NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Remember, Suarez is a disgrace to the game but not Young." |
he's becoming one of the biggest offenders in the prem. I don't remember him being like that for Villa, but maybe I just didn't see enough of him.
** LOL, Nani for Ashley Young. Couldn't think of a more fitting sub.
[Edited on April 15, 2012 at 12:22 PM. Reason : also, never rooted for Chelsea more...]4/15/2012 12:05:44 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
And there's one of the many penalties at old trafford that they don't get too. it goes both ways. that was a clear handball
[Edited on April 15, 2012 at 12:28 PM. Reason : g] 4/15/2012 12:27:39 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I'm a big proponent of calls generally even out over the course of a long season. I certainly don't think they are biased. I just have a hard time reconciling how outspoken SAF has been against diving in the past to the point of being contentious with other managers and then seeing how his team flail and dive as bad as anyone in recent years (really since Ronaldo).
Maybe I just didn't watch as much, but I don't remember his late 90's/early 00's teams diving nearly as much. 4/15/2012 12:29:22 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
They didn't. some people claimed ruud did but I don't think as bad as today. its pretty much taken hold of.soccer entirely now. I hate it 4/15/2012 12:33:08 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
And that's definitely game. Rooney with a double on an off day
this ref has had a very bad game. that was at least a yellow on given for handball outside the box
[Edited on April 15, 2012 at 12:39 PM. Reason : d] 4/15/2012 12:34:29 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
i want spurs to win, but i dont feel like they can beat liverpool in the final. however, i dont see liverpool able to beat chelski at all if they win...basically whoever wins this game better win the next.
can anyone tell me why cudicini is playing in goal for spurs? i havent been following them enough to know why friedel is out
[Edited on April 15, 2012 at 1:07 PM. Reason : f] 4/15/2012 1:02:46 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
^ came in here to ask the same about Brad 4/15/2012 1:12:42 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
chelsea appear to be inviting the pressure onto them and then breaking on the counter. guess they feel tottenham have the better midfield...
[Edited on April 15, 2012 at 1:34 PM. Reason : well maybe theyve reclaimed possession battle here]
wow tottenham unlucky to not be ahead, and then drogba goes off and does that. how many time has he turned a defender and thundered one in
[Edited on April 15, 2012 at 1:45 PM. Reason : f] 4/15/2012 1:31:43 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Holy shit... that was nice. 4/15/2012 1:45:19 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
I don't care who knows, I'm a Drogba fan. Always have been 4/15/2012 1:47:11 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
are you kidding me refs...
that is the play that brings goal line technology to the epl
[Edited on April 15, 2012 at 2:08 PM. Reason : f] 4/15/2012 2:07:56 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
LOL, the foul on Terry I can see either way, but that wasn't even close, was it? 4/15/2012 2:08:25 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Fucked over again. 4/15/2012 2:08:31 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
which one of the refs called that goal?! theres no way either person could tell it could cross the line, nevermind that it didnt even come close. and how they missed john terry taking 2 players and the goalkeeper out by crashing into the box...my god refs 4/15/2012 2:09:45 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
OK, that was a lot closer than I originally thought. But still didn't look like a goal. 4/15/2012 2:10:38 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
lol that was fucking pathetic. who cares about goal or no goal? There's no way you can miss Terry being a jackass 4/15/2012 2:10:55 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
i dont think tottenham have it in them, but i really hope they can comeback in this game
when the entire team comes to surround you, then you have to know you made a mistake as a ref
[Edited on April 15, 2012 at 2:12 PM. Reason : f] 4/15/2012 2:12:05 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
good response tottenham.
cech is lucky as shit, if bale isnt there then he is sent off 4/15/2012 2:14:41 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
So, can they not give the advantage AND give the red card? I don't understand that rule.
Quote : | "when the entire team comes to surround you, then you have to know you made a mistake as a ref" |
In this case, yes. But in most cases, no.. not even close.
[Edited on April 15, 2012 at 2:15 PM. Reason : x]4/15/2012 2:15:21 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
i mean i guess bale couldve elected to not play it, then cech has to be sent off
^i know players surround the ref, but you never see an entire team surround him unless it is clearly a wrong decision
[Edited on April 15, 2012 at 2:16 PM. Reason : f] 4/15/2012 2:16:06 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "when the entire team comes to surround you, then you have to know you made a mistake as a ref" |
That would mean referees never made a right decision against United4/15/2012 2:16:13 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
But anyway, fuck Spurs. I hope they never win another game and every call goes against them for the rest of time.
[Edited on April 15, 2012 at 2:17 PM. Reason : ^^ fair enough, Bale actually did the right thing and went to the sideline to ask about it.] 4/15/2012 2:16:54 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Cech should still be booked. 4/15/2012 2:16:56 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
^^^i know players surround the ref, but you never see AN ENTIRE team surround him unless it is clearly a wrong decision
[Edited on April 15, 2012 at 2:17 PM. Reason : D] 4/15/2012 2:17:09 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
its not a red card because it didn't deny the goal scoring opportunity as they converted the opportunity. "the last defender" isn't the rule 4/15/2012 2:17:58 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Correct. But he should still be booked. 4/15/2012 2:19:33 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
he should still get a yellow at least. how many times do you see someone take someone out in the middle of the field but play goes on and the ref comes back and gives that player a yellow...this isnt any different 4/15/2012 2:19:41 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
oh no I agree it's definitely a booking
I was responding to this
Quote : | "So, can they not give the advantage AND give the red card? I don't understand that rule." |
[Edited on April 15, 2012 at 2:21 PM. Reason : .]4/15/2012 2:21:13 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
this ref is just getting every key decision wrong basically
david luiz probable hamstring tear...gonna be hilarious watching gary cahill try to deal with lionel messis darting runs into the box
i hope spurs can at least tie it. i wouldnt mind seeing 30 more minutes of this game today
oh look, drogba on the ground. never seen that before
[Edited on April 15, 2012 at 2:30 PM. Reason : f] 4/15/2012 2:21:39 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
okay I see Bale hasnt added anything other than kick ball ahead and run fast to his game yet 4/15/2012 2:35:20 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
King is done. 4/15/2012 2:36:33 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
yeah thats why i dont understand why everyone was slobbin his knob so much. hes fast, thats cool. so is lennon, valencia, walcott, jarvis, etc...
i cant wait to hear harry about the goal that shouldnt have been
[Edited on April 15, 2012 at 2:39 PM. Reason : f] 4/15/2012 2:38:20 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
wow lampard
wait wow, cudicini. terrible keeping
thats the cudicini i remember, letting in a freekick from that far out on the side hes on.
[Edited on April 15, 2012 at 2:41 PM. Reason : still wanna know where friedel is] 4/15/2012 2:39:25 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Well this is the last game I want to watch this season. 4/15/2012 2:39:40 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
goalkeepers on the bench with their gloves on make me lol 4/15/2012 2:42:20 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
TORRES TIME. GOTTA GET THAT CLEANUP GOAL
malouda got a tribal cutout in his hair? haha
mikel showing some class
[Edited on April 15, 2012 at 2:51 PM. Reason : d] 4/15/2012 2:42:43 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
ahah wow john terry:
"I thought it hit me and stayed out," says John Terry of Chelsea's second goal. "We've been calling for goalline technology for a long time. Hopefully the powers that be make the right decision." 4/15/2012 3:45:31 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
He's gotta be thinking about the Lampard World Cup non-goal when he says that.
[Edited on April 15, 2012 at 3:54 PM. Reason : non-goal] 4/15/2012 3:54:34 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
cudicini has started every fa cup match for tottenham...which answers mine and aimorris question on why he was playing today 4/15/2012 4:03:04 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Pretty much just rotation. I wouldn't say he has done a bad job either. Pretty solid back-up.
Ashley Young penalty:
4/15/2012 4:16:05 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
yep its disgusting. i hate that more and more players are doing this in the epl.
the players can complain about refs making bad decisions in games, but they are not helping their case by duping the refs into making these bad decisions as well
another note i meant to say earlier but forgot on lampards goal i think, but england would be stupid to hire redknapp for manager. he has clearly lost ideas on what to do to finish the season with his squad and continues to make bad tactical decisions. taking off van der vaart (for defoe) who has played well and leaving modric on was stupid. that decision caused the scoreline to be inflated much more than the game really was. modric was anonymous and did nothing out wide, and taking out one of your two good midfielders opened them up when they werent out of the game yet.
also, why is he continuing to play modric out wide. he has gone missing for a while now out there. he should prob play a triangle-esque CM formation with parker right center mid and Modric left center mid and van der vaart spearheading the CM attack in front of them slotting right behind the striker
it almost seems like bale and modric are switching off positions when one is an obvious good winger and the other an obvious good center mid...doesnt make sense
[Edited on April 15, 2012 at 4:27 PM. Reason : f] 4/15/2012 4:25:08 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""He must have guessed," Redknapp said. "He can't have been sure. He's just made a mistake, unfortunately. A big mistake. I spoke to him. He says he feels worse than I do. I said: 'I don't think so.' But he says he feels bad. He knows he's made a mistake and he says he'll have a bad week as well.
"The goal was a disaster, it was nowhere near a goal. I don't see how he can give the goal: it's nowhere near over the line. It's not as if it's gone in and someone's kicked it away, it's so quick. There were bodies on the line and the ball couldn't possibly get over the line. It was key. But it was an honest mistake. He's not done it on purpose."" |
I'm having a hard time seeing how a ref, if hes going to guess, would give a goal rather than not give it. if its not clear cut, it would seem much safer for a ref to not give the goal cause it doesnt change the game nearly as much...especially in a close game such as this
ref should have thought about it a little more. john terry is in the goal and he does not celebrate, while you got juan mata raving around madly like he just won the world cup. i wanna like mata, too, but hes no more of a cheater by doing that than what ashley young did today
[Edited on April 15, 2012 at 6:41 PM. Reason : d]4/15/2012 6:37:21 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
That's true. I think the assistant referee probably saw Mata and gave the goal. 4/15/2012 10:05:50 PM |
elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
Wow. That is easily one of the absolute worst dives I have ever seen.
The only way this is ever going to be solved is looking into these flops retroactively and handing out bans. 4/15/2012 10:18:13 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
carroll's still takes the cake from what i can remember this season. at least there was contact with this one. maybe someone in the fa will actually get on the ball with this diving crap and also get some video technology to help the refs 4/15/2012 10:20:16 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think the assistant referee probably saw Mata and gave the goal." |
I thought it was clear Atkinson was the one who gave the goal.4/16/2012 8:44:24 AM |
blanks Veteran 546 Posts user info edit post |
Ashley Young auditioning for a summer move to Barcelona?
only way they can punish diving is if every league agreed to hand out the same punishments retroactively. if england is the only one punishing for diving and all those players cut it out of their game, what happens in the champions league when they're playing teams that still dive all the time? 4/16/2012 11:36:58 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Good call, they'd probably all lose to teams like Madrid and Barcelona if they cut out diving... can you imagine what that would be like?!?!?! 4/16/2012 12:58:21 PM |
elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
lololol 4/16/2012 2:03:43 PM |
JeffreyBSG All American 10165 Posts user info edit post |
there are those very rare occasions when all your previous dives come back to haunt you...like Drogba in the Champions League semifinal against Barca a couple years ago. Drogba's reputation probably cost Chelsea a penalty in that game, and a place in the Final.
So here's hoping that Ashley Young gets leveled in the late stages of some really crucial United game, and no penalty is given because of his past bullshitting. 4/16/2012 2:20:42 PM |