Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/03/politics/mueller-manafort-rosenstein-memo/index.html 4/3/2018 9:50:12 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/04/04/politics/roger-stone-julian-assange-email-wikileaks/index.html
We supposed to believe he was joking about this too? Lots of good jokes from Roger. Funny guy. 4/4/2018 1:18:19 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Has anyone else watched that Trump series on Netflix? Kinda funny to see so many familiar faces (Stone, Nunberg, Cohn) 4/4/2018 1:34:31 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Not yet, but Stone and Manafort go way back, particularly in US politics. 4/4/2018 3:46:55 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
Well shit...
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/04/politics/mueller-special-counsel-investigation-russian-oligarchs/index.html
Quote : | "Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has taken the unusual step of questioning Russian oligarchs who traveled into the US, stopping at least one and searching his electronic devices when his private jet landed at a New York area airport, according to multiple sources familiar with the inquiry." |
[Edited on April 4, 2018 at 6:14 PM. Reason : ]4/4/2018 6:14:42 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Investigators are asking whether wealthy Russians illegally funneled cash donations directly or indirectly into Donald Trump's presidential campaign and inauguration." |
Quote : | "The approach to Russian oligarchs in recent weeks may reflect that Mueller's team has already obtained records or documents that it has legal jurisdiction over and can get easily, one source said, and now it's a "wish list" to see what other information they can obtain from Russians entering the US or through their voluntary cooperation." |
4/4/2018 7:56:12 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/05/ex-trump-aide-paul-manafort-approved-black-ops-to-help-ukraine-president
I guess that the takeaway from this story is that 2016 wasn't Paul Manafort's first rodeo. 4/5/2018 4:02:02 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/05/politics/robert-mueller-manafort-search/index.html 4/5/2018 11:13:43 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
I'm now hearing again from the talking heads that "collusion isn't a crime."
Before it was "there was no collusion." Now it's "collusion isn't a crime." 4/6/2018 11:05:04 AM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-has-evidence-contradicting-erik-princes-testimony-about-russia-meeting
I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see Erik Prince back in the states anytime soon. 4/6/2018 3:33:30 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
haha idiot talking heads.
conspiracy is a crime 4/6/2018 3:50:48 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
For now, this seems only tangential to the Russia-Trump investigation.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/us/politics/fbi-raids-office-of-trumps-longtime-lawyer-michael-cohen.html?smid=pl-share
Quote : | "The F.B.I. on Monday raided the office of President Trump’s longtime personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, seizing records related to several topics including payments to a pornographic-film actress.
Federal prosecutors in Manhattan obtained the search warrant after receiving a referral from the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, according to Mr. Cohen’s lawyer, who called the search 'completely inappropriate and unnecessary.' The search does not appear to be directly related to Mr. Mueller’s investigation, but likely resulted from information he had uncovered and gave to prosecutors in New York.
'Today the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York executed a series of search warrants and seized the privileged communications between my client, Michael Cohen, and his clients,' said Stephen Ryan, his lawyer. 'I have been advised by federal prosecutors that the New York action is, in part, a referral by the Office of Special Counsel, Robert Mueller.'
Mr. Cohen plays a role in aspects of the special counsel's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. He also recently said he paid $130,000 to a pornographic-film actress, Stephanie Clifford, who said she had an affair with Mr. Trump. Ms. Clifford is known as Stormy Daniels.
Mr. Ryan said Mr. Cohen has cooperated with authorities and turned over thousands of documents to congressional investigators looking into Russian election meddling.
The payments to Ms. Clifford are only one of many topics being investigated, according to a person briefed on the search. The F.B.I. also seized emails, tax documents and business records, the person said." |
4/9/2018 4:20:30 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Haha all these mobbed up assholes Trump has been running around with for decades are all getting fucked because he won an election he never though he would or wanted to.
** it’s going to be interesting to see how we deal with a sitting president who has likely engaged in tax fraud, money laundering and various other racketeering...
[Edited on April 9, 2018 at 4:30 PM. Reason : Presidential immunity] 4/9/2018 4:24:15 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
If any part of that warrant was based on the Prague trip/s Trump is done. 4/9/2018 4:48:22 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
4/9/2018 5:41:36 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know why Trump is so upset about this. When pressed about the Stormy Daniels payment, he literally told everyone to ask Michael Cohn about it 4/9/2018 6:41:01 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
so the "russia" investigation has now focused in on stormy daniels... 4/9/2018 7:46:18 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Certainly sounds like mission creep to me. 4/9/2018 8:07:32 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it’s going to be interesting to see how we deal with a sitting president who has likely engaged in tax fraud, money laundering and various other racketeering... " |
you think he's the first?4/9/2018 8:19:02 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
^^ You should read a little closer about what Mueller actually did. 4/9/2018 8:32:19 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/why-robert-mueller-handed-off-the-michael-cohen-raid.html
You guys talking about mission creep and shit, unless I'm completely misunderstanding you, are acting like idiots with absolutely no understanding or appreciation for what the fuck is going on right now and apparently don't understand how law enforcement works.
[Edited on April 9, 2018 at 8:44 PM. Reason : a] 4/9/2018 8:43:12 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Lol, morons ITT 4/9/2018 9:30:29 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
yeah its like when the cops pull you over for driving a stolen car but the plates check out so they call in the drug-sniffing dogs.
couldn't happen to a better person though. he's sided with law enforcement through too much malpractice. 4/9/2018 10:20:49 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Trump doesn’t email supposedly, if there’s a paper trail directly implicating trump it’s through Cohen
Trump is probably panicking right now, I think all of his patsies have been rounded up at this point.
Probably only one left is the Blackwater guy but I can’t imagine he’s not being watched. 4/10/2018 12:19:29 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Haha all these mobbed up assholes Trump has been running around with for decades are all getting fucked because he won an election he never though he would or wanted to.
** it’s going to be interesting to see how we deal with a sitting president who has likely engaged in tax fraud, money laundering and various other racketeering..." |
4/10/2018 2:17:42 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Reading about the process to handle client-privilege data, it is very interesting how they have to go about it. Apparently Mueller's team won't be able to view any of the documents considered client-privilege. There is another team that goes in with specific targets that they have to look for, and then they disregard everything else. If they find what they are looking for, then they are able to hand it over.
Another interesting fact, due to the possibility of client-privilege, they had to jump through quite a few hoops to get the search warrant, and some Trump-appointed officials had to sign off on this, so in my opinion, Mueller definitely has something solid to have been able to do this. 4/10/2018 10:36:43 AM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
You still need to go back and read closer about what Mueller actually did. 4/10/2018 10:39:58 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you think he's the first?" |
But everybody does it! 4/10/2018 10:46:42 AM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
Trump is pisssssed. Sessions is good as gone right? 4/10/2018 10:48:52 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
reading for tulsi:
Feds Raid Office of Trump Lawyer Who Paid Off Stormy Daniels. This Is a Big Deal. The search of Michael Cohen's office, explained.
https://reason.com/archives/2018/04/09/what-we-know-about-the-search-trump-lawy 4/10/2018 11:04:27 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Is it a witch hunt if the people who granted a "no-knock" warrant to raid Cohen's offices were ones that Trump actually hired? I am confuse 4/10/2018 11:56:45 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
it's like a witch hunt, but witches exist and trump is involved in a criminal conspiracy with a bunch of witches and the witches are about to get RICOd 4/10/2018 12:01:30 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Wasn’t Mueller working with Trump to take down the Obama/Clinton child-sex ring? Maybe Cohen is going to fake a RICO indictment to go under cover to take down the whole ring?
Quote : | "The FBI search warrant on Michael Cohen included seeking documents related to Cohen's taxi medallion business." |
Lol, come the fuck on. This is literally mobster shit..
[Edited on April 10, 2018 at 12:17 PM. Reason : Who could have seen this coming? Anyone familiar with Trumps history...]4/10/2018 12:15:29 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
It's a witch hunt and Mueller found a coven. 4/10/2018 12:15:30 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
so cohen is the consigliere, right? 4/10/2018 12:51:00 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
he’s the Fredo of consiglieres
this whole administration is nothing but Fredo’s
[Edited on April 10, 2018 at 1:11 PM. Reason : .] 4/10/2018 1:10:25 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Is Stormy Daniels a Russian FSB officer in the pisstape? 4/10/2018 1:38:44 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Ok so the big headline on CNN is that they're investigating Cohen's payments to Stormy and the other woman, the playmate.
I realize that there had to be good reason to do what they were able to do with Cohen as far as the raid is concerned but come on, certainly they were not so stupid as to use campaign contributions for that activity. No way they're that dumb. Especially with all of the money Trump has. 4/10/2018 1:50:52 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
^^Is that a joke? I don't get it.
[Edited on April 10, 2018 at 1:51 PM. Reason : ] 4/10/2018 1:50:58 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
^^ if the lawyer paid himself, that's an illegal contribution
it's probably more than just that though to raid a lawyers office 4/10/2018 1:54:51 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Sometimes rich and powerful people do stupid things and don't worry about the consequences because they're used to throwing money at the problem and it works out for them. This seems like a textbook example of what I just described, but you can be incredulous all you want
[Edited on April 10, 2018 at 1:55 PM. Reason : lol @ giving Trump any sort of benefit of doubt at this point] 4/10/2018 1:55:05 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^ if the lawyer paid himself, that's an illegal contribution" |
if the lawyer paid himself, it's not an illegal contribution. It is, however, an act Cohen performed without consulting Trump and would thus not fall under attorney-client privilege. When they dig into the financials of the home equity line and who's been making wire transfers into that account(likely Trump), it could show evidence of money laundering or bank fraud on both their parts.
the aggressiveness of the raid makes it seem like this was done more for posturing or baiting than for actual investigative purposes though.
[Edited on April 10, 2018 at 2:37 PM. Reason : .]4/10/2018 2:36:26 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
no, it's an illegal contribution if it was money to stop her from talking to aid the campaign (which it was). it's very similar to what John Edwards was indicted for.
Quote : | " done more for posturing or baiting than for actual investigative purposes though." |
lol, adorable
[Edited on April 10, 2018 at 2:48 PM. Reason : .]4/10/2018 2:47:26 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
^^ you're still missing the part about it being handed off by Mueller and essentially run through people Trump hand picked.
^ haha exactly
[Edited on April 10, 2018 at 2:50 PM. Reason : .] 4/10/2018 2:49:37 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "" done more for posturing or baiting than for actual investigative purposes though."" |
How do you come to this conclusion? Did you make it up yourself? Or did you read it on conservative website? Seriously, I want to know how your thought process works.4/10/2018 3:04:29 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
trump is awesome -> he drained the swamp and is the least corrupt president -> the president picks great people -> his lawyer would never do anything wrong -> because he is the best attorney and trump is the best they must not have anything on the attorney -> because they don't have anything this is obviously theater by the deep state to hurt trump 4/10/2018 3:34:44 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I realize that there had to be good reason to do what they were able to do with Cohen as far as the raid is concerned but come on, certainly they were not so stupid as to use campaign contributions for that activity. No way they're that dumb. Especially with all of the money Trump has." |
do you wake up every morning and become surprised by the days news?4/10/2018 3:46:30 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^ you're still missing the part about it being handed off by Mueller and essentially run through people Trump hand picked." |
Berman recused himself from the Cohen investigation.4/10/2018 4:15:08 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
I see rjrumple is still rjrumpling 4/10/2018 4:17:14 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How do you come to this conclusion? Did you make it up yourself? Or did you read it on conservative website? Seriously, I want to know how your thought process works." |
a no-knock warrant on a law office and a lawyer's home? seriously? you think they needed to kick in the door to the guy's house and office at 5AM for reasons other than appearances?4/10/2018 4:17:33 PM |