Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, you must be thinking of annoying Boston a-hole Dan Shaughnessy. 10/28/2015 9:53:11 PM |
sonofa All American 943 Posts user info edit post |
When i see or think of Bernie, I see Bob Ryan.
I'm just giving an everyman perspective to the situation. And everyone hates Bahston. 10/28/2015 9:57:08 PM |
sonofa All American 943 Posts user info edit post |
Everyone hates NYC go Royals 10/28/2015 10:02:03 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
https://medium.com/@1e3d0077c3ca4df4b260e1ee0bceb6/hillary-clinton-may-have-just-committed-election-fraud-and-the-internet-found-out-part-1-bb7647415a71
Apparently there's evidence that the Clinton campaign has been directly collaborating with a PAC... which is illegal. 11/12/2015 6:39:33 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
lol a saturday debate. dnc made it too obvious... 11/12/2015 7:41:52 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
^ 11/14/2015 9:49:03 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
O'Malley is only there so Clinton doesn't actually have to engage in a debate, she doesn't have to directly address Sanders or play to the base as much/make herself look like a lefty for the general elections.
3 debates, a couple on the weekends, one of them a holiday weekend. It's absurd. 11/15/2015 1:45:13 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Just seems like a really dangerous and bad strategy by the DNC to push Hillary so much. This doesn't make sense. Kudos to hillary I guess for making friends in the right places, but this shouldn't be how our elections work. 11/15/2015 2:50:28 AM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
man I watched last night just to get an impression of Hillary but damn you Joe, a Biden/Clinton/Sanders debate would have been interesting and productive, I mean Sanders was more interesting than I thought but man we needed Joe's off the cuff emotionality to contrast with Hillary's cautious rehearsed stuff, that was just almost a waste of my time 11/15/2015 3:38:55 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/11/14/hillary_clinton_cites_9_11_women_in_defending_wall_street_donations.html 11/15/2015 10:47:48 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Apparently there's evidence that the Clinton campaign has been directly collaborating with a PAC... which is illegal." |
Quote : | "and it looks like this might involve billionaire George Soros" |
Christmas has come early. These slimeballs have been scheming with funding BLM and creating an echo chamber of liberal media racial division. Politics shouldn't work like this.11/16/2015 9:34:44 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Lol 11/16/2015 9:59:54 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
The only polls I've seen in reaction to the second debate have been of "Democrat and independent voters," but I haven't seen anything that focuses specifically on undecided likely voters. 11/17/2015 2:13:07 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
12/4/2015 12:25:59 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Lumping lawyers into it's own industry isn't very helpful 12/4/2015 12:27:55 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Yea, what if you're a law firm representing oil/gas/energy companies? 12/4/2015 2:07:07 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
it really makes the graphic useless 12/4/2015 2:42:42 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
I would like to point out that I love how Donald Trump is an industry 12/4/2015 10:12:24 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
I guess you're being sarcastic, but I'm pretty sure they listed him as an industry because (at least according to him) he's provided the majority of his own funding. 12/5/2015 12:20:40 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
fucking cnn is not even polling sanders vs republicans 12/6/2015 1:29:16 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
^The Hillary Machine, not surprised.
I found a few sources saying that while Hillary is killing it against just democrats, Bernie is faring better vs Republicans.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/261756-poll-sanders-more-electable-than-hillary-against-top
The Hill has been pretty skewed towards Bernie so I don't know how much to trust them, but Quinnipiac is usually a reliable poll: http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2307
[Edited on December 6, 2015 at 3:12 AM. Reason : -] 12/6/2015 3:11:17 AM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Fox News (and the others) did the same thing to Ron Paul in 2012. 12/6/2015 10:10:22 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Decent debate, Hillary says some things that are too blatantly partisan, no one pointed out that the rate of growth in premiums was at worst unchanged by ACA, it didn't rise because of ACA.
It seems the 2 major differences between sanders and Hillary are on single payer and boots on the ground. Omalley didn't come off so pathetic this debate, but still pretty boring. hillarys answer on racial justice was pretty weak, so was omalleys.
There was some good anti-trump sound bites all around. 12/19/2015 11:00:14 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Everyday I'm seeing more and more polls and articles negating the "Sanders is unelectable" mantra. 12/23/2015 7:41:32 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^ Fox News (and the others) did the same thing to Ron Paul in 2012." |
12/24/2015 2:26:05 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Paul didn't have the support Sanders does 12/24/2015 11:24:01 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
You must have not been paying attention in 2012, or else you've forgotten. 12/25/2015 10:17:14 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I thought Ron Paul's big wave was in 08? 12/26/2015 3:27:53 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Media donating to Clinton says Clinton won debate? Wow! 12/26/2015 5:43:24 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Sanders is very electable, the DNC clearly doesn't want a sanders candidacy. 12/27/2015 1:17:03 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Of course they don't. Shit, O'Malley is only on these faux debates so that Clinton doesn't actually have to debate Bernie or directly compare and contrast her views and ideas with his.
She's been the nominee for about 3 years now, it's just been a matter of waiting until 2016 for it to be official. 12/27/2015 8:46:54 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Ron Paul is not a good comparison for Sanders, a better comparison would be 2000 John McCain 12/28/2015 10:41:42 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Why not 2008 Mccain? 12/28/2015 3:15:06 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Sanders doesn't seem like the type to sell out that hard 12/28/2015 3:53:23 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
is this the new tactic of repub candidates now??
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/12/can-trump-clinton-scandal-revival-hurt-hillary.html 12/31/2015 1:34:07 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/31/martin-omalley-fails-to-qualify-for-ohio-presidential-primary-ballot/?tid=sm_tw
This is pretty sad I think, and it's not a good sign. I don't know any democrats excessively enthusiastic about Hillary, but it doesn't seem like "establishment democrats" are getting excited by anyone. Makes me wonder if we'll have record low turnout the next election. 12/31/2015 4:09:06 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
most democrats don't even know what a primary is and will start paying attention next october. 1/2/2016 10:38:33 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Is anyone going to call the pollsters/media out for their blatantly biased polling?
Trump vs Clinton Rubio vs Clinton Cruz vs Clinton
These options are included in every major poll. But what about
Trump vs Sanders Rubio vs Sanders Cruz vs Sanders
Sanders has polled stronger than Rubio and Cruz so why doesn't he get included in any general electron polling?
How can they get away with polling like this? 1/10/2016 7:17:17 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
^http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/261756-poll-sanders-more-electable-than-hillary-against-top
Quote : | "Sanders leads Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) by 10 points, businessman Donald Trump by 8 points, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson by 6 points and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) by 1 point in the poll.
Clinton also leads the top four Republican candidates, but by slightly smaller margins. She leads Cruz by 5 points, Trump by 6 points, Carson by 3 points and Rubio by 1 point in the survey." |
1/11/2016 1:45:20 AM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Sanders is making huge gains this week. Dominating in New Hampshire, winning some polls in Iowa. Its on. 1/12/2016 2:00:09 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
It's going to be awesome seeing the DNC torpedo Sanders even if he brings the most delegates to the convention. It will be a nice eye opener when people realize that they don't actually get to pick the candidates.
Hopefully something like that, especially if it happens at BOTH conventions will be crippling for the 2 major parties in terms of membership. Unfortunately they're so entrenched I doubt it will lead to the rise or growth of other parties. Probably just more independents and even less popular influence on the Dems and Repubs. 1/12/2016 4:25:41 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
The only thing that will give way for 3rd party candidates is alternative/ranked/automated runoff balloting.
1/13/2016 5:01:09 AM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, with the way things are currently structured a 3 way race is not viable. The death or fading of one of the major parties is possible. It's highly unlikely, but possible. Many people are disillusioned with the parties we have now. 1/13/2016 3:22:02 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder what a Trump and Sanders third party run would do to things (obviously separate campaigns, not those two on the same ticket). That would have to be the best chance we would have to see a third party candidate win it just because of how watered down the votes would be. 1/14/2016 2:34:36 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Clinton will not run third party and Sanders will have the nomination 1/14/2016 3:50:05 PM |
ScubaSteve All American 5523 Posts user info edit post |
From a chit chat thread but it belongs here. The realistic reason I support Bernie Sanders because either way nothing will change. Bernie Sanders as president would propose lots of stuff tons of people would like to see done and nothing would happen. Or Hillary will propose lots of half measures that some will like and the house of Representatives will burn her in effigy and nothing will happen. Compared to A Hillary presidency, the Obama years look like Obama and the republicans were sitting down singing kum by ya. Republicans have been preparing for a Hillary run for decades almost, which means a vote for Hillary in the primaries is what republicans want really... Huge turn out of tons of people that hate Hillary with every fiber of their being and Democratic voters going meh..I don't need to vote for her she'll win anyway.. As long as ol trump doesnt strike the fear of doom in the democrats to go vote.Wow long post for chit chat.. 1/14/2016 8:28:06 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Why not 2008 Mccain?" |
Because fuck '08 McCain.
2000 McCain=great...then he went full-retard right-wing idiotic GOP in 2008. Well, maybe not full by 2015 standards, but...pretty fucking full. I voted for him in the primary in '08, then mailed in an absentee ballot from Iraq just to write in "none of the above" in the general.
Also, why would 2k McCain be a better analogy for Sanders than Ron Paul? I think Ron Paul is a pretty good analogy--quirky weirdo personality, silly pipe dream ideas, ideologue rather than pragmatist, cult following.
The difference is less between them as candidates and more than Ron Paul never competed in a primary that featured 2 (or maybe arguably 2.5, or 2.1) candidates running. If the Dems had fielded a group of serious contenders and not just basically deferred to Hillary Clinton, Sanders would be Ron Paul--hanging in there with his core supporters, but not really a factor.
Quote : | "Everyday I'm seeing more and more polls and articles negating the "Sanders is unelectable" mantra." |
Right, they're polls of likely voters in the Democratic primary.1/15/2016 12:39:55 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Sanders is the only candidate with policy ideas even remotely close to where we need to be to sail through the automation revolution, which we're already in the midst of, but will ramp up over the next 8+ years.
His trade policies still worry me, but his domestic vision is a necessity... otherwise I think we'll rapidly lose ground to Europe/Asia. 1/15/2016 12:46:28 AM |
RattlerRyan All American 8660 Posts user info edit post |
In the last two days, Hilary has insinuated that Bernie's adopted and step-grandchildren don't count as legitimate family members, and that he is too unhealthy to be president. I'm a diehard democrat, but I will now abstain if she wins the nomination. Fuck that bitch. 1/16/2016 7:01:09 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
How come this thread is 25% the length of the Republican Primary Thread?
didn't realize TSB was 3/4 on the right 1/17/2016 12:01:08 PM |