and someone else thinks ACORN can do no wrong and never has, and that all the programs like ACORN that have good intentions on the surface will work and have worked

you think you're so smart about all subjects nutsmackr...lets see if you can make your point without trolling with personal attacks throughout the entire rest of the thread...that shouldnt be so hard for someone like you who is a self claimed expert in everything, should it?

10/15/2008 2:00:27 PM

^ who thinks that? no one i've seen in this thread.

10/15/2008 2:01:35 PM

Does anyone think Acorn's employees who turned in fake registration cards is going to affect the outcome of this election? Or do you actually think these fictional people they made up are going to end up apprearing at the polls to vote?



I'll show you the type of shit that is much more likely to affect the "outcome" of the election

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081011/D93NV52O0.html

people calling Obama Osama on the actual ballot

[Edited on October 15, 2008 at 2:04 PM. Reason : ]

10/15/2008 2:03:51 PM

terpball do you think Florida was fairly decided in the 2000 Bush/Gore election?

10/15/2008 2:04:46 PM

Treetwista, no, but I know that was a problem with VOTING, not VOTER REGISTRATION

10/15/2008 2:05:29 PM

Terp have you heard of absentee ballots?

However, it was dems that pushed to not require ID while voting. Oh and the ACLU... gotta give them credit too.

[Edited on October 15, 2008 at 2:08 PM. Reason : .]

10/15/2008 2:05:46 PM

Twista, you can be extremely obtuse at times.

10/15/2008 2:11:32 PM

oh well, looks like the dems are gonna steal this election. Obama needs ACORN so bad, being 14 points up in the latest CBS WSJ national poll and all

10/15/2008 2:11:40 PM

republicans are building up this excuse, just like the blame Perot for 92 and 96. they cannot accept a democrat being a legitimately elected president

10/15/2008 2:13:26 PM

I agree I dont think he needs the fraud to win. However its the general attitude of this fraud by his supporters that is scary.

10/15/2008 2:22:21 PM

1. It isn't voter fraud

2. it's voter registration fraud

3. ACORN is legally obligated to turn in the complete voter registration forms, no matter what

4. ACORN marks the registrations that are invalid and lets the BOEs know about

5. You are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

10/15/2008 2:24:02 PM

Quote :

"However its the general attitude of this fraud by his supporters that is scary."

huh?

I'm sure some of them support Obama, but they are employees, they are being paid. They aren't volunteers doing it because they love Obama.

10/15/2008 2:28:38 PM

Quote :

"I'll show you the type of shit that is much more likely to affect the "outcome" of the election http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081011/D93NV52O0.html people calling Obama Osama on the actual ballot "

A typo in a few hundred ballots will affect the outcome?

10/15/2008 2:29:09 PM

^ Do you not remember Florida

10/15/2008 2:32:39 PM

haha, I doubt New York will come down to a few hundred votes.

10/15/2008 2:47:06 PM

^ Hah, another case of your poor reading comprehension. I typed this TYPE of shit.

TYPE of shit

Do you understand now?

10/15/2008 3:18:37 PM

ah, lawyer talk. got it.

10/15/2008 3:19:45 PM

nm

[Edited on October 15, 2008 at 3:23 PM. Reason : ]

10/15/2008 3:23:15 PM

Quote :

"ah, lawyer talk. got it. "

You call it lawyer talk -- I call it common sense - Knowing how to read - Not being a complete idiot.

10/15/2008 3:24:51 PM

got it hoss. Thanks

10/15/2008 3:27:25 PM

Quote :

"someone doesn't get the point either."

nutsuckr von nusssauger

Everyone gets your trinket of a "point." And you are an admitted liar and a fascist dicktaster--these are the accusations, at least.

Once again, the glaring difference in your libelous posts and the allegations against ACORN is evidence. But I wouldn't expect a far-left moonbat troll like you--or your cohorts, for that matter--to comprehend this straightforward point.

[Edited on October 15, 2008 at 4:10 PM. Reason : PS: (The Dreaded Double-Rolly!) ]

10/15/2008 4:09:10 PM

So wait, Obama is, or is NOT a muslim?

10/15/2008 4:23:40 PM

10/15/2008 4:33:57 PM

I'm a fascist now? Who knew liberals were fascist.



Did it take you awhile to find a boy to molest today, hooksaw?

10/15/2008 4:56:42 PM

I think nutsmacker is late for his daily viewing of the daily show or Oprah.

10/15/2008 5:21:07 PM

i think he has alot on his mind that hes trying to release

10/15/2008 7:38:54 PM

Grasping at straws again are we?

This is another Republican non-issue.

Admit it... Palin is dumb and dangerous and McCain is really old.

Bad combination.

10/15/2008 7:41:10 PM

im just trying to say that obama is soon to DOMINATE this debate

10/15/2008 7:41:50 PM

^^ Just for you:

Joe "Plugs" Biden (aka "Ch-Ch-Ch-Chia")--The Human Gaffe Machine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VAzOIT4Ef8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYW5OQO5ZDQ

Joe "Plugs" on Indians

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIT3jUrNTX0

Joe "Plugs" on Obama and McCain

Quote :

"I think [Obama] can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training."

Quote :

"I think that I stand by the statement."

Quote :

"I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV14xqelWxY

Quote :

"'We should all be proud of Governor Sarah Palin's historic nomination, and I congratulate her and Senator McCain. . . .'"

--Hillary Clinton

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/29/clinton-congratulates-palin/

Sweet Jesus--and this is your VP pick? I'll go down swinging, if necessary, with Palin, thanks--and don't get me started on Obama.

10/15/2008 8:24:21 PM

It's good to see that Republicans are already making up excused for why they lost the election.

10/15/2008 8:25:32 PM

^ Um. . .are you addressing me?

10/15/2008 8:26:22 PM

obama has bamboozled the american public

that will be the excuse (actual reason) when obama wins

10/15/2008 8:30:25 PM

^^^^

What? Thanks for the spam, but your team is going to lose.

Quote :

"Soon after Sarah Palin was elected mayor of the foothill town of Wasilla, Alaska, she startled a local music teacher by insisting in casual conversation that men and dinosaurs coexisted on an Earth created 6,000 years ago -- about 65 million years after scientists say most dinosaurs became extinct -- the teacher said. Palin told him that "dinosaurs and humans walked the Earth at the same time," Munger said. When he asked her about prehistoric fossils and tracks dating back millions of years, Palin said "she had seen pictures of human footprints inside the tracks," recalled Munger, who teaches music at the University of Alaska in Anchorage and has regularly criticized Palin in recent years on his liberal political blog, called Progressive Alaska. The idea of a "young Earth" -- that God created the Earth about 6,000 years ago, and dinosaurs and humans coexisted early on -- is a popular strain of creationism."

She's fucking insane... and dangerous.

[Edited on October 15, 2008 at 8:42 PM. Reason : -]

10/15/2008 8:35:07 PM

^ Oh, it's definitely not spam. It's a bunch of fucked up shit about Biden that you and your cohorts have conveniently chosen to ignore--not to mention his plagiarism and multiple brain surgeries some years back.

If you'd been paying attention, you'd have noticed I've posted here on numerous occasions that Obama will more than likely win. But if he does, you should note well that it wasn't because national Democrats are so good or so correct in their positions (but Obama is charismatic and obviously quite comfortable in his own skin). It's more that the Republican brand has been damaged by some boneheaded moves over the last eight years.

10/15/2008 8:45:20 PM

I'm a fiscal conservative that voted for Bush in 2000. You clearly don't know anything about me. As for Biden, he's famous for speaking his mind honestly which is why he's such a great VP pick.

10/15/2008 8:50:06 PM

^ Never said I knew you--and this is what Biden's infamous for. . .

10/15/2008 8:56:21 PM

Don't label me as an Obama supporter, label me as an angry fiscal conservative.

10/15/2008 8:59:25 PM

lets take a look at Biden...from TWW's point of view...from 18 months ago

message_topic.aspx?topic=459056

10/15/2008 9:01:54 PM

aha, so you are going to show your fiscal conservative anger by voting for a guy that is even less fiscally conservative than Dubya(which is pretty hard to do btw)?

10/15/2008 9:03:06 PM

George W. Bush is the biggest fiscal liberal that has been in office in my lifetime.

The ignorance in this thread is stupefying.

[Edited on October 15, 2008 at 9:07 PM. Reason : -]

10/15/2008 9:06:27 PM

that's my point. Obama is going to more fiscally liberal than dubya ever was. How, exactly, are you going to express your fiscal outrage by voting for something less fiscally conservative than that by which you claim to be outraged?

10/15/2008 9:09:42 PM

PWN!

10/15/2008 11:29:13 PM

Also Wednesday, the Ohio Republican Party said it has filed public records requests with all 88 counties for copies of forms submitted by newly registered voters, especially those who registered and cast an absentee ballot on the same day during a one-week window earlier this month.

Brunner has said that 13,141 Ohioans registered and voted immediately during the window.

"We've seen reports of fraudulent registrations, and we want to see those forms first-hand," said Jason Mauk, the state GOP's executive director.



Nice work GOP.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93R8IE00&show_article=1

10/15/2008 11:32:25 PM

IT'S THOSE DAMNED REPUBLICANS SUPPRESSING VOTERS AGAIN! HOW DARE THEY DEMAND THAT PEOPLE WHO NO LONGER LIVE IN A HOUSE THAT WAS FORECLOSED NOT BE ALLOWED TO VOTE IN THE PRECINCT FOR THAT HOUSE!!! HOW DARE THEY DEMAND THAT WE MAKE SURE PEOPLE DIDN'T REGISTER, VOTE, AND RUN!!!

10/15/2008 11:36:21 PM

you know you have lost when you start to resort to nicknames that you have made up.

10/15/2008 11:48:14 PM

Ohio Sec. State Asks Supreme Court To Step In On Verification Battle

Quote :

"Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner [D] has filed an appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court, asking for intervention into the state's dispute over voter eligibility verification, the AP reports. The 6th U.S. Court of Appeals earlier this week ordered Brunner's office to establish a system of verification that would match driver's license numbers or Social Security numbers with new voter applications, something the state Republican Party had asked for [BECAUSE IT'S THE LAW!]. Over 650,000 new registrations have been turned into the state since January and Brunner's office say about 200,000 of them have mismatched data. But Brunner says there are multiple reasons why applications may be mismatched and said that a new process of verification could lead to disenfranchising voters. 'If the Sixth Circuit's decision is allowed to stand, an untold number of legitimate voters in Ohio will be forced to re-establish the bona fides of their vote before the county boards of elections, or they will stay home out of frustration or confusion,' Brunner wrote in her appeal. Meanwhile, the AP also reports that the FBI is investigating ACORN's role in voter registration fraud complaints in states across the nation. A law enforcement source told the wire service that the FBI is looking through the results of several raids on ACORN offices in various states to find out if there has been a 'coordinated national scam.'"

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10/16/politics/horserace/entry4526500.shtml

Now this fiasco appears to have moved beyond voter registration fraud into actual voter fraud:

Palestra.net Finds Evidence of Voter Fraud in Ohio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2onRgtgXkc

10/17/2008 1:50:17 AM

A comrade who worked with ACORN thinks the organization implicitly encouraged fraud in order to raise money. I know they told me they got five bucks for each completed voter registration form. If this money came from the government, that would explain the focus on meeting quota.

10/17/2008 1:54:59 AM

For those who didn't watch the video above, some college students have apparently been bragging about their voter fraud.

10/17/2008 1:58:33 AM

Meh, I'm not too impressed by that example. If the dude studying in Oxford is American, he's entitled to vote somewhere. Unless he's voting multiple times, what's the big deal?

Also, was this group connected to ACORN? If so, I missed that.

10/17/2008 2:59:07 AM

Quote :

"that's my point. Obama is going to more fiscally liberal than dubya ever was. How, exactly, are you going to express your fiscal outrage by voting for something less fiscally conservative than that by which you claim to be outraged?"

Simply because I'm not insane. Only an insane person would repeat the same steps and expect a different conclusion when nothing suggests otherwise.

It would be insane to support the same party that claimed to be fiscally conservative when in fact they were the exact opposite on a massive scale.

My vote is a protest vote.

10/17/2008 11:16:47 AM