Hey. Good news for both sides:

It looks like this intensified attention to police actions is likely going to lead to a lot less officers being immune to the laws they enforce.

Nobody thinks thats a bad thing right?

12/9/2014 3:08:24 PM

I mean I dont get what cop in their right mind would do anything that could be considered excessive force right now knowing the media will find out about it and they will be scrutinized. Even if you manage to get off, having your name dragged through the mud all over the country has to make the rest of your life more difficult.

12/9/2014 3:13:45 PM

It won't change nothing. If people can watch a man get choked to death, and not indict because of the color of his skin, do you really think some news stories pointing out what everyone already knows is going to make a difference?

12/9/2014 3:14:18 PM

Since no one reads the bottom of the previous page

Quote :

"Call about domestic violence, cop punches woman in the face. State patrol said his punch was against policy, prosecutor refused to prosecute. http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2014/12/06/pkg-cop-punch-caught-on-camera.king.html All captured on tape."

Cops don't care about what the media has to say. As long as they know no prosecutor that wants to keep his job is going to prosecute a cop, they will continue beating the shit out of Americans.

If I went home right now, and my GF kicked me, and I hit her like that cop hit that woman, where would I be?

[Edited on December 9, 2014 at 3:17 PM. Reason : Downtown, locked the fuck up]

12/9/2014 3:16:35 PM

I mean if I had been accused of being a racist asshole who killed someone for no reason I damn sure wouldnt wanna be walking around in public much.

12/9/2014 3:17:05 PM

Quote :

"cop in their right mind"

I think I have found the issue.

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

12/9/2014 3:23:03 PM

^^^I think the general consensus is...homegirl shouldn't have kicked ya boy. This isn't anywhere near a level of absurdity as the other recent examples of police brutality. Let's try another one.

12/9/2014 5:50:20 PM

yeah that's a load of shit. try passing that off if mr punchy mchitawoman wasn't a cop, he'd be in jail son. which is exactly where that bitch ass cop needs to be.

12/9/2014 7:49:07 PM

the difference is a normal person can walk away. a cop is expected to subdue the suspect.

12/9/2014 7:59:19 PM

no, the difference is that a cop can hide behind the badge, and a civilian has to be responsible for his own actions.

12/10/2014 12:54:26 PM

Handcuffed in the back of a car isn't subdued enough for cops, gotta break a orbital bone to put womenz in their place.

12/10/2014 1:00:00 PM

Good to see that Ray Rice can find work after his NFL contract runs up.

12/10/2014 2:02:52 PM

Ray Rice lost his job for punching his woman, but when a cop does it its ok. Ray Rice's woman was in attack mode, walking straight at him with demonic, cold, dark eyes. This woman was sitting down.

[Edited on December 10, 2014 at 2:24 PM. Reason : demonic]

12/10/2014 2:24:13 PM

did you watch the video? she was actively kicking the officer.

12/10/2014 2:33:57 PM

according to BlackJesus it's only ok to hit a woman if she gives you the stank eye

12/10/2014 2:45:35 PM

Huge man, can't subdue a woman without throwing his entire body weight into a punch? Gtfo with that cop sympathy nonsense. Janae was actively attacking Ray, didn't stop you people from calling for his head when he defended himself.

12/10/2014 2:50:30 PM

...or you could say the bitch kicked you and get away without penalty.

12/10/2014 4:49:13 PM

Lol@ white people:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/12/09/whites-are-more-confident-than-ever-that-their-police-treat-blacks-fairly/

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2010/07/11/how_facts_backfire/

12/11/2014 1:06:43 AM

Lol @ people from gang rape capital of the world pointing fingers

12/11/2014 1:28:52 AM

http://www.cleveland.com/cleveland-heights/index.ssf/2014/12/cleveland_heights_cop_draws_gu.html#incart_m-rpt-1

Cleveland seems to have one of the absolute worst police departments

12/16/2014 1:49:28 PM

if he was black that man would be dead.

Cleveland is shit, so not surprised that their PD is shit as well.

12/16/2014 9:14:37 PM

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/exonerated-after-execution-judge-tosses-teens-murder-conviction-n270176

relevant

12/17/2014 4:03:03 PM

Electrocuted an 14 year old, while fighting a war to stop Hitler from exterminating Jews. Because killing jews was wrong, but killing a black kid for being black is/was ok. America is a country built on hypocrisy.

12/17/2014 4:19:45 PM

that's the kind of post that brings me back to chitchat everytime. gold

12/17/2014 4:45:44 PM

^^not hypocrisy, Jews are white. durrrrrr

12/17/2014 5:13:38 PM

jews are arguably more powerful than "whites"

12/17/2014 5:16:29 PM

^except when they were being exterminated. then the US "white" knighted

12/17/2014 5:21:02 PM

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" 14 was the legal age of criminal responsibility in the state."

let's reinstate this

12/17/2014 6:37:14 PM

12/17/2014 9:23:42 PM

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=87912848

12/17/2014 10:23:32 PM

how has no-one posted this?
http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/09/05/white-guy-points-gun-police-happens-next-unbelievable/


12-year old black kid with bb gun fatally shot twice in 2 seconds...grown ass white man with a real gun pointing it at cops intentionaly wounded once after talking for over an hr.

12/18/2014 7:58:40 AM

Thanks for posting that.

12/18/2014 8:12:55 AM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-cleveland-road-to-recovery-on-policing-is-filled-with-challenges-entrenchment/2014/12/16/2977dda8-8243-11e4-81fd-8c4814dfa9d7_story.html

interesting read on policing in cleveland

holy shit at this:

Quote :

"In 2012, Timothy Russell and Malissa Williams, two black residents, led police on a short chase. It began when the two drove past a police officer who believed a gun had been fired from the vehicle. The chase ended in a school parking lot. Surrounded by officers, the two were killed in a hail of 137 bullets fired by 13 of the more than 100 officers involved in the chase. One officer emptied two 16-bullet clips, reloaded a third time and then leapt onto the hood of the vehicle and fired bullets through the windshield. Russell and Williams were unarmed. Their car had backfired."

12/18/2014 8:48:18 AM

State sponsored police gang

12/18/2014 8:52:03 AM

12/29/2014 11:51:32 PM

TTT



Lets watch this off duty cop man handle a woman.

1/1/2015 5:31:48 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/georgia-police-chief-says-accidentally-shot-wife-000816951--abc-news-topstories.html

Cop "accidentally" shot his wife. *cough bullshit cough*

1/1/2015 8:58:43 PM

^ hold on, we don't have all the facts

Reports are in that he was a toddler at the time of the incident.

1/1/2015 9:02:11 PM

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"One officer emptied two 16-bullet clips"

They are called magazines. not clips...

And rounds. not bullets.

[Edited on January 1, 2015 at 9:48 PM. Reason : .]

1/1/2015 9:48:22 PM

^yeah that's the only thing that's wrong with that quote piece of text.

1/1/2015 10:46:40 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/02/justice/georgia-police-chief-wife/index.html

"I was sleep when I shot her" bullshit. Murder

1/3/2015 1:36:56 PM

Quote :

"he was sleeping when he moved a gun in the bed"

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

[Edited on January 3, 2015 at 1:51 PM. Reason : ^how do you gloss over this crucial detail LOL]

1/3/2015 1:50:56 PM

1/3/2015 2:41:45 PM

So, a new report is out which says

Rice had his hands in his pocket

Rice wasn't reaching for the pellet gun

Less than a second elapsed from pulling up to shooting

The cop car windows were up, meaning no warning could be heard by rice if the cops yelled them out

Contrary to police statements, no lengthy ( or any) dialog took place between the police and rice





It's sounding more and more like they just rolled up and shot the kid

12/6/2015 6:11:06 PM

I still don't understand how this wasn't a bigger deal than it was

he was a kid who didn't even have a chance to say anything

12/6/2015 6:14:48 PM

I had to kind of reread the the thread to get an idea of the viewpoints back then


Looks like people were justifying the cop by saying the gun looked real, and saying Rice should have put the gun down when told

12/6/2015 6:46:20 PM

^^^ this all was pretty plain in the video, but glad to see it's on paper now.

^^ This and John Crawford are the worst of these videos to me. It's nuts what cops (used to?) get away with.

12/6/2015 10:14:00 PM

^^^, ^ yeah the Crawford one is very troubling, and the Tamir Rice one is absolutely mind boggling. I think that's the very worst one.

I can't figure it out...the wrong cases keep getting the attention.

People paid HUGE attention to Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown, and people absolutely lost their shit over those. In my opinion, Zimmerman is a dipshit and an asshole, but likely didn't do anything illegal that night, and even if he did, it almost certainly wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt, so I think the right thing happened there. Michael Brown...as best as I could tell, the cop who shot that motherfucker should get a bonus.

Meanwhile, cops just come hauling ass up to a kid holding a toy gun and smoke him before he had time to react, and it gets just a relatively passing mention in the news?


Even when people get it right on which cases to protest, they fuck up WHAT to protest. I just realized a week or two about why people were pissed about the Chicago thing. My take was, "They charged the cop with 1st degree murder. Hell, if anything, 1st degree is over-aggressive by the prosecutors. What the hell are you pissed at?" The fact that he fired 16 times has very little to do with things.

Then I realized that the problem is the cover-up, and that's very troubling...but even I, who listed to NPR for 2+ hours per day, and most of the TV I watch is news, had missed the important part, because all I'd heard was the bullshit about "16 shots."

[Edited on December 6, 2015 at 10:46 PM. Reason : There is a problem, but it seems like all the wrong incidents and aspects are the ones emphasized]

12/6/2015 10:44:52 PM

Of the cops who are convicted, I'd love to see numbers on how many of them are quietly released on appeal for "prosecutorial misconduct" or whatever.

12/6/2015 11:07:30 PM

^^I listen to NPR a lot too and multiple times I heard them say they were resisting releasing the tape until someone tipped off a reporter (or someone with an org) and they requested it through the courts.

Quote :

"Meanwhile, cops just come hauling ass up to a kid holding a toy gun and smoke him before he had time to react, and it gets just a relatively passing mention in the news?"

I think I remember NPR brought this up in a news story. IIRC, the gist of it is that the Cleveland police has a better relationship with the black community there. So there were fairly tame protests, which means nothing is burning, which means CNN doesn't care.

Quote :

"My take was, "They charged the cop with 1st degree murder. Hell, if anything, 1st degree is over-aggressive by the prosecutors. What the hell are you pissed at?" "

They only charged him after 14 months and being forced to release the tape. That's not swift action by any means. If they were as troubled by the video as they claim, charges would've been filed a lot sooner.

Quote :

"The fact that he fired 16 times has very little to do with things."

I disagree. The issue is still that the cop killed someone who posed no threat to him at the time. Even if he had been charged a week after the incident the sheer brutality in that video would have people out in the streets.

12/7/2015 12:31:44 AM