99% of statistics are 100% bullshit
thats said, i think this falls in the 99% category

7/5/2007 9:22:06 PM

that being said, i think it was a perfect time for xbox to announce the 3 year warranty plan...for 2 reasons...

1) they needed to (atleast for boxes that die because of 3 red lights, not human's breaking them)
2) i see it in a way that they basically just countered the ps3 price drop (if its really true...$499 now)

7/5/2007 10:00:11 PM

^^do you even know how to read? or for that matter do simple math?

They've sold 11.6M consoles
They took a $1B charge
That works out to about $90 bucks per console sold
Thus the charge is about one new console for every 4 they've sold

The charge is for past repairs, but more importantly the cost of having to extend warranties to three years. Yes, it is fantastic that they are doing that. They needed to do it about a year ago. But nonetheless, whatever part of that charge isn't for what they've had to fix, it's expected to be used to fix future failures. Companies don't take a $1B charge just for shits and giggles.

7/5/2007 10:23:39 PM

i am pretty sure from what i read on gamespot that ms is taking a 1b hit for retroactively rolling out this 3 year warranty, thus are putting themselves under the hammer for the potential of upwards to 1b in losses. basically 1b (minus whats already been spent in console repairs) of their funds is frozen and cannot be used otherwise for things like invests, or capital.

[Edited on July 5, 2007 at 10:41 PM. Reason : sdf]

7/5/2007 10:38:04 PM

If they'd been smart they would have pulled a Live Free or Die Hard and put a block of C4 in every 360.

7/5/2007 10:50:25 PM

yeah, then we would all be dead which would be great that we would have to never again hear ps3 fanboys spew diarrhea at the mouth

7/5/2007 10:52:20 PM

^^he just deleted himself

7/6/2007 9:30:40 AM

PGR4 to have bikes

7/6/2007 12:50:11 PM

oh snap

anybody played The Bigs yet (baseball game)? i got that shit in the gamefly queue

7/6/2007 1:02:15 PM

yea, got that in my queue

looks nice

7/6/2007 2:25:15 PM

oh shit, check out the boldfaced type!!!!!!!!!

http://www.charlotte.com/business/story/187170.html

Quote :

"Xbox defects will cost Microsoft Eric A. Taub New York Times LOS ANGELES --In what might be one of the costliest consumer warranty repairs in history, Microsoft announced Thursday that it would spend as much as $1.15 billion to fix failing Xbox 360 game machine consoles. Though the company would not say how many units were failing, Robbie Bach, president of Microsoft's entertainment and devices division, said there have been an "unacceptable high number of repairs." "We don't think we've been getting the job done," Bach said. Company officials said Microsoft had sold 11.6 million Xbox 360 units as of the end of the last quarter, slightly shy of the 12 million units the company predicted. The XBox 360, which went of sale in November 2005, is the best-selling game machine in the U.S., according to NPD, a market research firm. The size of the anticipated repair bill suggests that a third to as many as half of the machines are flawed. Microsoft said it would take a charge of $1.05 billion to $1.15 billion against earnings in the quarter that ended June 30. Consumers know they have a problem if three red flashing lights appear on the console. Gamers on online forums have taken to referring to the event as the "Red Ring of Death" because the machine then shuts down. The company declined to explain the cause of the failure, but said it was not caused by a single problem in the machines. The company said that there are no health or safety issues involved. The problem began to appear in the past three to four months, according to Bach, after "significant usage" of the consoles. Bach said the company has taken steps to correct the problem in newer devices. Microsoft said that it will extend the warranty of the game console to three years, during which time it will pay for shipping and repairs for customers worldwide. Previously, products sold in the U.S. were covered by a one-year warranty, but Xbox 360 units sold in Europe received a two-year warranty. In addition, any customers who have had their consoles repaired because of the "three flashing lights" problem will be reimbursed for the cost of repairs. Microsoft has succeeded in establishing the Xbox brand against the better-known Sony PlayStation and other game machines. The Xbox and its successor, the XBox 360, was the software maker's first major foray into hardware. Though sales are small relative to the rest of Microsoft's revenue, the XBox has been an important venture for the company and was viewed by many analysts as Microsoft's attempt to compete with the likes of Sony and Apple for control of electronics and entertainment within homes. The device can be used to get access to the Internet and to view movies. Microsoft said its entertainment and devices division, which also makes the Zune digital music player, reported an operating loss of $315 million on $929 million in revenue for the three-month period that ended in March. Analysts have estimated that the company has lost about $6 billion getting a foothold in the game-machine industry. A new XBox 360 with a 20-gigabyte hard drive sells for about $400; other versions are about $300. Microsoft has written down larger amounts in the past -- more than $10 billion in the late 1990s related to investments in telecommunications companies, and more than $5 billion related to antitrust issues -- but a $1 billion write-down for one division in one quarter is significant. "It suggests the problem is pretty widespread," said Matt Rosoff, an analyst at the independent research group Directions on Microsoft. "

7/6/2007 5:04:05 PM

i hope you are kidding or high

7/6/2007 5:14:08 PM

is it ironic that his name is treetwista?

7/6/2007 5:36:19 PM

about what? i got my box in november 2005...shit was not in warranty anymore when i called them after getting the ring of doom about a month ago...now apparently it is in warranty...am i missing something?

7/6/2007 5:38:20 PM

naw, just saying this news in on the last page loud and clear.

7/6/2007 5:41:10 PM

ah doh

i remember seeing the "1 for every 4" or whatever but didnt see about the warranty

oh well its good news for me

7/6/2007 5:47:14 PM

i hope that extra 2 years gets tacked on to the year i just paid $25 for to get my warranty extended

7/6/2007 6:22:33 PM

they're refunding warranty payments as well

7/6/2007 7:56:41 PM

ace combat 6 demo on xbl next week!
http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/07/06/ace-combat-6-demo-flies-out-next-week/

im hoping there's a bunch of demos put on xbl during e3

7/7/2007 12:17:59 PM

Now I am extremely happy I didn't get it fixed immediately when it broke!

Finally, after 2 decades, my procrastination pays off!

7/7/2007 12:48:37 PM

except the whole reimbursement thing.

7/7/2007 12:49:42 PM

oh, they are doing that too?

well never mind then

But don't you have to ship it yourself if your warranty is out?

7/7/2007 12:52:37 PM

that is a better argument. i think you might.

7/7/2007 1:25:21 PM

they woulda refunded it

i got my 140 back in a microsoft stamped check and a apology letter

7/7/2007 1:50:58 PM

so what are the 7/7/7 specials that you can only download today

since mine red ringed yesterday, I won't be getting the free downloads

and also, I read today that halo 3 will not be making map packs free ever, so while halo 2 was purchased for a while and then free, if you ever want to continue to play halo 3 online, you will have to continually put more money in their pocket.

The game hasn't even been released yet and they already have maps set aside for map packs.

All in all you'll probably need to spend $100+ after they introduce new maps, and probably new multiplayer modes as well. I somehow doubt they will keep it at $5 seeing how for most things on marketplace these days run for $10.

7/7/2007 1:56:47 PM

you dont need to keep paying, you can continue to play the other maps. as long as they dont gimp the original number of modes or maps, who cares.

7/7/2007 1:58:44 PM

I rented Shadowrun yesterday and I completed all of the training just to find out that the entire game is only multiplayer. No story, no levels, nothing.


Im glad I only rented it

7/7/2007 5:13:30 PM

you need xbl son

7/7/2007 5:17:20 PM

^^ haha
i thought everybody knew that, it is a good bang for online, but too pricey.

7/7/2007 5:27:14 PM

wow, check out this bioshock gameplay

http://www.gamespot.com/video/931329/6173670/videoplayerpop?

7/7/2007 5:47:43 PM

yeah Bioshock is a definite get for me

got it for 40 bucks online

they have mass effect and halo for 40 too, and GTA for 43

course I copped em all

[Edited on July 7, 2007 at 5:53 PM. Reason : x]

7/7/2007 5:52:10 PM

what place online is this?

7/7/2007 5:53:29 PM

liongames.com

looks like a shitty site but I've had nothing but good service with them

I've exchanged several emails with the guy who runs the site, Tony

He saves money on advertising and fancy designs by offering super low prices

I was skeptical at first but since its become the main place I go for games now

7/7/2007 5:59:19 PM

how fast do they ship games after they release date?

7/7/2007 6:02:26 PM

theres 3 shipping options, 5 dollars, 6.50 and 8 dollars

I get the 5 dollar or 6.50 one and on your average tuesday release I usually get the games on Thursday or Friday, a few times on Saturday.

So basically the shipping equals the cost of tax you'd pay in store plus maybe a dollar, so you're saving 17-20 bucks to wait a few days

Madden and NCAA are like crack to me so I had to have those day 1, but the other games I'd rather wait a few days and save 20 dollars per.

Good part with some of the games is you can pay 10 down now to reserve the low price, then the balance before its due to ship.

7/7/2007 6:07:25 PM

so when he has low prices like this, do they last for a good while, or are only for like a week or something?

7/7/2007 6:12:49 PM

they've been up for a few weeks and probably won't dip anytime soon so no rush if you're debating

I'd probably make my mind up a month before the games released because thats usually when the deals tend to reduce or expire

But he's changed the prices quickly before so no garauntees those prices last

[Edited on July 7, 2007 at 6:17 PM. Reason : x]

7/7/2007 6:16:28 PM

well i am about to put bioshock on lock for 10

this site doesn't look shiesty, and uses paypal.

thx for showing me this - i feel this is a shameless plug by you and its your site, but i would not care anyways, lol

[Edited on July 7, 2007 at 6:19 PM. Reason : asf]

7/7/2007 6:18:16 PM

ha trust me its not my site...for starters I'd pick a more appropriate username for this site if I was trying to plug my business


you cant deny the site logo looks like its straight off a kids cereal box

but what he lacks in artistic skills he more than makes up for in customer service

[Edited on July 7, 2007 at 6:22 PM. Reason : x]

7/7/2007 6:20:33 PM

hey um how do you register for an account? i do not see how.

7/7/2007 6:23:40 PM

I don't remember exactly, I did it thru paypal I think

7/7/2007 6:26:35 PM

they redirect you back after they go to paypal and have your funds as a subtotal then you register. nice method they have. i might just go ahead and put a deposit on gta iv for a guarantee of 43 dollars for it.

[Edited on July 7, 2007 at 6:34 PM. Reason : asdfg]

7/7/2007 6:33:30 PM

bioshock achievements can be found here:

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/achievements.php?gameID=271

7/7/2007 8:18:30 PM

recommend me a game


i am partial to ones like tony hawk project 8 (have it) where i can just fuck around and not be confined to a mission's path all the time (like gears of war)

i have:
tony hawk's project 8
gears of war
saints row
burnout revenge

7/7/2007 8:53:09 PM

the godfather is great! best gta clone out there. oh and just so you know gta-sa can be played on the 360 and its only 20 bucks, so if you never played it, i highly recommend getting it.

7/7/2007 8:59:25 PM

i have GTA:SA for ps2

7/7/2007 9:00:31 PM

oh ok. well get the godfather! its great. hitman is another good game, and also the darkness allows yuo be be a bit of exploration and it is quite engaging.

7/7/2007 9:02:46 PM

Full Auto is a favorite of mine, so if you haven't tried it, give it a shot. Along with Marvel Ultimate Alliance.

7/7/2007 11:31:03 PM

i sold my godfather last week, where were you?

i still have gears of war, dead rising, and hitman so make an offer

7/8/2007 12:47:16 PM

Here's my latest release date list...

NCAA Football 08 (7/17/07)
NASCAR ’08 (7/23/07)
Stranglehold (8/6/07)
Madden NFL 08 (8/14/07)
Bioshock (8/21/07)
Medal of Honor: Airborne (8/27/07)
Tiger Woods 08 (8/28/07)
Blacksite: Area 51 (9/3/07)
Mass Effect (9/3/07)
PGR 4 (9/3/07)
Skate (9/5/07)
NHL 08 (9/11/07)
Turok (9/17/07)
Halo 3 (9/25/07)
America’s Army (9/25/07)
Virtua Fighter 5 (10/2/07)
NBA 2K8 (10/2/07)
FIFA Soccer 08 (10/9/07)
Half-Life 2 Orange Box (10/9/07)
Tony Hawk’s Proving Ground (10/9/07)
Grand Theft Auto IV (10/16/07)
Mercenaries 2 (10/22/07)
Ace Combat 6 (10/23/07)
Guitar Hero III (10/28/07)
Call of Duty 4 (10/30/07)
Kane and Lynch (11/13/07)
Assassin’s Creed (TBA)
Brothers in Arms (TBA)
Devil May Cry 4 (TBA)
Army of Two (TBA)
Unreal Tournament 3 (TBA)
Battlefield: Bad Company (TBA)

7/8/2007 1:03:24 PM