GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
you guys are ridiculous 1/7/2011 1:20:30 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^
What exactly do you not believe? Cassel had absolutely ZERO national exposure during his college career. He did well at USC's pro day and got drafted in the 7th round.
At the LEAST, Glennon will be have a full year of starts under his belt, his own pro-day (unless he completely bombs), and the NFL combine.
The bottom line is that it really doesn't matter where you play (Joe Flacco, Steve McNair, etc), or in Cassel's situation, even if you play at all. If you have the ability to play in the NFL, you'll get drafted or picked up by a team (like Gates, who signed as a free agent after not even playing college football).
Quote : | "
totally agree, maybe not EVER AGAIN but... it will hurt tob's playing time impact credibility" |
What is wrong with you guys?? Is this what you think will happen:
[other coaches] Hey, don't go to NC State, that coach only plays the best players at the position. If you come here, I'll start you over one of the best players in our school's history...I won't even care if you have no experience, I'll start you because you're a 4-star/5-star recruit! [/other coaches]
[Edited on January 7, 2011 at 1:27 PM. Reason : .]1/7/2011 1:22:02 PM |
FatTony All American 1769 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, the commnets about losing recruits is pretty lame.
Glennon knew he was going to have to compete for a starting spot from day one. After Glennon's redshirt year, he could have transferred knowing he may not start till he was a senior. I think Glennon's has bought into the team concept and has accepted his role as a backup until Wilson leaves.
If a recruit believes he deserves to start regardless of his performance, then TOB probably won't recruit him. 1/7/2011 1:38:34 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
For real, and when it comes time to get a new QB, all TOB has to do is find him and say,
"Hey, you want to come and have an opportunity to start for NC State on day one? You only have to show up and prove you're the best in spring practice."
and the QB's who want four years of exposure to get their careers launched into the pro's will say
"ok"
[Edited on January 7, 2011 at 1:49 PM. Reason : ] 1/7/2011 1:49:14 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
^ You are an idiot.
There are hundreds of of top rated QBs who have signed at big schools over the past decade who never got off the bench and got their "exposure" and a shot at the league. If you can't beat the guy ahead of you the only "exposure" you should get is at the Spring game or in mop-up duty. 1/7/2011 2:05:06 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
i dont think he is disagreeing with that 1/7/2011 2:08:58 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
WTF does that have to do with anything? Way to win the random ass rebuttals to nothing award.
[Edited on January 7, 2011 at 2:12 PM. Reason : Apology accepted] 1/7/2011 2:09:49 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
My b...thought he was being sarcastic. 1/7/2011 2:11:29 PM |
Fermata All American 3771 Posts user info edit post |
I can't find the quote now but I remember in the offseason TOB saying something to the gist of Glennon having to be content with two years starting. Now it looks like it may be just one. I do think Wilson gives us the best chance of winning but it doesn't mean that I don't feel bad for Glennon. I guarantee Daniel Evans never thought he would play as much as he did yet the opportunity fell in his lap. I remember how bad I felt for Burke when he transferred out. He would have been pretty decent in the right offense which looked to be the case for him at Louisville before he got hurt....
Wilson's success this year has been bittersweet because of the presumption that he wouldn't be back. I do think that us establishing a solid running game with a more traditional pocket QB would allow us more formations and the ability to recruit good QB's in the future. Glennon is supposed to be the stepping stone. Nobody expected Wilson to play like he did.....
So, like I said....sort of bittersweet.
[Edited on January 7, 2011 at 2:33 PM. Reason : sp] 1/7/2011 2:32:47 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
russell wilson has reached FOOTBALL GOD status to me. he is everything we could ever have imagined as a QB and leader.
i want 1 more year so badly i would give my left nut. 1/7/2011 2:54:17 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
damn
why don't you just marry him, you FAGGOT 1/7/2011 3:02:58 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
MAYBE.
I.
WILL. 1/7/2011 3:11:48 PM |
costigan Veteran 358 Posts user info edit post |
Pretty sure all the ridiculous stat lines Russell has put up in our system comprises a powerful recruiting pitch in and of itself.
Him coming back gives us even more visibility (ESPN) which projects well for us in the long-term. 1/7/2011 5:04:02 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
LETS NOT START A 3 YEAR ALL ACC CALIBER QB. INSTEAD LET'S START A 4 STAR RECRUIT THAT'S SAT ON THE BENCH FOR 3 YEARS!!!!11111
Have you people watched us play a single game the last 3 years???? 1/7/2011 5:48:48 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
I thought that him leaving was a forgone conclusion 1/7/2011 6:21:05 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
You thought wrong dammitt! (Apocalypse Now, Do Long Bridge scene) 1/7/2011 6:32:53 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
1 week till deadline to announce intentions! 1/7/2011 6:38:13 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
you guys know how this is going to play out right
wilson will leave, glennon will be the qb and he'll throw for like 300 yards and 5 TDs against whatever joke school we play week 1
then he'll either get injured or be a huge bust like his brother 1/7/2011 6:38:52 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
1/7/2011 6:48:19 PM |
DoeoJ has 7062 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "@statefansnation RT @PackPridecom Obviously these things can change, but we're hearing TE George Bryan & QB Russell Wilson will NOT declare for the NFL Draft" |
1/10/2011 6:38:54 PM |
AuH20 All American 1604 Posts user info edit post |
RW not declaring for the draft still doesn't mean that he'll be back next year.
Good to hear that about George, though. I really hope we utilize him more next year than we did this year. 1/10/2011 6:46:01 PM |
HaLo All American 14263 Posts user info edit post |
if he were leaving to play baseball anyway would there be a reason NOT to declare for the NFL? 1/10/2011 7:05:25 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
if he comes back... preseason top 15? 25? 1/10/2011 7:06:26 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
That's good news about george, he is the shizit 1/10/2011 7:25:11 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
Every season since Rivers left, whenever our team is predicted to do well prior to the season, they shit the bed
Just sayin 1/10/2011 7:27:00 PM |
CEmann All American 1913 Posts user info edit post |
keep watching, he isnt coming back 1/10/2011 7:28:42 PM |
KInge21 All American 574 Posts user info edit post |
for the last two years we have been saying he isn't coming back... 1/10/2011 7:41:19 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
^ you just made that up, actually. 1/10/2011 8:15:12 PM |
KInge21 All American 574 Posts user info edit post |
^uh, no. Each of the past two years, there were people saying R-Dubs wasn't coming back, especially last year.
First time, because he was gonna focus on baseball, and second time, because he was gone to the Rockies and not coming back. Where have you been? 1/10/2011 9:29:53 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i've been here. you may have thought he wasn't coming back, but his return hasn't really been in doubt before. 1/10/2011 9:31:39 PM |
KInge21 All American 574 Posts user info edit post |
You have a short memory bro, because there was plenty of speculation last year as to whether RW was gonna come back or just move onto his career in MLB.
But its a worthless argument, so whatever. 1/10/2011 9:34:31 PM |
NCSUJAK Veteran 266 Posts user info edit post |
yea "bro" ... 1/12/2011 9:42:22 AM |
zebranky All American 1668 Posts user info edit post |
i'm not your bro, friend
[Edited on January 12, 2011 at 9:52 AM. Reason : also, simonn, don't you remember when we had to buy russell a LION last year to make him come back?] 1/12/2011 9:47:33 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
dude's right, there has been speculation for the last two years that he wouldn't be coming back. 1/12/2011 10:01:07 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That's good news about george, he is the shizit" |
I was actually kind of dissappointed in Bryan last year. Yes he was still a top TE, but given his QB and the fact that State had two very good WRs, he should have had better numbers last year. There were games where he was a complete non-factor. I definitely hope he returns, but hopefully he'll be more productive next season.1/12/2011 10:02:19 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Wilson was honored on senior day, right? Wasn't one of the main reasons:
a) He won't be here for his senior year, better honor him while we can. 1/12/2011 10:05:29 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "a) He won't may not be here for his senior year, better honor him while we can." |
1/12/2011 10:08:52 AM |
MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "There were games where he was a complete non-factor. I definitely hope he returns, but hopefully he'll be more productive next season." |
He can't help it if the QB doesn't throw him the ball. He had some drops this year, but he had some great catches as well. I hope our QB looks his way more often in 2011.1/12/2011 10:51:38 AM |
uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
Exactly. The TE is not a #1 option. Can't catch what isn't thrown to you. 1/12/2011 10:57:06 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yes he was still a top TE, but given his QB and the fact that State had two very good WRs, he should have had better numbers last year." |
If we had a QB who couldn't run and WRs that weren't as reliable, then maybe the TE would get more chances. I think you stated two reasons why he didn't have better numbers.1/12/2011 11:11:10 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
If he comes back does he get honored again on senior day? 1/12/2011 11:24:44 AM |
DoeoJ has 7062 Posts user info edit post |
if he comes back, i say we honor him every game. 1/12/2011 11:28:20 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
^I see no reason why he wouldn't. I remember Chance Moyer was honored twice...there may be a more recent example. 1/12/2011 11:29:42 AM |
Tarun almost 11687 Posts user info edit post |
Russell decides to go to the NFL and gets drafted by Panthers! 1/12/2011 11:30:01 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
yeah im sure they want another short QB whose passes get swatted like flies 1/12/2011 11:46:51 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Dameyune Craig redux 1/12/2011 11:48:52 AM |
jsausley All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
This seems to me like Wilson will be coming back. We know he told his dad that he "wants to be a starting baseball player and a starting quarterback." Since he didn't declare it seems like coming back will be the only option to make both of those things happen. 1/12/2011 12:26:54 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5859 Posts user info edit post |
Bttt 1/14/2011 2:38:34 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
why bttt w/o anything to add 1/14/2011 3:00:22 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
Didn't his decision have to be made today? 1/14/2011 3:03:02 PM |