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11/12/2008 5:57:18 PM

TKE-Teg
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By and large Fox News has the hottest female personalities on TV (out of the news channels).

Megyn Kelly

11/12/2008 5:59:52 PM

hooksaw
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Bill O'Reilly pwns the shit out of Marvin Kalb, noted left-winger and profesor emeritus at Harvard:

http://msunderestimated.com/2008/11/12/oreilly-spars-with-marvin-kalb-video/



[Edited on November 13, 2008 at 8:14 AM. Reason : PS: ]

11/13/2008 8:12:47 AM

WillemJoel
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I fail to see the pwn. Both sides are just pandering to their respective sides. Like children. It's adorable. Certainly no fucking pwning going on.

11/13/2008 8:56:30 AM

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^^ Did you link to the wrong clip? I don't see much of anything on any side. I see O'Reilly making up a lot of excuses for everything he is asked. I think you must have just read the transcript surrounding the video without actually watching it.

Thanks for wasting 6 minutes of my life you jerk.

11/13/2008 9:16:01 AM

WillemJoel
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hell, I was just talking about the transcript.

11/13/2008 9:20:32 AM

TKE-Teg
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^is that the interview he had on two nights ago? I think he said that guy is one of his former professors, is that correct?

11/13/2008 9:27:52 AM

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^ Yes.

And for the far-left doofuses here, Professor Kalb sent O'Reilly a note saying that O'Reilly had won the debate. So, I invite you to piss off at this time.

11/13/2008 10:57:01 AM

joe_schmoe
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no one has said that Bill O isnt a good debater. ESPECIALLY on his own show, with his own producers.

but still, i fail to see the pwn.

if Bill O did better, it was only by a matter of degree.

11/13/2008 3:42:44 PM

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^ Look, I'm not even a huge O'Reilly fan--he's so arrogant sometimes that I can't even stand him. I mostly watch Special Report with Brit Hume.

But Kalb invited O'Reilly to appear on PBS, and as a former student of Kalb's, O'reilly obliged. Kalb got his clocked cleaned, which he admitted. It's really rather straightforward.

11/13/2008 4:04:15 PM

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I think you need to view the clip before you claim any clock cleanage. The only real contentious point was there at the end about the President not fighting, and that was nothing more than smug ole Bill thinking he won a point when he really didn't. Kalb pretty much had him destroyed up until that point.

11/13/2008 4:07:29 PM

joe_schmoe
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yeah, im just not seeing any cleanage of clocks.

sorry

11/13/2008 4:09:07 PM

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"And for the far-left doofuses here, Professor Kalb sent O'Reilly a note saying that O'Reilly had won the debate. So, I invite you to piss off at this time. "


Did you once in the clip hear the audience erupt in applause for Kalb? Of course you didn't.

11/13/2008 4:14:37 PM

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because a well known tv personality has more fans than a little known college professor?

well, that changes everything.

OREILLY CLEAND KALB"S CLOCK!!!!1

11/13/2008 4:25:14 PM

hooksaw
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^ Are you stupid? You don't even realize who Kalb is, do you?

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"Kalb spent 30 years as an award-winning reporter for CBS and NBC News. Kalb was the last newsman recruited by Murrow to join CBS News, becoming part of the later generation of the 'Murrow's Boys.' His work at CBS landed him on the Nixon administration's 'enemies list' (master list of Nixon political opponents). At NBC, he served as chief Diplomatic Correspondent and host of Meet the Press. During many years of Kalb's tenures at CBS and NBC, his brother Bernard worked alongside him.

Kalb has authored or coauthored nine nonfiction books (Eastern Exposure, Dragon in the Kremlin, The Volga, Roots of Involvement, Kissinger, Campaign '88, The Nixon Memo, and One Scandalous Story) and two best-selling novels (In the National Interest and The Last Ambassador). His most recent book is The Media and the War on Terrorism."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Kalb

The Kalb Report

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"The Kalb Report, moderated by distinguished journalist and scholar Marvin Kalb, is an award-winning series that offers one-on-one conversations and panel discussions on topics at the intersection of press, politics and public policy. Now in its 15th season, the 2008-2009 series focuses on democracy and the press."


http://www.gwu.edu/~kalb/

The Kalb Report doesn't appear on PBS in North Carolina, though.

http://www.gwu.edu/~kalb/broadcast.html

[Edited on November 13, 2008 at 5:18 PM. Reason : PS: ]

11/13/2008 4:58:59 PM

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I've never heard of Kalb, but I can't see how you think O'Reilly won. Neither one of them did anything spectacular there.

O'Reilly was doing his usual shtick of saying things confidently that aren't true or are only half true, and Kalb didn't call him on it. I guess if you didn't realize O'Reilly was lying though, you'd think he "won" the debate.

ANd O'Reilly in that clip didn't get any applause either. He got some laughs and Kalb got some laughs.

I guess that's one of the reasons people like Fox News commentary though, they say things loud and confidently, and the other just kind of stares blankly at the absurdity, but rarely tries to correct. This is one of those things where you have to fight fire with fire, I think.

[Edited on November 13, 2008 at 5:11 PM. Reason : ]

11/13/2008 5:10:47 PM

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His show doesn't even appear in 18 states. Look, no one has heard of Marvin Kalb. No one.

11/13/2008 5:11:36 PM

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^^^ You should be able to see how--because Kalb admitted it. Just take the ideological blinders off--all will be revealed.

And GG to the three of you--you've admitted how ill-informed you are. You don't even know who Marvin Kalb is--he's a high-profile Harvard professor emeritus, best-selling author, current television host, and news reporter with over 30 years on the air at CBS and NBC.

Sweet Jesus.

[Edited on November 13, 2008 at 5:28 PM. Reason : ^ Stated another way, Kalb's program appears in 38 states. That's not bad for PBS. ]

11/13/2008 5:23:41 PM

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^ where did Kalb admit this? Does he have a blog or something, because I don't read it.

I rarely watch TV news, and you already said his show doesn't come on in NC. So how exactly am I suppose to hear about him? If I read every book by harvard professors, I wouldn't have any time to post on TWW>

[Edited on November 13, 2008 at 5:29 PM. Reason : ]

11/13/2008 5:28:00 PM

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"And for the far-left doofuses here, Professor Kalb sent O'Reilly a note saying that O'Reilly had won the debate."


Personal notes are often not immediately available to the public. I suppose you'll accuse O'Reilly of lying now--just STFU.

11/13/2008 5:30:14 PM

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^ haha, O'Reilly has been known to blatantly lie, on several occasions. Do you dispute this?

I'm not saying he's lying about the Kalb letter, because that's not his style. It's easily possible though he's embellishing what it says, or equivocating what it says (although i'm not saying this is what he's doing either). I just haven't seen the letter, and I frankly wouldn't just take your word that it exists.

[Edited on November 13, 2008 at 5:32 PM. Reason : ]

11/13/2008 5:31:23 PM

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hooksaw, why are you even gloating about this? it makes you look petty. who even cares if bill o'reilly "won" a debate against a left-winger?

11/13/2008 5:48:51 PM

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"[Edited on November 13, 2008 at 5:28 PM. Reason : ^ Stated another way, Kalb's program appears in 38 states. That's not bad for PBS. "


How many states does Ole Loudmouth Bill appear in? 50? Does Kalb get the 2 million viewers a night that Oreilley does?

11/13/2008 6:13:52 PM

WillemJoel
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hahahha so you're saying the guy slid him a love letter congratulating his win at his expense, and can't produce any evidence of it, yet you're telling us to STFU.

I did, in fact, laff.

11/14/2008 8:58:29 AM

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HOOKSAW loses.

hahahha...

11/14/2008 10:26:53 AM

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i, too, enjoy fox news

11/17/2008 10:11:17 AM

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I ENJOY MEGYN KELLY

ESPECIALLY AFTER THAT FIERY EXCHANGE SHE JUST HAD WITH THE GUY WHO WANTS TO BAN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

11/17/2008 10:23:44 AM

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"And for the far-left doofuses here, Professor Kalb sent O'Reilly a note saying that O'Reilly had won the debate. So, I invite you to piss off at this time.

I suppose you'll accuse O'Reilly of lying now--just STFU."


Yes hooksaw, the media and the TWW by-and-large is biased to the left. In general, I know I'm a center-left thinking guy too. In fact, I've tried to make it a habit to research typical conservative positions on all political topics to account for said bias. And yes, the media on average does NOT self-correct itself in the same way. Hence the popularity of Fox News, which capitalizes on frustrated right and center-right audiences as well as frustrated moderates and even liberals whom are interested in seeing "the other side of the coin." So yes, liberal bias in news is, to one extent or another, an issue that should be dealt with...


But for fuck sake can you PLEASE make your damn case using something other than an unsourced "admission of defeat" by the opposing side? While you're at it could you also please explain to why we "far-left doofuses" should be belittled for not accepting your unsubstantiated claim to victory? B/c that'd go a long way towards explaining why you're shocked that the rest of us called "bullshit" on it.

11/17/2008 12:41:01 PM

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"By and large Fox News has the hottest female personalities on TV (out of the news channels).

Megyn Kelly "


While Fox news does have a deep bench, CNN posts the heaviest hitter in today's market. You can't touch Robin Meade. MSNBC really needs to step up to the plate. Amy Robach had a few good seasons but they need some fresh talent.

11/17/2008 5:26:15 PM

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straight females

11/17/2008 6:00:06 PM

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"You can't touch Robin Meade."


she is so fucking stupid that she actually loses points

11/17/2008 9:34:06 PM

joe_schmoe
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Rachel Maddow is the hottest, hands down.




well, you know, if she'd grow her hair out a bit..... and wasn't quite so gay

11/18/2008 2:11:11 PM

TKEshultz
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dude she definitely has a cock between her legs

11/18/2008 3:04:55 PM

joe_schmoe
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come on now.

it's just a really enlarged clitoris.

11/18/2008 7:45:33 PM

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Fox news is hilarious, it never fails to be a good source of entertainment.

11/19/2008 5:53:29 PM

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maybe this has already been discussed

but is Sean Hannity literally insane?

i switched on H&C tonight and that motherfucker is calling this economic crisis the "obama recession"

his contention is that the economy began to tank when 2 months ago b/c it became clear obama would win. and he was deadly serious.

[Edited on November 20, 2008 at 9:39 PM. Reason : .]

11/20/2008 9:38:58 PM

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Yeah, I think it was started by Limbaugh. Apparently the economy behaves like a mood ring.

11/20/2008 11:03:04 PM

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Treasury Sued By FOX Business Network Over Rescue Plan Info

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"WASHINGTON -(Dow Jones)- FOX Business Network said Thursday it has filed a lawsuit against the U.S. Treasury Department for being slow to provide information on the $700 billion financial rescue plan.

The television network, a unit of News Corp. (NWSA), said in a release that Treasury has not responded to two Freedom of Information Act requests, one on Nov. 25 and one on Dec. 1, regarding the use of funds for Citigroup Inc. (C), American International Group Inc. (AIG) and Bank of New York Mellon. The request sought data on the specific restrictions placed on the firms and the collateral extended as part of their acceptance of federal funds, among other things.

A lawyer for the network said that 'it has become apparent that the Treasury will not cooperate without mounting legal pressure.'

The complaint was filed in federal court in New York.

A Treasury spokeswoman was not immediately available for comment.

Federal policymakers have come under increasing pressure to provide more information about their efforts to stabilize the financial system and deal with the stumbling economy. A Government Accountability Office report released earlier this month criticized Treasury for not addressing a number of issues surrounding the implementation of the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program."


http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200812181548DOWJONESDJONLINE000946_FORTUNE5.htm

Far-left moonbats: "FAUX NEWS!!!1" "WHITE HOUSE TALKING POINTS!!!1" "BLAH, BLATHER, SPITTLE!!!1"

STFU.

12/23/2008 10:28:38 AM

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nice

it is good to see the media doing its job rather than filling time with stories about caylee anthony and the current celebrities

12/23/2008 10:44:51 AM

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"but is Sean Hannity literally insane?

i switched on H&C tonight and that motherfucker is calling this economic crisis the "obama recession"

his contention is that the economy began to tank when 2 months ago b/c it became clear obama would win. and he was deadly serious. "


I don't mind listening to a good conservative opinion, truly, but yeah this kinda shit is why I can't stand watching Fox News. Watching it makes me feel like I'm somehow absorbing the kool-aid through the TV instead of simply drinking it.

1/1/2009 11:49:50 PM

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"the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program."



IT'S A TARP!!!!!1

1/2/2009 6:07:02 PM

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^^yes. read even a remote history about Sean Hannity's life and subsequent relationships and various involvements. motherfucker has LONG been out of his fucking mind, regardless of party affiliation.

1/5/2009 10:42:08 PM

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You need to do research to realize that Sean Hannity is a nutjob?

[Edited on January 8, 2009 at 5:44 AM. Reason : post 1 of 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42]

1/8/2009 5:41:22 AM

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personally I think it's unfair to judge someone solely based on their TV personality.

that said, look into the fucker. fucking low-life.

1/8/2009 8:54:32 AM

joe_schmoe
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^^ dude.... i thought you were dead

1/8/2009 10:54:38 AM

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^^ I almost missed this--you been reading the HuffPo again? And would you please post a link to all this valuable Hannity-related information?

Many of you miss the point about Hannity/O'Reilly/Limbaugh et al--and I'm not a big fan of any of them as individuals. I actually listen to The Diane Rehm Show and watch Special Report with Brit Hume Bret Baier much more often--but this doesn't fit with the caricature of me that some here have created.

In any event, what some of you continually fail to understand is that for many it's not about the individual broadcasters or their foibles. It's about issues--often legitimate issues--that are raised through these outlets that are overlooked for whatever reason by the mainstream media.

If Hannity has associated (guilt by association?) someone that is objectionable, he should just say he was some guy around the neighborhood. It worked for Obama.

1/10/2009 6:51:08 PM

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^ what legitimate issues have they looked in to that the "mainstream media" has ignored?

1/10/2009 6:59:11 PM

hooksaw
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^ Do your own research.

1/10/2009 7:04:45 PM

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^ i'm not asking for research.

You made the statement, I just figured you had some examples in mind.

But it looks like you were just talking out of your ass.

1/10/2009 7:08:39 PM

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look moron, he has a simple request: just go back and listen to the last years worth of O'Reilly and Hannity, write down every issue they talk about, then on each issue, do research into whether the other networks covered it, and to what extent.
Come on, it can't get much easier than that.

1/10/2009 7:12:18 PM

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