Just watched the Bush-Perot-Clinton townhall debate from 1992.
Interesting how almost all the same issues were being discussed (health care, education, international trade, national debt, etc)

10/7/2008 8:18:49 PM

yeah we have, among a certain percent of the population, the same problems as we had back then

the cool thing about that year is that they actually allowed a 3rd party to participate

10/7/2008 8:26:33 PM

Cindy McCain says Obama has run the dirtiest campaign ever

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/07/cindy-mccain-says-obama-running-dirtiest-campaign-ever/

10/7/2008 8:41:18 PM

well, Cindy McCain is a "trollop" with too much makeup, and "a cunt". so.... who's gonna believe her
(John McCain, 1992)
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/23316912/makebelieve_maverick/print

10/7/2008 8:45:52 PM

Quote :

"FOX/Rasmussen - Oct 7 Pennsylvania ----- Obama 54% McCain 41%"

But he worked with that guy that time!

DONT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE GET IT?

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 9:04 PM. Reason : ]

10/7/2008 9:03:39 PM

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"Even though the incident was witnessed by three reporters, the McCain campaign denies it took place."

three reporters that refuse to go on record??? Or is there a reason their names are not included and no references to news articles are linked? But hey, it's the rolling stone magazine. Surely they wouldn't write partisan attack pieces without good evidence.



[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 9:16 PM. Reason : ``]

10/7/2008 9:09:48 PM

Did McCain take a dive, or is he really that out of touch?

10/7/2008 10:54:19 PM

you're out of touch if you didn't think mccain definitely won the debate!!11

10/7/2008 10:55:34 PM

out of touch and tuned into msnbc.cnn

10/7/2008 10:57:14 PM

Out of touch and seeing these scientific polls coming in.

Obama: 2
McCain: 0

10/7/2008 10:57:57 PM

game set and match

10/7/2008 10:58:13 PM

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"GOP presidential nominee John McCain has past connections to a private group that supplied aid to guerrillas seeking to overthrow the leftist government of Nicaragua in the Iran-Contra affair. McCain's ties are facing renewed scrutiny after his campaign criticized Barack Obama for his link to a former radical who engaged in violent acts 40 years ago. The U.S. Council for World Freedom was part of an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. The group was dedicated to stamping out communism around the globe. The council's founder, retired Army Maj. Gen. John Singlaub, said McCain became associated with the organization in the early 1980s as McCain was launching his political career in Arizona. Singlaub said McCain was a supporter but not an active member in the group. "

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081007/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_iran_contra;_ylt=ArecI8LRQHn3SelxcxsRnEus0NUE

10/7/2008 11:13:27 PM

speaking of dirty tactics. pulling the anti-semite card! fuck yeah!

10/7/2008 11:17:52 PM

Does anyone here really think that a Obama presidency combined with a democratic congress is going to pass any kind of middle class tax decrease?

Clinton promised the same thing. He and the democratic majority stuck us with a huge tax increase instead.

10/7/2008 11:24:20 PM

yea it scientifically shows that the only poll that counts is not until nov

ask tom bradley, douglas wilder, david dinkins, harold washington, jesse jackson, harvy gantt, sylvester turner how scientific these polls are

telephone polling to voters at home is a different ballgame than the actual voting booth. personal biases and predispositions are not polled, and those factors have proven to play a critical role in voting behavior that is impossible to account for

dont underestimate the +/- margin and last minute swings in popularity.

too many factors play into voting behavior and substantial polling errors are far from uncommon to start putting this one in the bag. Considering the only accurate judge in over 2 decades has been the candidate who sells the most Halloween masks has won every time.

10/7/2008 11:27:44 PM

I'd be concerned about the Bradley effect if there had been any evidence of it in the primaries. Sure, racism definitely cost Obama some delegates, but it was mostly reflected in the poll numbers. If anything Obama outperformed his poll numbers throughout the primaries. He's got something like an 8% cushion in the national polls right now. That's absolutely huge in October.

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 11:46 PM. Reason : :]

10/7/2008 11:41:41 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20081007/wl_mcclatchy/3066066

"U.S. intelligence warns Iraq war could explode again"

"The findings seem to cast doubts on McCain's frequent assertions that the United States is "on a path to victory" in Iraq by underscoring the deep uncertainties of the situation despite the 30,000-strong U.S. troop surge for which he was the leading congressional advocate.

For Obama, the report raises questions about whether he could fulfill his pledge to withdraw most of the remaining 152,000 U.S. troops within 16 months of taking office so that more U.S. forces could be sent to battle the growing Taliban insurgency in Afghanistan."


I've said 'Yes, the surge has seemed to have worked... for now.' If it doesn't create lasting stability, what is the point?

Did it actually accomplish anything? Things like this make me wonder: http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/ucla-study-of-satellite-imagery-62852.aspx?link_page_rss=62852

10/7/2008 11:53:18 PM

Quote :

"Does anyone here really think that a Obama presidency combined with a democratic congress is going to pass any kind of middle class tax decrease? Clinton promised the same thing. He and the democratic majority stuck us with a huge tax increase instead."

10/8/2008 12:00:56 AM

i heard some guy on tww calculated his tax break and was saving like 700 bucks on obama

10/8/2008 12:25:53 AM

he was probably unemployed too

10/8/2008 12:28:26 AM

lol

10/8/2008 12:36:26 AM

[Edited on October 8, 2008 at 1:05 AM. Reason : banned by the sandlers]

10/8/2008 12:55:28 AM

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""Does anyone here really think that a Obama presidency combined with a democratic congress is going to pass any kind of middle class tax decrease? Clinton promised the same thing. He and the democratic majority stuck us with a huge tax increase instead." "

now is not really the time to be talking about past party's legacies, considering the one Bush is about to stick us with.

10/8/2008 12:55:48 AM

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"now is not really the time to be talking about past party's legacies,"

Well that seems to be a key strategy for Obama- to tie McCain with Bush at every opportunity.

But OK, let's forget that and look into the probable future of a Obama/democrat congress. Do you honestly think they will ever pass a tax cut..for anyone?

10/8/2008 1:59:10 AM

^^ ummm. point? that this current administration sux doesn't change the fact that Obama has consistently voted for tax increases. it doesn't change the fact that Obama's "tax cuts" are a lie

10/8/2008 6:43:33 AM

Quote :

"Does anyone here really think that a Obama presidency combined with a democratic congress is going to pass any kind of middle class tax decrease? Clinton promised the same thing. He and the democratic majority stuck us with a huge tax increase instead."

So, which did you dislike about the Clinton era, the peace, the prosperity, the low gas prices, the budget surplus, the economic boom?

10/8/2008 8:37:35 AM

McCain fumbled the ball when he picked Palin and when he began sucking up the moonbat right versus to sticking to what won him the nomination in the first place.

10/8/2008 8:48:04 AM

^^Probably the fact that he couldn't purchase assault weapons. Ruined the whole decade for him.

10/8/2008 9:11:55 AM

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"So, which did you dislike about the Clinton era,"

Keep in mind that during most of the Clinton era, you had a democrat in the White House and a republican majority in Congress keeping his feet to the fire. That formula seemed to work.

After two years of a democrat majority in Congress, Obama will no longer be able to blame things on Bush. If the economy still sucks, and we're still in Iraq, we may end up with another political environment similar to the Clinton era.

10/8/2008 10:43:53 AM

Obama is leading in states where at this time in 04 kerry was down by 20 points

http://www.electoral-vote.com/icon.html

Even if Sara Palin starts calling Obama the N word and fired up the republican base, no fucking way McCain and Palin win.

McCain still ignored the middle class and lost another debate last night, the gap is only getting wider - and the recent personal attacks are just driving the independents away. It's like that campaign is busy nailing jello to the wall or something

10/8/2008 10:59:36 AM

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/08/new_anti-mccain_spot_targets_v.html

This advertisement needs to run nationwide.

10/8/2008 11:12:11 AM

democratic house + democratic senate + democratic president = no checks and balances = tons of govt spending

10/8/2008 11:23:34 AM

JESUS FKN CHRIST ... OBAMA MOOCHES NEWPORTS FROM VOTERS

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"Barack Obama says in an interview with Men's Health magazine that he has bummed cigarettes "a couple of times" along the campaign trail."

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/08/obama-admits-bumming-cigarettes-campaign-trail/

Quote :

"Obama's advice for those trying to kick the habit? "Eliminate certain key connections -- that first cigarette in the morning, or after a meal, or with a drink fatty chocolate dutch blunt," he said. "If you can eliminate those triggers, that should help.""

10/8/2008 11:34:33 AM

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"democratic house + democratic senate + democratic president = no checks and balances = tons of govt spending"

That's not necessarily a bad thing.

If we spent as much on healthcare and education as we did on military contracts during the past eight years, don't you think we'd be a lot better off?

10/8/2008 12:03:01 PM

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"NEWPORTS"

subtle.

Keep it classy, GOP.

[Edited on October 8, 2008 at 12:08 PM. Reason : ]

10/8/2008 12:08:10 PM

10/8/2008 12:12:32 PM

great pic...classy and relevant

10/8/2008 12:15:20 PM

lol. i can't help it.

10/8/2008 12:50:28 PM

i will bet anyone my tax refund obama is promising that he smokes newports .. AND that he soaks the filter after a single drag

anyone??

[Edited on October 8, 2008 at 1:06 PM. Reason : $]

10/8/2008 1:05:46 PM

Maybe it's just me but I think your jokes lately in TSB aren't resonating outside of your frat house, man.

Might want to retool that.

10/8/2008 1:24:40 PM

im as serious as obama is about cutting taxes

10/8/2008 1:28:04 PM

shuddup man, Reagan was a TKE. Therefore all TKEs must pray at the altar of Reagan every night.

10/8/2008 1:47:06 PM

Someone rented out an electronic billboard that was directly behind Sarah Palin during a rally in California on Sunday:

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/762520

10/8/2008 2:24:22 PM

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10/8/2008 2:26:51 PM

http://www.236.com/blog/w/michael_weingartner_and_lee_camp/leaked_mccain_seeks_joke_advic_9261.php

10/8/2008 2:49:04 PM

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"Obama's perceived strengths: domestic issues, compassion, empathy, bringing about change."

what impressive strengths! especially the last 3!

10/8/2008 2:51:04 PM

^^Bahahahaha! That guy doing Chappelle is great.

10/8/2008 2:57:19 PM

when people try to explain why they support obama, it sounds like theyre copying something from a gay man's singles ad

"Obama's strenghts: domestic male who works from home, compassionate to environment and avid gardener, empathetic to the elderly and homeless, keeps the neighborhood clean, volunteers at the animal shelter, strives to keep healthy, enjoys speaking at retirement homes, riding bikes, separating recyclables, and lives everyday to help ensure tomorrow will be just as sunny. seeking hardworking middle class american employer, preferably Caucasian, who doesnt mind donating 60% of their annual income to help me continue to beautify the neighborhood"

10/8/2008 3:18:38 PM

Quote :

"i will bet anyone my tax refund obama is promising that he smokes newports "

you don't pay taxes shultz....

10/8/2008 3:31:43 PM

McCain: "My fellow prisoners..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYFm5kK4f1k

He's officially lost his mind, folks. Poor guy.

10/8/2008 3:34:21 PM