How could it possibly be comfortable to read a book on your phone?

[Edited on June 29, 2010 at 2:17 PM. Reason : Obligatory 51]

6/29/2010 2:17:20 PM

Cisco Launches A Business-Focused iPad: The Cius

http://blogs.forbes.com/velocity/2010/06/29/cisco-launches-a-business-focused-ipad-the-cius/
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps11156/index.html




Interesting.

Want.

[Edited on June 29, 2010 at 2:52 PM. Reason : android based]

6/29/2010 2:22:32 PM

sexy

6/29/2010 2:23:41 PM

^^^ I regularly read books on my Droid. It's not that bad at all, actually.

6/29/2010 2:35:23 PM

So iPhone on Verizon in January. neato.

V that's what i thought too. Google "iphone verizon january".

Recent press release says differently. I've got Bloomberg at my desk and it popped up on there before most of the internet.

[Edited on June 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM. Reason : s]

6/29/2010 3:04:13 PM

i thought the verizon execs said no way in hell at their latest employee meeting...

6/29/2010 3:05:13 PM

^^you don't have to post this in 3 different threads:

it's a rumor spread by an analyst.

Verizon specifically told employees Saturday, 4 days ago, iPhone not coming to Verizon
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/06/25/rumor-verizons-big-sunday-meeting-means-name-change-and-no-iphone/

[Edited on June 29, 2010 at 3:25 PM. Reason : ,]

6/29/2010 3:25:11 PM

Everyone's seen the article from the 25th. I'm just commenting on the latest news.

-And i just wanted to see if you'd post that response in all three threads.

[Edited on June 29, 2010 at 3:27 PM. Reason : s]

6/29/2010 3:27:38 PM

What does the iPhone potentially going to Verizon have to do with Android?

6/29/2010 3:36:57 PM

^^it's like the boy who cried wolf, stop me if you've heard this before. we could have a 10 page thread on rumors that the iPhone is coming to Verizon with "unnamed sources close to the plans"

not saying it's not true, it's just hard to take seriously, until evidence is provided.

6/29/2010 3:43:59 PM

^^ummmm. The iPhone can run android? lol.

^yeah i agree.

[Edited on June 29, 2010 at 3:44 PM. Reason : s]

6/29/2010 3:44:19 PM

just read the bloomberg report on it, must have missed it earlier...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-29/verizon-wireless-said-to-start-offering-iphone-ending-at-t-s-exclusivity.html

but yeah, still just rumors...

6/29/2010 3:51:08 PM

what's a good app to turn on the LEDs on an Evo? I tried 'Droid Light' but out doesn't work for me

6/29/2010 5:18:25 PM

Samsung is having a presser at 6:30 to discuss the Galaxy S series amongst other things android I believe.

6/29/2010 5:19:08 PM

^^^ Why does everyone keep thinking the AT&T exclusivity is gonna end any minute now? I remember very clearly when the iPhone came out that it was mentioned that AT&T had a five year window of exclusivity. Not sure why no one can seem to remember this...

[Edited on June 29, 2010 at 6:33 PM. Reason : ...]

6/29/2010 6:32:49 PM

anyone else use the Chrometophone extension a lot? it's pretty handy.

also, any rumors as to when the new Market is coming, from Google I/O I think they said late 2010... can't wait to push apps to phone and browse the app store a little easier, buy music a little easier, sync a little easier...

6/29/2010 6:44:49 PM

yeah, chrome-to-phone is nice. I use it to send myself links to file downloads like kernel and theme updates.

And lol. Juice Plotter on the Droid. You can see when the cable and internet went out. Using usb tethering now while the phone charges. Blank spots in the graph are where I guess the browser was using too much resources and caused android to kill off juice plotter.




Galaxy S family




[Edited on June 29, 2010 at 8:14 PM. Reason : ]

6/29/2010 7:53:59 PM

Quote :

"what's a good app to turn on the LEDs on an Evo? I tried 'Droid Light' but out doesn't work for me."

I use LED Light.

http://www.appbrain.com/app/jp.picolyl.led_light

6/29/2010 8:20:05 PM

Quote :

"Download Terminal Explorer from Market,"

cant find this on market

6/29/2010 10:20:31 PM

Quote :

"yeah, chrome-to-phone is nice. I use it to send myself links to file downloads like kernel and theme updates."

does it work in the opposite direction, as well? first i'm hearing of this...

6/29/2010 10:24:19 PM

that's cause it only works for froyo. There's another app out that will do it for others but don't remember the name.

Samsung Fascinate (Galaxy S) for Verizon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuJIw0sl7U0

6/29/2010 10:29:18 PM

aaaaaaaand you totally didn't answer my question, bitch.

6/29/2010 10:31:09 PM

it's only 1 way

6/29/2010 10:33:27 PM

alright, that code worked for getting maps removed.

6/29/2010 10:36:01 PM

Quote :

"I remember very clearly when the iPhone came out that it was mentioned that AT&T had a five year window of exclusivity. Not sure why no one can seem to remember this..."

that's obviously not a hard fact...or there wouldn't be all these stories coming out on either side of the issue. not to mention, i've been reading plenty of articles on this issue and haven't seen any [current] mention of the 5 year thing. if you wanna enlighten us feel free to provide some links. you're sitting there acting like it's a fact but the blogs/media doesn't agree with you.

6/29/2010 11:08:35 PM

two things i'd like to figure out...

1) does anyone know of a voice recorder app that does voice to text?

2) Is there any way to speak commands to navigate without opening the google nav app? like clicking something and saying 'navigate home'?

6/29/2010 11:32:24 PM

^http://www.drivesafe.ly/ ?

6/29/2010 11:39:56 PM

Quote :

"1) does anyone know of a voice recorder app that does voice to text?"

in 2.2, just open up a note in any of the note taking apps and on the keyboard click on the microphone and speak, then just save the note. it won't record the audio but it will transcribe your voice.

Quote :

"2) Is there any way to speak commands to navigate without opening the google nav app? like clicking something and saying 'navigate home'?"

uh... you can do this with the simple microphone icon on the right side of the google search bar on your home screen, just click it and say navigate...

6/30/2010 12:05:43 AM

Quote :

"cant find this on market"

sorry, terminal emulator

6/30/2010 12:07:50 AM

Quote :

"in 2.2, just open up a note in any of the note taking apps and on the keyboard click on the microphone and speak, then just save the note. it won't record the audio but it will transcribe your voice."

don't have 2.2...but i think it works the same in 2.1 (as long as you don't have swype installed)

Quote :

"uh... you can do this with the simple microphone icon on the right side of the google search bar on your home screen, just click it and say navigate..."

uh...thanks? i guess the only thing left is to add the ability to assign an address to keywords like 'home' and 'work' (or am i missing that feature too)

6/30/2010 12:14:47 AM

ok, yea, it won't do home/work, but if you use it a lot you can do a shortcut on your homescreen for navigate to a specific address.

6/30/2010 12:26:05 AM

Quote :

"that's obviously not a hard fact...or there wouldn't be all these stories coming out on either side of the issue. not to mention, i've been reading plenty of articles on this issue and haven't seen any [current] mention of the 5 year thing. if you wanna enlighten us feel free to provide some links. you're sitting there acting like it's a fact but the blogs/media doesn't agree with you."

I'm not gonna go back to 2007 and dig all that up for you but I'm positive that Engadget and other sites mentioned a five year exclusivity period. Obviously no one knows EXACTLY what the time period was but for sure the five year number was thrown around when the phone was introduced. And here we are, three years later, which is an eternity for carrier exclusivity, and every year someone keeps saying the iPhone is coming to Verizon...

Betcha $5 you won't see it on VZW until 2012.

6/30/2010 12:38:00 AM

I wonder when the @DroidLanding twitter feed will actually give useful info on finding the X's. It's a pretty neat idea.

6/30/2010 9:47:51 AM

^^^ sweet thanks for the info

6/30/2010 10:49:43 AM

^^^+1.

The new "incredible, amazing, revolutionary" iPhone feature for the 2012 WWDC will be a phone that actually makes calls (on Verizon).

So the Evo is finally back in stock at Sprint's website & I ordered it yesterday. I want to get a Zagg Invisible Shield, but it has options for "Full Body Maximum Coverage" and "Full Body Easy Install." Any suggestions? The video description seems to try to ham things up rather than actually describe in detail the differences between the two.

6/30/2010 11:19:50 AM

^You may look back on previous pages for another suggestion for a case, I think it was phantomskin

I have the Zagg Invisible Sheild and love it because my phone fits in all the accessories without issue. Although it does make the phone feel rubbery (at least it doesn't slip out of my hand). I can tell you this, you shouldn't install the Zagg piece that covers the touchscreen, just buy a regular screen protector for that.

[Edited on June 30, 2010 at 11:43 AM. Reason : .]

6/30/2010 11:40:24 AM

^Why not install the touchscreen part? The orange peel effect of which I've heard?

Would you recommend phantomskin for the screen in that case or another brand--preferably with as good a warranty as Zagg or else just cheap? I always heard Powersupport was good when I had iPhones, but they only make stuff for Apple products.

I have a 50% off code for Zagg, which is part of why I'd just prefer to go with them. Just wasn't sure which of the full body options to take.

[Edited on June 30, 2010 at 12:00 PM. Reason : ;]

6/30/2010 11:58:20 AM

how does the android music player compare to the ipod app? has it changed since the G1?

[Edited on June 30, 2010 at 12:02 PM. Reason : ]

6/30/2010 12:02:12 PM

^^ ZAGG sucks man is overpriced, annoying to touch, and unnecessary , go with phantomskinz. They have 30% off and it will cost you 17 bucks for 2 full body kits or 7 bucks for 2 touch screen only. If you send them a note you can get 1 gloss and 1 matte. I have matte on the back (looks great and matches the texture perfectly on the Evo) and gloss on the front. They have the stupid color ones you see people using on their BB's and it looks like he just added carbon fiber. Check out the demo videos -- it really is a great protector and one of the cheapest you will find. If you give me an hour to get back from lunch I will find the "2010 screen protector round up" for you on the forums.

Be careful when applying, possibly because of the screen separation issues it's very easy to let water get under the screen. I basically posted a nightmare scenario with mine but I probably went overboard with the solution and of course only let it dry for 3 hours. Once I saw the water I left it alone for 24 hours and by the end of that week everything had evaporated and the device is fine.


http://phantomskinz.com/htcevo4g.aspx
summersale2010 for 30% off

--
I still have a 40% off Zagg code too, but it's not worth it because they still charge you shipping. Phantomskinz is free and of course you get 2 kits in the event you fuck one up. It sounds like I should be earning commission from this vendor, but I'm just that unsatisfied with those "SUPER ELITE MILITARY GRADE DREMEL TOOL PROOF" companies that I feel obligated to share my research. Before Zagg I had Clear Protector which was the same tacky rubber feel and my coworker told me to just grab the static cling ones from ebay. Before doing that I found phantomskinz on ppcgeeks or something and just started reading reviews. Now I'm a customer for life yo.

Ghost Armor is another well received product, but slightly more expensive and it might have a little tacky feel, but I'm not exactly sure. As far as what Prospero said, if you're not just dying to "go naked" [which is probably his intention] I would much rather use a Seidio Innocase and a screen protector than spend 20 dollars and 2 hours installing 4 or 5 quarter inch pieces of rubber. It's all personal preference though.

Here's a ZAGG review/install video so you can see exactly what you're getting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH9IWi3NKRc

[Edited on June 30, 2010 at 12:29 PM. Reason : holy shit what a wall of rambling text.]

6/30/2010 12:11:53 PM

stock music player is still crap.

6/30/2010 12:12:21 PM

^yea, i prefer MixZing or Meridian

[Edited on June 30, 2010 at 12:47 PM. Reason : .]

6/30/2010 12:47:32 PM

^^^Thanks a lot, Grandmaster. If you can post that review round up that'd be great. I'm getting a free Zagg from the StudentRate deal, so I can do my own comparison if I get the Phantomskin. Probably will, but need to take a look at the links you posted. Does Phantomskin have a warranty?

I also plan on getting a hard case. From what I've heard, the Seidio (sp?) Innocase ones are good. I'm just getting one of these full skins since my last 2 iPhones still got scratched up despite using good quality cases. I probably didn't take them out and dust them off enough.

EDIT: Looks like the warranty takes ~2 weeks & $3 by mail. So Zagg definitely wins there since as I understand it you can return them to any retailer that carries them (Best Buy etc) for replacement. If that's not true and you can only return to one of their kiosks, then that would suck.

[Edited on June 30, 2010 at 2:02 PM. Reason : ;]

6/30/2010 1:54:14 PM

Quote :

"^Why not install the touchscreen part? The orange peel effect of which I've heard?"

not so much the orange peel effect, but rather it's hard to swipe your finger on a rubbery surface.

6/30/2010 2:02:50 PM

^^
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=121345

Here is the perpetual screen protector thread. I think Clairvue was actually in my head when I said Ghost Armor, but I don't have any hands on experience with either of them. Also, I'm pretty sure that Zagg will charge about the same amount for shipping and handling of the replacement and you even have to return your old skin. Honestly though, I never really considered warranty as a selling point for any vendor when I was shopping around. At least with PS, by the time I pay 3 bucks to their 3rd party claim service I could have just placed a new order for 7 bucks with free shipping. I could not care less what happens to the film as long as my glass screen is flawless after removal. Just read through that thread and pick the product that appeals to you the most, if I were a betting man I would say that ultimately the materials for certain groups are coming from the same place anyway. Zagg/ClearProtector/"Military Grade" and then the slick/smooth feel materials sold by others.

Quote :

" Is the “free” replacement really free? Do I have to pay anything out of pocket? Per the invisibleSHIELD Lifetime Replacement Guarantee and the 1 Year Manufacturer Warranty, your replacement invisibleSHIELD, ZAGGaudio product, or ZAGGsparq is absolutely free. Your out of pocket expenses may include: * Shipping & handling for the replacement product * Postage for mailing back your old product * Potential customs/brokerage fees for receiving the replacement product we ship to you (international customers only) * You will have 60 days to return your old product. If the product is not returned within 60 days, the credit card you provided during the online replacement process will be charged the full retail value of the product that was replaced."

Good luck!

PS: Seidio also sells protectors and really the glass screen can withstand a pretty good beating in the first place. The guy pulled the youtube video down since the report and I don't have time to find a mirror, but IIRC it held up better than you'd think.

http://pocketnow.com/hardware-1/htc-evo-4g-tortured-with-scratch-test

6/30/2010 2:20:29 PM

I have seidio on my G1 and N1.... they ARE THE BEST SP's. It feels like the glass to me.

6/30/2010 3:30:08 PM

Android 3.0 Gingerbread details:

http://www.unwiredview.com/2010/06/30/android-3-0-gingerbread-details-1280x760-resolution-1ghz-minimum-specs-mid-oct-release/

Quote :

"Here we go: - Android 3.0 Gingerbread will be released in mid- October (around 15 -16th), 2010. First handsets shipping in November/December – for the Holiday Season. - Minimum hardware requirements for Android 3.0 devices are: 1GHZ CPU, 512MB or RAM, displays from 3.5” and higher. (We all, of course, heard that Android handsets with 2GHz CPU’s are coming) - New 1280×760 resolution available for the devices with displays of 4” and higher. (Anyone thinking about Android tablets now? ) - Completely revamped user interface. If you want to get a feeling of what Android 3.0 Gingerbread UX is like, check out the Gallery App on Nexus One. The same overall feel, light animated transitions,etc. Natively, through all the UI. - Android’s split into 2 branches becomes official. 3.0 for top of the line/high end devices. Cheap, low-end mass market handsets will keep Android 2.1/2.2 - Eldar also confirmed my musings about the death of third party User Interface shells like HTC Sense, MotoBlur, etc;. Android 3.0 basically kills the need for them."

Not like any of this is new, but if true would create more fragmentation of the versions, not sure I approve. Also not sure why minimum specs keep going up, they should be working on making it more efficient and increasing battery life than increasing Ghz. I want to do more with less, not do more with more.

[Edited on June 30, 2010 at 4:08 PM. Reason : .]

6/30/2010 4:04:29 PM

yeah, saw that earlier. Looks like Froyo will be the "official" end of the line for the droid

lol. Still taking shots at apple. "hold it anyway you want"

6/30/2010 4:14:37 PM

tried to preorder the droid x from the best buy in winston-salem today, and they stopped taking preorders yesterday

a guy at the verizon store said you can preorder it online, but i think i'll just take my chances on 7/15

6/30/2010 4:40:49 PM

^That sucks, my sister just put in her preorder yesterday at that very store and didn't mention anything about preorders stopping.

6/30/2010 5:48:38 PM

My JuicePlotter for the Droid, normal usage, APN on

P3Droids, #66, 800max/400min, I think beKit kernels are better, Chevy1 also has ultra low voltage kernels available now.

6/30/2010 6:03:38 PM