How can you say, with 100% confidence, that John McCain is not a zombie?

10/6/2008 10:16:10 PM

hey man, reagan is a zombie.... it could happen

10/6/2008 10:17:23 PM

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"I'd imply that the radical views of Ayers have shaped Obama politically."

Lots of things imply lots of things.

Pointing out Obama's middle name implies something with certain people too (and I don't even know what McCain's middle name is).

what exactly are some of Ayers' radical views that have shaped Obama?

Obama does seem bomb-happy on Pakistan, but I can't see the right disagreeing with that.

Why doesn't McCain's affection for Gordon Liddy mean anything? or his involvement in the Keating 5?

[Edited on October 6, 2008 at 10:21 PM. Reason : ]

10/6/2008 10:19:39 PM

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"I'd imply that the radical views of Ayers have shaped Obama politically. "

Hey, you actually distilled your argument into something! Of course, it is something that you cannot prove and no one can disprove.

10/6/2008 10:23:25 PM

oh, the keating 5? you mean the scandal where democrats tried to find a republican scapegoat so it wouldn't look as bad for them? who was that scapegoat...

^ but, it's still pretty damning, especially given how the two conveniently keep popping up together over the years... still, Obama was brought forth by the corrupt Chicago political system, so there's nothing much worse that you can say about him than that alone

[Edited on October 6, 2008 at 10:26 PM. Reason : ]

10/6/2008 10:25:12 PM

^ so when other people spew talking points it's bad, but when you do it, it's okay?

10/6/2008 10:26:25 PM

ummm no. it's the fact that Keating 5 was trumped up against McCain. Obama chose to hang around w/ Ayers

10/6/2008 10:27:13 PM

Democrats trying to blame Republicans for an economic crisis? Sound anything like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?

10/6/2008 10:27:16 PM

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"what exactly are some of Ayers' radical views that have shaped Obama? "

10/6/2008 10:29:05 PM

Ayers on Obama Bush:

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"Asked about President Bush's ability to connect with voters, Ayers said: "Well, he's very charming, and charm does get you pretty far in American politics. It's kind of frightening."

I guess terrorists might know what they're talking about after all

10/6/2008 10:29:54 PM

it's hard to say, moron. Ayers might have taught Obama some of his ill-formed policies, but it's to pinpoint how much crazy is innate in Obama.

10/6/2008 10:31:10 PM

mccain/ liddy trumps obama/ayers pretty bad, theres really no room to talk

10/6/2008 10:31:45 PM

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"it's hard to say"

Actually, it's impossible to say.

Which is why guilt by association is dumb. So keep on clinging to it. Meanwhile, Obama will continue talking about solutions to the economy, and widening his margin of victory.


Man, Republicans are getting bitter as crap. Didn't you guys used to accuse us of that?

10/6/2008 10:35:27 PM

remind me again. how many bombings did liddy plan? And how many times did liddy say he "wished he had done more?" I'm just asking...

^ HAHAHAHAHA. "Solutions?" Like "CHANGE!!!" "HOPE!!!" and "BELIEVE!!!"?

[Edited on October 6, 2008 at 10:36 PM. Reason : ]

10/6/2008 10:36:28 PM

Why won't you just read his plans? They're just as detailed as McCain's.

10/6/2008 10:38:16 PM

Again..can someone explain how putting socialist Obama in charge of the economy is going to fix anything? Socialism has never worked.

What do you think he is going to do for you besides give everyone a larger, more centralized state?

If you think his one trillion dollar spending plans will only rape the richest taxpayers..you're dreaming. Once in office, he will claim the problem is bigger than he thought (ala Clinton) and we need a massive tax increase on most everyone.

Individual economic freedom? Forget it! The new definition of patriotism will be paying your higher taxes with a smile. This guy thinks the whole purpose of taxes is to make life fair.

[Edited on October 6, 2008 at 10:40 PM. Reason : .]

10/6/2008 10:39:32 PM

and scary as hell. this country has been pushed too far toward socialism as it is.

10/6/2008 10:40:24 PM

Again..can someone explain how injecting hyperbolic rhetoric into the debate is going to accomplish anything?

10/6/2008 10:40:32 PM

Ask Obama

10/6/2008 10:41:41 PM

I would read his plans, but I can't get past that screen that says "give me money." I think that says it well enough.

10/6/2008 10:42:23 PM

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"Have you ever been a friend or business associate of a terrorist? Not someone who, to your shock and horror, turned out secretly to have bombed government buildings. No, the question is whether you’ve ever befriended an unreconstructed radical whose past was well known to you when you entered his orbit and walked through doors he opened for you. Have you been chummy with an unapologetic terrorist who, years after you’d known and worked closely with him, was still telling the New York Times he regretted only failing to carry out more attacks — and that America still “makes me want to puke”? Barack Obama has. "

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZDI4YzUyYmI1ZjA1OWUzMDA5ZDIzNTI4NTk5ZmYwYWY=&w=MA==

10/6/2008 10:42:28 PM

Aha, but seriously.

He's no more "socialist" than Bush or McCain.

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"I would read his plans, but I can't get past that screen that says "give me money." I think that says it well enough."

This is typical of why there isn't a single person on this board who takes you seriously (that, and your euphalo retardism). LOL HE HAS NO PLAN. LOL I WONT READ HIS PLAN.

[Edited on October 6, 2008 at 10:44 PM. Reason : ]

10/6/2008 10:43:26 PM

so this ayers guy is the professor right?

10/6/2008 10:43:40 PM

oh, so as long as he's only as bad as Hitler, I guess it's ok to elect him, right?

^^ I'm not surprised that you don't get the point. Obama's first fucking interaction with people at his campaign website is to beg for money. That, in itself, says enough about him to make me understand that he is a horrible candidate. I need read no further. At least McCain lets me see other shit as he's begging me for money. Not surprising that you can't see such a blatantly bad thing about your messiah

[Edited on October 6, 2008 at 10:47 PM. Reason : ]

10/6/2008 10:45:01 PM

^^^^




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10/6/2008 10:45:20 PM

OMG SOCIALIST OBAMA WILL RUIN OUR CUNTRY.

As long as half the nation is red and half is blue, our country will always will be a hybrid of capitalism/socialism.

10/6/2008 10:45:47 PM

i for one hate college professors too

10/6/2008 10:46:18 PM

What I want to know is how a guy who admits to being a domestic terrorist and only regrets not doing more got a faculty position at a reputable university.

10/6/2008 10:46:33 PM

^ I think his "only admits to not doing more" is being taken out of context. IIRC, Ayers has actually elaborated on that line.

10/6/2008 10:47:50 PM

ummm. no. Half-red/half-blue means that we will drift further to the left. Because we'll never get enough support to destroy the terrible policies enacted when the fucking libbies are in power. For proof? New Deal

10/6/2008 10:48:58 PM

^^He does but context is too difficult a concept to grasp for them.

[Edited on October 6, 2008 at 10:50 PM. Reason : .]

10/6/2008 10:50:13 PM

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"At least McCain lets me see other shit as he's begging me for money."

Ok, then you're too inept to use a basic user interface.

Notice the "skip to site" button? Eh? Was that too difficult to use?

BTW, Obama just hooked up everyone with a free iPhone app that includes his entire platform. Aww... did McCain not get around to that? Maybe when he learns how to send an email he'll have someone get on it.

10/6/2008 10:51:19 PM

big government is a teat that it is very difficult to wean politicians from, whether they be on the left or right.

^OMG- Obama is so cool. He uses the iphone. let's all vote for him.

[Edited on October 6, 2008 at 10:53 PM. Reason : ...]

10/6/2008 10:51:34 PM

what's the appropriate context?

10/6/2008 10:51:59 PM

because his intentions were for a greater good and the university can see that. If it was on some timmy mcvay or unibomber kill a bunch of people mindset then he wouldn't be there. Plus universities encourage open minded frames of thought and bright minds without actually backing the opinions of all their faculty. The same way Columbia University was delighted to have ackmendinajaspell come talk.

10/6/2008 10:52:00 PM

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"Because we'll never get enough support"

lolz

so having a republican president, and republican congress for 6 years is "not enough support"?

Weren't you righties bragging recently about how most presidents in the past 40 years have been republican?

so how exactly is it you'll "never get enough support" when you've had the perfect storm of support for the past couple of years?

10/6/2008 10:52:47 PM

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"Half-red/half-blue means that we will drift further to the left."

Does not logically follow.

The governments policies will likely drift towards the left, yes. But a socialist country that does not make. It means that the hybrid capitalist/socialist country has drifted towards the left.

10/6/2008 10:53:47 PM

why does the university of illinois hate america?

10/6/2008 10:54:05 PM

so it's ok to try to kill American citizens as a war protest as long as you mean it "for the greater good"?

[Edited on October 6, 2008 at 10:55 PM. Reason : .]

10/6/2008 10:54:53 PM

so whats this guy a professor of? how to be a terrorist 101?

10/6/2008 10:55:39 PM

his buddy Barry says English.

10/6/2008 10:56:20 PM

TR0R 101

duh

10/6/2008 10:56:23 PM

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"Obama's first fucking interaction with people at his campaign website is to beg for money. "

are you blind?
Where on this splash page is he asking for money? Yes "email and zip code so we can send you his plan" is the same as "GIVE ME SOME FUCKING MONEY!"


It's ironic that you're complaining that you can't find his policy plans because his first page is asking for money, when in fact, his first page is asking your for your contact information so he can directly send you his policy plans


gee, you know, it looks a bit like another page.....


[Edited on October 6, 2008 at 10:57 PM. Reason : .]

10/6/2008 10:56:29 PM

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"I think his "only admits to not doing more" is being taken out of context. IIRC, Ayers has actually elaborated on that line."

First, the defense was of Obama and that Ayers did not have an influence on him because they weren't close at all.

Now the defense has become, "oh his comments are taken out of context" and "his bombings were for a greater good."

Are you all seriously listening to yourselves? Defend Obama all you want and argue there was no relationship/influence but how can you seriously defend Ayers and his actions?

[Edited on October 6, 2008 at 10:57 PM. Reason : .]

10/6/2008 10:57:00 PM

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"Notice the "skip to site" button? Eh? Was that too difficult to use?"

Unfortunately, there will not be a "skip my ass-raping taxes" button under an Obama presidency.

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"so having a republican president, and republican congress for 6 years is "not enough support"

Well, when those "republicans" are no more conservative than the guys on the other side of the aisle... Yeah, there will never be enough actual support to overturn the welfare state. Especially when more than half of the voters keep trying to vote themselves more goodies on the remainder's dime.

^^ hey, dickface, I'm talking about website as I experienced it the last time I went there. That was, frankly, understood. Good work being a fucking moron.

[Edited on October 6, 2008 at 10:58 PM. Reason : ]

10/6/2008 10:57:00 PM

Arrrrg, McCain's design has become even worse!

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"Well, when those "republicans" are no more conservative than the guys on the other side of the aisle"

McCain is these people's spokesperson.

Are you even thinking before you post?

[Edited on October 6, 2008 at 10:58 PM. Reason : ]

10/6/2008 10:57:26 PM

obamas real webpage is http://www.howtobeaterrorist.com

10/6/2008 10:57:40 PM

Well the Pentagon killed way more Americans at the time than he did and he was "fighting for the people, against the government".

10/6/2008 10:58:00 PM

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"He's no more "socialist" than Bush or McCain"

Seriously..he is way more socialist than those two posers. His response when asked why he wants to raise taxes on the rich is because it's fair. From each according to his ability to each according to his need. Each time a politician tells you you have more money than you need- you've entered the Twi-Marx Zone.

While running for state senate in 1996, Obama recieved the endorsement of the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America. Obama showed up in Vermont to support the candidacy of self-proclaimed socialist Bernie Saunders.

I think Bush and McCain are both big-gov't politicians, but they don't hold a candle to Obama who probably prides himself on the fact that he has never spent a moment on the private sector side.

10/6/2008 10:58:30 PM

^^oh great..another "its americas fault" loon lol

10/6/2008 10:58:31 PM