arcane mind Veteran 135 Posts user info edit post |
Lutz has been hired! 4/8/2011 7:29:02 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Anonymous said... Best news I've received in awhile...Great hire if it happens. Bobby gets closer to home and in the ACC with TALENT! Something he couldn't get and never would have gotten at UNCC. Im a Duke fan but can I can see me wearing Red/White/ now...Awesome, Awesome, Awesome for Bobby...Bobby is the best x/o guy out there and you will see how well he recruits now that he is in ACC.....Go pack!
April 8, 2011 6:17 PM
Read more: http://aboverim.blogspot.com/2011/04/wolfpack-close-to-hiring-lutz.html#ixzz1IyeyquWm" | ]4/8/2011 7:29:59 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
Not knocking these hires at all, but this is hardly a dream staff (or best in nation or however Yow described it) 4/8/2011 7:30:45 PM |
arcane mind Veteran 135 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.gastongazette.com/sports/lutz-56614-state-coach.html 4/8/2011 7:36:30 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
^^some pretty darn good ones though.
best staff we have had here in at least 30 years 4/8/2011 8:00:50 PM |
stone All American 6003 Posts user info edit post |
From a pure coaching aspect I tend to feel like the Lutz hire is huge. Honestly I can not think of many teams that have an assistant on the roster that has won as much as he did in Charlotte. I also like the guard play he had on his teams. It seemed like their guards could shoot the 3. I think he will be a quality recruiter as well. I liked the Early hire as he seemed to get good talent to bama when he was with MG. I would like to see Harris stay for the recruiting abilities. I think Lutz was more of a coaching hire and Early is mostly coming in to recruit. I think with the talent Larry brings in with Early's that Lutz can really help MG with coaching the kids up. So far I think this is a balanced coaching staff.
Either way Archie will be our next coach. I think one reason we have a hard time getting an A list coach was because we have no alum in coaching. Many schools best hires come from Alum. I do not want to hear about Sid being alum cause he had a Sally Struthers degree. We really need a coach to stay a long time and teach some alum players about coaching. We really have very alum out there in the coaching ranks. 4/8/2011 8:03:05 PM |
j_sun All American 9198 Posts user info edit post |
a coach is only as good as his staff 4/8/2011 8:03:57 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
lets just get archie miller to be head coach with Nate McMillan, Vinny Del Negro and Julius Hodge to be assistants
is Lutz a defensive coach at all? I feel like our last assistant should be a defensive/big man specialist, we can stand to lose Larry Harris since the rest of our coaches are solid recruiters and better X/O coaches 4/8/2011 8:12:59 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
a coach is only as good as his stuff
and he's got the stuff 4/8/2011 8:14:39 PM |
j_sun All American 9198 Posts user info edit post |
she knew he had the stuff when he was 18 4/8/2011 8:16:28 PM |
uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
Alright, which one of you updated Lutz's wiki page...you got called out by the gazette 4/8/2011 8:50:34 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
^What did his Wiki page say? I just looked at it and didn't notice anything
[Edited on April 8, 2011 at 9:13 PM. Reason : ] 4/8/2011 9:12:36 PM |
Kickstand All American 11597 Posts user info edit post |
A++++ hire!!! Would recommend!!!!!! 4/8/2011 10:56:49 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Officemate, a rabid uncc basketball and football fan, said that Lutz was known for having discipline problems wiith talented athletes and not playing defense...but his teams were fast and exciting. I'm worried we don't have discipline or defense in our coaches so far, which likely would've been solved with a gaudio hire.
I'll have to ask him and others more when I get in on Monday, but we could see what they've said on ninernation.com
[Edited on April 9, 2011 at 12:10 AM. Reason : link] 4/9/2011 12:09:11 AM |
erice85 All American 4549 Posts user info edit post |
do you really get all of your news from the office?
if so, you should probably find some better sources
for example, my office mates think UNC's team this year should have won the national championship. i think they are full of shit. i believe your officemates that you frequently mention are full of shit as well 4/9/2011 1:45:51 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "a rabid uncc basketball and football fan" |
one of these things is not like the others
[Edited on April 9, 2011 at 2:04 AM. Reason : you're really not doing yourself any favors]4/9/2011 1:57:29 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
sidenote: rabid UNCC fans are a lot more delusional than rabid NCSU fans 4/9/2011 1:59:09 AM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
^typical behavior from a bunch of virgins 4/9/2011 3:28:38 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
I say football because uncc is developing a football program now, he is a huge supporter of it, has a few uncc football shirts, and ordered some limited edition autographed football helmet. Keep trolling and adding no content though, it makes me happy and you look pathetic
Lol what the hell, you people are attacking me instead of saying whether my information was accurate, which was the point of posting it here. U mad or something?
[Edited on April 9, 2011 at 8:00 AM. Reason : Lg]
[Edited on April 9, 2011 at 8:01 AM. Reason : j] 4/9/2011 7:58:27 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
N&O is trying to stir things up with the Harrick talk this morning. I think it makes sense that Gottfried is picking his brain, but I truly hope and expect he will not be an assistant coach. I'm all for second chances, but NCAA trouble has followed him to his last 3 coaching stops. He was only marginally successful at UGA, and left the program in a mess. He will also be 73 this summer, so I question whether he has the energy needed from college assistants. All in all, I'm not buying that Harrick is going to be a member of the staff, but I do expect Coach Gottfried to pick his brain a good bit. 4/9/2011 8:48:35 AM |
uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
Yow won't hire or let him hire anyone with NCAA issues...she has made that clear.
I don't know if it has been changed or not but the gazette article said his wiki page had been edited at 4:30 saying he was an assistant at State. 4/9/2011 9:57:10 AM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
It has been mentioned that a major problem with Gottfried's teams were that his staff turned into yes men after some personnel turnover.
I dont think we will have this problem with these coaches. 4/9/2011 9:57:51 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Need some defense and big man development 4/9/2011 12:19:54 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
So at this point have we officially hired a second or third assistant coach? 4/9/2011 6:03:48 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
Lutz is fairly official 4/9/2011 6:04:59 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
at this point i assume Larry Harris is gone? i haven't seen any posts or press releases in regards to his status on the staff, and if he was staying i would think that means our assistant slots are filled
deductive reasoning in this bitch 4/9/2011 7:07:01 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
harris and strickland are the ones that were spreading most of the BD rumors. strickland told one of my personal friends that donavan was coming. 4/9/2011 7:24:01 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think it's safe to assume he is gone until Gottfried fills all three assistant positions. Harris was gone last time before Sidney asked him to join his staff. It is safe to assume he has not been hired yet, and most likely Gottfried is looking at other options. 4/9/2011 7:27:19 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "larry harris needs to gtfo
no offense to the guy but he's just been around too many shitty teams. we need to move on" |
4/9/2011 7:30:26 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
^ I agree. Harris may be a good coach, I don't know. But, IMO, it's time to just start with a clean slate. Totally new regime. 4/9/2011 7:36:20 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
it seems like his job as a big time recruiter can be handled by Early/Lutz, based on the players they brought to fucking UNCC
that said, if he was offered a spot on the staff, i would be ok with that 4/9/2011 7:56:52 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
If Harris isn't part of the staff here, it wouldn't suprise me to see him on Archie's staff at Dayton.
He won't be out of a job for long. 4/9/2011 8:31:00 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Harris is a big time recruiter. We would be fools to let him go. 4/9/2011 8:43:16 PM |
Chance Suspended 4725 Posts user info edit post |
How do we know Harris is that good of a recruiter? 4/9/2011 8:49:16 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
^seriously? 4/9/2011 8:52:21 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
what is the limit for how many assistants you can have in any capacity 4/9/2011 9:06:15 PM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
I think it's 16 4/9/2011 9:08:45 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
only gunzz would brag about getting grossly inaccurate "inside information". 4/9/2011 9:32:19 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How do we know Harris is that good of a recruiter?" |
Yes, seriously. How do we know anyone is a great recruiter? The obvious reply is "look who they got to come to the school," but how do you know that was one member of the staff and not the other? Honest question.4/9/2011 9:44:22 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
i know that on scout.com or rivals.com they list the primary recruiter for committed players
obviously you could make the argument that it isn't one single coach who got a player to commit, but overall Harris has been known as a coach who can relate to players and he has been cited as a big reason many players have committed to State 4/9/2011 10:05:08 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
The players themselves say he is a big reason they came.
Believe it or not, in the years Harris has been here, NCSU has overachieved on the recruiting trail. We pull in talent that most other programs do no get.
Those players were either wasted, transferred, or left early.
But Harris got them here. That's why major programs want him
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Side note: people who want to "clean house" have never managed anything or run a business before. Firing talented employees is one of the most expensive, dumbest things a business can do. You are firing someone for political affiliation, not the merits of their performance. This is a sign of bad management. Smart managers figure out how to get the most out of the talent they have.
[Edited on April 9, 2011 at 11:56 PM. Reason : .] 4/9/2011 11:41:18 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You are firing someone for political affiliation, not the merits of their performance." |
no, it would be for gross underperformance by the prior four man unit that they were a part of.4/10/2011 12:36:49 AM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
There's also a reason politicians have term limits 4/10/2011 1:04:33 AM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
how responsible is Harris for the two regimes (Sendek, Lowe) that underachieved?
i understand the notion that the slate should be wiped clean, but the man earned some serious clout with the players he got to come to State
/devil's advocate 4/10/2011 1:04:43 AM |
j_sun All American 9198 Posts user info edit post |
he's pretty clueless as a coach. he gets things done on the recruiting trail, but not on the court. it made sense for lowe to keep him in the beginning to keep a little consistency in the program, but he really didn't need to keep him around more than a few years. 4/10/2011 10:17:38 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "only gunzz would brag about getting grossly inaccurate "inside information"." |
who the fuck is bragging, troll? thats a statement of fact. some people want to know where the rumor mongering started and it was them feeding bad information out. harris was our big man coach too ... lol
Simon, i could tell you who was offered and in what order and how we wound up with gottfired...thats bragging.
[Edited on April 10, 2011 at 1:22 PM. Reason : .]4/10/2011 1:21:52 PM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
seriously simonn, didn't you know gunzz is the first informed about everything. 4/10/2011 1:26:49 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
^^ i'd believe whatever you told me, too. 4/10/2011 5:18:45 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
it's unsettling to me how a typo can change the meaning of his name4/10/2011 6:01:00 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Herp
[Edited on April 10, 2011 at 7:33 PM. Reason : derp] 4/10/2011 7:32:37 PM |