moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Aetna seems to be having the biggest problem adapting of the major providers.
I bet that's who wdprice had. 9/29/2013 11:10:44 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Of previous government shutdowns, what was the cause? Has there ever been a shutdown over trying to delay something that was already a law? 9/30/2013 6:54:16 AM |
chembob Yankee Cowboy 27011 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "McCain was born in Panama, he was a natural born citizen" |
he was also born at the Navy base in the Canal zone, which was US territory at the time.9/30/2013 8:41:33 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/item/18218-halliburton-slap-drug-offenders-prison
As good a place to put this as any AMIRITE?! 9/30/2013 10:00:31 AM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
It's almost like the GOP doesn't understand what losing an election means. Repealing Obamacare, cutting food stamps, gutting the EPA, cutting taxes on the rich, those are all things that Romney/Ryan ran their campaign on and lost badly. Yet somehow, they still feel entitled to demand all those things happen before anything else gets done. No wonder most Americans feel they are acting like spoiled children. 9/30/2013 11:29:46 AM |
A All American 1428 Posts user info edit post |
most americans disapprove of elitist obama and the job he is doing, and the republicans who care about the ordinary man are trying to get stuff done to pull us out of this economic slump (that obama doesn't even acknowledge) 9/30/2013 11:32:26 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
New Poll: Only One-Third Of Americans Support Repealing, Defunding Or Delaying Obamacare http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/09/30/new-poll-only-one-third-of-americans-support-repealing-defunding-or-delaying-obamacare/ 9/30/2013 11:34:31 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
I do not have Aetna. 9/30/2013 11:44:39 AM |
A All American 1428 Posts user info edit post |
^^ and only 26 percent believe that Congress should let the law take effect 9/30/2013 11:55:00 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
...and 12% believe it should be expanded and 29% think it should go forward with changes 9/30/2013 12:19:49 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
exactly, a majority want some form of ACA 9/30/2013 12:25:35 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
(right, i was including all the stats, since A was trying to use one stat to inaccurately demonstrate that just as many people don't want it as do want it. which isn't the case. 9/30/2013 12:37:04 PM |
nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "republicans who care about the ordinary man" |
I do not know of these republicans you speak of.9/30/2013 12:44:39 PM |
A All American 1428 Posts user info edit post |
lol the VAST majority people either want to get rid of it or significantly change it. I'm looking at the same data is you. 9/30/2013 12:53:34 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
your adding an adjective, troll
[Edited on September 30, 2013 at 1:17 PM. Reason : you're autocorrected ] 9/30/2013 12:55:28 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
SIGNIFICANTLY!!!!11 9/30/2013 1:02:55 PM |
Thunderoso All American 528 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "republicans who care about the ordinary man" |
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
thanks man i needed that9/30/2013 1:29:32 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the republicans who care about the ordinary man" |
Hey, it's ok, man. I used to believe in this too. Then I started paying attention to what the Republicans were doing...9/30/2013 1:51:09 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
A doesn't believe it either, he is a troll 9/30/2013 2:44:46 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Why is Smath74's alias allowed to troll in here?
[Edited on September 30, 2013 at 4:08 PM. Reason : X] 9/30/2013 4:07:44 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Republicans do care about the ordinary man, in the sense that the ordinary man is currently white, christian males.
This is rapidly changing however... 9/30/2013 4:11:51 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Corporations are people ordinary men too, my friend!" |
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Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Really? And here I thought that Smath was reasonable. 9/30/2013 4:17:59 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Did the government get shut down yet? 9/30/2013 5:44:01 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Compromise is choosing between A side's ideal versus B side's ideal.
If A and B agree that X is bad, but B is threatening A with X unless they get their way, it's not compromise-- it's hostage negotiations. 9/30/2013 9:02:53 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
Send the baggers home in 2014! 9/30/2013 9:51:48 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
This is pretty amazing stuff. Aaron Sorkin couldn't come up with a better movie. 9/30/2013 10:20:39 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
This is fucking pathetic and will only piss everyone off. 10/1/2013 12:32:49 AM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
I am interested in how the conservatives are bashing the ACA by saying that it is bad for Americans, but when asked to provide one single item that they don't like, they will defer to other meaningless statements without actually saying anything.
Why is this their strategy? Is it that they actually don't understand the complexities (not that likely), they don't want to go on record for being against something that may come uü in elections (proabable), or they just know that the base doesn't care about the actual details (most likely)? 10/1/2013 6:09:40 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
The irony is that ACA is funded, so health exchanges start today regardless 10/1/2013 6:21:54 AM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
Sorry GOP the hostage taking failed and this will be on you! 10/1/2013 8:09:17 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=1958
Quote : | "American voters oppose 72 - 22 percent Congress shutting down the federal government to block implementation of the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today. " |
Quote : | "Voters also oppose 64 - 27 percent blocking an increase in the nation's debt ceiling as a way to stop Obamacare, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds. " |
Quote : | "American voters disapprove 74 - 17 percent of the job Republicans in Congress are doing, their lowest score ever, and disapprove 60 - 32 percent of the job Democrats are doing.
"Americans are certainly not in love with Obamacare, but they reject decisively the claim by Congressional Republicans that it is so bad that it's worth closing down the government to stop it," said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute. " |
Quote : | "Gridlock in Washington is mainly because Republicans are determined to block any Obama initiative, 55 percent of voters say, while 33 percent blame Obama's lack of skill.
In another question, 28 percent of voters blame Republicans for gridlock, while 10 percent blame Democrats and 58 percent blame both equally. " |
Quote : | "Looking at the 2014 Congressional races, voters pick a generic Democrat over a generic Republican candidate 43 - 34 percent, the widest Democratic margin measured so far. " |
this is going to work well for republicans10/1/2013 8:16:31 AM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Monument_Syndrome
Quote : | "The Washington Monument syndrome, also known as the Mount Rushmore Syndrome, or the firemen first principle, is a political tactic used in the United States by government agencies when faced with budget cuts. The tactic entails cutting the most visible or appreciated service provided by the government, from popular services such as national parks and libraries to valued public employees such as teachers and firefighters. This is done to gain support for tax increases that the public would otherwise be against. The name derives from the National Park Service's alleged habit of saying that any cuts would lead to an immediate closure of the wildly popular Washington Monument. Critics compare the tactic to hostage taking or blackmail." |
[Edited on October 1, 2013 at 10:30 AM. Reason : ]10/1/2013 10:29:06 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
I just like how the republicans nominated the father of obamacare for president. 10/1/2013 10:52:08 AM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
The banner link on http://www.google.com is priceless right now. 10/1/2013 10:52:19 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
10/1/2013 11:08:19 AM |
A All American 1428 Posts user info edit post |
^KC mentioned that on 106.1 this morning 10/1/2013 11:55:08 AM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
The only thing making them slightly tolerable to listen to this week has been the notable absence of Carmen. Not that KC and the other guy aren't chuckleheads on their own, but that woman is beyond the pale. I do love the rabid obedience to McCrony though.... 10/1/2013 12:59:50 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
I can not stand Carmen. She is beyond loony bin worthy... maybe it's the character she plays, but it's awful and they need to permanently drop her. 10/1/2013 1:32:15 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
10/1/2013 2:34:40 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
and THAT is why they are on radio. 10/1/2013 5:50:30 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "House fails to pass 3 emergency funding bills amid government slimdown
The failed measures were treated by House GOP leaders as suspension bills, meaning they needed a two thirds majority to pass. The parks funding bill went down by a tally of 252 to 176, the veterans programs by 264 to 164 and the D.C. government funding by 265 to 163." |
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/01/waiting-game-pols-brace-for-prolonged-stalemate-amid-partial-govt-suspension/
Sooooo Republicans like national parks better than veterans?? 10/1/2013 8:49:41 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
they misspelled shutdown 10/1/2013 10:26:22 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.wral.com/king-says-cruz-conservatives-want-to-hijack-gop/12949574/ 10/2/2013 10:06:06 AM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
So now enough House Republicans have gone on record saying they would vote for a clean CR to guarantee it's passage. The only thing keeping the government shut down is Boehner's refusal to bring it to the floor for a vote. Of course, that's been the case for days but at least now it's out in the open.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/01/house-republicans-clean-cr_n_4024755.html
[Edited on October 2, 2013 at 4:41 PM. Reason : :] 10/2/2013 4:40:59 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/ted-cruz-blasted-by-angry-gop-colleagues-government-shutdown-97753.html#ixzz2gcWxOQuf
Ted Cruz: Snake Oil Salesman
[Edited on October 2, 2013 at 10:45 PM. Reason : not sure what happened there] 10/2/2013 10:27:56 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Definitive proof that Texas is full of fucking idiots. 10/2/2013 10:33:36 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
Well it is good to know Renee Ellmers will still get paid while 800,000 workers won't and people go without potentially life saving cancer drugs:
http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/10/03/3250988/dome-ellmers-keeping-congressional.html
As some North Carolina congressional lawmakers defer pay during the shutdown, GOP Rep. Renee Ellmers is refusing to do so – and her remarks are drawing the attention of an advocacy group.
“The thing of it is, I need my paycheck. That is the bottom line,” Ellmers told WTVD, the Raleigh ABC station Wednesday.
More than 70 congressional lawmakers are voluntarily not taking a salary during the partial government shutdown. Democrat David Price of Chapel Hill and Republican Robert Pittenger of Charlotte are among those donating it to the U.S. Treasury. Republicans George Holding of Raleigh, Virginia Foxx of Banner Elk and Mark Meadows of Cashiers are not accepting their pay.
Ellmers makes $175,000 a year (not including special interest money). 10/4/2013 9:13:58 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The thing of it is, I need my paycheck. That is the bottom line." |
Living from paycheck to paycheck. lol
It's amazing, and depressing, that she was able to get reelected. I guess the gerrymandering paid off.10/4/2013 9:35:18 AM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
keep in mind renee ellmers is this dipshit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc_xu7xoT6c 10/4/2013 9:43:27 AM |