arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
Clean and jerk day!!!!11 10/13/2008 5:33:48 PM |
fleetwud AmbitiousButRubbish 49741 Posts user info edit post |
may go ride my bike for the first time in over a month 10/13/2008 5:36:05 PM |
CassTheSass cupid 35382 Posts user info edit post |
i need to hire aaprior as my personal trainer.
hell i just need to hire a personal trainer.
i've been consistently in the gym 5 days a week, eating healthy, low calorie foods for 9 months now and none of my weight has budged. i gained like 10 pounds overnight last year and it won't go away 10/13/2008 5:38:13 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
you should probably post what you work out with and eat, and you could start keeping a food log to track just how much you eat a day 10/13/2008 5:41:48 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
i was going to go to the gym today but then i discovered that my cat once again chewed through my ipod headphones. and not having an ipod is my (very valid) excuse for not going. i shall go tomorrow. sigh. 10/13/2008 5:43:08 PM |
CassTheSass cupid 35382 Posts user info edit post |
trust me, i have. i even go and check about once a week to make sure i'm eating about 1500 calories a day.
plus i eat the same thing pretty much during the day give or take. i change it up every once and a while but stay within the same calorie range.
also i eat 5 or 6 small meals throughout the day. lots of protein, watch the carbs and sugar. i don't drink soda or sweet tea. i don't consume alcohol all the time. i get 8 hours of sleep. i do a good mix of cardio (change it up everyday) and weights (also change it up everyday).
also would like to point out that i saw a nutritionist at the beginning of the year for a few months and she couldn't figure out why i couldn't lose weight. also had extensive bloodwork done this year to make sure i didn't have diabetes or hypoactive thyroid. everything checked out normal
i have never had problems before this year.
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CassTheSass cupid 35382 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i was going to go to the gym today but then i discovered that my cat once again chewed through my ipod headphones. " |
my cat has chewed through 3 pairs of mine. i keep them hidden now.10/13/2008 5:44:35 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
well, are you actually overweight by much? you don't have to answer that
how intense are your workouts? Its odd that you haven't been seeing results... 10/13/2008 5:49:13 PM |
aaprior Veteran 498 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i even go and check about once a week to make sure i'm eating about 1500 calories a day" |
This is too LOW calorie to sustain any useful weight loss for a period of time exceeding 2 months. After that, you metabolism crawls. I eat 1500 calories a day to shed weight for contests. But I only do it for 10-12 weeks then I taper back up. Meanwhile, I modulate my cardio from low intensity and short time duration, to high intensity, intervals, long duration, and then back down... Nothing stays constant for too long, because that is when your metabolism and body adapt and you reach your plateau. 1500 calories is an extreme deficit for anyone, even me at 5 foot 1 and 111lbs. Something tells me this isn't as accurate as you think (not an insult, just a bit of experience). If it is-- then you must make some big changes ASAP. I would suggest doubling your food intake to 3000 calories and eliminating cardio from your workout altogether for no less than a month to allow your body a chance to feel "normal" for a while and "re-set" if you will. I'm surprised the "nutritionist" didn't catch on to this..... There are lots of wrestlers/bodybuilders who have wrecked their metabolisms with cutting diets and one of the surest ways to recover is to start eating and get off the treadmill-- amazing, but true.10/13/2008 6:10:42 PM |
Fareako Shitter Pilot 10238 Posts user info edit post |
What didn't I do today. I feel dead. 10/13/2008 6:22:31 PM |
arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This is too LOW calorie " |
This, and many nutritionists have their heads up their ass.10/13/2008 6:30:51 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
i've been told never to go below bmr
http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/ 10/13/2008 6:39:05 PM |
arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
but bmr is based on bmi..... FAIL 10/13/2008 6:41:15 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
i meant to go to the gym, but there was free food and a meeting with my advisor on Centennial Campus...then I had to spend some time working on my schedule, then I think TWW happened . 10/13/2008 6:43:59 PM |
CassTheSass cupid 35382 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This is too LOW calorie to sustain any useful weight loss for a period of time exceeding 2 months. After that, you metabolism crawls. I eat 1500 calories a day to shed weight for contests. But I only do it for 10-12 weeks then I taper back up. Meanwhile, I modulate my cardio from low intensity and short time duration, to high intensity, intervals, long duration, and then back down... Nothing stays constant for too long, because that is when your metabolism and body adapt and you reach your plateau. 1500 calories is an extreme deficit for anyone, even me at 5 foot 1 and 111lbs. Something tells me this isn't as accurate as you think (not an insult, just a bit of experience). If it is-- then you must make some big changes ASAP. I would suggest doubling your food intake to 3000 calories and eliminating cardio from your workout altogether for no less than a month to allow your body a chance to feel "normal" for a while and "re-set" if you will. I'm surprised the "nutritionist" didn't catch on to this..... There are lots of wrestlers/bodybuilders who have wrecked their metabolisms with cutting diets and one of the surest ways to recover is to start eating and get off the treadmill-- amazing, but true." |
thanks aaprior! and trust me, it's not an insult, you do have a lot of experience. 3,000 calories seem high. i don't even know if i can eat 3,000 calories worth of food.
my biggest problem is that i can lift weights for about 30 minutes and then i'm about done. i guess i don't have enough exercises for each group (legs, stomach, back, arms) to go for more than that time. i think the reason i like cardio so much is because it de-stresses me after a long day. my weight training is high in intensity and i've definitely noticed i can lift a high weight amount since starting. do you have any suggestions? you can PM me if you like10/13/2008 6:52:36 PM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
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arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
Still sounds like it's a nutritional problem. Try to up your calories, and you may, no, WILL find a new drive/intensity in your workouts. Are you consuming any carbs around workouts?
[Edited on October 13, 2008 at 6:55 PM. Reason : ] 10/13/2008 6:54:53 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, with a low calorie diet like that, I'm sure you would run out of energy very quickly. 10/13/2008 6:56:15 PM |
CassTheSass cupid 35382 Posts user info edit post |
actually i have a very high energy level. i eat a good balance of carbs, protein, veggies, and fruit and i drink tons of water. the only thing i really have to stay away from is anything with white flour and sugar.....it gives me killer headaches within 20 minutes.
i think my problem is that after 30 minutes, i'm bored with doing weights.
and i'm not even classified as overweight by BMI standards. it's just that i've always been super fit and now nothing seems to work. kind of frustrating but i am proud of myself considering i've stuck with it and not given up all hope. 10/13/2008 7:01:14 PM |
ReceiveDeath INEED2 GET HIRITENOW 70284 Posts user info edit post |
done jack shit 10/13/2008 7:02:02 PM |
CassTheSass cupid 35382 Posts user info edit post |
i would think jackin' it to miley would count for something 10/13/2008 7:02:42 PM |
Mulva All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
Bought new shoes (Asics Gel Fluent II) , lol I have been running on some old Puma crosstrainers I bought like 4 years ago in Europe because I lost my last pair of Asics.
Broke the shoes in with a 27 min run on the Greenway in Concord 10/13/2008 7:02:51 PM |
Lewizzle All American 14393 Posts user info edit post |
Did yoga for an hour. 10/13/2008 7:21:30 PM |
porcha All American 5286 Posts user info edit post |
ate today:
Breakfast 6:30am 3x Eggs 2x Servings Oatmeal w/ Cinnamon
Small Meal 9:00am 24g Protein Shake 2 Slices Whole Wheat Cinnamon Raisin Bread
Small Meal 12:30pm 24g Protein Shake Creatine 2 Slices Whole Wheat Cinnamon Raisin Bread
Post Workout Meal 2:30pm 48g Protein Shake Banana Fiber One Bar 2 Slices Whole Wheat Cinnamon Raisin Bread
Dinner 7:00pm 6oz Chicken 4oz Whole Wheat Pasta 8oz Green Peas Fiber One Bar
Gonna eat at 10:00pm Slow Digesting Protein Shake
~3000 Calories for the day 10/13/2008 7:38:20 PM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
So I am lifting weights at my gym today, and I am doing chest exercises today. I start off with bench and I am not lifting super heavy, Im doing sets in the low 300's....ie 305-325.
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CassTheSass cupid 35382 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Breakfast 6:30am 3x Eggs 2x Servings Oatmeal w/ Cinnamon
Small Meal 9:00am 24g Protein Shake 2 Slices Whole Wheat Cinnamon Raisin Bread
Small Meal 12:30pm 24g Protein Shake Creatine 2 Slices Whole Wheat Cinnamon Raisin Bread
Post Workout Meal 2:30pm 48g Protein Shake Banana Fiber One Bar 2 Slices Whole Wheat Cinnamon Raisin Bread
Dinner 7:00pm 6oz Chicken 4oz Whole Wheat Pasta 8oz Green Peas Fiber One Bar
Gonna eat at 10:00pm Slow Digesting Protein Shake
~3000 Calories for the day" |
great googley-moogely. i would vomit 10/13/2008 7:55:17 PM |
twoozles All American 20735 Posts user info edit post |
i walked my dog around the hood i need to do that more often and longer 10/13/2008 7:57:46 PM |
bitchplease All American 613 Posts user info edit post |
woke up early and swam for an hour. i forgot how much i love swimming. i wish i didn't stay up so late last night, though.
are protein shakes a good way to increase caloric intake? i have a relative for muscle milk so my parents have a whole garage full of that stuff. 10/13/2008 8:40:22 PM |
aaprior Veteran 498 Posts user info edit post |
Porcha - awesome work with the diet! That looks solid! 10/13/2008 9:27:32 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
yesterday i ran 5 miles and did back...today i did legs and ran 2 miles
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Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
I'm now aiming for a conceivable goal and cutting down my workout time to two hours. 10/13/2008 9:30:16 PM |
arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
You might want to think about adding more veggies/greens. Frozen veggies are cheap and keep. Berries might be good in that oatmeal (you can get them cheap in big frozen bags)
The 2nd meal, id drop the bread in favor of a veg and nuts
Also, I wonder about the bread for pre and post workout. It probably does have sugar, but you don't don't need fiber around workouts. I'd try some powdered gatorade w/ your whey. If you have vanilla whey, orange gatorade makes a NOMilicious shake that tastes like orange and cream popscicle.
What's w/ the fiber one bar? 10/13/2008 9:34:44 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
I take it you were talking to bitchplease, but that sounds like sound advice. 10/13/2008 9:36:48 PM |
arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
to porcha
On the topic of muscle milk, i'm not a fan. Too much fat for workout drinks, and I'd rather do whole foods through out the day.
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[Edited on October 13, 2008 at 9:43 PM. Reason : ] 10/13/2008 9:37:38 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
Oh, thanks friend! 10/13/2008 9:40:04 PM |
ReceiveDeath INEED2 GET HIRITENOW 70284 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i would think jackin' it to miley would count for something" |
ICWYDT 10/13/2008 9:40:39 PM |
arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
Opps, sorry dude 10/13/2008 9:43:59 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
porcha loves protein shakes 10/13/2008 9:44:38 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
^i have at least 2 a day
[Edited on October 13, 2008 at 9:46 PM. Reason : ~40g of protein] 10/13/2008 9:46:32 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
lolololol.
Back to the topic:
Does anybody here use creatine? I have heard it just puts water in your muscles, thusly increasing size without strength.
Does anybody have experience with workout recovery speedup supplements? I would imagine it would inhibit or destroy ATP or metabolic processes. 10/13/2008 9:48:19 PM |
aaprior Veteran 498 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The 2nd meal, id drop the bread in favor of a veg and nuts" |
Theres lots of stuff you can throw in instead of whole wheat bread, but I think he is in class and wants a moderate calorie, medium glycemic slow/moderate digesting carb. It looks like hes building up to lift weights right after class.
Quote : | "What's w/ the fiber one bar?" |
You need lots of fiber with a 200g plus protein diet or your colon starts getting a little agitated.
I get hardly any vegetables because I don't really like them-- I substitute whole wheat breads myself for vegetables but peas, green beans, carrots, corn etc... are good to throw in sometimes. You can also use brown rices and nice whole grain rice pilafs if you get sick of bread. Fruits make good pre-workout carbs as well, especially apples (plus theres some more fiber for you)10/13/2008 9:48:54 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
^^i take creatine also...it helps size and strength for me
[Edited on October 13, 2008 at 9:50 PM. Reason : eat about 30/40g of fiber a day] 10/13/2008 9:49:24 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
DNL, is that your only source of protein? That sounds like a lot of creatine. I took some as a freshman and sophomore, but only about 5-10 grams. It sounds like you also work out a lot, so that may be necessary. 10/13/2008 9:53:45 PM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
basketball, treadmill, abs, legs 10/13/2008 9:57:37 PM |
arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
I was thinking that 2nd shake was the pre-wo. I'm talking about the 9am. A quick digesting carb right before should be fine. I'm talking about the 9am.
[Edited on October 13, 2008 at 9:58 PM. Reason : ] 10/13/2008 9:58:15 PM |
porcha All American 5286 Posts user info edit post |
i JUSt started this new high complex carb/protein diet, i was running on a mostly fat/protein diet
the fiber one bars I was able to get for free via the parents when I went home over the weekend, pretty low in sugar and fat while high in whole grains and fiber
the bread was just convenient for me since I got back from the parents house last night, went to Lowes foods and the only whole grain bread left//on sale was that whole grain cinnamon raisin
taking aaprior's advice, i'm trying to go high complex carbs/proteins and no added fat for the type of build I'm aiming for...what types of foods would be sufficient to replace the high carbs of the bread? each slice only has 3g sugar and 20g total carbs(100 cal/slice) I have to pack all my food in my bookbag so anything cooked or sloppy is out of the question
yea, i love frozen veggies but the only time I'm at home to cook them is dinner/late night...I park and ride so the earliest I'm home is 45 minutes AFTER my workout is finished, I was informed to consume around 70g of good carbs post workout, so that combination worked out well for this week...I'd prefer to eat those whole grain bagels from Thomas, something like 270 cal bagel, 56g carb, 1g sugar, 8g fiber, 8g protein, 1.5g fat
I guess I could pack something likes carrots/celery as a portable veg but they're both extremely low in nutritional value....a romaine/garden salad everyday would be too pricey for my budget 10/13/2008 9:58:19 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^huh? i take about 5-7g of creatine a day, about 130-150g of protein a day, like 30-40g of fiber...etc etc etc 10/13/2008 10:00:19 PM |
porcha All American 5286 Posts user info edit post |
the 9am meal is also following up 30 minutes worth of cardio
since I park n ride to school, I'm up every morning at 6:15am, catch the earliest bus possible at 7:08, at the gym by 7:30...work lightly til 8:30, shower at the gym and off to class at 9:10am. I sometimes do abs post-cardio, never lift though
should i swap out that banana for the pre-workout meal and eat the slow digesting carbs after?
it's apple season too, I should def snag some 10/13/2008 10:03:19 PM |
arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
I wasn't suggesting fruit/vegg w/ workout shakes (or even bread), due to the fiber, which isn't optimal around workouts.
My suggestion for the 900 small meal was based on a lower carb cutting diet and the assumption of no cardio. I was thinking something more like a can of tuna, nuts, etc.
EDIT...just saw the cardio part..............................................................
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[Edited on October 13, 2008 at 10:10 PM. Reason : ] 10/13/2008 10:07:10 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ I misread your post. Are you on the one gram per pound deal of protein? You're a light dude!
[Edited on October 13, 2008 at 10:09 PM. Reason : asdfasfd] 10/13/2008 10:08:41 PM |