rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
Reminds me of Earl's insistence that our D line will be much better without a top 5 NFL draft pick 4/5/2018 4:55:28 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm not sure how losing a qb that can evade rushers, hit receivers on a dime 50 yds downfield and requires a spy every play would make OL and WR look BETTER" |
OL always say it's easier to protect a pocket passer than a mobile QB. You know your assignment and you know where your QB's launch point is designed to be. With Jackson, he was breaking out of the pocket regularly and it puts extra pressure on your tackles. He also held the ball too long at times which also puts pressure on the OL. This often leads to more holds. I'm not saying their OL is going to become elite or anything, I just think their job will be easier and they could have more success in pass protection with a pocket passer at QB.
Lamar didn't hit hardly anything on a dime. He missed plenty of deep throws last year and he put too much heat on short passes(Cam style) which led to drops(particularly on slants). Once again, not saying they're going to have All-ACC WRs, just saying that I think a more accurate passer who works within the system more instead of free-lancing could make the WRs look better.
We know Pitino has a good system, it's just that he abandoned that the last 2 years because he had one of the best players in the country and wanted to take advantage of that.4/6/2018 8:00:28 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
He completed 60% of his passes and was 12th in the nation in yards per attempt
Plus the OL and WR will have to deal with one extra man in coverage or pass rushing next season. So those WRs that he missed will be less open and those OL might know where the QB is but they are blocking an extra man 4/6/2018 9:04:40 AM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Spring game today, wonder how attendance will be on a cool rainy day? 4/7/2018 12:34:10 PM |
beatsunc All American 10748 Posts user info edit post |
i want to watch on espn 3 but even tho i has a spectrum password with espn it auto logs in with my spectrum account with no espn 4/7/2018 1:02:43 PM |
JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
any thoughts on the spring game? 4/7/2018 6:09:02 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
Offense looks good...DBs look bad...typical for DD.
Harmon and Finley will put up a lot of yards this year.
Pratt will lead the team in tackles. 4/7/2018 6:19:28 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
^^^yup...seems theyve adjusted something to where it picks up your internet and is able to tell if you have it or not. The only device i can do the old trick of using someone elses sign in to watchespn is on my phone where i can disconnect the wifi and use data 4/8/2018 9:08:33 AM |
titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
Am I crazy or did the helmets they wore look gigantic? 4/8/2018 1:11:16 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
No, you aren't crazy. The helmets have a soft(er) outer layer to lessen impacts. They've worn them all spring. 4/8/2018 1:47:13 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ you can log in on data then turn wifi back on I think. Done it before, unless they changed something 4/8/2018 5:30:12 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
i called a while back. they are having issues with spectrum customers 4/8/2018 5:48:12 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "any thoughts on the spring game?" |
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justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
The offense scored more than the defense. 4/8/2018 5:55:58 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
a lot of key guys were out. DD said we are nowhere near where will be when guys are healthy. 4/8/2018 6:11:24 PM |
titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "No, you aren't crazy. The helmets have a soft(er) outer layer to lessen impacts. They've worn them all spring.
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Thanks just making sure. Felt like I was watching Lord Helmet out there. But if it helps with head injuries all for it.4/8/2018 8:06:59 PM |
themayor All American 1473 Posts user info edit post |
The only question that matters: How’d the kicker do? 4/8/2018 10:27:56 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Believe Dunn made all of his kicks. There was little-to-no crowd noise but pretty miserable conditions.
Think you'll see Bambard on kickoffs and Dunn on FG/XPs this year. 4/9/2018 9:07:45 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
but how good is dunn at fakes? 4/9/2018 9:15:07 AM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
Hope we fake an injury with him so bambard can come in for the fake FG, then later Dunn comes back in for FGs 4/9/2018 12:31:18 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/22732311/what-64-team-college-football-bracket-look-2018 nc state has us making noise in the 64 team playoff bracketology picks 4/13/2018 2:50:18 AM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
11 seed? They think we're gonna be a team in the 40's or so this season huh...hopefully we're better than that 4/13/2018 11:30:04 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
That's actually not unreasonable given our attrition on defense(tons of experience) and offense(2 best OL, best RB, best weapon).
Would be a hell of a year if we managed to be a top 25 team, so I'd say 25-45 is probably the right range for us at this point. 4/16/2018 9:12:54 AM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
^ I agree, have been pretty surprised with expectations thus far. We aren't a perennial top 5 recruiting team like Bama, Clemson, or Ohio State to just reload with overwhelming young talent to replace all that experience we just lost 4/16/2018 9:30:41 AM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
Losing Hines hurt the most. We struggled without him last year. Otherwise, I would expect to get better. The defense lost a lot but can't get much worse. The overall defensive unit will likely be better even if the dline isn't as good. The coaching improvement should help a lot but personel wise, our defense performed at its floor last year. I'm actually hoping we can get our defense back to 2016 levels but its likely to be somewhere between 2016 and 2017.
Its really all going to come down to how well Meyers, Person, Gallapsy and whoever else can fill the samuels/hines roles.
[Edited on April 16, 2018 at 8:34 PM. Reason : its not really about people. its about performance.] 4/16/2018 8:32:08 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
I agree, losing Hines was a crucial loss, but I think Will Richardson was a substantial loss too. Had we brought both of those guys back, I'd feel like we had a legit shot to push for a top 25 team if we stayed healthy and caught some breaks.
I think our defense is going to be a work in progress. I imagine early on we're going to have some really tough games(I just don't see a way we beat WVU) with the learning curve starting so many new players, but I could see a situation where by the end of the year our team is really building some momentum and getting better.
DL should take a step back from ability and experience. LB are more athletic but less experienced. CBs are more athletic but less experienced. Ss are the same guys we had last year.
I think once we actually get some of that experience along the DL, LBs, and CBs, we could be really good. But this does seem like PRiv's last year where we have the potential for a really potent offense but the defense is going to be very talented but very young.
Our OL was getting worked a bit by our DL in the Spring Game...and our starting 2 DT's were out of the game. Hopefully the OL will get it together in Fall camp. 4/17/2018 9:22:38 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Ss are the same guys we had last year." |
No Boone.
Quote : | "CBs are more athletic but less experienced." |
Alston and Stevens both ran 4.5 40s. Not sure their other measurables, but not slouches
[Edited on April 17, 2018 at 9:34 AM. Reason : E]4/17/2018 9:30:35 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
^Boone played Nickel, so I lumped him with CBs. He'll be replaced by a transfer, so could be some new blood and probably a better fit at the position.
Our FS and SS 2-deep will be the same as last year.
Alston was a converted WR who only played the position for 1 year. Steven was a solid player but seemed to always be dealing with injuries.
Aside from Trowell, we actually have a platoon of guys who have actually played CB for several years and are also athletic. Valdez would have been a starter last year for most of the season if he didn't get hurt, McCloud started quite a bit, Ingram started and played some, etc. Then add in some of the young guys like 4* Graves(early enrollee) and4* Palmer, then the JUCO in Miller, hard not to think our CBs could be better overall once they pick up some in-game experience. 4/17/2018 11:29:27 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
Ah I thought nickels would go with safeties since Boone is a career safety. Boone prob played half his snaps at safety last year.
Also that CB stuff is the opposite of what you first said. You first said we lose experience but then talk about how inexperienced our CBS were vs how experienced they are now. I'm also hesitant to call practice time "experience" especially since Valdez was hurt all year.
Stephen Griffin is playing nickel too btw, maybe that's an upgrade. I think agree SS should be same problem better. I think CBs and FS are a question mark. Have to see if McCloud can produce as full time starter, who steps up next to him, and if Kidd Glass or Wright can step up to be full time FS, since i think both were benched/demoted late last year
[Edited on April 17, 2018 at 12:16 PM. Reason : E] 4/17/2018 12:05:15 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
"Less experienced", meant mainly in college games. I mean Alston had at least played 3 seasons of college football and redshirted a year, so he knew the speed of the game and we physically ready to contribute, he just had to learn the position. Stevens had a ton of experience but really think the injuries held him back last year.
McCloud and Ingram both played a decent amount last year, and Valdez was slated to play a ton of minutes so it should speak to what type of players the coaches think he is. Hopefully he can come back healthy. Though I saw Trowell was starting in the Spring game, hoping he is either a revelation at the position or that we have someone else beat him out for the gig and he's more of a depth guy.
I guess I could see NB being lumped in with the safeties, esp. in our scheme versus a more traditional NFL look where we basically play a LB/S hybrid as our 5th defensive back. 4/17/2018 1:37:37 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Trinity and TX lots are under contract for sale and will no longer be available. Sad day. A lot of good memories were made in those lots. 4/18/2018 4:10:21 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
Also a sad day because where the hell are all those people going to park? 4/18/2018 4:34:00 PM |
JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
Is there a map of the area that sold? Does it include the land with the two houses? 4/19/2018 9:06:26 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
I'm going to say yes. I believe the State owns the faculty/staff parking area immediately beside trinity lot. Everything past that (two houses/all the grass parking) is what has been sold. 4/19/2018 9:45:29 AM |
JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
gotcha...good to know since I've been in faculty/staff the past 2 years 4/19/2018 9:52:57 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
So seriously, where are all those fans going to park now? Are they creating new parking areas, or are they expecting people to park and ride?
That's really going to take away a lot of the game day experience. It going to suck.
[Edited on April 19, 2018 at 10:06 AM. Reason : ] 4/19/2018 10:05:27 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
What do you want the university to do about it? Spend millions of dollars to outbid a real estate developer?
Yeah, it sucks for tailgating, but you can't fault the landowners for wanting to make bank. 4/19/2018 10:36:08 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
I just asked a question and expressed an opinoin, i'm not faulting the university.
But I'm seriously wondering where all those fans are going to park. It's a legitimate question. That's a lot of cars. 4/19/2018 11:00:38 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
the university or state owns enough undeveloped land in that same area to offset the loss of parking, there is ~15 acres between close-king and blue ridge south of westchase and another 8ish acres north of westchase beside the practice lots. and the NCDOT and SHP properties are at least 10 acres that could maybe be traded for land somewhere else if it came to that in the future (i'm sure the vet school would want the SHP lot at some point)
it will suck and i'm worried it will change the nature of tailgating, but there is enough space there for parking if they want to use it.
as long as it's not parking decks i think we will be okay
[Edited on April 19, 2018 at 11:31 AM. Reason : .] 4/19/2018 11:30:48 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah talking about 1500+ parking spots, but I think we can offset it, it's just more the "tradition" those 2 lots held more than anything.
I do wonder why someone would bid "top dollar" for those parking lots. Good chunk of land but I'm not sure I'd love living in that area given the traffic concerns around the State Fair, concerts, basketball, football, and hockey. 4/19/2018 1:16:08 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
It's not tradition. It's just those were the best tailgating spots because it's where the unwashed masses parked. Also you could pee in the woods. 4/19/2018 1:50:12 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Nah, it's tradition. Why do you always want to argue trivial things? 4/19/2018 2:02:27 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
Peeing on the house with the bushes for cover was always the best place to go 4/19/2018 2:13:20 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
https://247sports.com/college/north-carolina-state/Article/Dave-Doeren-names-Chris-Dunn-NC-States-starting-kicker-for-2018-117496085 4/19/2018 2:55:46 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
Thank you baby Jesus 4/19/2018 3:07:40 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
There hasn't been a question who the starting kicker would be heading into next year for over a year(since Dunn committed). Barring an injury he was going to be "the guy".
One report was that he hadn't missed a single kick in the Spring, not sure if that still holds now but this was the report going into the Spring game(that he also didn't miss in). Once again, this is all practice, and reportedly Bambard was solid in practice too. Will be interesting to see how he does in live-action and after a miss. 4/19/2018 3:21:26 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
This is nothing new...but damn, Dunn is gonna have the highest expectations/most pressure to perform of any true freshmen football player at State in recent memory imo. There’s been plenty of heralded recruits but I think most fans are reasonable about what to expect from a true freshman at other positions 4/19/2018 3:46:34 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
bambards kicks werent just pressure kicks but they were momentus occasions. that clemson kick had the weight of 30 years of nc state athletics on his shoulders. prollly the most pressurized kick in recent college football history. even kicking for a national title would be less because its something the fans of those schools have already experienced. 4/19/2018 6:14:05 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
Love u e man 4/19/2018 7:31:02 PM |
themayor All American 1473 Posts user info edit post |
Good stuff from the ACC spring football teleconference:
DD:
On D-Line:
""We have a very talented young man that we signed, Alim McNeil coming in, that's 300 pounds now. Excited about him competing at the defensive tackle spot as well. "
" We have a junior college transfer coming in, and Grant Gibson, who is a redshirt freshman, took advantage of a lot of reps this spring and improved. Shug Frazier was injured and hopefully will be back in the summer."
On RB's:
"It's too early to say. I would love to say that that's what Reggie could do(be a 3 down back). He did not go through a lot of the spring. He's limited. Just trying to take care of him a little bit here and there, and he needs to have a really good summer to be in tip-top shape to be in there as much as he can be in there."
"It's a wide open position from a rotation standpoint right now. Ricky Person who is here, graduated early, he's a very talented young running back, and 200-plus pounds of great speed. So I'm looking for Ricky to be a guy that plays early."
On Carson Wise:
"he has an injury in his leg and probably won't play again.""
https://ncstate.rivals.com/news/nc-state-football-coach-dave-doeren-updates-position-battles 4/20/2018 9:20:13 AM |