elise mainly potato 13090 Posts user info edit post |
played tonight for the first time in over a year. man, i fucking suck.
peglegprincess if anyone wants to add a loser to their friend list. 4/26/2012 11:45:57 PM |
Krallum 56A0D3 15294 Posts user info edit post |
Man fuck. Its like if you buy an IP boost they intentionally put you on terrible teams. My recent history was ALL victories, i buy IP boost i lose two of the worst games i've played in months.
My name on there is Akrallum, some doucheshit took Krallum.
I'm Krallum and I approved this message./] 4/26/2012 11:47:02 PM |
elise mainly potato 13090 Posts user info edit post |
friend request accepted! 4/26/2012 11:52:37 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
<--- lobsterzilla
I was tricked by the extra g
] 4/26/2012 11:54:49 PM |
elise mainly potato 13090 Posts user info edit post |
there is no extra g! peg leg as in pirate. pirate princess. 4/27/2012 12:00:02 AM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
I read it as peggle princess :x 4/27/2012 12:01:36 AM |
grimx #maketwwgreatagain 32337 Posts user info edit post |
i will add some of you later 4/27/2012 9:17:39 AM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
I downloaded this game because it seemed interesting from watching a stream or two.
It seems pretty overwhelming to learn all the lingo and mechanics; especially considering the number of heroes and all of the different items you can get. 4/27/2012 10:02:11 AM |
Krallum 56A0D3 15294 Posts user info edit post |
pick a ranged carry, google a guide on solomid or mobafire (make sure its not years old since they patch and change stuff) and just play computer games for a bit. Thats what I did
I'm Krallum and I approved this message. 4/27/2012 10:07:46 AM |
grimx #maketwwgreatagain 32337 Posts user info edit post |
also play the tutorial. i think they give you 400 riot points for completing it nowadays and that is helpful to get at least one champion 4/27/2012 10:29:52 AM |
Krallum 56A0D3 15294 Posts user info edit post |
Basically do whatever you have to, to not die. Don't auto attack minions early on (click a bunch to move around then try and click when their health is low to get dat CS $$$ dolla golds) and try to let them push and fight near your turret if you are bad.
I'm Krallum and I approved this message./] 4/27/2012 10:34:27 AM |
Nashattack All American 7022 Posts user info edit post |
they've nerfed jungling so much that i recommend new players try jungling since its mainly PvE and you can choose when to engage.
low levels, hardly anyone jungles, so you'll give your team a huge advantage if your top lane doesn't suicide all day long. 4/27/2012 10:44:37 AM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
haha
jungling? I gather this is pretty much being in the non-lane areas trying to get your team bonuses by killing creeps and trying to gank enemy lane pushers? push? i assume you push lanes, like push a tower? cs? no clue you have to acquire champions? you cant just pick whatever one you want from the start? ranged carry? anywhere a list of the 'jobs' that champions do?
To be fair Ive not put a lot of time researching but I did try going through their intro tutorial area on the site but they dont really explain much of the lingo or the dynamics of how champions work together. 4/27/2012 11:01:45 AM |
grimx #maketwwgreatagain 32337 Posts user info edit post |
a quick breakdown.
10 champions are "free" every week, you have to purchase champions via riot points or influence points. influence points are gained by playing games, riot points are purchased with real money.
the 10 champions available rotate weekly.
you have the three basic lanes, top, middle and bottom. typically 1 person in each top and middle, and 2 people bottom. the 5th person jungles, killing the monsters and getting the blue and red buff. the blue buff restores mana faster and provides cooldown reduction, the red buff places a dot on the target hit and snares them for a short duration.
pushing is when one team overextends in their lane, typically you sit at the midway point where the minions clash, when one team overextends you're set up to be ganked. by allowing the enemy team to push it is also referred to as baiting the enemy team.
cs is your creep score, or last hits, you only make gold when you get the killing blow on the minion waves, the higher the cs the higher your money in the game.
ad vs ap - attack damage and ability power. fighter or caster. can further be broken down into bruisers, tanks, pushers, etc. but this is the basic of basics.
when you go to your profile and choose the champion tab it will list a tag of what the champion is categorized as, ranged AD carries usually consist of tristana and ashe (they are easier to purchase and come across)
[Edited on April 27, 2012 at 11:30 AM. Reason : some more clarify] 4/27/2012 11:17:29 AM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
no really lokken ... go to solomid.net and go to the guides section. There are champion specific guides as well as general game play guides. Look for the "featured" guides as they're submitted by the best players and contain the most accurate information most of the time.
just sit in the gameplay section for an hour or so and look through the different things they say to do, it wont take long to get the basics down.
http://solomid.net/guides.php?champ=generic
http://solomid.net/guides.php?g=19081
http://solomid.net/guides.php?g=4307
] 4/27/2012 4:03:33 PM |
grimx #maketwwgreatagain 32337 Posts user info edit post |
ok, added some of you people 4/27/2012 4:36:45 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
svrs is ? lokken ? 4/27/2012 5:17:14 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ sweet! thanks!
I haven't added anyone. Still reading. 4/27/2012 6:02:05 PM |
slamjamason All American 1833 Posts user info edit post |
<-- svrs
Just had my team surrender 4-1 and we're ahead gold, and none of our level 2 towers had fallen.
Sometimes I just have to 4/27/2012 8:05:59 PM |
elise mainly potato 13090 Posts user info edit post |
I think ima go upstairs and play against some bots. 4/27/2012 9:32:13 PM |
Nashattack All American 7022 Posts user info edit post |
played a 4/0/38 alistar game last night
i was soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo huge. i sat there and let a vlad pound away on me while I solo'd dragon (I did shit dmg so it took forever) and then my veigar came in and 2 shot him after a minute of beating me up. i walked away with 1/2 health. 4/28/2012 9:49:48 AM |
elise mainly potato 13090 Posts user info edit post |
My nerdy gaming friends, I need a passable headset until I can buy a really good one. I prefer the big noise cancelling ones that cover your whole ear, especially since I have a bunch of odd ear piercings. Would like to spend <40 bucks. Any ideas? 4/28/2012 2:45:33 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
im gonna start playing this my friend pursuaded me to get into it
details comin soon 4/28/2012 4:18:05 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
they "passable" range of over ear headsets start in the 60-70 range. And are almost as good as the "really good ones" in the 130-140 range.
would be better to just use speakers and a desk mic until you can get a 60-70 dollar headset
I have
http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/productID.169415800 (can get it cheaper elsewhere)
awesome headset I love it.
another option would be
http://steelseries.com/products/audio/steelseries-siberia-v2
http://www.turtlebeach.com/products/pc-gaming-headsets/ear-force-z2.aspx
although I suppose
http://www.turtlebeach.com/products/pc-gaming-headsets/ear-force-z11.aspx
would be in your pricerange, but it's kinda shit. the mic has a tendency to break if moved around to much.
] 4/28/2012 5:58:18 PM |
Krallum 56A0D3 15294 Posts user info edit post |
Lets play a game in like 25-30 minutes
I'm Krallum and I approved this message. 4/28/2012 6:42:35 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
putting my vote in for the steelseries siberia v2
amazing headset 4/28/2012 8:22:08 PM |
CapnObvious All American 5057 Posts user info edit post |
Just played again after a while and man I'm a big bag of fail. Granted I'm still lvl 15 and keep getting in groups with lvl 20+ accounts.
I've been playing classes that poke the other enemy (Ashe, AP Twisted Fate), and it works really well for the early game. I'm usually fairly good at avoiding the gankers, but then there's always 1-2 on each team that exchange kills resulting in a few beastly characters. The failure tolerance there is 0 and so I'm just ducking in and out. Eventually I get to mid to later game with stats like 1-0-5 and then everything turns in to a giant death ball and I start constantly dying.
Not sure if I'm playing wrong or what. Guess it might be the team comps as well b/c I keep getting stuck with teams where we have 1 tank type and they have 2-3. Might try some other stuff, but I guess I'll see if there are videos to show me why I'm the badz0r. 4/28/2012 9:01:01 PM |
cain All American 7450 Posts user info edit post |
play TF as AS/AD. Stack procing items and push the attack speed to 2.5. You can almost always kill a solo carry with his ult at that point. Pull a gold card, hit ult, port in, stun and destory 4/28/2012 9:52:05 PM |
elise mainly potato 13090 Posts user info edit post |
2^sounds like me
Also, steel series looks pretty cool 4/28/2012 10:37:32 PM |
smcain All American 750 Posts user info edit post |
I've got the Turtle Beach Earforce X11's. I had a few other gaming headsets before that didn't fit my ears or head very well (damn you big headed big eared men). I haven't been too awesomely kind to it, and it has held up very well. Bonus if you play on the Xbox, the headset will work with it too.
I managed to get it at Target on Clearance - looks like the X12 is $60.. so might be out of your pirce range.
I agree that you should wait till you can afford that price range. Stuff below that price point just isn't as nice, or as comfortable. 4/28/2012 11:45:38 PM |
ghost613 Veteran 324 Posts user info edit post |
These will get you by, only 25 bucks and ive had good experiences with them so far http://www.walmart.com/ip/Plantronics-GameCom-367-Closed-Ear-Gaming-Headset/11050044
[Edited on April 29, 2012 at 5:49 PM. Reason : also add me: "suicidal ghost" im trying to play some more in the evenings] 4/29/2012 5:45:42 PM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
Okay I just started playing this... I've played a decent amount of SOTIS (dota clone inside starcraft 2) so I know the basics. So far I've played a few games vs the computer just to learn the characters. At what point should I move on to playing against other people? And what should I do as far as buying characters. I definitely don't want to spend real money. Is it better to save up my inspiration points or whatever and just buy one really good character, or buy a few smaller ones. Not sure if its balanced in tiers or if everyone is basically balanced.
If anyone wants to recommend a character feel free - I prefer ranged ganking types over carries.
Also my name is dzags if anyone wants to play. 4/29/2012 5:51:11 PM |
ghost613 Veteran 324 Posts user info edit post |
All the characters are supposed to be somewhat balanced so a more expensive character isnt necessarily better, try each of the free characters each week and when you find one that fits your play style, start saving. That being said, i would buy a 450 or 1350 champion or 2 just so you can get a consistent character to learn the basics with.
And do the tutorial game, it used to be worth like 400 ip or something.
Others here would probably be better at recommending characters to try than I but a good ranged ganker to try might be twitch
[Edited on April 29, 2012 at 6:29 PM. Reason : ] 4/29/2012 6:26:16 PM |
grimx #maketwwgreatagain 32337 Posts user info edit post |
its 400rp, which should unlock a champion that might be 3150ip 4/29/2012 6:39:18 PM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
And what about runes? Should I bother with those? 4/29/2012 7:42:57 PM |
grimx #maketwwgreatagain 32337 Posts user info edit post |
i don't think i worried about runes too much until i was in the 15+ level range. but its been awhile 4/29/2012 8:22:45 PM |
CapnObvious All American 5057 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "play TF as AS/AD. Stack procing items and push the attack speed to 2.5. You can almost always kill a solo carry with his ult at that point. Pull a gold card, hit ult, port in, stun and destory" |
I played before as TF AS/AD. It worked ok, but I couldn't help but feel that the build felt an awful lot like playing Ashe with a short duration stun as opposed to a constant slow. The Ultimates are completely different, though, but at the time I preferred Arrow over the reveal / teleport because it was so much easier to know when to use. I've gotten better at it, so maybe that's more viable at this point.
After a further day of thought, I've determined that my execution is decent (though could get much better), but the real issue is that the build is much better in an organized setting. Wild Cards are one of the best early game harass abilities due to their insane range so my lane opponent is often low on life early on. I call for the gank, but everyone is just content to just do their own thing, even the junglers (if there is one).4/29/2012 8:27:22 PM |
slamjamason All American 1833 Posts user info edit post |
Advice I've heard about runes, which I didn't follow but I kind of wish I had, are to get level 1 runes because they are so cheap, but then skip level 2 runes to save up for level 3.
Level 3s eat a lot of IP, especially when you decide you want to start mixing and matching different types. 4/29/2012 10:26:36 PM |
CapnObvious All American 5057 Posts user info edit post |
Ok, AS/AD TF feeling better this time around. Much better at ninja ganking. 4/29/2012 10:36:46 PM |
elise mainly potato 13090 Posts user info edit post |
playing the tutorial did not give me rp
also, grimx, don't you want to log in and spend my ip for me? I have been playing lots of gangplank lately.
[Edited on April 29, 2012 at 11:14 PM. Reason : .] 4/29/2012 11:13:16 PM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
So basically you start with 0 free heroes and you just use what they give you week to week till you can afford one? I know I can buy one now but I am not a big fan of the current ones I can afford. Should I just stick with the week to week guys? 4/29/2012 11:29:36 PM |
smcain All American 750 Posts user info edit post |
If you like them on Facebook, you can get Tristana.
If you do something with their Youtube channel, you can get Alistar.
Those are the only free champs you can get (as opposed to playing what's available every week) 4/29/2012 11:36:41 PM |
Krallum 56A0D3 15294 Posts user info edit post |
lol, i just did 400k damage in a 60 minute game
I'm Krallum and I approved this message.
[Edited on April 29, 2012 at 11:41 PM. Reason : farmed 25k LOL] 4/29/2012 11:40:56 PM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
How often do guys change prices? I've been having a blast with one dude but he costs 6k 4/30/2012 1:01:38 AM |
Krallum 56A0D3 15294 Posts user info edit post |
not alot
I'm Krallum and I approved this message. 4/30/2012 2:56:23 AM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ Yeah I got those yesterday. I had really enjoyed playing Grave... till I played Tristana. Holy shit is she fun. She works perfect for my playstyle. Just went 28-5, just against CPU's but still, best I've done so far. 4/30/2012 7:31:13 AM |
stevedude hello 4763 Posts user info edit post |
smurfing with ryze is fun! 4/30/2012 7:34:05 AM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
The general thought process with pricing is the more they cost, the more complicated they are to play. Thats not universal by anymeans but a general guide line. You can donkey stomp games with ryze and hes dirt cheap, etc.
Dont bother with runes till level 20. Id save ip for at least 1 full lev 3 rune page to start. Its going to take a dick ton of games to get champs and runes if youre going to forgo using rp all together. So prob pick a class type you like the best and stick wi that for a little while ( ad vs ap etc)
And is start playing against people now to get a feel for what the other characters do. Theres no real reason to play co-op or bot games except to learn ultra basics. If you already have an idea of what you need to do,, youre wasting time playing the computer ] 4/30/2012 7:55:33 AM |
Krallum 56A0D3 15294 Posts user info edit post |
i pretty much always play 1 or 2 co-op or bot games the first time i pick a new champion because you're gauranteed to win, it'll take 25 minutes tops and you wont get reported if you are suckin it up
I'm Krallum and I approved this message./] 4/30/2012 8:02:24 AM |
grimx #maketwwgreatagain 32337 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "also, grimx, don't you want to log in and spend my ip for me?" |
wait, wut?
Quote : | "If you do something with their Youtube channel, you can get Alistar." |
I think if you follow them on youtube you get the unchained alistar skin
Quote : | "How often do guys change prices? I've been having a blast with one dude but he costs 6k" |
IP costs rarely change, they will put champions on sale but it only affects the cost by using riot points.
Quote : | "i pretty much always play 1 or 2 co-op or bot games the first time i pick a new champion because you're gauranteed to win" |
i've been doing this a bit more lately as the people get really upset even in non-ranked games if you have a very very bad game, which can happen if you don't know ANY of the champion skills.4/30/2012 8:44:24 AM |