news conference: Did she ever call and tell you about southern sweet tea
[Edited on July 17, 2008 at 9:31 AM. Reason : .] 7/17/2008 9:29:50 AM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
wtf reporters?, they're asking about sweet tea and BBQ to the family? 7/17/2008 9:30:50 AM |
YOMAMA Suspended 6218 Posts user info edit post |
They said they were not answering any questions today from the press. 7/17/2008 9:31:41 AM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
they're answering ?'s about sweet tea, BBQ and baseball games. OH and how if canada views this incident as making america a dangerous place to live. 7/17/2008 9:33:24 AM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
this must be really awkward for brad, especially if he didn't do it. imagine it. because just as many of us here and the crazies on the wral board have thought it i'm sure many of their neighborhood "friends" have thought the same. I guess its in times like these you learn who your true friends are and hopefully you don't ruin that by being a murdering husband. 7/17/2008 9:35:35 AM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
true. I did miss the first 30mins of the press conference, did they reveal anything other than her parents like sweet tea and NC BBQ? 7/17/2008 9:41:02 AM |