dakota_man All American 26584 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i feel like the simultaneous possession call is justified" |
Despite the way they called it on TV, I agree. There was a big grab-back by the receiver, and as they went to the ground it looked like it was about as close to either of them as it could ever get.
At least Russell Wilson will get a week's worth of awesome media coverage.
edit: I hope this isn't against the rules. I don't come in here that much.
[Edited on September 25, 2012 at 12:08 AM. Reason : .]9/25/2012 12:07:53 AM |
GrimReap3r All American 2732 Posts user info edit post |
ANARCHY!!!! 9/25/2012 12:09:46 AM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
lol what is this gorilla thing 9/25/2012 12:10:17 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
lol at that 2nd to last gif 9/25/2012 12:11:54 AM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
l2internet 9/25/2012 12:13:44 AM |
Kickstand All American 11596 Posts user info edit post |
I can't wait for Golden Tate to act like he's the man in a postgame interview. You can't take credit for that crap. He didn't even have simultaneous possession until the very last second. 9/25/2012 12:14:12 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
RUSSELL WILSON OVERCOMING 25 YEARS OF NC STATE SHIT
9/25/2012 12:15:21 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
It's worrying that that last photoshop exists 9/25/2012 12:16:19 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Shit, nothing else Wilson definitely has a future in commentating if nothing else
LOL at Rodgers ragging on the refs 9/25/2012 12:22:14 AM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
haha @ the rustler of jimmies 9/25/2012 12:24:04 AM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
LOL! 9/25/2012 12:24:19 AM |
Roflpack All American 1966 Posts user info edit post |
Beginning to think face isn't actually a professional gambler because it seems like he never loses on anything. Even on insane bizarre endings. 9/25/2012 12:24:40 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
So pumped that I picked up his rookie card already before this game
9/25/2012 12:24:42 AM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
wilson first player to throw a game winning interception
[someone on twitter] 9/25/2012 12:24:45 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Beginning to think face isn't actually a professional gambler because it seems like he never loses on anything. Even on insane bizarre endings." |
he was talking about what he bet on during the game (before the hail mary)...9/25/2012 12:25:41 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
uh dude ive lost on more crazy shit than you can possibly imagine. I've NEVER won on anything remotely that ridiculous. That was unbelievable. 9/25/2012 12:26:59 AM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Shit, nothing else Wilson definitely has a future in commentating if nothing else" |
to me if nothing else wilson definitely has a future in commentating if nothing else to me9/25/2012 12:28:35 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Sue me, I can't see the whole text box on my phone so sue me 9/25/2012 12:31:53 AM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
haha, i'm not even trying to give you a hard time. it just had me cracking up. i'm at work with nothing to do so i have to entertain myself somehow 9/25/2012 12:37:07 AM |
Roflpack All American 1966 Posts user info edit post |
5 months ago you told me you make more money gambling on sports than I ever will working in my life so I just assumed that you professionally gambled on lucky hail marry game enders. 9/25/2012 12:40:24 AM |
dakota_man All American 26584 Posts user info edit post |
RUSSELL WILSON SINGLE-HANDEDLY SAVES NFL REFEREES 9/25/2012 12:55:45 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Russell Wilson: Someone tell these motherfuckers where I'm from
9/25/2012 1:07:08 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
this gif is amazing
9/25/2012 1:10:10 AM |
poohpimpin All American 636 Posts user info edit post |
^^ wow... tony rutland with an appearance on tdub 9/25/2012 8:26:52 AM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
good to see he's still a fucking fraud in the NFL
quoting scripture on twitter as if god had some how made it his plan for replacement refs to fuck up that game
fucking. fraud.
[Edited on September 25, 2012 at 9:33 AM. Reason : .] 9/25/2012 9:33:07 AM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
So this sucks, but I didn't have any more time to work on this. You get the idea.
can't make it any smaller. sorry. 9/25/2012 9:40:45 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
wut 9/25/2012 9:46:58 AM |
jsausley All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Cool story. 9/25/2012 9:49:18 AM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
im in love with the idea of that gif
needs a little more work, though. make a long form gif where he has a thought bubble to the unc play first or something 9/25/2012 10:20:20 AM |
Punter16 All American 2021 Posts user info edit post |
Ha yeah "simultaneous possession"
9/25/2012 11:01:01 AM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
what does that picture prove?
that his big flabby white backwards thumb hand is not on the football? 9/25/2012 11:02:38 AM |
Punter16 All American 2021 Posts user info edit post |
Or maybe that Jennings came down in full possession of the football? 9/25/2012 11:06:31 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
That pictures is a couple seconds after they had already landed and rolled around. I'm not arguing about the call...but that picture is meaningless. 9/25/2012 11:11:34 AM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
Full possession doesnt mean if one guy has it in his chest and the other only has it clasped in both hands
Im pretty sure this rule will be changed because of this for next season, but the rules do not state you have to control the ball to your chest
the rule shouldnt go that in depth in my opinion
[Edited on September 25, 2012 at 11:14 AM. Reason : d] 9/25/2012 11:12:42 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
^^ 9/25/2012 11:37:30 AM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
^^ The rule is written that way to allow a highly competent official to make a judgment call on what constitutes control of the football -- which unfortunately is not what the NFL had on the field last night.
Plus if you try to define control of the football for every possible situation, it would take pages. 9/25/2012 12:25:46 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
No its easy "if in question, official will quickly check trending topics on twitter to see who had control" 9/25/2012 12:47:17 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
lol 9/25/2012 1:00:03 PM |
CapnObvious All American 5057 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I would love to see what my reaction would be if a Mavs game ended like #MNF. #Expensive #NBAtime" |
Mark Cuban's response on the Monday Night Football debacle. I, too, would like to see that reaction.9/25/2012 3:36:34 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
That was not a simultaneous catch. At no point did Golden Tate ever do anything that could possibly be considered catching that football. Look at what defines a catch and then tell me Golden Tate met those qualifications. You can't.
It wasn't simultaneous possession. At no point did Golden Tate ever do anything that could be considered possessing the football. If that was a loose football it would have been awarded to the Packers. Hell, if that was a basketball game I doubt it's called a tie ball.
What really bothers me, and has bothered me on several occasion over the last couple of weeks is that the officials aren't even making a call or explaining a call. On several occasions they've simply signaled touchdown and then just said "the ruling is confirmed." They're allowing plays to continue and then relying on replay to give them time to figure out what the hell just happened. Look at the Oakland Pittsburgh game where Antonio Brown fumbled it into the endzone and recovered. No mention was ever made of the fumble or who recovered. They just signaled TD and then said it was confirmed. That kind of stuff is unacceptable. That's a big part of what is pissing the coaches off, there is no explanation given of a call.
Last night, if they had announced that the ruling on the field is a simultaneous catch, TD Seattle, we are now reviewing the play, it would have gone a long way towards preventing some of the backlash. They still would have had it wrong, but at least we would have known what the hell was going on. Instead, no officials conference, no announcement of the ruling on the field, nothing. Just a replay review and a blown call. 9/25/2012 3:59:40 PM |
jsausley All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
The call was definitely wrong last night. Simultaneous possession implies a 50-50 possession. Both players have equal control.
Last night, it was 80-20 in favor of Green Bay. I don't think I could call that play anything other than an interception. Yes, the Seahawks player had a hand on it and therefore had some control over the ball but it was hardly a simultaneous catch.
The mistake occurred when the referee called a touchdown. As we know, the referees cannot review who caught the ball. They can only review if the ball was caught. If they'd already said it was a touchdown, the only possible way they could change the call was to say it was incomplete. The pass was definitely not incomplete. Therefore the review was correct. The call was wrong, but the review was correct.
If this had happened with the standard NFL referees, everyone would be upset about the wrong call. But because it happened with replacement referees, they have become the target of a mass amount of anger and controversy. I have my doubts that it would still be all over the sports world today if it had just been a bad call. But it was a bad call that may not have happened if the experienced referees had been on the field. THAT is why we have a major controversy.
I'm very, very happy that the Seahawks won this game. Despite the terrible call on the final play, it was a tremendously well fought game. All things considered, Russell Wilson played brilliantly. He put together a tremendous final game winning drive. The controversial pass was not his fault at all. He put the ball exactly where it needed to be. If he had thrown it anywhere else, it would have been intercepted or incomplete. He threw it into the crowd of players in the end zone and got lucky that the referees decided to call it in his favor. It was a wrong call, but the fact that it came down that way doesn't reflect on Russell at all.
I wish the Seahawks would have won this game truthfully and not only on a technicality, but I'm still glad that they took down the Packers. 9/25/2012 4:00:51 PM |
JasonNSCU85 All American 2176 Posts user info edit post |
I vote that everyone gets over it
We all know that the replacement refs suck, and will eventually be replaced with the regular refs that suck. 9/25/2012 4:05:05 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The mistake occurred when the referee called a touchdown. As we know, the referees cannot review who caught the ball. They can only review if the ball was caught. If they'd already said it was a touchdown, the only possible way they could change the call was to say it was incomplete. The pass was definitely not incomplete. Therefore the review was correct. The call was wrong, but the review was correct." |
Nope. Straight from the NFL's release today:
Quote : | ""“Seattle quarterback Russell Wilson threw a pass into the end zone. Several players, including Seattle wide receiver Golden Tate and Green Bay safety M.D. Jennings, jumped into the air in an attempt to catch the ball.
“While the ball is in the air, Tate can be seen shoving Green Bay cornerback Sam Shields to the ground. This should have been a penalty for offensive pass interference, which would have ended the game. It was not called and is not reviewable in instant replay.
“When the players hit the ground in the end zone, the officials determined that both Tate and Jennings had possession of the ball. Under the rule for simultaneous catch, the ball belongs to Tate, the offensive player. The result of the play was a touchdown.
“Replay Official Howard Slavin stopped the game for an instant replay review. The aspects of the play that were reviewable included if the ball hit the ground and who had possession of the ball. In the end zone, a ruling of a simultaneous catch is reviewable. That is not the case in the field of play, only in the end zone.
“Referee Wayne Elliott determined that no indisputable visual evidence existed to overturn the call on the field, and as a result, the on-field ruling of touchdown stood. The NFL Officiating Department reviewed the video today and supports the decision not to overturn the on-field ruling following the instant replay review.
“The result of the game is final.”" |
The review officials were regular NFL employees, not scabs.9/25/2012 4:23:53 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Calvin Johnson non-touchdown 9/25/2012 4:25:08 PM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
9/25/2012 4:27:13 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Yes, but the review official is not a full time official and is not the one making the determination, the on field referee is. This is not college where the review official tells the guy on the field what the call is. So they reviewed it, and still got the call wrong.
Of course the NFL backed the call, they have virtually no choice but to do so.
[Edited on September 25, 2012 at 4:36 PM. Reason : sdfs] 9/25/2012 4:34:01 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
So we should listen to some cop on the wolf web in a basketball city over the nfl 9/25/2012 4:39:08 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
n/m
[Edited on September 25, 2012 at 4:44 PM. Reason : 2] 9/25/2012 4:40:22 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
The pizza man said the call was right
[Edited on September 25, 2012 at 4:43 PM. Reason : V] 9/25/2012 4:41:28 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
all the locked out officials told Adam Schefter it wasn't a simultaneous catch, and that the offensive pass interference was so obvious there should've been multiple flags
but what do they know, they've just been officiating NFL games for decades 9/25/2012 4:46:54 PM |