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"I like how at the end of the video he said it is dangerous because they are obeying the law- just because they were going the speed limit does not make what they did legal, or responsible. bunch of douchenozzles, I say"

I agree with this.... but also I want speed limits to go up to 80-90

3/2/2011 10:44:23 AM

The federal government is planning to reinstate the 55mph national speed limit soon.

If you want to "go green" you can't have your cake and eat it too.

3/2/2011 10:47:42 AM

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"just because they were going the speed limit does not make what they did legal, or responsible."

3/2/2011 10:49:01 AM

The law is always right, because it's the law.

3/2/2011 10:50:29 AM

left lane is for passing, slower cars keep right, etc... I'm sure they could be charged for impeding the flow of traffic, maybe even upwards of wreckless driving.

3/2/2011 10:50:51 AM

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"if cyclists want to use the road just like cars, they should register their vehicles and get bike licenses and follow the laws. NY is considering making some of that a reality."

This is a great idea.

3/2/2011 10:52:59 AM

people are failing to realize- if you ride a bike on the road, you already are held liable to the current laws. They don't need licenses and shit

3/2/2011 10:54:15 AM

^^ Too bad that's unconstitutional

3/2/2011 10:55:33 AM

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"^^ Too bad that's unconstitutional"

How?

3/2/2011 10:56:43 AM

I missed the part of the constitution that dealt with automobile registrations.

3/2/2011 10:57:04 AM

it is against the spirit of the constitution, but how is unconstitutional? Driving a car on public roads and riding a bike are both privileges afforded to us by living here, not rights

while I don't like the government stepping in and trying to control things like this, there are very few things that i would consider truly protected by the constitution

3/2/2011 10:58:00 AM

^^ Me too.

3/2/2011 10:58:27 AM

In truth the government can charge you a fee to walk on public roads if they want to.

3/2/2011 10:58:47 AM

yup - but only if we allow them to

3/2/2011 10:59:25 AM

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Not that it means anything anymore.

3/2/2011 11:00:25 AM

Yeah that part is null and void.

3/2/2011 11:01:51 AM

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"I like how at the end of the video he said it is dangerous because they are obeying the law- just because they were going the speed limit does not make what they did legal, or responsible. bunch of douchenozzles, I say"

It's just a failed experiment altogether. They wanted to show what would happen when people drove the speed limit, but then they just went out and blocked lanes. Not the same thing. Go out there and drive between 50-55mph in different lanes and show how dangerous it is with people weaving in and out... or something... but simply driving parallel to each other at any speed proves nothing.

Also. Obeying the law? Isn't there a keep right unless you are passing law? Or an obstruction of traffic law?

These guys just set out to piss people off, nothing more. You can tell by all the smiling, laughing, and mocking that they got their jollies. So tank guy, feel free to track those clowns down.

[Edited on March 2, 2011 at 11:05 AM. Reason : -]

3/2/2011 11:03:27 AM

yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking- bunch of jerkoffs

3/2/2011 11:05:07 AM

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""The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.""

So how would this not include the State of New York wanting to give out licenses for bicycles?

3/2/2011 11:05:50 AM

Congratulations, you've been successfully trolled.

3/2/2011 11:05:53 AM

3/2/2011 11:06:57 AM

^^ Yeah yeah get called out and suddenly you're trolling

3/2/2011 11:07:22 AM

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"So how would this not include the State of New York wanting to give out licenses for bicycles?"

Is this towards me? I wasn't the one who said it was unconstitutional.

3/2/2011 11:08:18 AM

Nor I. I hope they regulate and tax the hell out of those spandex-clad fuckers.

3/2/2011 11:12:56 AM

And think of the revenue from fining those assholes for not wearing a seat belt.

3/2/2011 11:18:30 AM

^ That's the spirit! We'll have this law passed in no time.

3/2/2011 11:21:43 AM

well NY was the first state to pass seat belt legislation...


although I am against it. I think laws should be in place to keep you from hurting others. I feel like if you want to ride around on a motorcycle without a helmet, that is going to only hurt you in the long run. Same with seat belts, smoking, and trans fat. It's our lives, let us live 'em [/libertarianism]

[Edited on March 2, 2011 at 11:39 AM. Reason : w]

3/2/2011 11:28:48 AM

[Edited on March 2, 2011 at 11:49 AM. Reason : ]

3/2/2011 11:46:05 AM

PANTALOON STIRRUPS

I hope a buggy runs his ass over.

3/2/2011 12:00:19 PM

^^Are those two extra seats behind the guy? Reminds me of the South Park vehicle

3/2/2011 12:04:14 PM

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"Biofreak70: although I am against it. I think laws should be in place to keep you from hurting others. I feel like if you want to ride around on a motorcycle without a helmet, that is going to only hurt you in the long run. Same with seat belts, smoking, and trans fat. It's our lives, let us live 'em [/libertarianism]"

People who suffer severe head injuries do so at an enormous cost to society whether it's in health insurance, Medicaid, or the eventual disability checks they often end up dependent on for the rest of their lives (and the loss of what they could have contributed).

3/2/2011 12:16:29 PM

http://www.grist.org/article/2011-02-28-how-bicycling-will-save-the-economy (Hippie commie socialist freedom haters )

3/2/2011 1:51:33 PM

So, to sum up TWW's arguments against cyclists

1. They cause me momentary inconvenience while driving
2. They wear stupid clothes

these grievances cannot be allowed to stand unanswered!!

3/2/2011 2:00:19 PM

^^^ thats exactly why bicycles shouldn't be allowed on roads. I don't want my tax dollars paying for some dumb fucks injuries because he thinks his 10 pound bike and helmet will save him if a 3000 pound vehicle hits him.

[Edited on March 2, 2011 at 2:03 PM. Reason : ^]

3/2/2011 2:02:23 PM

I'm a cyclist, and I think critical mass people are assholes. Anyone who goes out of their way to intentionally inconvenience people is pretty much a giant douche.

I think this guy should be charged with multiple counts of attempted vehicular manslaughter or attempted murder.

I also think most cyclists are pricks who don't follow the law when they ride. Same can be said for most motorists.

3/2/2011 2:04:30 PM

^^^ thats a terrible summation of the grievances

3/2/2011 2:06:43 PM

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"^^ thats exactly why bicycles pedestrians shouldn't be allowed on roads. I don't want my tax dollars paying for some dumb fucks injuries because he thinks his backpack and New Balances will save him if a 3000 pound vehicle hits him."

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"^^ thats exactly why bicycles motorcycles shouldn't be allowed on roads. I don't want my tax dollars paying for some dumb fucks injuries because he thinks his 400 pound bike and helmet will save him if a 3000 pound vehicle hits him."

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"^^ thats exactly why bicycles Miatas shouldn't be allowed on roads. I don't want my tax dollars paying for some dumb fucks injuries because he thinks his 2000 pound convertible will save him if a 6000 pound truck hits him."

3/2/2011 2:07:53 PM

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"dude...there is a gas station/convenience store 1 mile from my house. There is a grocery store and a few other little things in a strip mall about 5 miles away. For most places I'd need to go, I'm looking at >10 miles. I think work is nearly 25 miles away. Most people don't live and work in a downtown area where it's really feasible to use a bicycle for much of anything other than recreation/exercise. More power to the handful of you in a position to ride a bicycle for transportation, but we're talking about a small percentage of people, here."

I'm talking about people who live in civilization

3/2/2011 2:14:20 PM

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"I mean, many of you talk about how you do use your cars to drive out of the city on a long distance trip. Well, let's say you get an emergency call--your mother who lives a couple hours outside the city was rushed to the hospital. And you hop in your car to go see her, and then run into these critical mass people. Or your child is sick, and you're trying to get her to the hospital. Or suppose there's no emergency--it's just you and your bros driving out the city to go up to the mountain and do some mountain biking (HA!), and you run into these guys. Would you not be extremely angry? I'm an overly empathetic person. And I can't image how enraged I would be if a few dozen people decided to block the path to my dying mother."

Any protest causes a problem in your extremely rare "crisis scenario". So I guess the question is: do you have a problem with protest in general?

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"On the other hand, I'm trying to grasp the perspectives of the riders, and I'm having trouble...they seem to be utterly obsessed, self-righteous individuals with some possible persecutory delusions. I love the environment, and I'm a big fan of healthy/sustainable living initiatives (not a big fan of the current conditions in many places), but these critical mass folks are precisely what I hate--the self-righteous, uncompromising, myopic pricks who are willing to inconvenience hundreds of innocent strangers just to show everybody, as in "Oh, we'll show you!""

So you object to protest.

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"Also, whenever anybody starts talking about "moral superiority," it's game over for me. I'd love to hear about my moral obligation to the environment but not so much about how I'm inferior. Plus, I think it's wrong to rely on "moral superiority" as a justification for harming others. That's what crazy people do, and it's also an excellent way to kick off some actual persecution. Anyway, I want my abortion clinics, my violent video games, and the ability to get wherever the road will take me without having my path needlessly and purposefully blocked by some cycling enthusiasts."

It's pretty depressing to see somebody supposedly as open minded and progressive as yourself so blatantly misunderstanding the importance of protest

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" What are you talking about?!?!?! I've noticed that people from all walks of life ride bikes for a variety of reasons. Can you describe this sizable ("most") demographic of people who want bike riders off the road? I mean, yes, almost everybody complains a bit on the very, very rare occasion that there are fives guys all decked out for a recreational trip in their performance cycling outfits, riding side-by-side down Western during rush hour. But I don't believe that there's some considerable contingent of people who want bike commuters off the road. [Edited on March 2, 2011 at 12:06 AM. Reason : Nobody wants to hurt you.]"

Haha and then you follow it up brilliantly with a "what problem? I don't see a problem!" bullshit that you normally call other people out on. How often do you bike?

[Edited on March 2, 2011 at 2:20 PM. Reason : .]

3/2/2011 2:17:30 PM

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"a biker hit my car today dude passed me on the right, in my lane, and clipped my mirror and folded it forward. i rolled down my window and told him to get his smug, hipster, fuck face off of the road until he learns how to obey the laws. dude got off his bike and walked to my drivers side door and kinda leaned in (window was cracked). I opened it, got out, got in his face, and told him to do something about it. I said I was happy to wait for the cops. He road away on his bike. Stupid hippie hipster fuck faces"

you are literally a chimpanzee

3/2/2011 2:18:38 PM

you literally don't know what literally means

[Edited on March 2, 2011 at 2:22 PM. Reason : and i was kidding. it wasn't that day. it was a couple years ago when it happened. cost me $100]

3/2/2011 2:21:46 PM

nobody gives a fuck when your event didn't happen, man

nor what a prick you wish you could be

3/2/2011 2:25:14 PM

literally a prick

literally

3/2/2011 2:25:40 PM

hahaha how old are you, to be posting angry fantasies on a message board?

3/2/2011 2:26:12 PM

and that was then a crowd gathered on the sidewalk and begin to clap...

3/2/2011 2:26:59 PM

i'm 12, what's this?

3/2/2011 2:27:47 PM

that was then

3/2/2011 2:28:10 PM

TROLL WARS

3/2/2011 2:28:57 PM

damn wookies

3/2/2011 2:44:44 PM

soap box? in MY chit chat?

3/2/2011 2:49:19 PM