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rflong
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Woot woot for 8 assists, 1 TO. Suck it haters...

12/17/2014 9:48:16 PM

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12/17/2014 10:09:26 PM

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Qualities of Cancer: HONEST

12/17/2014 10:10:56 PM

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bump for tonight.

great game, especially second half

12/23/2014 10:25:25 PM

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i'm a big fan of cat. have been, and continue to be.

12/24/2014 12:42:58 AM

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Notice all of his so called "breakout" games come against mid majors. Our previous pgs had great games against elite competition.

12/25/2014 4:15:27 PM

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Honest

12/25/2014 4:54:46 PM

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^^ By that logic, Javi was a legend.

12/25/2014 5:26:39 PM

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^^^ pretty sure that's why analysts call nc state "pg U!"

All those dominating efforts over powerhouses by our long legacy of top notch PG. Cat has some big shoes to fill.

12/25/2014 9:03:45 PM

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Maybe im just being biased but those guys all had games they took over against top teams. Lewis vs miami.

12/29/2014 1:51:10 PM

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Best flopper in The country

#creditwhereitsdue

12/30/2014 4:52:24 PM

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liked his offense in the second half. he was basically our only offense all game

12/30/2014 6:17:44 PM

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He is the ONLY damn reason we didn't lose by 30 points plus.

12/31/2014 2:10:32 AM

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Robinson would have murdered Lewis

but seriously, another good game by Cat

1/3/2015 2:04:06 PM

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Much appreciated! Another solid game by Cat!

1/3/2015 2:06:18 PM

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As much as I cursed him in the first half, Cat was pretty solid in the 2nd half controlling the game despite not showing much in the box score.

1/12/2015 9:31:29 AM

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lol Cat making Sulaimon so mad with the flops.

1/12/2015 9:36:42 AM

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After watching recaps of the game I figured out what his problem is. In the half court offense the other team's defense is set so he can't use his explosive speed, he needs high screens set for him and GOOD ones. There are only low screens set primary for Turner,and Barber has few lanes to drive to due to the poor spacing. Reference the Miami and Duke game and watch how many high screens were set for their quick point guard to get into the lanes for easy buckets. Barber doesn't have none of this and this is something Gottfried should work on immediately.

1/15/2015 12:15:57 PM

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^yup. Cat could be effective in the right scheme. What we're running right now does a guy with his skillset 0 favors.

1/15/2015 12:31:05 PM

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He's incredibly easy to defend because he doesn't have a prayer of making a jumper with any regularity.

They can just go under every screen and beat him to the spot with 0 fear of him actually pulling up and shooting.

Until he shows he can actually make a wide open shot he's never going to be effective in ANY offense, no just State's.

1/15/2015 12:38:30 PM

wolfpack2105
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You can be an effective point guard without a 3 point shot. Cat can hit the mid range jumper with decent effectiveness.

1/15/2015 1:33:22 PM

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Of course you can be, but Cat isn't. Kendall Marshall is a great example of this, but KM was diming people up all over the court by making great individual plays in the form of passes. That's how you influence games when you can't score.

Every now and then he'll shoot from the elbow, but he the fact remains he has a broke jumper and other teams are daring him to shoot it now.

You fan feel him trying to wish it in the basket the few times he actually does square up.

[Edited on January 15, 2015 at 2:13 PM. Reason : ...]

1/15/2015 2:10:51 PM

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He has a true shooting percentage of 54% and an effective shooting percentage of 48%. I couldn't find any stats about mid-range jumpers versus layups, but you make it sound like he's never hit a jumper.

1/15/2015 2:15:44 PM

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"Until he shows he can actually make a wide open shot he's never going to be effective in ANY offense, no just State's."


Is his confidence just completely gone or what? Dude does not even look to shoot a 3 at all. Teams are pretty much daring him to. I wish he would develop his 3 and he could be really good.

1/15/2015 2:18:04 PM

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I'd love to see how many of those shots are actually outside of 12 feet.

Somebody also point out the next time a defender tries to fight over the top because they're afraid Cat is going to pull up please. We might be waiting a while.

1/15/2015 2:18:47 PM

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http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/north-carolina-state/2015.html

His PER is 11th on the team

Freeman's PER is god awful.

Cat's ability to draw fouls is very good, I do wish he would drive to the basket more.

And lol at Anya's block percentage. He blocks 16% of the 2 point field goals attempted while he's in the game. Not 16% of the shots he tries to block, but 16% of every shot attempted while he's on the floor. And 18.5% in only conference games.

Also, Chris Brickhouse is the new Jevoni. Ultra efficient in garbage time against other scrubs.

[Edited on January 15, 2015 at 2:29 PM. Reason : add another note]

1/15/2015 2:25:57 PM

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You used to rage on Rally for citing basketball analytics, now here we are.

[Edited on January 15, 2015 at 2:46 PM. Reason : ..]

1/15/2015 2:45:19 PM

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Cat's got a good jumper. Obviously he needs to work on his 3, but he's pretty good inside the arc. I really like his pull-up but he hasn't been doing that as much recently for some reason.

1/15/2015 3:07:50 PM

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cat barber is not an all conference caliber pg. but thats no reason to dislike him. he never made any promises he isnt keeping. i appreciate what he is doing for the team.

1/15/2015 3:13:01 PM

Ribs
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Who dislikes him? We're just having a discussion on his game.

1/15/2015 3:18:55 PM

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I rage on anyone for using ONLY statistics

1/15/2015 3:25:53 PM

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Quote :
"Who dislikes him?"


Apparently, you.

Quote :
"Cat is a fucking dunce

He has no idea how to think his way through defenses and makes the same mistakes over and over and over again"

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"I wonder how much wants it. He doesn't show the traits of a great player imo. He's more concerned with bitches and shoes than he is with working on his jumper. He was the worst player on the floor for us vs Boise, and then two hours later he's on stage at some show and posting it on instagram. I wish he would post a video of him going straight to the Dail Center and getting up some shots instead. We all know that's never going to happen."

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"It should be pretty clear that in this earlier going, Cat hasn't improved like we anticipated and his play is currently got this team mired in mediocrity."

1/15/2015 3:33:09 PM

GingaNinja
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Hey, this is an Appreciation thread, guy

1/15/2015 3:44:52 PM

Ribs
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Everyone of those things is true. The guy isn't a good point guard. He'll never sniff the league.

But hey, Cat has some sort of immunity with this fan base where he can do no wrong despite being mired in mediocrity.

[Edited on January 15, 2015 at 4:05 PM. Reason : But I'm the bad guy for saying it... I can live with that.]

1/15/2015 4:04:21 PM

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that "bitches and shoes" take nearly melted my screen it was so hot

1/15/2015 4:19:57 PM

TreeTwista10
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It's definitely true that he cares more about shoes than his jump shot. You've probably had a conversation with him to discuss things of that nature.

[Edited on January 15, 2015 at 4:21 PM. Reason : he probably routinely skips practice to go to Foot Locker to try on new kicks]

1/15/2015 4:21:02 PM

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Sometimes I really wonder what some of the posters are like in real life, when they're not on the internet

1/15/2015 4:37:14 PM

GingaNinja
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Ribs is just being HONEST

1/15/2015 5:21:39 PM

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"Cat's ability to draw fouls is very good, I do wish he would drive to the basket more."


couldn't agree more with this. lacey did a good job of this in the 2nd half last night when he wasn't having a good shooting night. really wish cat would do it more

1/15/2015 6:19:01 PM

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All the condolences

Tough time for Cat

1/17/2015 6:10:05 PM

Sandman
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A homeless man's rajon rondo is his ceiing

1/17/2015 6:43:24 PM

dmspack
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damn, that sucks for him. his little brother? that's gotta be rough.

1/17/2015 6:57:45 PM

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gopack doesn't even mention him having a brother

Can't understand a fucking thing he says on twitter, so I'd wait

Still sad

1/17/2015 7:31:10 PM

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yeah...guess it doesn't necessarily have to be his brother. just somebody really close to him (that he may refer to as "little brother)

1/17/2015 8:02:23 PM

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I wonder if it happened today or last night. Otherwise seems odd that he would travel with team.

1/17/2015 9:46:39 PM

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Gott said in the postgame Cat found out about 2 this morning, when they were already there.

1/17/2015 10:15:44 PM

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I wonder if they died of cancer?

I'll show myself out.

1/18/2015 9:37:11 AM

dmspack
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sounds like a close friend of his was murdered.

1/18/2015 12:21:33 PM

jaZon
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Still not credible.

For everyone that says, "it's not all on him," fuck right off. Of course he's not the sole reason for a loss, but he's the one player you can count on to suck shit more often than not. Leading the team in turnovers, especially as a point guard, while making bone headed plays nonstop is nothing to be proud of.

Credit where it's due; he's quick and can play great defense.

I'd like to see a diagram of where his made shots are on the court. Does that exist?

1/22/2015 10:53:05 PM

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Quote :
"Leading the team in turnovers, especially as a point guard"


Point guards often are team leaders in turnovers since they handle the ball so much, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

1/22/2015 10:58:42 PM

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