rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Woot woot for 8 assists, 1 TO. Suck it haters... 12/17/2014 9:48:16 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
12/17/2014 10:09:26 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
Qualities of Cancer: HONEST 12/17/2014 10:10:56 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
bump for tonight.
great game, especially second half 12/23/2014 10:25:25 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i'm a big fan of cat. have been, and continue to be. 12/24/2014 12:42:58 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Notice all of his so called "breakout" games come against mid majors. Our previous pgs had great games against elite competition. 12/25/2014 4:15:27 PM |
mbrown3 Veteran 453 Posts user info edit post |
Honest 12/25/2014 4:54:46 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
^^ By that logic, Javi was a legend. 12/25/2014 5:26:39 PM |
titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ pretty sure that's why analysts call nc state "pg U!"
All those dominating efforts over powerhouses by our long legacy of top notch PG. Cat has some big shoes to fill. 12/25/2014 9:03:45 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe im just being biased but those guys all had games they took over against top teams. Lewis vs miami. 12/29/2014 1:51:10 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Best flopper in The country
#creditwhereitsdue 12/30/2014 4:52:24 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
liked his offense in the second half. he was basically our only offense all game 12/30/2014 6:17:44 PM |
sag1804 All American 914 Posts user info edit post |
He is the ONLY damn reason we didn't lose by 30 points plus. 12/31/2014 2:10:32 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Robinson would have murdered Lewis
but seriously, another good game by Cat 1/3/2015 2:04:06 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Much appreciated! Another solid game by Cat! 1/3/2015 2:06:18 PM |
JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
As much as I cursed him in the first half, Cat was pretty solid in the 2nd half controlling the game despite not showing much in the box score. 1/12/2015 9:31:29 AM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
lol Cat making Sulaimon so mad with the flops. 1/12/2015 9:36:42 AM |
yrey All American 1150 Posts user info edit post |
After watching recaps of the game I figured out what his problem is. In the half court offense the other team's defense is set so he can't use his explosive speed, he needs high screens set for him and GOOD ones. There are only low screens set primary for Turner,and Barber has few lanes to drive to due to the poor spacing. Reference the Miami and Duke game and watch how many high screens were set for their quick point guard to get into the lanes for easy buckets. Barber doesn't have none of this and this is something Gottfried should work on immediately. 1/15/2015 12:15:57 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
^yup. Cat could be effective in the right scheme. What we're running right now does a guy with his skillset 0 favors. 1/15/2015 12:31:05 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
He's incredibly easy to defend because he doesn't have a prayer of making a jumper with any regularity.
They can just go under every screen and beat him to the spot with 0 fear of him actually pulling up and shooting.
Until he shows he can actually make a wide open shot he's never going to be effective in ANY offense, no just State's. 1/15/2015 12:38:30 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
You can be an effective point guard without a 3 point shot. Cat can hit the mid range jumper with decent effectiveness. 1/15/2015 1:33:22 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Of course you can be, but Cat isn't. Kendall Marshall is a great example of this, but KM was diming people up all over the court by making great individual plays in the form of passes. That's how you influence games when you can't score.
Every now and then he'll shoot from the elbow, but he the fact remains he has a broke jumper and other teams are daring him to shoot it now.
You fan feel him trying to wish it in the basket the few times he actually does square up.
[Edited on January 15, 2015 at 2:13 PM. Reason : ...] 1/15/2015 2:10:51 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
He has a true shooting percentage of 54% and an effective shooting percentage of 48%. I couldn't find any stats about mid-range jumpers versus layups, but you make it sound like he's never hit a jumper. 1/15/2015 2:15:44 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Until he shows he can actually make a wide open shot he's never going to be effective in ANY offense, no just State's." |
Is his confidence just completely gone or what? Dude does not even look to shoot a 3 at all. Teams are pretty much daring him to. I wish he would develop his 3 and he could be really good.1/15/2015 2:18:04 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
I'd love to see how many of those shots are actually outside of 12 feet.
Somebody also point out the next time a defender tries to fight over the top because they're afraid Cat is going to pull up please. We might be waiting a while. 1/15/2015 2:18:47 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/north-carolina-state/2015.html
His PER is 11th on the team
Freeman's PER is god awful.
Cat's ability to draw fouls is very good, I do wish he would drive to the basket more.
And lol at Anya's block percentage. He blocks 16% of the 2 point field goals attempted while he's in the game. Not 16% of the shots he tries to block, but 16% of every shot attempted while he's on the floor. And 18.5% in only conference games.
Also, Chris Brickhouse is the new Jevoni. Ultra efficient in garbage time against other scrubs.
[Edited on January 15, 2015 at 2:29 PM. Reason : add another note] 1/15/2015 2:25:57 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
You used to rage on Rally for citing basketball analytics, now here we are.
[Edited on January 15, 2015 at 2:46 PM. Reason : ..] 1/15/2015 2:45:19 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Cat's got a good jumper. Obviously he needs to work on his 3, but he's pretty good inside the arc. I really like his pull-up but he hasn't been doing that as much recently for some reason. 1/15/2015 3:07:50 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
cat barber is not an all conference caliber pg. but thats no reason to dislike him. he never made any promises he isnt keeping. i appreciate what he is doing for the team. 1/15/2015 3:13:01 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Who dislikes him? We're just having a discussion on his game. 1/15/2015 3:18:55 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
I rage on anyone for using ONLY statistics 1/15/2015 3:25:53 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Who dislikes him?" |
Apparently, you.
Quote : | "Cat is a fucking dunce
He has no idea how to think his way through defenses and makes the same mistakes over and over and over again" |
Quote : | "I wonder how much wants it. He doesn't show the traits of a great player imo. He's more concerned with bitches and shoes than he is with working on his jumper. He was the worst player on the floor for us vs Boise, and then two hours later he's on stage at some show and posting it on instagram. I wish he would post a video of him going straight to the Dail Center and getting up some shots instead. We all know that's never going to happen." |
Quote : | "It should be pretty clear that in this earlier going, Cat hasn't improved like we anticipated and his play is currently got this team mired in mediocrity." | ]1/15/2015 3:33:09 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Hey, this is an Appreciation thread, guy 1/15/2015 3:44:52 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Everyone of those things is true. The guy isn't a good point guard. He'll never sniff the league.
But hey, Cat has some sort of immunity with this fan base where he can do no wrong despite being mired in mediocrity.
[Edited on January 15, 2015 at 4:05 PM. Reason : But I'm the bad guy for saying it... I can live with that.] 1/15/2015 4:04:21 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
that "bitches and shoes" take nearly melted my screen it was so hot 1/15/2015 4:19:57 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
It's definitely true that he cares more about shoes than his jump shot. You've probably had a conversation with him to discuss things of that nature.
[Edited on January 15, 2015 at 4:21 PM. Reason : he probably routinely skips practice to go to Foot Locker to try on new kicks] 1/15/2015 4:21:02 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Sometimes I really wonder what some of the posters are like in real life, when they're not on the internet 1/15/2015 4:37:14 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Ribs is just being HONEST 1/15/2015 5:21:39 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Cat's ability to draw fouls is very good, I do wish he would drive to the basket more." |
couldn't agree more with this. lacey did a good job of this in the 2nd half last night when he wasn't having a good shooting night. really wish cat would do it more1/15/2015 6:19:01 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
All the condolences
Tough time for Cat 1/17/2015 6:10:05 PM |
Sandman All American 1215 Posts user info edit post |
A homeless man's rajon rondo is his ceiing 1/17/2015 6:43:24 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
damn, that sucks for him. his little brother? that's gotta be rough. 1/17/2015 6:57:45 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
gopack doesn't even mention him having a brother
Can't understand a fucking thing he says on twitter, so I'd wait
Still sad 1/17/2015 7:31:10 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
yeah...guess it doesn't necessarily have to be his brother. just somebody really close to him (that he may refer to as "little brother) 1/17/2015 8:02:23 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder if it happened today or last night. Otherwise seems odd that he would travel with team. 1/17/2015 9:46:39 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Gott said in the postgame Cat found out about 2 this morning, when they were already there. 1/17/2015 10:15:44 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder if they died of cancer?
I'll show myself out. 1/18/2015 9:37:11 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
sounds like a close friend of his was murdered. 1/18/2015 12:21:33 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
Still not credible.
For everyone that says, "it's not all on him," fuck right off. Of course he's not the sole reason for a loss, but he's the one player you can count on to suck shit more often than not. Leading the team in turnovers, especially as a point guard, while making bone headed plays nonstop is nothing to be proud of.
Credit where it's due; he's quick and can play great defense.
I'd like to see a diagram of where his made shots are on the court. Does that exist? 1/22/2015 10:53:05 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Leading the team in turnovers, especially as a point guard" |
Point guards often are team leaders in turnovers since they handle the ball so much, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say.1/22/2015 10:58:42 PM |